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"We were in my art teacher’s room. We heard some gunshots – like 20. Then the police came with guns and told us to close our eyes," said fourth-grader Venesa Bajraliu, 9.

"I heard gunshots and I saw policemen. My teacher was scared and a little shaky. We went into the office and police came and took us into the firehouse.”

She heard screams and gunshots over the intercom of the school, said her brother, Nergim, 17.

Nergim and his mother were the first to arrive at the school. He saw three young victims, who appeared wounded.

“When I saw the girl come out with police, the girl was splattered with blood.”

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You know, I don't recall hearing them say anything about 'wounded' survivors.

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Yeah, only the number of dead. No mention of "wounded." But we get these stories of kids "spattered with blood"
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Nobody injured in a hospital to tell their story what happened?
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This is the first mass shooting I've heard of where everyone who was hit by a bullet died.
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Kids love to make up stories. What nobody was wounded in a hospital, wow, what a perfect shooter this mental crazy was.
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I wish there was a GLP'ER who lived there, or near there.. i bet what is on the news and what is actually happening are two different things.
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I'm sure there's someone who can set the record straight. Let's run this down until the truth comes out!

Maybe we can start by googling "Newtown"...Wikipedia must have demographic facts about it.
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100% kill shots.... Done by a mental case?
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Maybe if there were more people with guns, this wouldn't have happened.

I call for a mandatory gun ownership for everyone above 18.
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Nobody injured in a hospital to tell their story what happened?
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This is the first mass shooting I've heard of where everyone who was hit by a bullet died.
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Within minutes, Lanza killed 26 people with chilling efficiency, leaving only one injured survivor, according to Vance. Among the adults killed were Dawn Hochsprung, the school's beloved principal, and school psychologist Mary Sherlach.

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All I can say here is that what has happened is much bigger than most people realize, and that 3 different things have actually happened one after the other, and all back to back. #3 event is ongoing!

1. A lot has happened leading up to this "Event".

2. An unseen and hidden thing happened during this "Event".

3. This "Event" is the start of a cycle of related "Events" both direct and indirect.

 Quoting: WatchmenOnTheWall


While reading your post, the creaks I get in my house let out a massive one.

There is so much off about this.

My whole Facebook is posting about this. Everyone taking a side of eliminating guns. There is mob mentality building on this. Soon mentioning you are pro-gun will get you shunned around the water cooler. It would have the same affect of anyone who said they weren't going to vote Obama. People even going after the NRA because it is a "Gun Club" in "America" and a bunch of hobbyists come together and talk about guns.



Not allowing people to see their children is sinister.
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This doesn't make any sense. Why? If they are going conclusively that there was one shooter, and that shooter is dead, why keep the bodies where they fell? Forensics and photography can go a long way without keeping the bodies at the crime scene.

We supposedly give Osama Bin Laden a proper burial at sea, but we can't do the same for these innocent kids????
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Does anyone know how long they kept the bodies in place at Columbine or VT for investigation? Is it longer or shorter then this?
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How many were wonded? This kid was a sharp shooter or what?!
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Kids love to make up stories. What nobody was wounded in a hospital, wow, what a perfect shooter this mental crazy was.
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Maybe he really was a gun enthusiast who wanted to protest gun laws with his senseless acts.


Police Officer: All we know at this moment is that some bodies have hit the floor.
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Kids love to make up stories. What nobody was wounded in a hospital, wow, what a perfect shooter this mental crazy was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471860


Maybe he really was a gun enthusiast who wanted to protest gun laws with his senseless acts.


Police Officer: All we know at this moment is that some bodies have hit the floor.
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there was one injured survivor.
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Maybe if there were more people with guns, this wouldn't have happened.

I call for a mandatory gun ownership for everyone above 18.
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I'd say for everyone, as soon as they have a everyday duty, such a going to school, first class.
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Nobody injured in a hospital to tell their story what happened?
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This is the first mass shooting I've heard of where everyone who was hit by a bullet died.
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Yes, quite amazing. Also, if the illuminutties have friends anywhere, really rich friends, it would be in Fairfield. They might be willing to cooperate with a massive hoax, to stay rich and healthy and alive.

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Kids love to make up stories. What nobody was wounded in a hospital, wow, what a perfect shooter this mental crazy was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471860


Maybe he really was a gun enthusiast who wanted to protest gun laws with his senseless acts.


Police Officer: All we know at this moment is that some bodies have hit the floor.
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there was one injured survivor.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Wow... This kid was practicing a lot, no?!
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Interesting--a change in "security" policy just before the attack happens. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

[link to newyork.cbslocal.com]
Newtown, Conn. School District Had Recently Installed New Safety Protocols

In Letter To Parents Strict Guidelines Were Outlined For 4 Elementary Schools

December 14, 2012 7:05 PM

CBS 2 has learned the school district had just installed a new safety policy designed to prevent situations such as what happened on Friday.

The district took proactive measures to ensure the safety of students and faculty when it unveiled new safety protocols earlier in the school year, but it is unknown if school officials followed the new guidelines prior to the shooting.

Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry. Visitors will still be required to report directly to the office and sign in. If our office staff does not recognize you, you will be required to show identification with a picture id.

It is unclear how the shooter, reportedly armed with a Glock 9mm and a Sig Sauer 9mm, with a Bushmaster .223 assault rifle waiting in a nearby car, gained access to the school or if he showed identification, or if he had entered prior to the 9:30 a.m. doors-locked mandate. It is also unclear how the shooter gained access to the school halls and classrooms.
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Kids love to make up stories. What nobody was wounded in a hospital, wow, what a perfect shooter this mental crazy was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471860


Maybe he really was a gun enthusiast who wanted to protest gun laws with his senseless acts.


Police Officer: All we know at this moment is that some bodies have hit the floor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29945117


there was one injured survivor.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Wow... This kid was practicing a lot, no?!
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You know I cant even speak on this, I never have even shot a gun. Would a child be an easier target then an adult? I dont even know. I dont know.

All I can say is, if they had those in the house, and mom was a gun collector --- the kids could not have been stupid when it comes to guns. I am sure there was plenty of target practice.
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AArgh. Is it too much to ask that people read the thread before posting questions answered pages ago? And even when people repeat the facts, they are ignored.
Ok, The bodies have been removed.
There is one living injured adult survivor.
The guy in camo behind the school? No answers.
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If this is true. Those poor parents will never be able to see there babies again.

After three days, the officials will not let them. They will come up with a reason.. such as bodies are now to decomposed..yada yada yada...

Oh I would be storming irate.. like a mad freakin momma.. clawing at those coppers to let me see my baby.

To hell with the crime scene, My baby is dead!
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There sure are a lot of recently joined people who are pushing the "babies are definitely dead" meme.

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AArgh. Is it too much to ask that people read the thread before posting questions answered pages ago? And even when people repeat the facts, they are ignored.
Ok, The bodies have been removed.
There is one living injured adult survivor.
The guy in camo behind the school? No answers.
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well he let the bodies hit the floor
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What I find amazing is Peter Lanza and his other son Ryan are also partners/employed with Ernst and Young. A global banking and securities company deeply tied in with the Libor scandal.

One hell of a coincidence that the Aurora Mass Shooting, The Nanny that killed the family in New York and the latest mass killing are ALL tied into the Libor scandal.

This can not be by chance. No fucking way.
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is there a thread linking all of the events yet?
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No... But don't let that stop your paranoid mind working overtime!
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^^^More than agree. A 20 year old loses it, end of story.

Everything's a conspiracy, everything's a threat to 'pry your guns away'.
You know my father told the same jokes for 30 years too.

However, dragging Mark Furman out of his hole in the ground and having FOX handle this story is like smearing snot all over a sacred moment.
If you ask me these junk dealers have indeed found their way into the minds of certain members of the population and stringing christmas lights all over a situation that is NOT THEIRS TO TOUCH.
Stay in the sewage fester and crap all over a moment that is not yours either.
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All I can say here is that what has happened is much bigger than most people realize, and that 3 different things have actually happened one after the other, and all back to back. #3 event is ongoing!

1. A lot has happened leading up to this "Event".

2. An unseen and hidden thing happened during this "Event".

3. This "Event" is the start of a cycle of related "Events" both direct and indirect.

 Quoting: WatchmenOnTheWall


yesterday on the media I heard them several times say something like..

..Oh I suppose there will be copy cat shootings now

..we can expect copy cat shootings now

..we will probably see more copy cat shootings now

etc..
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All I can say here is that what has happened is much bigger than most people realize, and that 3 different things have actually happened one after the other, and all back to back. #3 event is ongoing!

1. A lot has happened leading up to this "Event".

2. An unseen and hidden thing happened during this "Event".

3. This "Event" is the start of a cycle of related "Events" both direct and indirect.

 Quoting: WatchmenOnTheWall


yesterday on the media I heard them several times say something like..

..Oh I suppose there will be copy cat shootings now

..we can expect copy cat shootings now

..we will probably see more copy cat shootings now

etc..
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its propaganda subliminal messaging bullcrap.

so pissed at the media over the way they are handling this.
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Some of you are ridiculous. Children ritual? Government OP?
Gun control ploy?

I feel like I'm sharing this site with a bunch of 12-year olds!

Not everything is something. Sometimes a crime is just a crime. Unlike 9-11 that was most certainly an inside job. Why? Because there were too many holes. Same with Princess Di murder. THOSE are conspiracies!

So far there are no holes in these past few massacres (I can't believe I'm writing this as if it's becoming the norm now)
Sometimes people just snap. And they have every reason to snap. Just look around! Life is extremely hard and at times, unfair.
Plus they're learning this behavior from their own country. We're a killing machine and we're slaughtering millions of people in unwarranted wars. But that's another topic for another time.

But is it really that hard to accept that more and more people are just losing it lately? I think the answer is no!

If it weren't for my own self control and grounded-ness, I can see myself going postal every once in a while too. And I don't work for the government nor cult.

So give it up already. You put so much energy and angst in areas (like this) when you're just spinning your wheels unnecessarily. We have bigger issues to be concerned with. Like a lying POTUS. Like the 9-11 criminals sipping umbrella drinks and high-fiving one another down in Paraguay. Like, no end to inflation and lack of employment.
Like the CIA bringing in tons of drugs every day so kids get hooked on them. Like our own government poisoning their own people with food, fluoride, vaccinations etc....
Shall I go on?

My gut tells me this was nothing more than a young man who snapped and went on a killing spree.

I'm not quite sure what they're looking for at the crime scene but not everything is revealed to us either. Maybe they are looking for trace evidence to convict the brother? I really haven't been paying too much attention to the details so I don't know if he's been caught or even a suspect.

But these threads are silly and very immature. And some of the key players here have been very disappointing as well with their threads. When they post a thread that sets a mood which then has a Lemming-like following which is a disservice to truth.
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Some of you are ridiculous. Children ritual? Government OP?
Gun control ploy?

I feel like I'm sharing this site with a bunch of 12-year olds!

Not everything is something. Sometimes a crime is just a crime. Unlike 9-11 that was most certainly an inside job. Why? Because there were too many holes. Same with Princess Di murder. THOSE are conspiracies!

So far there are no holes in these past few massacres (I can't believe I'm writing this as if it's becoming the norm now)
Sometimes people just snap. And they have every reason to snap. Just look around! Life is extremely hard and at times, unfair.
Plus they're learning this behavior from their own country. We're a killing machine and we're slaughtering millions of people in unwarranted wars. But that's another topic for another time.

But is it really that hard to accept that more and more people are just losing it lately? I think the answer is no!

If it weren't for my own self control and grounded-ness, I can see myself going postal every once in a while too. And I don't work for the government nor cult.

So give it up already. You put so much energy and angst in areas (like this) when you're just spinning your wheels unnecessarily. We have bigger issues to be concerned with. Like a lying POTUS. Like the 9-11 criminals sipping umbrella drinks and high-fiving one another down in Paraguay. Like, no end to inflation and lack of employment.
Like the CIA bringing in tons of drugs every day so kids get hooked on them. Like our own government poisoning their own people with food, fluoride, vaccinations etc....
Shall I go on?

My gut tells me this was nothing more than a young man who snapped and went on a killing spree.

I'm not quite sure what they're looking for at the crime scene but not everything is revealed to us either. Maybe they are looking for trace evidence to convict the brother? I really haven't been paying too much attention to the details so I don't know if he's been caught or even a suspect.

But these threads are silly and very immature. And some of the key players here have been very disappointing as well with their threads. When they post a thread that sets a mood which then has a Lemming-like following which is a disservice to truth.
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LISTEN my friend, to the VERY last call on the last segment of C2C last night. The caller's name is Fred who said his wife knew about the shooting from a text she received at work on her computer. Apparently, she works for the GOVERNMENT in SECURITY and knew about this shooting on THURSDAY.She told her husband, Fred, about it and the fact that the mother of the shooter was shot as well, PRIOR TO IT BEING ANNOUNCED ON THE MEDIA. Fred said that he and his wife went back to her workplace to get a copy of that text but the ENTIRE TEXT had been DELETED!
I did not make this stuff up, For too long in my 70plus years, I have sat back and obeyed. (What I was taught to do....) This madness must stop!
Please try and listen to the radio show.
If that conversation does not perk up your ears and make you question, I don't know what will.

I am uncertain how to attach the last portion of the show here. If anyone can assist me, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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Washington Post is saying that the Mother was a gun collector and that Adam graduated 3 years early from high school.

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 Quoting: Corn Dog


Mom was a gun collector? They must think we're morons.
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if her husband is a tax collector for GE, then it makes sense she would have guns (at least to me)

but i am not convinced these were her guns anyway.
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Washington Post is saying that the Mother was a gun collector and that Adam graduated 3 years early from high school.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Corn Dog


Mom was a gun collector? They must think we're morons.
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if her husband is a tax collector for GE, then it makes sense she would have guns (at least to me)

but i am not convinced these were her guns anyway.
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probably not. registered under her name but surely they belonged to the ex or kids who knows.
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This event has been muddied with all sorts of disinformation.



" 9:27 p.m.: From The Wall Street Journal, Nancy Lanza may not have been a teacher at the school: "'No one has heard of her,' said Lillian Bittman, who served on the local school board until 2011. 'Teachers don’t know her.'” Per ABC News, "State and federal authorities believe his mother may have once worked at the elementary school where Adam went on his deadly rampage, although she was not a teacher, according to relatives, perhaps a volunteer."


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