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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18236950  United States12/16/2012 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys do realize that if you actually engaged your government in an armed conflict, all they'd have to do to 'disarm' you is shut down the ammo supply, right? I mean, a few hardcore nutters here and there would have a bunker full of ammo, but for most of the average armed joes, once the government closes all the publicly available ammo avenues, it's 'click, click, click' time. And it's pretty hard to have black market purchasing power when your nation primarily deals in digital currency and you're off the grid. Quoting: CleverMoniker 19931300 So I guess that you are oblivious to the fact that people have been stockpiling ammo hardcore, for the last 4 years? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18236950 United States12/16/2012 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God who ever comes around to collect guns are going to hear this story way to often, we need to come up with a better one :O Collecting guns is going to be the worlds single most dangerous job. Especially after people start to see how other GOOD people are being treated. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18236950 United States12/16/2012 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18236950 United States12/16/2012 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and on top of that gun bans are stupid. Look in china they have people go crazy with knives and they kill just as many people as some of the guys who go postal here in the USA. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355497 nobody died in yesterdays knife attacks, just fyi I think that the overall point is lost on you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18236950 United States12/16/2012 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Little Miss Sunshine  User ID: 20324942 United States12/16/2012 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way-there are death threats against the NRA' pres right now on twitter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6568391 Big, Friggn whoop!! What? You think this is the first time he's been threatened wit his life or something??!! PULEEEASE!!! Some men ACTUALLY have a spine and DONT scare that easily!! If you dont stand for something you'll fall for ANYTHING!!! Most people are to the point where they say " F" it...if this where they want to take it, so be it. What a better way to die than standing up for our RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS!!! Thats just the mindset of most now. There are manyyyyy that see through their BullS*it and they are NOT just going to roll over and give up their firearms! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331  Indonesia12/16/2012 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | tell ya one thing, I wouldn't want to be the first one through the door. 00buck at close range will take your head off Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983 They will likely come at about 4AM in the morning, while you and your family are sleeping. If you keep a loaded shotgun ready for battle beside your bed, then you might be able to wake up and get a bead on your bedroom doorway before they make it through it. If they have done their homework, they know the general floorplan of your home already, and know where the master bedroom is located. Plus they already have GPS coordinates to your front door if you live out in the countryside. You'd really need to fortify your home and perimeter of your property if you wanted any lead time at all to wake up during an O'dark thirty raid against you and your family. Unless you post 24/7 guards, but who does that in your kinder, gentler nation? Any dogs you or your neighbors have will bark a warning anyway before they get snuffed with a silenced assault rifle; you know, the kind they don't want you to own. Except theirs have the option of operating in fully automatic mode, unlike any you may already own. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6568391  Bulgaria12/16/2012 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way-there are death threats against the NRA' pres right now on twitter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6568391 Big, Friggn whoop!! What? You think this is the first time he's been threatened wit his life or something??!! PULEEEASE!!! Some men ACTUALLY have a spine and DONT scare that easily!! If you dont stand for something you'll fall for ANYTHING!!! Most people are to the point where they say " F" it...if this where they want to take it, so be it. What a better way to die than standing up for our RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS!!! Thats just the mindset of most now. There are manyyyyy that see through their BullS*it and they are NOT just going to roll over and give up their firearms!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States12/16/2012 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guns? ohhhh. you mean those things i don't have anymore. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6568391 Bulgaria12/16/2012 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that THEY will confiscate all guns. I imagine they'll come up with impossible rules, psycho tests, etc. Unless they want a civil war wich will justify the purchase of a countless number of bullets by the Homeland Security.... Now all make sence, no?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30006462  United Kingdom12/16/2012 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't that what they want. Doesn't this mean one of those bullets stockpiled by FEMA will be going into the back of you blind folded head. If you are lucky they may even let you dig your own grave. Or they may keep you alive scavenging jewelry off the others. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6568391 Bulgaria12/16/2012 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6568391 Bulgaria12/16/2012 06:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't that what they want. Doesn't this mean one of those bullets stockpiled by FEMA will be going into the back of you blind folded head. If you are lucky they may even let you dig your own grave. Or they may keep you alive scavenging jewelry off the others. As you see I'm out of the country... Do you know how RETARDED all looks from outside?! I'm almost ashamed... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29870331 If after they search your property and find no guns, then they may let you off with a warning not to piss them off. But they know you have guns because you previously submitted to a Federal Background check, and they have your name and SSN in a national database of gun owners. Or, they may then confiscate your computer and cellphone to take back to the office for forensic analysis to try to discover what you did with your guns. Then they will investigate everyone you have exchanged phone calls, emails, or IM's with to see if either you sold them, and to whom, or stored them with someone else, or if you know any other gun owners. Then they will investigate, search and harass everyone you know, while telling them it's your fault that they are rifling through your friend's wife's underwear drawer. They'll hit your parents and other relative's homes, cars and their other property too. See how the game works? And if you piss them off, then the terror will not only continue, it'll just get worse and worse, once you make the 'probable gun owner' & 'potential dissident' list. You'll never see the end of the harassment, especially when the 'No Fly List', the official gov't black list, makes it's way into all of the public and private sectors as a universal black list. Want gov't entitlements? Oh look, you're on 'The List'. Sorry pal, nothing for you! Need medical insurance? Sorry, you're on 'The List'. Need a job? Sorry, you're on 'The List'. Need a loan, need a credit card, need to rent a car?... Sorry, you're on 'The List'. So, enjoy the slippery slope into tyranny, because that's the fast track your country is headed down. You do know you're scaring me right? Because most of what you've said is already happening to some extent. There's no need to be scared, just informed. To be forewarned is to be forearmed, or so they say. Make your plans now about how to deal with this tyranny before it happens to you and your family. There are ONLY 3 things that YOU can do when faced with a .gov out of control: 1. Change it. 2. Suck it up and accept it. 3. Leave it. Which shall you choose? (Hint: #1 is no longer an option) I'm surprised by your knowledge of the system. Great post AC. Unfortunately, I've heard stories about people in the USA that this has already happened to. However, they were innocent, and no charges were ever filed against them. Those were simply issues of official harassment. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 06:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will be slick about it, Require you to sell back your gun or goto prison. Allmost everyone will rather sell there guns then go to prison. When ya get pulled over you will be taken to jail. from there they will just go bust in your house and basicly rob you blind i bet. then prolly release you on probation where not only did you loose your guns but you now have to pay for your guns again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355 And getting pulled over will be easy. TPTB are now stationing special cameras around some cities and in patrol cars who's sole purpose is to read car license plates (several hundred per minute potentially) & run them against a national database of wanted people. And when they get a hit, the local law enforcement are notified & sent a pic of the car, with location, direction & speed. Soon the cops will find and pull over the targeted car. |
| AtomicTimcubus User ID: 29964678 United Kingdom12/16/2012 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | question to americans who don't want their guns taking from them. do any of you no of any statistics of how many americans with guns have ever used them in self defense? i hear all the time its for defense yet ive only heard of a couple of cases where guns have been used in self defence. i understand to some of you its about the principle of the 2nd amendment which is fine but the whole self defense argument doesn't seem to ever happen its just people saying IF I WAS THERE I WOULD OF SHOT HIM OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES which again doesn't hold much truth from what i can see unless your that scared of everything you carry a gun 24/7?? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6568391 Bulgaria12/16/2012 07:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | question to americans who don't want their guns taking from them. do any of you no of any statistics of how many americans with guns have ever used them in self defense? i hear all the time its for defense yet ive only heard of a couple of cases where guns have been used in self defence. i understand to some of you its about the principle of the 2nd amendment which is fine but the whole self defense argument doesn't seem to ever happen its just people saying IF I WAS THERE I WOULD OF SHOT HIM OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES which again doesn't hold much truth from what i can see unless your that scared of everything you carry a gun 24/7?? Quoting: AtomicTimcubus Americans (not the gov.) respect the Constitution and use their RIGHTS. What is so difficult for you to understand?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will be slick about it, Require you to sell back your gun or goto prison. Allmost everyone will rather sell there guns then go to prison. When ya get pulled over you will be taken to jail. from there they will just go bust in your house and basicly rob you blind i bet. then prolly release you on probation where not only did you loose your guns but you now have to pay for your guns again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355 Does THAT sound like a world that YOU want to live in? No, and some of us have taken action already, and moved away from the tyranny of our beloved fatherlands. Realistically, what else can you do? Romantic notions tend to end when you are staring into the muzzles of several assault rifles. Good luck with that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys do realize that if you actually engaged your government in an armed conflict, all they'd have to do to 'disarm' you is shut down the ammo supply, right? I mean, a few hardcore nutters here and there would have a bunker full of ammo, but for most of the average armed joes, once the government closes all the publicly available ammo avenues, it's 'click, click, click' time. And it's pretty hard to have black market purchasing power when your nation primarily deals in digital currency and you're off the grid. Quoting: CleverMoniker 19931300 No. Stock up on bullets and beans, buckshot and beer. I guess you didn't get the memo to the non hard core. But they have more ammo than you do, and they have the capacity to make unlimited more, whereas you don't. In a war of attrition, you lose. They'll turn off the ammo & reloading supply, and wait until most people run out of bullets. A siege of armaments & supplies, if you will. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6568391 Bulgaria12/16/2012 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will be slick about it, Require you to sell back your gun or goto prison. Allmost everyone will rather sell there guns then go to prison. When ya get pulled over you will be taken to jail. from there they will just go bust in your house and basicly rob you blind i bet. then prolly release you on probation where not only did you loose your guns but you now have to pay for your guns again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355 Does THAT sound like a world that YOU want to live in? No, and some of us have taken action already, and moved away from the tyranny of our beloved fatherlands. Realistically, what else can you do? Romantic notions tend to end when you are staring into the muzzles of several assault rifles. Good luck with that. I'm thinking about the same... How long are you in Mongolia or you are using proxy? ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and on top of that gun bans are stupid. Look in china they have people go crazy with knives and they kill just as many people as some of the guys who go postal here in the USA. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355497 nobody died in yesterdays knife attacks, just fyi Fortunately, if what you say is true. But it surely could have gone a lot worse. In many countries, guns, ammo, swords, daggers, BB guns, paintball guns, pepper spray & stun guns, etc. are ALL illegal now. Will your country be next? Where do YOU draw the line against this tyranny? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | self destruct button wired to 1000 pipe bombs planted strategically around my property... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355497 nah just kidding. I would just tell them I don't own a gun and they should GTFO. And that they are nazi cuntrags and they should go fuck themselves in the face with powertools. If after they search your property and find no guns, then they may let you off with a warning not to piss them off. But they know you have guns because you previously submitted to a Federal Background check, and they have your name and SSN in a national database of gun owners. Or, they may then confiscate your computer and cellphone to take back to the office for forensic analysis to try to discover what you did with your guns. Then they will investigate everyone you have exchanged phone calls, emails, or IM's with to see if either you sold them, and to whom, or stored them with someone else, or if you know any other gun owners. Then they will investigate, search and harass everyone you know, while telling them it's your fault that they are rifling through your friend's wife's underwear drawer. They'll hit your parents and other relative's homes, cars and their other property too. See how the game works? And if you piss them off, then the terror will not only continue, it'll just get worse and worse, once you make the 'probable gun owner' & 'potential dissident' list. You'll never see the end of the harassment, especially when the 'No Fly List', the official gov't black list, makes it's way into all of the public and private sectors as a universal black list. Want gov't entitlements? Oh look, you're on 'The List'. Sorry pal, nothing for you! Need medical insurance? Sorry, you're on 'The List'. Need a job? Sorry, you're on 'The List'. Need a loan, need a credit card, need to rent a car?... Sorry, you're on 'The List'. So, enjoy the slippery slope into tyranny, because that's the fast track your country is headed down. Gee whizzz... Living in a world like THAT, wouldn't you rather just fight? LOL! If you died, it would be more of a blessing than anything else. You do live in a world like that. The harassment part of that tale was real, and happened (and is happening) in your country already. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | self destruct button wired to 1000 pipe bombs planted strategically around my property... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355497 nah just kidding. I would just tell them I don't own a gun and they should GTFO. And that they are nazi cuntrags and they should go fuck themselves in the face with powertools. If after they search your property and find no guns, then they may let you off with a warning not to piss them off. But they know you have guns because you previously submitted to a Federal Background check, and they have your name and SSN in a national database of gun owners. Or, they may then confiscate your computer and cellphone to take back to the office for forensic analysis to try to discover what you did with your guns. Then they will investigate everyone you have exchanged phone calls, emails, or IM's with to see if either you sold them, and to whom, or stored them with someone else, or if you know any other gun owners. Then they will investigate, search and harass everyone you know, while telling them it's your fault that they are rifling through your friend's wife's underwear drawer. They'll hit your parents and other relative's homes, cars and their other property too. See how the game works? And if you piss them off, then the terror will not only continue, it'll just get worse and worse, once you make the 'probable gun owner' & 'potential dissident' list. You'll never see the end of the harassment, especially when the 'No Fly List', the official gov't black list, makes it's way into all of the public and private sectors as a universal black list. Want gov't entitlements? Oh look, you're on 'The List'. Sorry pal, nothing for you! Need medical insurance? Sorry, you're on 'The List'. Need a job? Sorry, you're on 'The List'. Need a loan, need a credit card, need to rent a car?... Sorry, you're on 'The List'. So, enjoy the slippery slope into tyranny, because that's the fast track your country is headed down. Congratulations... You just described the Mark of the Beast, and what life will be like under it. Yes, but let's discuss one problem at a time, LOL. No need to scare everyone into doomed sheeple-dom. But yes, the MoB will be the ultimate evolution of the universal black list. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys do realize that if you actually engaged your government in an armed conflict, all they'd have to do to 'disarm' you is shut down the ammo supply, right? I mean, a few hardcore nutters here and there would have a bunker full of ammo, but for most of the average armed joes, once the government closes all the publicly available ammo avenues, it's 'click, click, click' time. And it's pretty hard to have black market purchasing power when your nation primarily deals in digital currency and you're off the grid. Quoting: CleverMoniker 19931300 There's enough of a cash society left yet in the USSA for the black market to fulfill the people's needs at the moment. So if a grand Prohibition in the USA occurs vs. ammunition, I guess the Rum-Runners of tomorrow will be hauling bullets instead of liquor. I wonder then where they would have to drive to get their ammo from, Mr. Canada? That is why they are pushing for a cashless society. It's OK though. A cashless society doesn't scare me, because there is already a decentralized non-gov. cashless solution if all cash were to be banned. It's called Bitcoin. Need to transact for your groceries outside of the Matrix, but can't realistically use gold & silver or barter like they're now doing in Greece? Then learn to use Bitcoin, and leave the System behind. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29870331 Indonesia12/16/2012 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to be honest. I have guns and love to shoot them. It's a lot of fun. But this one really got to me. I just went to my kids elementary school today to make gingerbread houses. To imagine someone walking in and executing kids is almost beyond comprehension. Quoting: RF 1287633 to be lumped into a group (gun owners) with such a lunatic piece of worthless shit makes me angry. But it happens and it happens a lot. My co workers know I shoot for fun and make comments like I'm a gun loving lunatic. In a way they associate me with him. this alone makes me rethink my love of guns. I am not some asshole murderer just waiting to snap, and I don't want to be thought of as one. But this piece of shit polarizes all gun owners as potential kid killers.. I don't want to be polarized but I know it is happening. I've had my share of experiences with guns, I've been on the wrong side of a barrel before, its not pleasant, and yes this is a miserable terrible tragedy, but if a single teacher would have had a firearm, this would not have happened. Since when did owning or using a gun make you a child killer? Last I checked, owning a gun was your right, and almost a duty. It's your duty as an American citizen to stand up to tyranny in government. You hand over your guns willingly, as far as my patriotic eyes are concerned you've committed treason. If you fight to ban guns, you're actively committing treason. Get the fuck out of the land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE. You don't deserve to live on this land, paid for with the blood of the fallen heroes who gave us our liberty. You all should be ashamed of yourselves, blaming objects when it's the people, the culture, and the society you built for future generations. When the Reds, whomever they happen to be, come invading, my door will be locked for those who are unarmed. You don't deserve my protection or my help, because when we beat them back, all the scum who wanted to disarm us, the scum who gave us bubble money, and the scum who set up, did the paperwork, and OK'd this shooting will be long dead, leaving the United States to the true Freedom Fighters. We won't repair you're version of the country, we're going to rebuild ours, the one you murdered. Good riddance. Usually I would ignore this type of post but I feel the need to let you know you aren't going to win. If you live by the sword you will die by it. Give your life to the Lord and you will never die. Yes war is coming, yes population reduction is coming and 90% of everyone is going to be dead. If you seek to save your life you will lose it for eternity but if you lay it down like Jesus did, and try your hardest to live like he did, you will gain life. Don't be scared, let the brainwashing and bs patriotism go, because its only used to control you. Let them take the guns, and even your life, who cares? Your life here on earth is a test and I want you to pass, just as I want everyone to pass. Don't be afraid of anyone but God because he has the ability to save your eternal life or let you die to never live again. This is it, don't make the wrong choice. I'm glad the Founders listened to the preachers of their day, and not someone spouting your bullshit. The New Testament/New Covenant of the bible is very pacifistic, but the USA Founders eventually were not. I believe that everyone should have a natural right to freedom, but I haven't read anywhere in the Bible where Yeshua tells people to pick up a sword to fight for their freedoms. To claim your freedom by right of arms is certainly a noble and worthwhile endeavor, but I'm not sure you can honestly say the bible made you do it. My patriotism lies with my home. And my home is in heaven. Therefore my patriotism lies with my God in heaven. Everything else is simply a temporary yurt erected along the road that is life. |
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