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The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?

 
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The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
Following the shooting today in the United states, there have been reports of the shooter being very accurate. This reminds me of the my home States own mass shooting, the Port Arthur shooting some 20 years ago. In that case the mentally disabled shooter took out around 16 people in a cafe without missing a shot (all head shots), while shooting from the hip. The "reported" shooter's IQ was around 60 to 70. Are most mass murderers excellent shots or whats going on?
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12/14/2012 11:21 PM
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Panic man. Have ya ever been shot at? It sucks you can't think at first let alone react and run. Plus Adrenaline causes the perception of time to slow down, and someone about to kill people have plenty of that running through their veins.
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crazy guys are terrible at everything including shooting, though its easy to get them to show up all dressed to kill. a trained marksmen is alway the "second shooter" who blends in with law enforcement once they arrive.
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Re: The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
Following the shooting today in the United states, there have been reports of the shooter being very accurate. This reminds me of the my home States own mass shooting, the Port Arthur shooting some 20 years ago. In that case the mentally disabled shooter took out around 16 people in a cafe without missing a shot (all head shots), while shooting from the hip. The "reported" shooter's IQ was around 60 to 70. Are most mass murderers excellent shots or whats going on?
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From the hip? Jesus. It's a strange world...

Interesting thread.
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In this case, I think its because most of the victims were kids.

So young, they could hardly stand a single gunshot, no matter where it hit.

With these highschool/college shootings, or in Aurora, there were older victims, perhaps they could take the pain of a single shot and last out til the hospital.

Kids have fragile bodies.

This man is a coward.
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That should be the soldier level then.
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The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
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That is an acute, as well as, important observation.

Glad you're paying attention.
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Yeah this 20 year old wimpy autistic kid has the physical and mental abilities of a trained hit man or a government agent, killing 26 people in a matter of minutes takes training, doesn't matter if they're kids or not
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Basically these guys are living their dream.

Success coaches all recognize the importance of mentally rehearsing thru vivid detailed visualizations.

Derren Brown demonstrated how a low-average specimen can be trained to an even much higher level.

And you must be dreaming if you think chip implants or such BS explain it.
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12/15/2012 04:00 AM
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What was the kill to wounded ration in the latest shooting?

Martin Bryant (or whoever) shot at 66%.

Most guys are lucky to shoot at 15-20%.
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Re: The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
Following the shooting today in the United states, there have been reports of the shooter being very accurate. This reminds me of the my home States own mass shooting, the Port Arthur shooting some 20 years ago. In that case the mentally disabled shooter took out around 16 people in a cafe without missing a shot (all head shots), while shooting from the hip. The "reported" shooter's IQ was around 60 to 70. Are most mass murderers excellent shots or whats going on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27121575


From the hip? Jesus. It's a strange world...

Interesting thread.
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theres heaps of threads here about it
search "port arthur or martin bryant"
poor guy still slept with his teddy.
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12/15/2012 04:09 AM
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Thread: Aurora & Port Arthur similarities - Things just don't add up
heres one thread comparing aurora and port arthur and also another shooting in NZ is mentioned.
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He was a gamer.
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theres heaps of threads here about it
search "port arthur or martin bryant"
poor guy still slept with his teddy.
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I made a facebook page about it.

[link to www.facebook.com]
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12/15/2012 04:24 AM
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Re: The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
theres heaps of threads here about it
search "port arthur or martin bryant"
poor guy still slept with his teddy.
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I made a facebook page about it.

[link to www.facebook.com]
 Quoting: Jackie Howe 29848411


thanks-i dont do FB though, ill check it out anyway.
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I know witnesses to Martin Bryants killing spree, so any conspiracy shit you come up with is just a sick justification for your gun fetish.
You just have to accept that it was just a sick fuck with lots of guns who did this. And there is plenty of sick fucks with guns on GLP, who are seriously deluded and dangerously mentally ill.
You reap what you sow, but you must be the kind of emotional vaccuum that perpetuates this kind of thing, if you have no compassion for the lives of 20 children and their families.
You are in complete denial as to the root cause of this and you rush to blame a government conspiracy. If you believe that sort of shit then you sure as hell should not be allowed near any weapons more dangerous than a desert spoon.
All the world needs is more loonies with guns who think they have a constitutional right to deny young kids the right to a life.
Not quite extinct!!!!!!!!
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I know witnesses to Martin Bryants killing spree, so any conspiracy shit you come up with is just a sick justification for your gun fetish.
You just have to accept that it was just a sick fuck with lots of guns who did this. And there is plenty of sick fucks with guns on GLP, who are seriously deluded and dangerously mentally ill.
You reap what you sow, but you must be the kind of emotional vaccuum that perpetuates this kind of thing, if you have no compassion for the lives of 20 children and their families.
You are in complete denial as to the root cause of this and you rush to blame a government conspiracy. If you believe that sort of shit then you sure as hell should not be allowed near any weapons more dangerous than a desert spoon.
All the world needs is more loonies with guns who think they have a constitutional right to deny young kids the right to a life.
 Quoting: Thylacine


no one has said what happened to the victims isnt bad.
whats being implied is Bryant wasnt the killer and if you do your research, youll find enough to support this- more than enough.

who are you again mr Newbie poster?
looks like your new to the site if you dont have the eyse to look further than hearing what other people tell you.
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Re: The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
I know witnesses to Martin Bryants killing spree,
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Anyone witness to something as traumatic as that would not be reliable unless, they were a psychopath.

The killer entered the Cafe, ordered a meal/drink, and sat outside before the shooting started. Even though the mess was left on the table (Solo can), none of Bryant's DNA was recovered from the scene.

In less than thirty minutes at six separate crime scenes, 35 people were shot dead, another 21 wounded, and two cars stopped with a total of only 64 bullets. A moving Daihatsu 4WD driven by Linda White was crippled by a "Beirut Triple", normally reserved for dead-blocking Islamic terrorists driving primed car bombs around the Lebanon.
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Re: The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
I know witnesses to Martin Bryants killing spree,
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Anyone witness to something as traumatic as that would not be reliable unless, they were a psychopath.

The killer entered the Cafe, ordered a meal/drink, and sat outside before the shooting started. Even though the mess was left on the table (Solo can), none of Bryant's DNA was recovered from the scene.

In less than thirty minutes at six separate crime scenes, 35 people were shot dead, another 21 wounded, and two cars stopped with a total of only 64 bullets. A moving Daihatsu 4WD driven by Linda White was crippled by a "Beirut Triple", normally reserved for dead-blocking Islamic terrorists driving primed car bombs around the Lebanon.
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not to mention he (the killer)left one bullet in the chamber to guard his exit-something a professional hitman and trained military often forget to do under pressure.

Nice FB page too btw.
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Bryant (IQ 66) managed a kill ratio of 62%. The recent "Batman shooting" was allegedly carried out by a guy with and IQ of 165, and in a more confined space, only managed a kill ratio of 17%.

A few years ago a trained Israeli soldier went beserk in Hebron and fired a complete thirty-shot magazine of ammunition from an identical Colt AR15 into a crowd of Palestinians at the same range. His thirty high velocity bullets injured nine and killed no-one at all.

"There is no empirical evidence to link Bryant to the cafe". Tasmanian Police forensic gun inspector, Gerard Dutton, on the Port Arthur massacre.
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Nice FB page too btw.
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Thanks.

Been up for about 5 months and only 3 likes.

:( for Aussies.
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The shooter at Port Arthur was a pro. Bryant was a patsy. Another PSYOP.
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Nice FB page too btw.
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Thanks.

Been up for about 5 months and only 3 likes.

:( for Aussies.
 Quoting: Jackie Howe 29848411


man, sorry to hear that.I guess some more'awake types" may not be into FB like me, and as youd know sometimes Oz is kind of apathetic andsheep
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Re: The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
The shooter at Port Arthur was a pro. Bryant was a patsy. Another PSYOP.
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This guy.

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There dads always got high paying jobs too. Wonder what those families are involved with exactly. Wonder if they came over after WW2?? WINK WINK.
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As well as witnesses, I also had met a few of the guides who died. I was also working at Risdon Prison when it happened so I know a lot about Martin Bryant that was never published.
As far as a newbie poster goes. I've been here since the start of GLP, and I always debunk the Martin Bryant conspiracy fuck wits, as I personally know how wrong they are. And that Joe Vialls crap was just gun freak brain farts.
You don't have to be an accurate shooter when you walk up to them and shoot a point blank range. Just like 20 kids got killed today.
No conspiracy, just dangerous people with weapons that they should not be allowed to have.
I'm not anti gun, but support the level of limitations that apply in Australia. If you can't hit your prey with one or two shots, you probably shouldn't be shooting either.
Having a right to own assualt weapons to defend yourself from your own government tells me that its a very sick society that has that type of mind set.
Not quite extinct!!!!!!!!
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The shooter at Port Arthur was a pro. Bryant was a patsy. Another PSYOP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29325822


This guy.


 Quoting: Jackie Howe 29848411


hes in the front of an ambulance?I tend to agree with whats on the FB page,blonde wig, dressed like bryant, itd be an eeie similarity , especially with'witnesses' under stress at the time, and wth was he doing there(you and i probably know lol)..has anyone ever named this guy?
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Nobody had a Gun to protect themselves ...

Easy to just point and click ...
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Re: The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
As well as witnesses, I also had met a few of the guides who died. I was also working at Risdon Prison when it happened so I know a lot about Martin Bryant that was never published.
As far as a newbie poster goes. I've been here since the start of GLP, and I always debunk the Martin Bryant conspiracy fuck wits, as I personally know how wrong they are. And that Joe Vialls crap was just gun freak brain farts.
You don't have to be an accurate shooter when you walk up to them and shoot a point blank range. Just like 20 kids got killed today.
No conspiracy, just dangerous people with weapons that they should not be allowed to have.
I'm not anti gun, but support the level of limitations that apply in Australia. If you can't hit your prey with one or two shots, you probably shouldn't be shooting either.
Having a right to own assualt weapons to defend yourself from your own government tells me that its a very sick society that has that type of mind set.
 Quoting: Thylacine


YOU want to turn this into a gun issue-no one else here is-that speaks for itself.
-and as for your "i worked at prison and have been at glp since the start" i say-bsflag

Theres enough info to suggest what YOURE saying is crap.
brainwashed git.
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Re: The shooting accuracy of mass murderers seems to be very high...?
Following the shooting today in the United states, there have been reports of the shooter being very accurate. This reminds me of the my home States own mass shooting, the Port Arthur shooting some 20 years ago. In that case the mentally disabled shooter took out around 16 people in a cafe without missing a shot (all head shots), while shooting from the hip. The "reported" shooter's IQ was around 60 to 70. Are most mass murderers excellent shots or whats going on?
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Not hard to point a gun at someone head when they have nothing to defend themselves with ...


whatever
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He was a gamer.
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^^this^^ friend of mines daughter is 12 yrs old,she started playing shooting games with him around 8 yrs he took her to range at 10 she out shoot every man there ,shes training for olympics,shes crazy good

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