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You know, everything you just listed, except for guns, can be proven...with facts mind you...to negatively effect your brain and thinking process. In other words, it IS BRAINWASHING YOU....verifiably.
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What facts?

We are receptive to what we hear, see, and feel.

Mostly we feel.

So if those around us are negative, and full of hate, no amount of good music/friends/tv etc, will allow us to rise above what we feel.

You are too stupid to post in this thread.
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Ill give an overview of this thread here , and where it will go ;




People born post 1990 arguing games are fine nd have absolutely no connection to externalisation of violence

people born 1980s and before ,remember what a computer game actually is , and the variety thereof , who realise modern games are just killing simulations


it is beyond any linear or abstract logic to suggest there is no connection between violent videogames, and the youth of today accepting and performing violence

it is hyped in culture and media

its a bastard form , not like eastern martial arts whos origin is of self control and defence

it is gratuitous western violence ; first person shooters , headshots, max kills , body counts, best sniper shots , ranks , these are all elements of games now, its fucking bullshit

however it is not ALL a big conspiracy - i agree that there IS an element of this voilence being proactively used to numb the populous, but i belive the majority of violent video games exist beacause THEY SELL

MAKE WHAT SELLS

GET MONEY SURVIVE

DONT CARE ABOUT MORAL CONTENT OF PRODUCT

JUST GET MORE MONEY

BUY MORE STUFF



This is ALL a result of low society
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If its the games that are causing it , why does only America have this problem, we have the same games you guys do yet no school shootings.
 Quoting: Doommincus Maximus


today in China a man stabbed 22 children at a school.


certain games arent necessarily the cause but could be a contributing factor
 Quoting: Oyster


the main factor would be the kids looking up to a government that kill innocent people all around the world all the time, most of the time with the parents cherring when they see the stuff on TV.
All violent games in NZ are rated r18, is this not the case in america? or is that considers socilizim too
 Quoting: Doommincus Maximus


chilren and teens dont "look up to the government" they arent paying attention to any of that. at least american ones arent.

yes we have ratings on games but parents still buy them for their kids, like anything else they have.
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Were training or brainwashing our youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25594339


Agreed. This violent video games desensitize our youth to violence.
Who is John Galt?
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if you take games out i will be on the news.
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^^ THAT ^^ was the best comment this thread could ever have

clappa

i would also be on the news if violent games were not / didnt exist.

you people wanting violent games to be banned are totally irresponsible and disconnected of reality,

you just dont know how much anger (this is a fucked up world) this 3 last decades born kids bear and gather every fukin day.

if gamers had no way to unleash that mountain of anger you would see mass murders at every corner of your towns.

you better thank God that violent games exist or you would see us all on TV news headlines, included me, well at least when i was younger...violent games helped bear with that insane world until i gain in maturity.
 Quoting: Zeff


from you
you just dont know how much anger (this is a fucked up world) this 3 last decades born kids bear and gather every fukin day.
Discuss
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I don't agree.
story telling has progressed with technology. Kids used to listen to story tellers now they can change the outcome to stories.
It's the education system that needs to accomodate these kids, they have grown up with media that is fast and action filled running at a constant quick pace so it's no wonder that they have no attention span. Kids these days won't sit through a film unless it's action filled, they just aren't use to that.
I work with these kind of kids and the education system is failing them.

I do not blame games, and gamers do understand and recognise reality.

There has always been and always will be some psychopaths born into this world.
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OP...

You can't place a single blame on video games first! It's the parents!

Parents are the gate keepers for their children's future. If they don't give a s**t about their kids, guess what, their kids won't give a s**t about their lives.

Give love to know love...

When parents let their children do whatever they want, watch whatever they want, without explaining and teaching them true right from wrong, you get what we see. Mindless, brain washed kids that don't give a s**t about anyone, or anything.

Kids are sponges. They can't be subjected at an early age, to nothing but violence (parents, movies, video games, music), without KNOWING right from wrong.

When a child isn't taught right from wrong, the true meaning of family and loving one another, but instead pure violence....what do you think will happen!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11696497


Dont blame the parents.

the parents of TODAYS teens were raised in the 80s themselves...when vid games were first flooding the market.

Back then they were not as gory but still involed 99% time blowing something up or shooting something down.

Because they were not BLATANTLY gory THEIR parents saw no real HARM in them..so the teens and kids of those days packed the games palours to blow up and shoot and rack up high scores for all the KILLS they got..all innocent like.

But the PROGRAMMING was there..laying the GOUNDWORD for the NEXT generation.

Those kids grew up and had kids ALREADY HARDENED to constant killing..even if it was flashy spaceships they were mowing down...

Because they were already hardened...when the new style gore started coming in late 90s they didnt worry about it..it wasnt that far removed from what THEy were already used to as kids...then the battlefield game was made..and pandora opened the box.

The kids loved it...it was intense..realistic..challenging..and it was ONLY a simulation of ww2 right?

Not very gory..jusr basic graphics..but the IDEA was there..IN place..to get them used to shooting PEOPLE..over and over and over again...

Unreal tournament came in then too..same deal but WITH some gore..and set in the future..WITH some splats and gibbs...people were HOOKED.

And now..we have REALISTIC DOOM..played out MASSACRES..again and again and again...being PROUS of ya gibbs..ya kills..bragging on leader boards about your mass slaugheters.

Its FROG IN THE POT syndrome...

ITS NOT the parents..its thew GAMES makers of the 80s that PROGRAMMED the parents to think...ITS JUST A GAME.

THEY KNEW back then WHAT they would be bringing out in the years ahead..and they had to SOFTEN the blow..FIRST get the FUTURE oarents IMMUNE to endless killing..even of innocent "Aliens" and "Ships"...and go from there.

ITS WORKED.

WE NOW have a GENERATION OF FULLY TRAINED KILLING STRATEGISTS..EXPERT SNIPERS...MEAN ASSED SLAUGHTER EXPERTS..IMMUNE TO SHOCK AND GORE..

SHEEP..READY TO SLAUGHTER..when the time comes.

"AND THE SECOND SEAL WAS OPNED..and PEACE was taken from the earth..AND EVERYONE TURNED ON AND KILLED EVERYONE ELSE"

THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS..

ALL that needs to happen to SET IT OFF..

IS THE SIGNAL.
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WE HAVE BECOME BARBARIANS.

We exalt violence, sex, death and guns.
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Were training or brainwashing our youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25594339



The thought of first-person shooter games where youth can simulate shooting sprees does come to mind when you see these massacres.

But there is the argument: "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

My riposte to that is "No gun, no shooting."
 Quoting: The Tauremini


unless you live in the USA flipoff
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12/14/2012 06:19 PM
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Were training or brainwashing our youth
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now you are really talking crazy......shouldnt buy your children MATURE games. Starts with the parents and this parent could not control her child.
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OP...

You can't place a single blame on video games first! It's the parents!

Parents are the gate keepers for their children's future. If they don't give a s**t about their kids, guess what, their kids won't give a s**t about their lives.

Give love to know love...

When parents let their children do whatever they want, watch whatever they want, without explaining and teaching them true right from wrong, you get what we see. Mindless, brain washed kids that don't give a s**t about anyone, or anything.

Kids are sponges. They can't be subjected at an early age, to nothing but violence (parents, movies, video games, music), without KNOWING right from wrong.

When a child isn't taught right from wrong, the true meaning of family and loving one another, but instead pure violence....what do you think will happen!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11696497


Dont blame the parents.

the parents of TODAYS teens were raised in the 80s themselves...when vid games were first flooding the market.

Back then they were not as gory but still involed 99% time blowing something up or shooting something down.

Because they were not BLATANTLY gory THEIR parents saw no real HARM in them..so the teens and kids of those days packed the games palours to blow up and shoot and rack up high scores for all the KILLS they got..all innocent like.

But the PROGRAMMING was there..laying the GOUNDWORK for the NEXT generation.

Those kids grew up and had kids (They themselves ALREADY HARDENED) to constant killing..even if it was flashy spaceships they were mowing down...

Because they (The parents)were already hardened...when the new style gore started coming in late 90s they didnt worry about it..it wasnt that far removed from what THEy were already used to as kids...then the battlefield game was made..and pandora opened the box.

The kids loved it...it was intense..realistic..challenging..and it was ONLY a simulation of ww2 right?

Not very gory..jusr basic graphics..but the IDEA was there..IN place..to get them used to shooting PEOPLE..over and over and over again...

Unreal tournament came in then too..same deal but WITH some gore..and set in the future..WITH some splats and gibbs...people were HOOKED.

And now..we have REALISTIC DOOM..played out MASSACRES..again and again and again...being PROUD of ya gibbs..ya kills..bragging on leader boards about your mass slaugheters.

Its FROG IN THE POT syndrome...

ITS NOT the parents..its the GAMES makers of the 80s that PROGRAMMED the parents to think...ITS JUST A GAME.

THEY KNEW back then WHAT they would be bringing out in the years ahead..and they had to SOFTEN the blow..FIRST get the FUTURE parents IMMUNE to endless killing..even of innocent "Aliens" and "Ships"...and go from there.

ITS WORKED.

WE NOW have a GENERATION OF FULLY TRAINED KILLING STRATEGISTS..EXPERT SNIPERS...MEAN ASSED SLAUGHTER EXPERTS..IMMUNE TO SHOCK AND GORE..

SHEEP..READY TO SLAUGHTER..when the time comes.

"AND THE SECOND SEAL WAS OPNED..and PEACE was taken from the earth..AND EVERYONE TURNED ON AND KILLED EVERYONE ELSE"

THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS..

ALL that needs to happen to SET IT OFF..

IS THE SIGNAL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17027639


FIXED...
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Were training or brainwashing our youth
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It is absolutely desensitizing youth to the actual consequences of violence.

Uber realistic violent video games tap into the fight or flight instinct and encourage fight with no real consequence.

So when conflict arises in real life, this is what happens.

No one should be surprised.

It's Psych 101.
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You know, everything you just listed, except for guns, can be proven...with facts mind you...to negatively effect your brain and thinking process. In other words, it IS BRAINWASHING YOU....verifiably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12066736


What facts?

We are receptive to what we hear, see, and feel.

Mostly we feel.

So if those around us are negative, and full of hate, no amount of good music/friends/tv etc, will allow us to rise above what we feel.

You are too stupid to post in this thread.
 Quoting: Jackie Howe 29848411


No, sorry friend...you are blind, and can't see the forest for the trees.


And that's a big part of our problem, fools like you who don't have a clue who your attackers are. It's obvious, because you defend your offenders.
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Hooked on games since 5 yrs old, now I'm 18. Playing 8-10 hours a day. Starded from games like Doom 2 , warcraft I , proceeded to gaming MMOs (Lineage 2 , World of Warcraft) , currently nolifin League of Legends... Grades are pretty good , have many friends , don't want to kill anybody , maybe cuz I'm interested in conspiracies, mystical stuff, alternative energy sources and making world a better place .. idk .. but I don't have anything against violent games , they make me laugh . Anyway i love my life :)
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if you take games out i will be on the news.
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^^ THAT ^^ was the best comment this thread could ever have

clappa

i would also be on the news if violent games were not / didnt exist.

you people wanting violent games to be banned are totally irresponsible and disconnected of reality,

you just dont know how much anger (this is a fucked up world) this 3 last decades born kids bear and gather every fukin day.

if gamers had no way to unleash that mountain of anger you would see mass murders at every corner of your towns.

you better thank God that violent games exist or you would see us all on TV news headlines, included me, well at least when i was younger...violent games helped bear with that insane world until i gain in maturity.
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thats some fucked up logic you gotiamwith
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Were training or brainwashing our youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25594339


Maybe if Cain and Abel did not have video games Cain would not have killed Abel.
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If you look closely the people calling for gun control are the same liberals that fight to let you do all these things that have changed america in the last 30 years . They say nothing about the violence from that union incident they started and go about there agenda social collapse.
I bet they will be there to help when its done help you there way like hurricane sandy help you see it like sheep grazing
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Ban nature!

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OP...

You can't place a single blame on video games first! It's the parents!

Parents are the gate keepers for their children's future. If they don't give a s**t about their kids, guess what, their kids won't give a s**t about their lives.

Give love to know love...

When parents let their children do whatever they want, watch whatever they want, without explaining and teaching them true right from wrong, you get what we see. Mindless, brain washed kids that don't give a s**t about anyone, or anything.

Kids are sponges. They can't be subjected at an early age, to nothing but violence (parents, movies, video games, music), without KNOWING right from wrong.

When a child isn't taught right from wrong, the true meaning of family and loving one another, but instead pure violence....what do you think will happen!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11696497


Dont blame the parents.

the parents of TODAYS teens were raised in the 80s themselves...when vid games were first flooding the market.

Back then they were not as gory but still involed 99% time blowing something up or shooting something down.

Because they were not BLATANTLY gory THEIR parents saw no real HARM in them..so the teens and kids of those days packed the games palours to blow up and shoot and rack up high scores for all the KILLS they got..all innocent like.

But the PROGRAMMING was there..laying the GOUNDWORD for the NEXT generation.

Those kids grew up and had kids ALREADY HARDENED to constant killing..even if it was flashy spaceships they were mowing down...

Because they were already hardened...when the new style gore started coming in late 90s they didnt worry about it..it wasnt that far removed from what THEy were already used to as kids...then the battlefield game was made..and pandora opened the box.

The kids loved it...it was intense..realistic..challenging..and it was ONLY a simulation of ww2 right?

Not very gory..jusr basic graphics..but the IDEA was there..IN place..to get them used to shooting PEOPLE..over and over and over again...

Unreal tournament came in then too..same deal but WITH some gore..and set in the future..WITH some splats and gibbs...people were HOOKED.

And now..we have REALISTIC DOOM..played out MASSACRES..again and again and again...being PROUS of ya gibbs..ya kills..bragging on leader boards about your mass slaugheters.

Its FROG IN THE POT syndrome...

ITS NOT the parents..its thew GAMES makers of the 80s that PROGRAMMED the parents to think...ITS JUST A GAME.

THEY KNEW back then WHAT they would be bringing out in the years ahead..and they had to SOFTEN the blow..FIRST get the FUTURE oarents IMMUNE to endless killing..even of innocent "Aliens" and "Ships"...and go from there.

ITS WORKED.

WE NOW have a GENERATION OF FULLY TRAINED KILLING STRATEGISTS..EXPERT SNIPERS...MEAN ASSED SLAUGHTER EXPERTS..IMMUNE TO SHOCK AND GORE..

SHEEP..READY TO SLAUGHTER..when the time comes.

"AND THE SECOND SEAL WAS OPNED..and PEACE was taken from the earth..AND EVERYONE TURNED ON AND KILLED EVERYONE ELSE"

THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS..

ALL that needs to happen to SET IT OFF..

IS THE SIGNAL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17027639



How many TRULY RESPONSIBLE parents buy their kids CALL OF DUTY, and believe "ooooh, it' just a game". That's BS, and a cop out!

A TRULY RESPONSIBLE parent KNOWS what their kids are up to! They don't just let them buy games, just cuz "it's a game", or watch movies, just cuz "it's a movie"...

Any truly responsible parent raises their kid to be responsible, and teaches them right from wrong, fantasy from reality...BOTTOM LINE!!!

Hence, it starts at GROUND ZERO...PARENTS!
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it's true though

the generation this kid belongs to grew up on extremely graphic / realistic first person shooters & grand theft auto..

they don't watch T.V.

They don't have jobs..

They are "gamers"

and it's all they do... all day... every day... for YEARS!

they have become so desensitized and disconnected from reality this type of act becomes a new way of living out their video game fantasy world..

it's like the 4chan troll generation

they have serious mental issues & no one to guide them

the problem isn't weapons

the problem is this fucked up society leading our children down the path of depravity from birth
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


This man has a point, back in the day a young man would be horrified to see someone dead or being injured, today if someone was killed or horrible injured some of this kids would probably laugh or find nothing bad about it. Some of this kids find things like joining the army and shooting people to be cool.
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I absolutely love GLP and I've been lurking here for a long long long time. Anyway, I've been in game design for 14 years and have been involved in the game industry for more than two decades. I've worked on about a dozen triple A titles. Tens of millions have (hopefully) enjoyed my work. So I'm not just some guy who made a web game or two for his CS class. Anyway, topics like are usually enough to draw me out.

Gamers are getting old and the games industry has gotten really, really big. 10+ years ago I kind of laughed at the idea we'd by surpassing the movie industry in sales but that actually happened. It makes sense though because my generation was weened on video games and generally, people don't give up their hobbies when they get older. They tend to refine their tastes in them as well as spend a whole lot more money on them.

Now first person shooters aren't my favorite genre and I've never worked on one. I enjoy RPGs, fighting games and other action games. Those are the sorts of game I've made. But when people spit the word "VIDEO GAMES" with that snotty church lady voice, they really mean first person shooters. They are not talking about Angry Birds or Sonic the Hedgehog.

Now with that said, the 18-25 male demographic are the ones most buying and playing first person shooters, followed secondly by the 25-40 demographic. These games are not for kids and that's why they all carry an M rating.

Asking to ban VIDEO GAMES (i.e. First Person Shooters) is like saying "ban R rated movies". They promote violence and stuff. We should also ban damn near everything shown on TV after 8pm on a weekday really.

Instead of banning, how about we enforce what we already have? How about we have tougher laws against stores that sell M rated games to kids? Or how about punishments for parents who let their kids play M-rated games?
What you're advocating here is trampling on the rights of grown adults to enjoy the kind of entertainment they prefer. It's a great topic starter for a Friday night but a bad idea generally
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I don't agree.
story telling has progressed with technology. Kids used to listen to story tellers now they can change the outcome to stories.
It's the education system that needs to accomodate these kids, they have grown up with media that is fast and action filled running at a constant quick pace so it's no wonder that they have no attention span. Kids these days won't sit through a film unless it's action filled, they just aren't use to that.
I work with these kind of kids and the education system is failing them.

I do not blame games, and gamers do understand and recognise reality.

There has always been and always will be some psychopaths born into this world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22538468


It sounds like the kids needs serius challenges, i belive they are born with ever increasing talents, school systems simply can not follow ball as its set up by adults.

Video games challenge only the mind, and gives a dopamine,endorfine, adrenaline mix its kinda like fake stimulants and gaming is more adicting then cocaine, take that from personal experience.

I dont know why i quit sports though
If the kids are allways told to hold back even if its subtle they will not get stimulated properly, maybe some grouping would be beneficial, people are different afterall.
Read between the lines
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if you take games out i will be on the news.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9927807


^^ THAT ^^ was the best comment this thread could ever have

clappa

i would also be on the news if violent games were not / didnt exist.

you people wanting violent games to be banned are totally irresponsible and disconnected of reality,

you just dont know how much anger (this is a fucked up world) this 3 last decades born kids bear and gather every fukin day.

if gamers had no way to unleash that mountain of anger you would see mass murders at every corner of your towns.

you better thank God that violent games exist or you would see us all on TV news headlines, included me, well at least when i was younger...violent games helped bear with that insane world until i gain in maturity.
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thats some fucked up logic you gotiamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29019521


Yeah, and believing that video games are the problem, when 99.9% of the people who play violent video games dont go on real life shooting sprees. Thats quite a brainbuster you have there. I have an idea! Blame the parents.
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it's true though

the generation this kid belongs to grew up on extremely graphic / realistic first person shooters & grand theft auto..

they don't watch T.V.

They don't have jobs..

They are "gamers"

and it's all they do... all day... every day... for YEARS!

they have become so desensitized and disconnected from reality this type of act becomes a new way of living out their video game fantasy world..

it's like the 4chan troll generation

they have serious mental issues & no one to guide them

the problem isn't weapons

the problem is this fucked up society leading our children down the path of depravity from birth
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


clappa
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Were training or brainwashing our youth
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now you are really talking crazy......shouldnt buy your children MATURE games. Starts with the parents and this parent could not control her child.
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Seriously. Who's really brainwashed?
Wait...what?
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maybe its the people that are the problem, there are no bad students, only bad teachers. stop looking for a scapegoat when the problem is right in front of u when u look in the mirror
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Were training or brainwashing our youth
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Agreed. This violent video games desensitize our youth to violence.
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)
nice avatar"holding gun"...terminator 2 now that was a non violent movie.....hypocrite much?loser
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OP...

You can't place a single blame on video games first! It's the parents!

Parents are the gate keepers for their children's future. If they don't give a s**t about their kids, guess what, their kids won't give a s**t about their lives.

Give love to know love...

When parents let their children do whatever they want, watch whatever they want, without explaining and teaching them true right from wrong, you get what we see. Mindless, brain washed kids that don't give a s**t about anyone, or anything.

Kids are sponges. They can't be subjected at an early age, to nothing but violence (parents, movies, video games, music), without KNOWING right from wrong.

When a child isn't taught right from wrong, the true meaning of family and loving one another, but instead pure violence....what do you think will happen!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11696497


Dont blame the parents.

the parents of TODAYS teens were raised in the 80s themselves...when vid games were first flooding the market.

Back then they were not as gory but still involed 99% time blowing something up or shooting something down.

Because they were not BLATANTLY gory THEIR parents saw no real HARM in them..so the teens and kids of those days packed the games palours to blow up and shoot and rack up high scores for all the KILLS they got..all innocent like.

But the PROGRAMMING was there..laying the GOUNDWORD for the NEXT generation.

Those kids grew up and had kids ALREADY HARDENED to constant killing..even if it was flashy spaceships they were mowing down...

Because they were already hardened...when the new style gore started coming in late 90s they didnt worry about it..it wasnt that far removed from what THEy were already used to as kids...then the battlefield game was made..and pandora opened the box.

The kids loved it...it was intense..realistic..challenging..and it was ONLY a simulation of ww2 right?

Not very gory..jusr basic graphics..but the IDEA was there..IN place..to get them used to shooting PEOPLE..over and over and over again...

Unreal tournament came in then too..same deal but WITH some gore..and set in the future..WITH some splats and gibbs...people were HOOKED.

And now..we have REALISTIC DOOM..played out MASSACRES..again and again and again...being PROUS of ya gibbs..ya kills..bragging on leader boards about your mass slaugheters.

Its FROG IN THE POT syndrome...

ITS NOT the parents..its thew GAMES makers of the 80s that PROGRAMMED the parents to think...ITS JUST A GAME.

THEY KNEW back then WHAT they would be bringing out in the years ahead..and they had to SOFTEN the blow..FIRST get the FUTURE oarents IMMUNE to endless killing..even of innocent "Aliens" and "Ships"...and go from there.

ITS WORKED.

WE NOW have a GENERATION OF FULLY TRAINED KILLING STRATEGISTS..EXPERT SNIPERS...MEAN ASSED SLAUGHTER EXPERTS..IMMUNE TO SHOCK AND GORE..

SHEEP..READY TO SLAUGHTER..when the time comes.

"AND THE SECOND SEAL WAS OPNED..and PEACE was taken from the earth..AND EVERYONE TURNED ON AND KILLED EVERYONE ELSE"

THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS..

ALL that needs to happen to SET IT OFF..

IS THE SIGNAL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17027639



How many TRULY RESPONSIBLE parents buy their kids CALL OF DUTY, and believe "ooooh, it' just a game". That's BS, and a cop out!

A TRULY RESPONSIBLE parent KNOWS what their kids are up to! They don't just let them buy games, just cuz "it's a game", or watch movies, just cuz "it's a movie"...

Any truly responsible parent raises their kid to be responsible, and teaches them right from wrong, fantasy from reality...BOTTOM LINE!!!

Hence, it starts at GROUND ZERO...PARENTS!
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spot on, if the games are rated and the parents ignore it and buy the kids the game anyway, how is that the games fault.
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Re: ban video games first
OP...

You can't place a single blame on video games first! It's the parents!

Parents are the gate keepers for their children's future. If they don't give a s**t about their kids, guess what, their kids won't give a s**t about their lives.

Give love to know love...

When parents let their children do whatever they want, watch whatever they want, without explaining and teaching them true right from wrong, you get what we see. Mindless, brain washed kids that don't give a s**t about anyone, or anything.

Kids are sponges. They can't be subjected at an early age, to nothing but violence (parents, movies, video games, music), without KNOWING right from wrong.

When a child isn't taught right from wrong, the true meaning of family and loving one another, but instead pure violence....what do you think will happen!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11696497


Dont blame the parents.

the parents of TODAYS teens were raised in the 80s themselves...when vid games were first flooding the market.

Back then they were not as gory but still involed 99% time blowing something up or shooting something down.

Because they were not BLATANTLY gory THEIR parents saw no real HARM in them..so the teens and kids of those days packed the games palours to blow up and shoot and rack up high scores for all the KILLS they got..all innocent like.

But the PROGRAMMING was there..laying the GOUNDWORD for the NEXT generation.

Those kids grew up and had kids ALREADY HARDENED to constant killing..even if it was flashy spaceships they were mowing down...

Because they were already hardened...when the new style gore started coming in late 90s they didnt worry about it..it wasnt that far removed from what THEy were already used to as kids...then the battlefield game was made..and pandora opened the box.

The kids loved it...it was intense..realistic..challenging..and it was ONLY a simulation of ww2 right?

Not very gory..jusr basic graphics..but the IDEA was there..IN place..to get them used to shooting PEOPLE..over and over and over again...

Unreal tournament came in then too..same deal but WITH some gore..and set in the future..WITH some splats and gibbs...people were HOOKED.

And now..we have REALISTIC DOOM..played out MASSACRES..again and again and again...being PROUS of ya gibbs..ya kills..bragging on leader boards about your mass slaugheters.

Its FROG IN THE POT syndrome...

ITS NOT the parents..its thew GAMES makers of the 80s that PROGRAMMED the parents to think...ITS JUST A GAME.

THEY KNEW back then WHAT they would be bringing out in the years ahead..and they had to SOFTEN the blow..FIRST get the FUTURE oarents IMMUNE to endless killing..even of innocent "Aliens" and "Ships"...and go from there.

ITS WORKED.

WE NOW have a GENERATION OF FULLY TRAINED KILLING STRATEGISTS..EXPERT SNIPERS...MEAN ASSED SLAUGHTER EXPERTS..IMMUNE TO SHOCK AND GORE..

SHEEP..READY TO SLAUGHTER..when the time comes.

"AND THE SECOND SEAL WAS OPNED..and PEACE was taken from the earth..AND EVERYONE TURNED ON AND KILLED EVERYONE ELSE"

THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS..

ALL that needs to happen to SET IT OFF..

IS THE SIGNAL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17027639



How many TRULY RESPONSIBLE parents buy their kids CALL OF DUTY, and believe "ooooh, it' just a game". That's BS, and a cop out!

A TRULY RESPONSIBLE parent KNOWS what their kids are up to! They don't just let them buy games, just cuz "it's a game", or watch movies, just cuz "it's a movie"...

Any truly responsible parent raises their kid to be responsible, and teaches them right from wrong, fantasy from reality...BOTTOM LINE!!!

Hence, it starts at GROUND ZERO...PARENTS!
rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11696497


But what if MOST PARENTS..were TRAINED to NOT BE FULLY RESPONSIBLE??

Do you get what I mean now?

READ my post again..these IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS>.were PROGRAMMED to be irresponsible.

BY WHO??

THE GAME AND MOVIE MAKERS OF THE 80s who PROGRAMMED THEM!!

NOW WE SEE THE FRUIT..and their SCAPEGOAT is BLAME THE POOR BASTARD WHO THEM SELVES were PROGRAMMED as kids IN the 80s to think KILLING IS FINE.

NOW..it IS FINE..see whats heppenned?

If these SAME games and movies were release in 1970...THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OUTCRY...

But why not NOW?

CAUSE...FROG IN THE POT SYNDROME..slowly..two generations boiled to DEATH..and they didnt even feel it.

I KNOW...I was born in 68..IVE SEEN IT AT WORK..and watched it happen..bit..by doomy bit.

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