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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4473716 New Zealand 12/14/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm. You'd have to read it as an English filter on north west European history and culture. Some innate English attitudes are hard to read, as everything goes through a Social Class filter. And old syle Englishman or woman will categorize you on accent,education,ancestry and even shoe type. So it's Class. Eg hobbits=ordinary English chappies. Eagles refer to something very elusive for the English-the nobility and courage of some (not English), and it's not really to do with America. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3168735 United States 12/15/2012 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A history of the Jewish people, who were represented by the Dwarfs who lost their Kingdom, Bilbo who seems to mirror the British, the eagle who can easily go as the Americans, the others I still have to figure out what they might represent. Feel free to share your ideas ... Quoting: atico I saw the movie last night, I noticed the parallels between the dwarfs and the Jews. I think you're also right about Bilbo and the eagles representing England and the US. In the movie, at one point Bilbo is getting ready to abandon the mission and go back home, one of the dwarfs tries to stop him and Bilbo says something like "I'm not used to this kind of life, always being on the road and living in danger, you dwarfs ARE used to this, you don't have a home." Then later on in the movie Thorin asks Bilbo why he came back instead of going home and Bilbo replies (paraphrasing) "I now know what it feels like to be without a home, so I want to try to help you take back your home (Erebor, which = Israel) if I can." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29507391 United States 12/15/2012 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought it was interesting, too, how Gandalf might parallel God in some way....the "Light" on the end of His staff to shine in the dark places and keep evil at bay, His Wisdom and patience with us when He can see our path but we have yet to realize it, and He had the "Key" to give the dwarves that would open the "secret door" back to their kingdom. "Key of David" possibly? Also the "dragon" was guarding their Kingdom and keeping them from returning! I can see that! I saw it last night and didn't really think of these parallels until you brought it up but I can see that now! Thanks! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3168735 United States 12/15/2012 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought it was interesting, too, how Gandalf might parallel God in some way....the "Light" on the end of His staff to shine in the dark places and keep evil at bay, His Wisdom and patience with us when He can see our path but we have yet to realize it, and He had the "Key" to give the dwarves that would open the "secret door" back to their kingdom. "Key of David" possibly? Also the "dragon" was guarding their Kingdom and keeping them from returning! I can see that! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29507391 I saw it last night and didn't really think of these parallels until you brought it up but I can see that now! Thanks! Gandalf could also represent Moses. |
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Prostetnik User ID: 29782568 Canada 12/15/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4473716 You'd have to read it as an English filter on north west European history and culture. Some innate English attitudes are hard to read, as everything goes through a Social Class filter. And old syle Englishman or woman will categorize you on accent,education,ancestry and even shoe type. So it's Class. Eg hobbits=ordinary English chappies. Eagles refer to something very elusive for the English-the nobility and courage of some (not English), and it's not really to do with America. I believe you are correct. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2288638 Finland 11/07/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Comments. And according to this allegory Erebor would be the promised land. This group would be Israel indeed. But again this is speculation with reference to the Bible passage. |
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