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CNN host Piers Morgan implied that even handguns should be banned in America when he tweeted, “This is America’s Dunblane. We banned handguns in Britain after that appalling tragedy. What will the U.S. do? Inaction not an option.”




FACT - NO so-called weapon (ie. handgun) harbors ANY clear "motive" as opposed to the person utilizing a weapon to inflict injury or harm, or respond more adequately in self-defense. Even "assault" weapons have been branded with "intent" by virtue of the term "assault" when there can be no such rationalization for the mere possession of such a weapon.



Seems to me that the focus MUST remain on the intent of the implied shooter rather than the tool(s) of violence themselves. And the application of guilt in this regard requires first the unfortunate and transpiring "event" of tragic proportions before ascribing ANY particular motive! Let the blame lay appropriately on the "individual".



Many would agree that we will see an unsettling rise in these type incidents to help garner more attention for GUN CONTROL. I agree. We already have and certainly are.



Still others would also argue that some of these incidents revolve around patsies with government psy-op handlers. Even others contend that the ideological camp opposed to our unique "freedoms" and "liberties" will engage in one atrocity after the next to effect the change they deem necessary.



Further, it appears that a minority of these attacks can be relegated to casual and random violence apart from a larger agenda; when said events are exhaustively scrutinized against the backdrop of legislative timing and the ongoing culture war.....Of all this, I tend to agree. I find it especially SUSPECT when the script is in hand (from the usual suspects) upon the immediate broadcast of such cowardly attacks (often televised in a concerted and synchronized effort) to vilify the second amendment again and again, rather than criticize the societal undercurrents that are not themselves "spontaneous" - by any means.



AND AS ALWAYS, MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE REAL VICTIMS IN THIS TRAGEDY!



All in all, what we are witnessing is nothing less than WAR (TOTAL AND CALCULATED) whereby the ultimate transgression is to deceive the general public and the ultimate casualty time and time again is the TRUTH. And the Truth is that a disarmed populace must necessarily be ENSLAVED! If not immediately, given enough time, it will be - PERIOD. If not at first enslaved to the minions of government oppression, then to the criminal element that acts independent of the law and without restraint! A disarmed citizenry must be slave to the dictates of societal injustice and societal devolution by default, and cannot stand in defense of themselves, their families, their property, nor their future. Further, these restrictive government disarmament zones do not allow for a counter-measure to public violence, from the simple murdering thug to more highly staged operations of a rogue government sanctioned hit job. Only time will tell which is which, if we can or ever will truly know.



Further, I expect it will only get MUCH WORSE from here out.
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Now, PIN THIS!
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I will continue to conceal carry regardless of legality.
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This is war. And the more it continues, the more evident it will be to EVERYONE!
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12/14/2012 08:28 PM
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It's the drugs!

If they prohibit guns (good luck) they will see lots of fatal stabbing rampages.

If they prohibit knives, they will see people run amok with sticks.

What next, teeth?

Get rid of the LEGALLY PRESCRIBED MIND DRUGS!
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12/14/2012 08:31 PM
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12/14/2012 09:15 PM
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Handguns are not banned in England you just need a license.
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12/14/2012 10:01 PM
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Further, I believe that security should be less visible than on-site swat teams, barbed wire, and iron gates at our schools. It should be paramount that issues of privacy and soveriegn "rights" are held in greater regard than the collective notion of keeping everyone safe (when there can be no guarantee of such provisions doing precisely what they are pretending to do). In reality, once such provisions are in place, these same security measures can be co-opted by insidious elements of society with intent to do greater harm on the whole than could ever have been done in the de-centralized model....Thus the need for real security which is the sum of its parts, as opposed to the sum of all fears.

For that matter, rather than a complete lockdown/rollout of the police state infrastructure onto the highways, biways, and into our shopping malls, schools, arenas, grocery stores, etc., I would like to see more volunteer and undercover private security (decentralized with codified regulations and localized protocols) using "concealed carry" as opposed to a highly visible federal takeover of existing institutions. This, in addition to a well armed populace would be the necessary leverage to help prevent these acts of cowardice. But no measures will adequately ensure our safety and security with absolute certainty. Freedom always involves risk. A risk I much prefer over the alternative being a loss of liberty, freedom and even ultimate enslavement to the very thing that feigns our protection.

However, that being said,

I seldom count on common sense being applied anymore.
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12/14/2012 10:04 PM
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‎"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson, (1764).
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Regarding the U.K. (licensing notion presented by Anonymous Coward in earlier reply):

To obtain a firearm certificate, the police must be convinced that a person has "good reason" to own each firearm, and that they can be trusted with it "without danger to the public safety or to the peace". Under Home Office guidelines, firearms licences are only issued if a person has legitimate sporting, collecting, or work-related reasons for ownership. Since 1968, self-defence has not been considered a valid reason to own a firearm. The current licensing procedure involves: positive verification of identity, two referees of verifiable good character who have known the applicant for at least two years (and who may themselves be interviewed and/or investigated as part of the certification), approval of the application by the applicant's own family doctor, an inspection of the premises and cabinet where firearms will be kept and a face-to-face interview by a Firearms Enquiry Officer (FEO) also known as a Firearms Liaison Officer (FLO). A thorough background check of the applicant is then made by Special Branch on behalf of the firearms licensing department. Only when all these stages have been satisfactorily completed will a license be issued, which must be renewed every 5 years.
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12/14/2012 10:11 PM
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Handguns are not banned in England you just need a license.

Compared to the more prolific gun rights in the United States, they may as well be "banned" in the U.K.....

However, at the rate of creeping legislation here in the U.S., it won't be long before we are the spitting image of Europe ~ lest the patriots among us have something to say about it.
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12/14/2012 10:20 PM
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12/14/2012 11:24 PM
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One last shameless

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for good measure.
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12/17/2012 08:54 PM
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Yah,

I never seen a gun get up and kill somebody all by itself....


go figure.
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12/18/2012 07:42 PM
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no kidding.
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12/18/2012 08:51 PM
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More and more this is looking like complicity with regards to the agents of shadow government ops.
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I take this as a threat directed at those who are acting independently of the official and State sanctioned "microphone":

[link to www.youtube.com]

You may be PROSECUTED!

Too bad already. There are conflicting reports getting out even now. It is called freedom of speech and (independent journalism), yes, even general public inquiry. Sure, there are and always will be those who will ever attempt to "muddy the waters". But do not confuse that with every contradiction and every source acting outside the aurthorized narrative.

I say, let the lawyers debate the merits of their respective cases. The court of public opinion does not require media censorship!!!
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12/18/2012 10:22 PM
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Oh yah,

And somehow by default we are required by this present narrative to conclude that ALL preppers are responsible for the death of these children....
......since, of course, as luck would have it, the shooter was the son of a "prepper" mom.

Gimme a break.
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12/18/2012 10:29 PM
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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I believe this was a hit job for sure..... A false flag psy-op with real death to promote the gun grabber's operation to disarm the American public and instill fear in them (should they even imagine providing for their own defense).
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12/20/2012 08:48 PM
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hiding
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Thread: The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)
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