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Anyone traveled South America?

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/15/2012 04:32 AM
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As you can see nice modern architecture in Lima and not just the colonial and barroque.
Slums in the outskirts in Brazil and Lima is something you should avoid. Like in India ....
Jackie Howe (OP)
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12/15/2012 06:38 AM
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From La Paz to Lima is okey if you travel by the so-called "train of death"
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Sounds like my kind of train.
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12/15/2012 08:48 AM
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From La Paz to Lima is okey if you travel by the so-called "train of death"
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Sounds like my kind of train.
 Quoting: Jackie Howe 29848411


I was in that train from Bolivia to Peru and the name is no accident. On February 3 guys died in an accident with a wagon:
[link to trome.pe]
You better go by bus or plane straight to Cuzco and Machu Picchu (after going to Titicaca river) . Machu Picchu entrance alone maybe 100 bucks or more but a 2 or 3 days tour in Cuzco is the best of the trip , then go to Lima , Bogotá and Mexico.
In Cuzco the places you just CAN'T MISS is Cathedral, Machu Picchu, Sacsayhuaman and Ollantaytambo. Probably you'll want to buy a 'poncho' made with 'alpaca' wool which is a relative of the lamas... and some gloves or a chullo which is the "cap" protecting your ears and some T-shirts. Eat a native food called 'Pachamanca' which is cooked inside a hole in the ground and covered with coca leaves, etc. The food is cooked with hot stones. The train of death gotta be taken from Bolivia to Cuzco or anywhere near Cuzco BUT NOT TO LIMA. The train doesn't go to Lima actually.
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12/15/2012 08:56 AM
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I was in Iquitos, the Amazon Peruvian jungle as well. You can try to contact these fellows using Ayahuasca within a rite which includes music. Try to see if there's a local zoo where you can see a black or spotted jaguar. I played with a big cub and could've lost my foot once due to my stupidity.

Silver moon melting on the blackness of the rivers at night is something to remember as well as the jungle noise. Chickens there are cooked with blood in their bodies because they their throats are not slit. You can try fish if you don't wanna eat that chicken.

I don't remember mosquitos disturbing me but it's always good to protect yourself before. You can sail with those boats on the river and you will feel like some of those characters from Vargas Llosa or Garcia Marquez novels....
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12/15/2012 09:01 AM
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Forget Rio and Sao Paulo. Go to Florianopolis, in Santa Catarina State.
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12/15/2012 09:05 AM
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And have in mind that Brazil is more expensive compared to other south american countries.
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12/15/2012 09:13 AM
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Florianopolis is another option but I guess Aussie friend here wants to know representative part of Brazil and that's why I suggested forget São Paulo. Rio can't be missed if it were just because Corcovado Christ makes Statue of Liberty look like a dwarf in comparison.

Florianopolis and Ouro Preto (with its 18th Century Barroque churches are optional or Natal beaches cleaner than the ones from Bahia.
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12/15/2012 09:14 AM

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Florianopolis is another option but I guess Aussie friend here wants to know representative part of Brazil and that's why I suggested forget São Paulo. Rio can't be missed if it were just because Corcovado Christ makes Statue of Liberty look like a dwarf in comparison.

Florianopolis and Ouro Preto (with its 18th Century Barroque churches are optional or Natal beaches cleaner than the ones from Bahia.
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Yeah, Ouro Preto is worth seeing.
free your inner baboon.
Anonymous Coward
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12/15/2012 09:19 AM
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I wonder myself why O.P. completely missed Chile which are as clean and wonderful as south of Brazil. Santiago is nice and clean. People don't use graffiti like houses and buildings almost whenever.
O.P. in case you wanna go to Chile I suggest you travel in excellent trains or buses from Santiago to Osorno, Frutillar, Puerto Montt, etc.... you can go to Patagonia if you want. Atacama desert has its beauty. I did such trips and I compare Atacama with Sahara desert. I was there too many years ago.
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12/15/2012 09:24 AM
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Ouro Preto is like getting back to 17 or 18th century specially in August with the winter fog vanishing the streets and making things visible again when the 'veil' is removed:

You have to remember in Minas Gerais, Brazil, some people still use wagons or sort of charriots pulled by horses or "cowboys" ride horses with typical hats.
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12/15/2012 09:28 AM
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My kids love the La Paz area. They both did biking there. Good luck and have a wonderful time. I jealous happy for you.hf
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12/15/2012 09:34 AM
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I wonder myself why O.P. completely missed Chile which are as clean and wonderful as south of Brazil
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The places, outskirts of the cities and houses are wonderful, I meant. Food is terrible in Chile! Seafood without any good sauce. They had to borrow the "pisco sour" beverage from Peru cos its fame. I know this for sure cos my several relatives in Chile never ever even KNEW pisco sour until some decades ago when it reached some fame as a drink. The same with 'cebiche' (cooked with lemon juice). Chile doesn't even have the proper sour lemon to cook the fish.
In Chile you can eat these sandwiches they call "completos" (full ones) which is a kick to the liver: hot dogs + mashed advocado + tomatoe + mayonese. I like them. Besides that you can eat Arabian food, fried chicken and ice creams and a local non-alcoholic drink (mate con huesillos) which has a unique taste.
In Argentina you can eat red meat barbecue, french fries and pasta. Wine is good both in Chile and Argentina.
In Brazil people drink excellent beer, richer ones whisky, Caipirinha is for tourists or eventually. Sometimes vodka with natural fruits. In Peru the number of drinks is incredibly high
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12/15/2012 10:00 AM
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Doing an around the world next may/june with the majority of the time in the Amazon and Galapagos.

I can do Melb-Bkk-Tokyo-Seoul-Dubai-Cairo-Venice-Miami-San Diego-Melb for about $5837.

So I get in Tokyo, Seoul, Dubai, Cairo, and Venice before landing in San Diego, where I plan to bus/fly into South America.

Or I can do Melb-Mexico City-Bogota-Sao Paulo-Lima-Quito-Miami-Cairo-Dubai-Tokyo-Melb for about $7k.

I miss out on Venie and Seoul (been to San Diego before).

Its only $1000 more, but covers South America.

Does anyone have a link for a good bus company that does South America?

If I did the first one, from SD, I plan to do Mexico City, Bogota, Rio, Sao Paulo, Uruguay, La Paz, Lima, and Quito.

Could I bus the whole way, or would I have to fly from Bogota to Rio?

Would $100 a day cover food and accom?
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Cairo is not a good place to go now!!!! Don't climb the false Sinai. It's interesting climb but it's not real. Dive in the Red Sea and smoke narguile resting over a carpet in those hotels near Red Sea. Ride a dromedar from sphinx to the Great Pyramid or a "real" ride. Drink the fantastic tea served by a turbanted guy in a 12-hours trip train from Cairo to Luxor and watch the monuments also at night as lit by spotlights. I did a 2-weeks trip 2 decades ago. When visiting Cairo Museum go to see Tutankamon area first, then take the rest of the day visiting the rest! Eat those wonferful breads served with ... I don't remember if it was lamb or something else with some green stuff, delicious.
Xlab
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12/15/2012 07:58 PM
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hf
Scuba7
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01/26/2013 10:10 PM
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Do people normally book internal flights upon arrival in South America, or online beforehand?

Heard local travel agents might be the best bet.
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01/26/2013 10:16 PM
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come visit the huge ass underground bunker george bush jr is building here
Scuba7
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01/27/2013 08:12 AM
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Best place for Ayahuasca?

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