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Don't ban guns. Ban psychotropic drugs.

 
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I'm sure Connecticut has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country.
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Ban everything, of course everyone will be safe then. Damn morons.
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Ill wager a hundred bucks this sick Fuk was on psychotropics just like every last mass murdering gunmen in the last decade and a half.
Any takers?
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And YOU are absolutely, on the right track... Enough to assume you're 100% correct if you had enough 'typing space'... lol. -- Glad to know there are people willing to talk about the "core" problem...

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I believe this to be true as well. Either the meds were wrong, side effects were severe, or he decided to stop taking them. The mind is a complicated thing.
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Re: Don't ban guns. Ban psychotropic drugs.
Americans, you need to ban guns now. You say "guns don't kill people, people kill people" but guns are a dangerous tool when in the wrong hands. You take away guns, you take away that power that insane murderers have. Every man and his dog own a firearm in the US and is it really necessary?
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You Aussies let your government take away YOUR guns and crime has gone UP since you turned the guns over to be destroyed.

<<< Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. >>> [link to www.ncpa.org]

All since the gun ban.

So keep your opinions to yourself, thank you very much, we don't need your failed philosophy.
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We don't have gun massacres here in Australia.
Crime like murder is actually very low here. Not that you would know though. Ignorance breeds ignorance.
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Oh ok so your sister/wife is just being raped at gun pointanother do
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I will not give up the firearms before ww3 is over
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Wait till the facts come out and we can learn of the shooters motivations.
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The question always is which came first, the mental illness or the drugs? How can it be figured out which caused the breakdown? That's why psychotropic drugs are still being peddled by doctors. There is no way of really knowing is there?
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12/14/2012 10:17 PM
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This event just ended the gun control debate.
Just wait a week or two and they will tell us where to turn in any weapons we have.
Then the people they suspect still have them, warrants will be issued and houses searched.
Today ended the last obstacle in disarming the American public.
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Ill wager a hundred bucks this sick Fuk was on psychotropics just like every last mass murdering gunmen in the last decade and a half.
Any takers?
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Drudge headline: "MEDS? Shooter suffered from 'personality disorder' ..."
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12/14/2012 10:22 PM
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Just look at the stars.....the old tactics ain't working......this thread is maxed out approved...lolsign
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Make rounds that inject the attacker with said drugs. I can see the suicide rate climbing.
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12/14/2012 10:37 PM
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Ban everything, of course everyone will be safe then. Damn morons.
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I think it's time to hold people accountable for their own actions like this.
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Excellent post OP i thought of that also when i first heard of the news.
I'l tell you my story with Prozac when i was about 19 or 20 years old I was having some problems with drugs and just made some wrong choices in life at that point. My parents took me see a psychiatrist. After speaking with me for about 30 minutes he prescribe Prozac. I started taking it after about a month maybe two I noticed wild mood swings. I went from feeling absolutely great one day to horrible depression the next. It was one of these days that I felt absolutely down and out I was arguing with my girlfriend at the time for a while I got this thought in my head that i wanted to end it all. Before that i never thought about killing my self even when things were absolutely horrible. I ran into the kitchen grabbed a big butcher knife and slice my left hand. I didnt just cut the veins i cut the artery and all my tendons. So there you go I dont know if i put all the blame on prozac I mean my life wasn't exactly great at the time but I think it had something to do with that.

Now instead of blaming guns for this I think we should put some blame on pharmaceutical companies and their drug dealers...doctors. They start pumping children with these chemicals at a very early age a lot of the times its a cocktail of drugs. So when you are taking it for 5 10 15 years and then you snap who's to blame for that? They are extremely hard to stop using and there is no detox for it you just have to man up and suffer the withdrawals.
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Look at it this way, everyone should carry one, every time a nutcase came out shooting he would be dead before he could do any kind of massacre.
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Ban everything, of course everyone will be safe then. Damn morons.
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I think it's time to hold people accountable for their own actions like this.
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Like this shooting* Sorry, should clarify that.
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Excellent post OP i thought of that also when i first heard of the news.
I'l tell you my story with Prozac when i was about 19 or 20 years old I was having some problems with drugs and just made some wrong choices in life at that point. My parents took me see a psychiatrist. After speaking with me for about 30 minutes he prescribe Prozac. I started taking it after about a month maybe two I noticed wild mood swings. I went from feeling absolutely great one day to horrible depression the next. It was one of these days that I felt absolutely down and out I was arguing with my girlfriend at the time for a while I got this thought in my head that i wanted to end it all. Before that i never thought about killing my self even when things were absolutely horrible. I ran into the kitchen grabbed a big butcher knife and slice my left hand. I didnt just cut the veins i cut the artery and all my tendons. So there you go I dont know if i put all the blame on prozac I mean my life wasn't exactly great at the time but I think it had something to do with that.

Now instead of blaming guns for this I think we should put some blame on pharmaceutical companies and their drug dealers...doctors. They start pumping children with these chemicals at a very early age a lot of the times its a cocktail of drugs. So when you are taking it for 5 10 15 years and then you snap who's to blame for that? They are extremely hard to stop using and there is no detox for it you just have to man up and suffer the withdrawals.
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Wow. After the thread drooped to the second page I assumed lack of interest. Thanks for the pin.
I had a close friend die because of ritilin and prozac. Its a demonic portal IMO.
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Are you a scientologist by any chance? Yes its likely that mentally ill people would be on some sort of medication but does the person shoot up a place because they are mentally ill or because they were on medication? They don't just grab joe the plumber off the streets and start feeding him mental illness drugs....these people either enter treatment on their own or are referred their by family or the courts because they are MENTALLY ILL.

Why does everyone blame everything but the person?
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Family doctors will prescribe you prozac if you tell them your feeling a little down cause the dog died...

That's what doctors do...they push drugs, and if you look at the listed side effects, every one of them have suicidal and/or homicidal thoughts as a listed side effect!!!
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LOL, none of them have homicidal thoughts as side affects...where do you people come up with this bullshit....some scientolgists temple party?
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Americans, you need to ban guns now. You say "guns don't kill people, people kill people" but guns are a dangerous tool when in the wrong hands. You take away guns, you take away that power that insane murderers have. Every man and his dog own a firearm in the US and is it really necessary?
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Idiot slave.
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Ill wager a hundred bucks this sick Fuk was on psychotropics just like every last mass murdering gunmen in the last decade and a half.
Any takers?
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I've noticed they all took Luvox or had an aquaintance with Prozac. The quinolone antibiotics are notorious for shooters going postal hallucinating if dehydrated taking Cipro, the very antibiotic they were recommending for anthrax prevention during the anthrax scare rather than doxycycline which has no psychosis side effect and is $10 as opposed to the $150 for Cipro.
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I lost my best friend to Cipro...at age 27...

that stupd drug has killed thousands, left many others damaged, and they can't get a warning label on the damn thing

I hate that thing:

Surviving Cipro

[link to www.survivingcipro.com]

Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics such as Cipro and Levaquin Ruin Lives

[link to www.the-spearhead.com]
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A while back I was given an anti-depressant called Wellbutrin to help me quit smoking. Apparently, it made cigarettes taste like shit yadda yadda caused an aversion and whatever.

Anyway, I was working on my computer one day, during the time when I was taking this medication. The locking mechanism for the CPU was busted (didn't know at the time) and when I put the heavy heatsink back on I bent some pins on the CPU and busted it.

It wasn't a big deal, it sucked and was a $300 dollar mistake, but live and learn. But, I broke down and basically wanted to die because breaking that processor upset me that bad. Like death of a friend bad. It was that anti-depressant that caused that weird depression, and after that I stopped taking it. I've never suffered from depression, and have never had a depressive episode like that before or sense.

Moral of the story is they shouldn't prescribe anti-depressants to people under 21 because it can fuck with brain chemistry and make you wacky. Likewise with the rest of the shit they give children for behavioral issues/personality disorders. Everyone's brain works differently and such drugs should be among the last resorts instead of the first.
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Are you a scientologist by any chance? Yes its likely that mentally ill people would be on some sort of medication but does the person shoot up a place because they are mentally ill or because they were on medication? They don't just grab joe the plumber off the streets and start feeding him mental illness drugs....these people either enter treatment on their own or are referred their by family or the courts because they are MENTALLY ILL.

Why does everyone blame everything but the person?
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Family doctors will prescribe you prozac if you tell them your feeling a little down cause the dog died...

That's what doctors do...they push drugs, and if you look at the listed side effects, every one of them have suicidal and/or homicidal thoughts as a listed side effect!!!
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LOL, none of them have homicidal thoughts as side affects...where do you people come up with this bullshit....some scientolgists temple party?
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Who are you to say what drugs have what side effects? Soulless douchebag.
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Or he was just evil. Deserved it when he opened fire on himself and killed himself, though dont remember if intentional or not.
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Just read an article about the shootings, the pace in Conn. That it happened at hadn't had a recorded homicide in 10 years.
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sometimes I fart on cold windows and lick the condensation
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Americans, you need to ban guns now. You say "guns don't kill people, people kill people" but guns are a dangerous tool when in the wrong hands. You take away guns, you take away that power that insane murderers have. Every man and his dog own a firearm in the US and is it really necessary?
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Your never gonna get all the guns that are already out there. I want my guns in case I need them to defend myself and my children. You don't know what the future holds. It is my inalianable right to protect myself. Cops have guns, bad guys have guns so I have guns PERIOD. Nobody has the right to take them from me. They are mine. When will people stop thinking they have the right to control others? If you don't want a gun don't have one but if you try and take mine I will have to use it on you as it is an important tool in keeping my family safe.
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Hello, that was the first thing I thought of "this guy was either coming off of an anti-depressant or possibly was on adderall for ADHD." Otherwise, why flip out like that? Anger, yes, a fight with your parents, yeah, but shooting little kids? and he shot his mom right in the face, that's just crazy.

But people are blaming the gun; nobody and I mean NOBODY on the news programs has suggested that the shooter had a psychotropic event.
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But people are blaming the gun REALLY you are soo stupid. of course this guy who did this was a freak but what you people dont seem to understand is that if this loser had no access to guns then this would not have happened but because you americans love your dam guns so much this type of awful crap will always happens. I am sick of people dying because you refuse to accept the truth that the availibility of guns is the problem. Ya no kidding it was this psyco that did the shooting but if he had no gun then those precious children would be alive right now.
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Are you a scientologist by any chance? Yes its likely that mentally ill people would be on some sort of medication but does the person shoot up a place because they are mentally ill or because they were on medication? They don't just grab joe the plumber off the streets and start feeding him mental illness drugs....these people either enter treatment on their own or are referred their by family or the courts because they are MENTALLY ILL.

Why does everyone blame everything but the person?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24209131


Family doctors will prescribe you prozac if you tell them your feeling a little down cause the dog died...

That's what doctors do...they push drugs, and if you look at the listed side effects, every one of them have suicidal and/or homicidal thoughts as a listed side effect!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp



LOL, none of them have homicidal thoughts as side affects...where do you people come up with this bullshit....some scientolgists temple party?
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Who are you to say what drugs have what side effects? Soulless douchebag.
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I think i'm very qualified actually because I take Zoloft and its the best thing that ever happened to me. Life before and after is like night and day. I could care less if people have guns or not but taking away the opportunity I was given from other people would be a crime against humanity in itself!
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nobody ever mentions about scopolamine ( the most evil drug) and how it is used
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The dangerous pharmaceuticals messing people up is pretty well known, but nothing will ever be done about it. They make too much money from them, anything bad about them that is "officially proved in court" is simply payed off in fines, fines that amount to basically nothing compared to the profit they just made. Make loads of money, truth comes out, spend a few percent of the profit in fines "to make up for it". It's just a joke.

Very bad news about the dead kids. No idea if it's a deliberate situation to push the gun ban forward. It doesn't bother me either way (doesn't affect me, obviously!).

As for whether this would have happened if guns hadn't been available. If that person had been intent? Bombs, knives etc. If a person is truly intent on harm, no access to guns is irrelevant, isn't it? Bomb might have actually taken more people out.

World is turning to shit.
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Yes let's please take another step back into the cave.

Antidepressants are on the market despite lack of evidence showing effectiveness. They have been getting steadily less effective since the 50's and no less addictive.

What needs to happen is that the drugs that actually work, but for which there is no massive profit margin, need to be legalized and given proper study.
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