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Don't ban guns. Ban psychotropic drugs.

 
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Seriously? So people going insane has NEVER been caused by the social environment, society?

Look at the deeper truth: how the hell do so many modern teenagers end up being prescribed this shit anyways?

Our society is driving us INSANE!
 Quoting: pi 20063747


It starts off in elementary school with substances like ritalin & adderal.

Adults have accepted the prescription pill 'quick fix' ideology so they usually have no qualms about allowing their children to ingest pills that affects their mood & brain chemistry.

Yes, our society is ill and prescription pills are not only part of the problem but also a symptom of our society being fucked up.

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You guys retards..?


Ban guns..drugs rule..you faggots

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It's time for something new


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this whole thing left me feelings of communism
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You guys retards..?


Ban guns..drugs rule..you faggots

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Ban psychotropic drugs that are made in a factory.

You recognize the distinction between natural substances and chemically synthesized ones, right?

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They numb the crazy angry person with prescriptions and call him cured!

Then one day he snaps and is now a 100% cured numb crazy angry person!
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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Sort of begs the question: if these kids were given opioid drugs for depression/anxiety/paranoia, as America did until ~1950, could the idea of "antidepressants inspiring shootings" idea even exist?

I think not. Even hard-core heroin addicts don't do anything close to this awful (school shootings); they don't want to try to "go down in history", they just want the next dose.

And it's not like opioid addiction actually takes a toll on the brain/body, unlike antidepressants/antipsychotics which are neurotoxic and carry a wide array of side effects.
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Ill wager a hundred bucks this sick Fuk was on psychotropics just like every last mass murdering gunmen in the last decade and a half.
Any takers?
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Ill wager $1000, 90% of the crazy dumbfucks here are on the same shit. You ever see the dumb shit posted here.? Doesn't come from sane minds. We walk amongst psychos on a regular basis here.
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Seriously? So people going insane has NEVER been caused by the social environment, society?

Look at the deeper truth: how the hell do so many modern teenagers end up being prescribed this shit anyways?

Our society is driving us INSANE!
 Quoting: pi 20063747


It starts off in elementary school with substances like ritalin & adderal.

Adults have accepted the prescription pill 'quick fix' ideology so they usually have no qualms about allowing their children to ingest pills that affects their mood & brain chemistry.

Yes, our society is ill and prescription pills are not only part of the problem but also a symptom of our society being fucked up.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


No the problem is when they are misprescribed. There is a good degree of research and info on that subject, and some kids (and rats, fish, monkeys, what have you) are actually helped by stimulants.

ADD is caused by dysfunctioning dopaminergic neuron systems. I am of the opinion that ADD and especially ADHD are over diagnosed, but there are some people for whom stimulants aid brain development.

What we need is better diagnoses.
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Here's my opinion.

IF you ban guns then dangerous people will still get their hands on them rendering the rest of us even more defenseless.

Crack is illegal but people still get that... Alcohol is illegal for minors and they still get their hand on some somehow...Speeding is illegal and we all do that. How could ANYONE think banning guns would keep them out of the hands of the people who shouldn't have them?! Personally it's going to make them want one even more: A. because you've told them they cannot have it and B. because they don't have to worry about a random citizen having a lawfully concealed weapon.

They do not pull their own trigger...a HUMAN has to. Leave the gun laws alone and take a look at the HUMANS behind these incidents. Something is seriously wrong with these people and we need to fix that!! I really wish mental illness was treated more seriously instead of just throwing some drugs at it to make it go away. Drugs MASK the issue they don't actually cure the mental illness. I know sometimes people actually NEED these medications....but no one tries to fix the problem causing them to need them. I think there is something seriously wrong if we live in a society when I have to worry about getting shot by someone who forgot to take their pill for 2 days.

If our world today is full of people who need to take medication just to be able to mentally cope with life then something is seriously wrong!
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I agree just think what will happen if tshtf and no more pills it will be nuts and if there's gun control no protection bad bad bad
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Seriously? So people going insane has NEVER been caused by the social environment, society?

Look at the deeper truth: how the hell do so many modern teenagers end up being prescribed this shit anyways?

Our society is driving us INSANE!
 Quoting: pi 20063747


It starts off in elementary school with substances like ritalin & adderal.

Adults have accepted the prescription pill 'quick fix' ideology so they usually have no qualms about allowing their children to ingest pills that affects their mood & brain chemistry.

Yes, our society is ill and prescription pills are not only part of the problem but also a symptom of our society being fucked up.
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Anhedonic I can't agree with you more! You are spot on!!
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Ill wager a hundred bucks this sick Fuk was on psychotropics just like every last mass murdering gunmen in the last decade and a half.
Any takers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


WTF you wanna do ?? You want the lamestream media to go out of business ?? If you go after Big Pharma Bad Karma and its shrink partners in crime, then the television ratings will TANK. The SHOW...must go on ! GET IT ?????????
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If history has taught us anything... banning anything only makes the issue worse.

Why is everyone such a bunch of goddamn pussies these days?
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Seriously? So people going insane has NEVER been caused by the social environment, society?

Look at the deeper truth: how the hell do so many modern teenagers end up being prescribed this shit anyways?

Our society is driving us INSANE!
 Quoting: pi 20063747


It starts off in elementary school with substances like ritalin & adderal.

Adults have accepted the prescription pill 'quick fix' ideology so they usually have no qualms about allowing their children to ingest pills that affects their mood & brain chemistry.

Yes, our society is ill and prescription pills are not only part of the problem but also a symptom of our society being fucked up.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


No the problem is when they are misprescribed. There is a good degree of research and info on that subject, and some kids (and rats, fish, monkeys, what have you) are actually helped by stimulants.

ADD is caused by dysfunctioning dopaminergic neuron systems. I am of the opinion that ADD and especially ADHD are over diagnosed, but there are some people for whom stimulants aid brain development.

What we need is better diagnoses.
 Quoting: pi 20063747


In the early 2000's I had read that North America was responsible for consuming 90% of the world's ritalin supply.

I agree with you about miss-diagnosis but the overlying problem is that our society has become conditioned to look for 'quick fixes' in the form of pills. Pills for depression, pills for anxiety, pills for erectile dysfunction, pills for insomnia, pills for restless legs, pills for lack of energy, etc etc... The list goes on and on. More often than not the pills are designed to treat symptoms and not the root causes of the 'problems'. For instance pills don't cure depression, they mask the symptoms of depression while failing to address the root cause of that depression to begin with.

Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 12/14/2012 08:17 PM

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So did he do this cause he was on pills or off of them ? I'm so confused.
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So did he do this cause he was on pills or off of them ? I'm so confused.
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Right now it's just speculation, we'll find out from the coroner's report after the autopsy of the shooter.

Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 12/14/2012 08:17 PM

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They will protect big pharma before they protect the American people.
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Ill wager a hundred bucks this sick Fuk was on psychotropics just like every last mass murdering gunmen in the last decade and a half.
Any takers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Agreed.

ohyeah
I'll throw in a $20.

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Seriously? So people going insane has NEVER been caused by the social environment, society?

Look at the deeper truth: how the hell do so many modern teenagers end up being prescribed this shit anyways?

Our society is driving us INSANE!
 Quoting: pi 20063747


It starts off in elementary school with substances like ritalin & adderal.

Adults have accepted the prescription pill 'quick fix' ideology so they usually have no qualms about allowing their children to ingest pills that affects their mood & brain chemistry.

Yes, our society is ill and prescription pills are not only part of the problem but also a symptom of our society being fucked up.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


No the problem is when they are misprescribed. There is a good degree of research and info on that subject, and some kids (and rats, fish, monkeys, what have you) are actually helped by stimulants.

ADD is caused by dysfunctioning dopaminergic neuron systems. I am of the opinion that ADD and especially ADHD are over diagnosed, but there are some people for whom stimulants aid brain development.

What we need is better diagnoses.
 Quoting: pi 20063747


In the early 2000's I had read that North American was responsible for consuming 90% of the world's ritalin supply.

I agree with you about miss-diagnosis but the overlying problem is that our society has become conditioned to look for 'quick fixes' in the form of pills. Pills for depression, pills for anxiety, pills for erectile dysfunction, pills for insomnia, pills for restless legs, pills for lack of energy, etc etc... The list goes on and on. More often than not the pills are designed to treat symptoms and not the root causes of the 'problems' to begin with. For instance pills don't cure depression, they mask the symptoms of depression while failing to address the root cause of that depression to begin with.
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You hit the nail on the head.
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Agreed that they have become known as a "quick fix" and that this is a questionable habit.

However the fact remains that people shouldn't have to suffer if we know a way around it. Depression, anxiety, and paranoia only hurt our society and especially the individual saddled with the problem.

If drugs can relieve meaningless suffering then they should be employed unless we know of a better way. Clearly as a society we haven't got that far.

Mental disorders are swept under the rug, nobody attempts to understand them, even the victims, if they are successfully conditioned into psychiatry.
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You hit the nail on the head.
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Hey L.J.

hi

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they are going to push for gun control more than ever. Yet there are cases where people need guns to defend themselves. Like the man who had his house broken into and was tied up. His wife and two daughters were tortured, raped and murdered. I bet he wished he had a gun. the guy who was kidnapped along with his girlfriend and taken to a house where they were horribly raped and murdered. They cut his penis off. If they had a gun, they might have had a chance. Yet you'll never hear the other side of the argument on politically correct media.
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And by the way not THAT many kids are given ritalin. Ritalin is still the standard in the US: analogous chemicals are marketed in other countries.

The USA consumes more antidepressants than any other country as well: the difference is that prescribing stimulants for severe ADD has decades of scientific backing.
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"No one is dying from psychedelics. All our thoughts on psychedelics are based
on BS propaganda that you're going to go crazy. You're not going to go crazy,
you're going to go fu**ing sane!"

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C'mon people it wasnt video games or drugs. It was that evil rock music!!!!! FFS stfu
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Seriously? So people going insane has NEVER been caused by the social environment, society?

Look at the deeper truth: how the hell do so many modern teenagers end up being prescribed this shit anyways?

Our society is driving us INSANE!
 Quoting: pi 20063747


It starts off in elementary school with substances like ritalin & adderal.

Adults have accepted the prescription pill 'quick fix' ideology so they usually have no qualms about allowing their children to ingest pills that affects their mood & brain chemistry.

Yes, our society is ill and prescription pills are not only part of the problem but also a symptom of our society being fucked up.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


No the problem is when they are misprescribed. There is a good degree of research and info on that subject, and some kids (and rats, fish, monkeys, what have you) are actually helped by stimulants.

ADD is caused by dysfunctioning dopaminergic neuron systems. I am of the opinion that ADD and especially ADHD are over diagnosed, but there are some people for whom stimulants aid brain development.

What we need is better diagnoses.
 Quoting: pi 20063747


In the early 2000's I had read that North American was responsible for consuming 90% of the world's ritalin supply.

I agree with you about miss-diagnosis but the overlying problem is that our society has become conditioned to look for 'quick fixes' in the form of pills. Pills for depression, pills for anxiety, pills for erectile dysfunction, pills for insomnia, pills for restless legs, pills for lack of energy, etc etc... The list goes on and on. More often than not the pills are designed to treat symptoms and not the root causes of the 'problems' to begin with. For instance pills don't cure depression, they mask the symptoms of depression while failing to address the root cause of that depression to begin with.
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Spot on!!
Let me let you in on a little secrete of mine, as far as god goes I don't believe in your kind- I think we all god just gotter look deeper inside, that's probably what your bible means by you seek and you find.
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This goes deeper than just the use of psych drugs. It has ramped up now to narcosynthesis or drugged hypnosis and then adding a posthypnotic suggestion based on what the kid told a psych in confidence, like he hates his mother cause she loves her students more than me. Plug in the suggestion and then give him the stimulus word to kick in the hate and the kill signal. This is the stuff you saw on manchurian candidate. Mind control through the use of drugs. It is as old as history itself. Suicide bombers were drugged and given the posthypnotic suggestion to fly your plane into the American ships for your country. Hashish was used to accomplish this.
Suicide bombers in Iraq and other middles eastern countries use the drugs to get their people to blow themselves up for Mohammed.
This tragedy and the one in the mall in oregon are the same but 3000 miles apart. There is a sinister program at work to
create these killers. Sometimes they kill themselves sometimes they dont. The guy who shot Gabby Giffords didnt. The posthypnotic suggestions are such that the person hypnotised doesnt remember it was given to him so he can't say he was hypnotised and blame it on someone else. This is the start of getting our guns. It started for real with Columbine and the kid in Oregon carried out their original plan, shooting at a mall, not the school.

Mark my word, this is a false flag in order to get our guns.
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Yeah it's sad that people need SSRI's that fukk up your serotonin receptors while psychedelics like Iboga/Ayahuasca are PROVEN to increase the density of serotonin receptors, no drugs does that.

So if you take too much ecstasy/MDMA and you burn out your serotonin receptor sites, you take Ayahuasca and they grow back and you're no longer depressed.

Also psilocybin cure depression for up to 1 entire year by a similar mechanism. Also weed grows hippocampal neurons but again it's illegal lol, what a crazy inverted world.
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It's time for something new


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i wish that guy stopped chewing and crunching on something with with his mouth open while talking...
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Drugs prescribed by what? A filty degenerate jew psychologist to cure a mental illness caused by 2 decades watching filthy degenerate jew TV.

You don't need to ban guns or drugs. You need to get rid of the jew.

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