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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29909308 12/14/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a problem at all. People can play plenty of violent videogames even from a young age and grow up fine. Once you start censoring things everything starts to look a lot more like 1984. You people don't want the second amendment banned, yet would be fine with infringing the first one?! |
| Krystal Love is the glue. Without it, we fall apart. User ID: 13385958 12/14/2012 08:04 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's true though Quoting: ^TrInItY^ the generation this kid belongs to grew up on extremely graphic / realistic first person shooters & grand theft auto.. they don't watch T.V. They don't have jobs.. They are "gamers" and it's all they do... all day... every day... for YEARS! they have become so desensitized and disconnected from reality this type of act becomes a new way of living out their video game fantasy world.. it's like the 4chan troll generation they have serious mental issues & no one to guide them the problem isn't weapons the problem is this fucked up society leading our children down the path of depravity from birth So sad, but it is so true. Love yourself first! Then u can truly love another. |
| a_game_designer_01 User ID: 29104310 12/14/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ironically there was still the same spine ripping and such! That surprised me. The same thing happened with Street Fighter on the SNES as well. They replaced the red blood and orange vomit with white sweat and green snot, respectively. That was at the behest of Nintendo since they. They wanted to retain their family image while still reaping a gazillion dollars from the products. |
| Brian Moser User ID: 27317240 12/14/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about Doom? Do you remember that one? It came out in 1993 so I have to wonder where all the hardcore killers are that played it when they were teens. What about Mario? I mean, think about it... at the end of the level, there was a peace sign on the flag. That means this jerk was destroying their brick architectures and killing Koopas who only wanted peace. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| Brian Moser User ID: 27317240 12/14/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ironically there was still the same spine ripping and such! That surprised me. The same thing happened with Street Fighter on the SNES as well. They replaced the red blood and orange vomit with white sweat and green snot, respectively. That was at the behest of Nintendo since they. They wanted to retain their family image while still reaping a gazillion dollars from the products. Ah, yes. I remember now! I miss the 90's. I also remember when Warcraft II came out, I couldn't buy it without an adult because it had "gore". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29382374 12/14/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, I agree. Quoting: Mister Obvious Take the games before the guns... It's fucking common sense. People are being desensitized to violence on a mass scale, brainwashed to think it's 'cool'. Guns don't fucking do that. The media and entertainment industry does. The problem isn't violent games. The problem is idiot parents who don't monitor what their kids are doing. They're not involved in the kids life, which means they never teach their kids how to treat others, right and wrong, or even the difference between fantasy and reality. I've been playing "violent" games since I was a kid. Doom, Mortal Kombat, all that crap that was supposed to turn me into raving bloodthirsty psychopath. My dad used to play those games with me. And guess what? I have no desire to gun down anyone. Besides, if we're going to ban video games just because somebody somewhere might get a bad idea and do something violent, well there's a lot of other stuff we've got to ban right along with it. Heck, we should ban football by that logic. I mean, have you seen the way they knock each other around out there? Where will the violence end?! You want the right to bear arms at the expense of trampling other freedoms. How about we keep both freedoms and start expecting parents to take responsibility for their kids? |
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| Generation Doom User ID: 20816248 12/14/2012 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scapegoating is the truth now... You heard it on GLP folks. |
| Beltway Bandit User ID: 25992474 12/14/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about Doom? Do you remember that one? It came out in 1993 so I have to wonder where all the hardcore killers are that played it when they were teens. What about Mario? I mean, think about it... at the end of the level, there was a peace sign on the flag. That means this jerk was destroying their brick architectures and killing Koopas who only wanted peace. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I played Doom a lot in 1995. I now lobby on the Hill with Congress for financial legislation that serves The Powers That Be more than the sheep. You do the math. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1395091 12/14/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now if you REALLY want a great GLP style conspiracy topic, talk about the way FUNDING a game works. Imagine walking into a room full of suits and saying, "I have this great idea! Can I have $25 million?" The people who control the purse strings determine what gets made. Quoting: a_game_designer_01 29104310 Call of the Duty sales have been surpassing a BILLION frigging dollars. That's one reason they get funded. But honestly, it's the same game every year (just like Madden)! Same game but with new assets, maps and models cooked up with whatever the latest/hottest shader and lighting tech is available and with 20% more polys on screen. I'm going to go out on a limb here though and predict we may be seeing the FPS markest beginning to crest. You may laugh but "E-Sports" are beginning to gain serious ground. It's to the point that it is beginning to influence game design. Make sure your game is as fun to watch as it is to play so pros can stream it and spectators can watch it! There's a huge side-market brewing with "E-Sports" that has gotten the attention of the project funders. Current FPS games don't make great E-Sports simply because they are not as fun to watch as games like League of Legends, Street Fighter or even a platformer or a good MMO. Not to mention, the ultra-violence of it turns a lot of people off. So the next decade will likely see the marginalization of the first person shooter genre unless they take serious steps to make it more fun to watch. The problem is they may try but doing so will likely marginalize their core player base, reduce sales (and future funding) and slowly strangling the FPS genre out either way. Dont forget Dota 2 by Valve. Currently 180,000 concurrent players & it's still not officially released. IT's also great to watch, & casters can make a living off casting professional matches because of the amount of viewers streaming their videos. Downright illogical to ban video games. We play the same games as Americans here in Australia, do you see regular killing sprees occuring here? No. So it's obviously not the games. Start by making it HARDER to get pistols. Don't ban them, but put a license system in place which monitors holders. |
| a_game_designer_01 User ID: 29104310 12/14/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, I agree. Quoting: Mister Obvious Take the games before the guns... It's fucking common sense. People are being desensitized to violence on a mass scale, brainwashed to think it's 'cool'. Guns don't fucking do that. The media and entertainment industry does. The problem isn't violent games. The problem is idiot parents who don't monitor what their kids are doing. They're not involved in the kids life, which means they never teach their kids how to treat others, right and wrong, or even the difference between fantasy and reality. I've been playing "violent" games since I was a kid. Doom, Mortal Kombat, all that crap that was supposed to turn me into raving bloodthirsty psychopath. My dad used to play those games with me. And guess what? I have no desire to gun down anyone. Besides, if we're going to ban video games just because somebody somewhere might get a bad idea and do something violent, well there's a lot of other stuff we've got to ban right along with it. Heck, we should ban football by that logic. I mean, have you seen the way they knock each other around out there? Where will the violence end?! You want the right to bear arms at the expense of trampling other freedoms. How about we keep both freedoms and start expecting parents to take responsibility for their kids? There are some often-quoted studies that point to video games and violent behavior in children. But the studies don't prove what they claimed to be proving. The same studies were conducted but instead of video game the children variously played: - Dodge Ball - Football - Baseball In all cases, an increase in violent behavior was noted immediately after the children played the sports. Both Football and Dodgeball had the most dramatic impact and resulted in even more violent behavior than video game or baseball. So really this just proves that riled up kids are more violent than kids who are not all riled up. At the very least we should really be talking about banning Football and Dodgeball before we worry about video games. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29382374 12/14/2012 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, I agree. Quoting: Mister Obvious Take the games before the guns... It's fucking common sense. People are being desensitized to violence on a mass scale, brainwashed to think it's 'cool'. Guns don't fucking do that. The media and entertainment industry does. The problem isn't violent games. The problem is idiot parents who don't monitor what their kids are doing. They're not involved in the kids life, which means they never teach their kids how to treat others, right and wrong, or even the difference between fantasy and reality. I've been playing "violent" games since I was a kid. Doom, Mortal Kombat, all that crap that was supposed to turn me into raving bloodthirsty psychopath. My dad used to play those games with me. And guess what? I have no desire to gun down anyone. Besides, if we're going to ban video games just because somebody somewhere might get a bad idea and do something violent, well there's a lot of other stuff we've got to ban right along with it. Heck, we should ban football by that logic. I mean, have you seen the way they knock each other around out there? Where will the violence end?! You want the right to bear arms at the expense of trampling other freedoms. How about we keep both freedoms and start expecting parents to take responsibility for their kids? There are some often-quoted studies that point to video games and violent behavior in children. But the studies don't prove what they claimed to be proving. The same studies were conducted but instead of video game the children variously played: - Dodge Ball - Football - Baseball In all cases, an increase in violent behavior was noted immediately after the children played the sports. Both Football and Dodgeball had the most dramatic impact and resulted in even more violent behavior than video game or baseball. So really this just proves that riled up kids are more violent than kids who are not all riled up. At the very least we should really be talking about banning Football and Dodgeball before we worry about video games. No, what we need to ban are adrenaline rushes. Anything that might "stimulate" somebody and get the blood pumping. Today, video games. Tomorrow, sex. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26722973 12/14/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats RIGHT! They WANT their doom...they NEED to kill and KILL and KILL AGAIN. Given the chance...all those who SAY they would not actually DO it in real life..well..when they see society going nuts..and they have a gun..SUDDENLY..every trick they learnt in those games will come flooding back..and the SAME cold unfeeling way they pulled of headshots in the game will be played out in real life..except...there are NO respawn points in real life..and no powerups..medkits..or upgrades. They will kill and kill..like they do in the games. And if they are good enough they might even get a "MONSTER KILL" before their turn to be gibbed comes up. All this talk of banning video games is nonsense. Guns don't kill people... People kill people with guns. So logically all the fucktard mentally ill so be "banned". Mentally ill are a drain on society. They do nothing but parasite their host. If they have no useful skills, can't or don't work and are diagnosed mentally ill they should be lined up and shot... euthanized or otherwise scientifically experimented on. The population is growing too big in a world which is too small. No one has time for mental retards. It may seem cold, but think about this when tears are shed for these poor, innocent children. What kind of mental fuck up goes and shoots children? How many children will not go home to their families for the holidays before we get smart as a society? The only other option is to increase the number of educators who carry or to station police in our schools. Which is less intrusive and more cost effective? You decide. |
| Brian Moser User ID: 27317240 12/14/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about Doom? Do you remember that one? It came out in 1993 so I have to wonder where all the hardcore killers are that played it when they were teens. What about Mario? I mean, think about it... at the end of the level, there was a peace sign on the flag. That means this jerk was destroying their brick architectures and killing Koopas who only wanted peace. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I played Doom a lot in 1995. I now lobby on the Hill with Congress for financial legislation that serves The Powers That Be more than the sheep. You do the math. So, are you known for walking around with a shotgun? |
| Lancelot User ID: 17392071 12/14/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Violent video games are a young male response to disempowerment. Men need to be re-empowered to enforce law within their communities and defend their loved ones. Encouraging gun ownership would help. Banning video games is not the answer. Returning power to local communities and empowering young men is the answer. Yes, I agree with you. The problem of desensitizing our youth to embrace violence as a form of entertainment is a major distressing problem and I can not only blame video games for that but the MSM as well. Violence is thrust upon all of us for its sheer sensationalism and nothing else - and that equates to pure GREED once more. The values of our youth is systematically being undermined to silently and even joyously accept violence. I find that not only unacceptable but downright criminal on the part of our educational and parental sociological system. Frankly, I am ashamed to be part of this part of society! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8032361 12/14/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Downright illogical to ban video games. We play the same games as Americans here in Australia, do you see regular killing sprees occuring here? No. So it's obviously not the games. Start by making it HARDER to get pistols. Don't ban them, but put a license system in place which monitors holders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1395091 We have strict laws governing the sale of alcohol so that teenagers can't buy it. You need a license to sell it. Guess what? Kids still drink. A lot. Our cities are riddled with street gangs armed to the teeth. It's a safe bet to say those guns weren't bought legally and that they're not registered. More restrictive laws aren't the answer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6987843 12/14/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is absolutely desensitizing youth to the actual consequences of violence. Uber realistic violent video games tap into the fight or flight instinct and encourage fight with no real consequence. So when conflict arises in real life, this is what happens. No one should be surprised. It's Psych 101. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26951887 12/14/2012 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not use my hora sword and my hora staff in public to kill people. Banning video games is like banning movies. Time for USA to have more security guards for their schools and public places. This random shooting happens most of the time in the USA. Maybe because it is a lot easier to acquire a gun in your country or your country doesn't require citizens to be checked for firearms upon entering schools or offices. Prayers for the victims and their families. |
| Brian Moser User ID: 27317240 12/14/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is absolutely desensitizing youth to the actual consequences of violence. Uber realistic violent video games tap into the fight or flight instinct and encourage fight with no real consequence. So when conflict arises in real life, this is what happens. No one should be surprised. It's Psych 101. Yes, because banning something never makes kids think it's "cool". ![]() |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1395091 12/14/2012 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Downright illogical to ban video games. We play the same games as Americans here in Australia, do you see regular killing sprees occuring here? No. So it's obviously not the games. Start by making it HARDER to get pistols. Don't ban them, but put a license system in place which monitors holders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1395091 We have strict laws governing the sale of alcohol so that teenagers can't buy it. You need a license to sell it. Guess what? Kids still drink. A lot. Our cities are riddled with street gangs armed to the teeth. It's a safe bet to say those guns weren't bought legally and that they're not registered. More restrictive laws aren't the answer. Either is banning video games. Was it a gang member who went in & killed these children? No. It was a civilian, bro. In case you didn't get the memo. It's actually time America looks at it's gunlaws & reforms them. Whilst there were less than a hundred gun related deaths in places like Japan, Britain, Switzerland, Canada, Israel, Sweden, & germany, America had over 10,000. & you're saying stricter laws aren't the answer? Ok. |