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Where was your God when that evil bastard killed those babies?

 
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God has been warning people against continuing to birth sinners into this evil world for thousands of years.

Does man listen to his Creator?

Not hardly.
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Are we supposed to birth perfect people?
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Where is my God! People like you through him out of the USA, and made us take down his commandments from the courthouses! You made us take prayer out of schools, and you have the nerves to say were is God!
It is people like you that bring evil on us.
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I am your God, Don't ever forget this.
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Heres your 100% proof that there is no loving God..How could a God that knows "everything" allow this?

Is God not willing to stop evil? or is he powerless to? If so why even call him a GOD.

God is Bullshit, and the religious people and twisted minds created by it are what has caused this horrific massacre.
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:same question:
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We are given free will dumb ass. Even to kill babies. If your a Man, deal with it, if you are a mouse, hide from it.
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He was outside of that school, where He was told to go in 1963. He's a Gentleman and doesn't violate the free will of public employees willing to work in a system like that.
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What about protecting the children that didn't/don't have a choice???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26636255

Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. (Ps. 51:5)

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one (Rom. 3:10)

Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole
heaven is mine. (Job 41:11)

But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but
weep for yourselves, and for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in
the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare,
and the paps which never gave suck. (Luke 23:28-29)

For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not. (Job 33:14)
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Heres your 100% proof that there is no loving God..How could a God that knows "everything" allow this?

Is God not willing to stop evil? or is he powerless to? If so why even call him a GOD.

God is Bullshit, and the religious people and twisted minds created by it are what has caused this horrific massacre.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17444403


To begin, let me state that I believe in God. Many of us do not but for the sake of argument let's say that he is real. Let's carry that a bit further and say that Heaven is real and that it truly is the most wondrous place one could imagine. There is no evil there; only good. There is no pain but instead an abundance of happiness and joy only and pleasures your human senses could not even begin to comprehend. Let's just pose a hypothetical for this purpose and assume all of the above to be true. Now, I am going to ask you a question. Do you think they were better off here on this fallen planet? Where do you think they would rather be if the above hypothetical were true?

My point is this: From our perspective this is a horrible, heart-wrenching atrocity committed by an evil or disturbed inividual (take your pick)that snuffed out the lives of many very young children who will never have a chance to live out their lives. That is all we see. We see only the bad, not the good that the hypothetical scenario shows which is ultimately better than anything this world could ever offer. We don't see this. God does. God could have prevented this. God could have prevented the holocaust. God could have prevented a baby from being born from cancer. So why doesn't God put a stop to all this?

Truthfully, this is a difficult question to answer and "It was God's will", the biggest cop-out excuse that any christian will offer when posed with these hard questions, is not an acceptable answer. It is probably the most common but it is also the most illegitimate response one could offer. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it was not God's will that a gunman mow down 20 or more innocent children but it happened. Our Father in heaven did not will this to happen. He did not want it to happen but yes, he allowed it to happen. He is not powerless to stop it. He will stop it. He will stop it when he sends his son Yeshua back to this earth to rule with a rod of iron and bring peace and prosperity to our planet. Why the long wait? Honestly, I don't know but if you are still living when he arrives within the next 6 years, you may get a chance to ask him. Until then, find solace in the fact that those children, along with the countless others that haved passed before them and those still to follow, are in a place of unimaginable beauty embraced in the very arms of love itself.
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Re: Where was your God when that evil bastard killed those babies?
Heres your 100% proof that there is no loving God..How could a God that knows "everything" allow this?

Is God not willing to stop evil? or is he powerless to? If so why even call him a GOD.

God is Bullshit, and the religious people and twisted minds created by it are what has caused this horrific massacre.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17444403


I hate the fact that you think you're ignorance of the way the Universe works equates to you being able to do ANYTHING you want to do AND being completely DELUSIONAL and USELESS.

No. I am God.

Everything you do will be accounted for.
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how damned egotistical on both side of the thread...christians and what i am to assume is agnostics/atheists...do you have to be to try and take a massacre to justify your worldview...faith is a personal journey folks will decide what they believe based on past knowledge handed down to them from trusted faces and assigning meaning to things in their expirience, whether that meaning is divinely inspired or not i dont know...but i will tell you using death for a soapbox makes your point seem very hollow
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Read the Bible! God is love, he's not the author of evil. God was asked to leave our schools a long time ago. When that happens, it opens the door for the true author of evil, satan, to do as he pleases through demon possessed psychopaths he has under his control. It's going to get a whole lot worse, if ya'll would read the Bible about the end times, you'd understand, but since you refuse to believe, you have nothing better to do than blame a God you claim doesn't even exist! Talk about psycho!
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Heres your 100% proof that there is no loving God..How could a God that knows "everything" allow this?

Is God not willing to stop evil? or is he powerless to? If so why even call him a GOD.

God is Bullshit, and the religious people and twisted minds created by it are what has caused this horrific massacre.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17444403


The God of this world is Satan, according to the bible that you despise.

Therefore, the god you presume to hate was right there as those kids were murdered. Please, hate the god of this world more. Too many ignoramuses hate God almighty and worship the god of this world for the very things they blame God Almighty for that are directly due to the god of this world.

Cheers for being yet another in the endless idiocy that has zero understanding of who is responsible.
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I god is omniscient and omnipotent, then he knew it would happen and let it happen.

God is not to be loved.

God is to be feared.
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If god is omniscient and omnipotent, then he knew it would happen and let it happen.

God is not to be loved.

God is to be feared.
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I think I would have come to the same conclusion as you if I viewed life through as narrow a lens as you.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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God has been warning people against continuing to birth sinners into this evil world for thousands of years.

Does man listen to his Creator?

Not hardly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


Are we supposed to birth perfect people?
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What do you have to do to prevent "birthing a sinner"? I really want to know the answer to this please. Because according to the Christian religion I am familiar with, ALL babies are born with original sin. That is why we baptize them. So all babies born are sinners.

Again, how do you birth a sin free child?
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Heres your 100% proof that there is no loving God..How could a God that knows "everything" allow this?

Is God not willing to stop evil? or is he powerless to? If so why even call him a GOD.

God is Bullshit, and the religious people and twisted minds created by it are what has caused this horrific massacre.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17444403


To begin, let me state that I believe in God. Many of us do not but for the sake of argument let's say that he is real. Let's carry that a bit further and say that Heaven is real and that it truly is the most wondrous place one could imagine. There is no evil there; only good. There is no pain but instead an abundance of happiness and joy only and pleasures your human senses could not even begin to comprehend. Let's just pose a hypothetical for this purpose and assume all of the above to be true. Now, I am going to ask you a question. Do you think they were better off here on this fallen planet? Where do you think they would rather be if the above hypothetical were true?

My point is this: From our perspective this is a horrible, heart-wrenching atrocity committed by an evil or disturbed inividual (take your pick)that snuffed out the lives of many very young children who will never have a chance to live out their lives. That is all we see. We see only the bad, not the good that the hypothetical scenario shows which is ultimately better than anything this world could ever offer. We don't see this. God does. God could have prevented this. God could have prevented the holocaust. God could have prevented a baby from being born from cancer. So why doesn't God put a stop to all this?

Truthfully, this is a difficult question to answer and "It was God's will", the biggest cop-out excuse that any christian will offer when posed with these hard questions, is not an acceptable answer. It is probably the most common but it is also the most illegitimate response one could offer. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it was not God's will that a gunman mow down 20 or more innocent children but it happened. Our Father in heaven did not will this to happen. He did not want it to happen but yes, he allowed it to happen. He is not powerless to stop it. He will stop it. He will stop it when he sends his son Yeshua back to this earth to rule with a rod of iron and bring peace and prosperity to our planet. Why the long wait? Honestly, I don't know but if you are still living when he arrives within the next 6 years, you may get a chance to ask him. Until then, find solace in the fact that those children, along with the countless others that haved passed before them and those still to follow, are in a place of unimaginable beauty embraced in the very arms of love itself.
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A couple things. You have no idea when Jesus is coming back and whether or not it will be within the next 6 years, no man knows when that will be. Secondly, those kids aren't in heaven right now. They are dead, and will be resting in their graves til Jesus comes. People don't go to heaven or hell at death, the Bible says the "sleep" until the resurrection of life or the resurrection of damnation. With that said, there is no comprehension of time in the grave, so the next thing they see will be Jesus coming to get them. The Bible says COMFORT one another with those words. They are resting and in the twinkling of an eye, the next thing they see will be Jesus when they are resurrected at His coming.
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You're an idiot...ever read the Bible? Evil will increase until the end...SATAN is the "god" of this world until then.
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is there more evil today than in Old Testament times?

one shooter killed two dozen people, but how about a God that tells Hebrews to slaughter whole towns?

what would you think if that went on today? what do you say about thousands of Hebrews storming a town and shooting all the little children in every school? and every last man, every last boy, and all the women who were not virgins? so there is not one person left in the entire town, just bloody dead bodies all over that they shot?

there was evil to begin with. we got rid of it. it is nowhere bad as it used to be. it is not getting worse, relatively speaking.
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Yep, sure helps put things into perspective about the so-called 'evil' times we live in.
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Heres your 100% proof that there is no loving God..How could a God that knows "everything" allow this?

Is God not willing to stop evil? or is he powerless to? If so why even call him a GOD.

God is Bullshit, and the religious people and twisted minds created by it are what has caused this horrific massacre.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17444403


To begin, let me state that I believe in God. Many of us do not but for the sake of argument let's say that he is real. Let's carry that a bit further and say that Heaven is real and that it truly is the most wondrous place one could imagine. There is no evil there; only good. There is no pain but instead an abundance of happiness and joy only and pleasures your human senses could not even begin to comprehend. Let's just pose a hypothetical for this purpose and assume all of the above to be true. Now, I am going to ask you a question. Do you think they were better off here on this fallen planet? Where do you think they would rather be if the above hypothetical were true?

My point is this: From our perspective this is a horrible, heart-wrenching atrocity committed by an evil or disturbed inividual (take your pick)that snuffed out the lives of many very young children who will never have a chance to live out their lives. That is all we see. We see only the bad, not the good that the hypothetical scenario shows which is ultimately better than anything this world could ever offer. We don't see this. God does. God could have prevented this. God could have prevented the holocaust. God could have prevented a baby from being born from cancer. So why doesn't God put a stop to all this?

Truthfully, this is a difficult question to answer and "It was God's will", the biggest cop-out excuse that any christian will offer when posed with these hard questions, is not an acceptable answer. It is probably the most common but it is also the most illegitimate response one could offer. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it was not God's will that a gunman mow down 20 or more innocent children but it happened. Our Father in heaven did not will this to happen. He did not want it to happen but yes, he allowed it to happen. He is not powerless to stop it. He will stop it. He will stop it when he sends his son Yeshua back to this earth to rule with a rod of iron and bring peace and prosperity to our planet. Why the long wait? Honestly, I don't know but if you are still living when he arrives within the next 6 years, you may get a chance to ask him. Until then, find solace in the fact that those children, along with the countless others that haved passed before them and those still to follow, are in a place of unimaginable beauty embraced in the very arms of love itself.
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A couple things. You have no idea when Jesus is coming back and whether or not it will be within the next 6 years, no man knows when that will be. Secondly, those kids aren't in heaven right now. They are dead, and will be resting in their graves til Jesus comes. People don't go to heaven or hell at death, the Bible says the "sleep" until the resurrection of life or the resurrection of damnation. With that said, there is no comprehension of time in the grave, so the next thing they see will be Jesus coming to get them. The Bible says COMFORT one another with those words. They are resting and in the twinkling of an eye, the next thing they see will be Jesus when they are resurrected at His coming.
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Nope, sorry you are wrong. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Remember Lazarus and the rich man, the rich man was in hell, Lazarus was being comforted in Abraham's bosom.
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You're an idiot...ever read the Bible? Evil will increase until the end...SATAN is the "god" of this world until then.
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is there more evil today than in Old Testament times?

one shooter killed two dozen people, but how about a God that tells Hebrews to slaughter whole towns?

what would you think if that went on today? what do you say about thousands of Hebrews storming a town and shooting all the little children in every school? and every last man, every last boy, and all the women who were not virgins? so there is not one person left in the entire town, just bloody dead bodies all over that they shot?

there was evil to begin with. we got rid of it. it is nowhere bad as it used to be. it is not getting worse, relatively speaking.
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The God you refer to is Satan. Satan is literally the God of this world. He was a murderer and a deceiver from the beginning. Do you really think that the loving Father that Jesus refers to is the same "god" of the old testament? The same god that wrote the 10 Commandments? What is the first commandment? "Thou shalt have no other gods before me for I am a jealous and vengeful god." That has Satan written all over it. Do you really think the creator of the universeand everything in it would give a rat's ass if we chose to worship him or not?

Satan said "I will be like the most high god" not "I will be the most high God" He couldn't be god over the heavenly host (Angels - other created beings and no, angels do not wear flowing gowns, and play harps. He had no chance in hell of over-taking an all-powerful force so he made lesser-beings to worship him; us. He was cast out of heaven for this but he is still the ruler of this world and will be until he is imprisoned for a thousand years upon the return of Jesus Christ after which he will be let loose for a while to see if he has learned his lesson. He won't of course which will ultimately lead to his destruction in the lake of fire. The prodigal son that would not return. God loves Satan that much. That is why he has not been dealt with from the onset.
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God is not a liar. He said evil would increase to levels seen when He wiped out humanity with the flood. It is prophecized in the bible, and therefore it has to happen.

If he intervened it would never come to full completion. Sad yes, but a sign of mankind's turn to evil.
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Go play your xbox junior.
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God is not a liar. He said evil would increase to levels seen when He wiped out humanity with the flood. It is prophecized in the bible, and therefore it has to happen.

If he intervened it would never come to full completion. Sad yes, but a sign of mankind's turn to evil.
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If he is going to wipe out humanity with a flood then that is intervening. Why didn't he just get it over with a long time ago? What's the purpose of waiting, just to say "See, I told you it was going to get worse"...? What is the point of that?
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He was outside of that school, where He was told to go in 1963. He's a Gentleman and doesn't violate the free will of public employees willing to work in a system like that.
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What about protecting the children that didn't/don't have a choice???
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The children are angels, they will be with God right now. The soul goes on.

But so sad for those left behind to grieve.
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How simple of you to believe that God controls us like tiny action figures.
That idiot used his own free will to do what he did
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God isn't allowed in schools anymore. Wanna blame somebody besides the shooter? Talk to the people who kicked God out of schools and decided that teaching basic morality was against the rules.

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Heres your 100% proof that there is no loving God..How could a God that knows "everything" allow this?

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A couple things. You have no idea when Jesus is coming back and whether or not it will be within the next 6 years, no man knows when that will be. Secondly, those kids aren't in heaven right now. They are dead, and will be resting in their graves til Jesus comes. People don't go to heaven or hell at death, the Bible says the "sleep" until the resurrection of life or the resurrection of damnation. With that said, there is no comprehension of time in the grave, so the next thing they see will be Jesus coming to get them. The Bible says COMFORT one another with those words. They are resting and in the twinkling of an eye, the next thing they see will be Jesus when they are resurrected at His coming.
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Actually, I do know that Jesus is coming back in less than 6 years. Or to be more to the point, he has to else he is a liar and definitely no son of God. There are very clear time-lines and indicators. Specifically the Parable of The Fig Tree. "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

Any so-called bible expert worth his/her salt knows this is referring to Israel and her rebirth as a nation in 1948. In Hebrew customs, a boy of 19 was considered "yet tender". Not yet a man but not a boy. When applied to the above parable, it reads like this.: " When you see Israel shoot forth leaves (19 years after being reborn in 1948 Israel captures Jerusalem, takes over Gaza, West Bank, etc...) you will know that the return of Christ is close at hand. The generation to see this shall not pass until all the prophecies are fulfilled culminating in the 2nd Coming. There are several numbers used for generations in the Bible: 40 years, 54 years & 70 years. Seeing how there has been no second coming 40 or 54 years after Israel was reborn as a nation, the only option left is 70 years. 1948 + 70 years = 2018. Now I'm no mathematical genius but I would say that would be less than 6 years from now. Coincidentally enough, the last of that generation to remain alive is former Israeli Prime-minister Ariel Sharon and he just happens to have been in a coma since 2006. Is that a coincidence?

This is what his son says about him. In October 2011, Sharon's son Gilad said that he was responsive, though still incapable of significant movement. “When he is awake, he looks at me and moves fingers when I ask him to.” “He lies in bed, looking like the lord of the manor, sleeping tranquilly. Large, strong, self assured. His cheeks are a healthy shade of red. When he’s awake, he looks out with a penetrating stare. He hasn’t lost a single pound; on the contrary, he’s gained some"
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You're an idiot...ever read the Bible? Evil will increase until the end...SATAN is the "god" of this world until then.
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God has lots of built-in excuses.
Epicurus was right.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
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You're an idiot...ever read the Bible? Evil will increase until the end...SATAN is the "god" of this world until then.
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God has lots of built-in excuses.
Epicurus was right.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
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Humans are quite inventive in their excuses and in creating a god in their own image. And then when this created-god falls short of their created expectations, then we get words like those of Epicurus.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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In His absence why didn't 'we' stop it, along with the 25,000 other children that die daily.
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God has been warning people against continuing to birth sinners into this evil world for thousands of years.

Does man listen to his Creator?

Not hardly.
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Are we supposed to birth perfect people?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28913566

For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou
that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath
an husband. (Gal. 4:27)

And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
(Matt. 24:19)

Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which
are yet alive. Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath
not seen the evil work that is done under the sun. (Eccl. 4:2-3)

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