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I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.

 
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I have a son with Autism. Trust me, he has no idea what guns are let alone how to use one. He has no desire to hurt a fly.
I agree with (OP) The Story about him being Autistic is BS!
People are being misled.
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guns were legal and licensed so guntards need lies.


his friends said on the news he was normal, slightly quieter than most.


he has to be deficient, it can't be the gun laws.
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
The American media has to blame someone for the killings.
Instead of blaming mental illness they chose autism?
Pathetic!!
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I'm sorry, but you hold a grudge and carry a vendetta.
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
OP is correct.

In addition--autistic people are gentle and timid. they aren't very physical. They aren't very good with any kind of equipment. The ones I know might be capable of murder by flipping a switch, but not by shooting.

Not only is someone shooting us by the dozens, they are demonizing people on the schizophrenia-autism spectrum.
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After thought. Hitler killed the handicapped among his citizens along with the Jews, I think were being played.
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
You never heard of autistic people harming people? Ive seen it first hand (or an attempt at harming) and knew this one kid with a form of autism that would threaten to hurt teachers if they weren't giving him what he wanted. And another teacher told me about how the same kid beat her in the back with a chair. Don't know if the shooter was actually autistic or not though.
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
OP is correct.

In addition--autistic people are gentle and timid. they aren't very physical. They aren't very good with any kind of equipment. The ones I know might be capable of murder by flipping a switch, but not by shooting.

Not only is someone shooting us by the dozens, they are demonizing people on the schizophrenia-autism spectrum.
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Absolutely. My son is on the spectrum and he is exactly as you describe. A great majority lack both fine and gross motor skills.

They are lumping sociopaths, mood disorders, monsters all into one category now, autism.

Considering the high rate of autistic people, I'm curious if this isn't a motive to begin labeling them as "high risk" for violence.

If autistic people are the reason for all this violence, guns are the last thing to be concerned about.
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A full-fledged autistic might be timid and not able to hold a grudge but many Asperger's kids sure can. Everything revolves around them - their needs and desires. If they don't get what they want - watch out! They often have "sworn enemies" at school and I can imagine once they reach adolescence and their hormones kick in that need to get one over can turn violent - not just childish recess pranks.
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
The disorder is characterized by a distinctive LACK of attention toward the affairs of other people. Why the hell would an autistic person want to harm someone? The second I heard he was suspected to be autistic I knew something else was going on behind the scenes. If he was autistic he wouldn't give a f**&, he would care about his nintendo ds, computer perhaps, food, water, family, and I think that would be about it. Fishy tale to say the least.
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an astute observation, OP .

one of the things i'm wondering about is if this newtown ct
ritual sacrifice of children thing is a prelude to a
bigger event that the nwo are planning and they needed
a sacrifice of virgin children to placate satan to
"favour their endeavours" ...

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Fuckin' eh! If they come to your door speaking English with an accent that sounds strange breathe, relax, aim, and squeeze softly.....
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
I have a son with Autism. Trust me, he has no idea what guns are let alone how to use one. He has no desire to hurt a fly.
I agree with (OP) The Story about him being Autistic is BS!
People are being misled.
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Your son is one example, not sufficient for a generalization.

OP is correct.

In addition--autistic people are gentle and timid. they aren't very physical. They aren't very good with any kind of equipment. The ones I know might be capable of murder by flipping a switch, but not by shooting.

Not only is someone shooting us by the dozens, they are demonizing people on the schizophrenia-autism spectrum.
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Your description does not apply to the entire range of autistic people, their behaviours and their abilities. Some are very highly-functioning.

You never heard of autistic people harming people? Ive seen it first hand (or an attempt at harming) and knew this one kid with a form of autism that would threaten to hurt teachers if they weren't giving him what he wanted. And another teacher told me about how the same kid beat her in the back with a chair. Don't know if the shooter was actually autistic or not though.
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Yep ^


OP is correct.

In addition--autistic people are gentle and timid. they aren't very physical. They aren't very good with any kind of equipment. The ones I know might be capable of murder by flipping a switch, but not by shooting.

Not only is someone shooting us by the dozens, they are demonizing people on the schizophrenia-autism spectrum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29985083


Absolutely. My son is on the spectrum and he is exactly as you describe. A great majority lack both fine and gross motor skills.

They are lumping sociopaths, mood disorders, monsters all into one category now, autism.

Considering the high rate of autistic people, I'm curious if this isn't a motive to begin labeling them as "high risk" for violence.

If autistic people are the reason for all this violence, guns are the last thing to be concerned about.
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Again, there are still many who are highly functioning and have very highly developed gross and fine motor skills. I have an example in mind who i worked with who was incredibly adept at things like video games, for example, which require a high level of fine motor skills. More than enough to use a gun, for sure.

A full-fledged autistic might be timid and not able to hold a grudge but many Asperger's kids sure can. Everything revolves around them - their needs and desires. If they don't get what they want - watch out! They often have "sworn enemies" at school and I can imagine once they reach adolescence and their hormones kick in that need to get one over can turn violent - not just childish recess pranks.
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Yep ^
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
We are missing the point here.
It's not an issue of gross motor skills, or language delay, or any other things that might be attributed to someone on the lower end of the spectrum. I'm a school psychologist specializing in autism with Riverside Country, CA. And I strongly suggest we don't talk about individuals as anything less than individuals. I've tested children for quite some time, and there are no two alike. Strangely, with the credentials some of you are boasting, while referring to these people in terms of 'can' and cannot, leads me to believe that none of you are qualified, and most likely not being truthful about who you claim to be. This saddens me. It appears from intial reports that this young man is not only capable of such an act, there is nothing within his diagnosis that prohibits any behavior that can occur within the population as a whole. Often, those with this diagnosis
Are indistinguishable from those without. And though I would agree the numbers are rising, it may be in part to many factors which include those in my profession who should clearly find other work.

It's too early to know exactly the details of this case, but I'm certain that crisis intervention was a bit late on this one. (Inside joke)
Can we please stop labelling these children, on this board and in the media? The current state of things saddens me to no end.
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County not country* I apologise.
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
I seriously doubt there is any truth at all to this news "story" other than the deaths.

This 20-year-old autistic "kid" drove his mom's car to the school. Yeah... why was he driving her car? How'd she get to work? Why did he leave the gun tha proportedly was used to shoot the children and the teacher/faculty in the trunk of his mother's car?

Yeah maybe the "kid" was messed up. Maybe he went to work with his mom that day. Maybe daddy has skellies in the closet. Maybe something completely different than what is being reported by the news is what actually happened.

What you are meant to know is what will be reported, not what actually happened. What actually happened is nothing to the monsters who did this.

Ever hear of the saying -- the end justifies the means? The goal is important, not what you had to do to get there.

There is abundant evil and greed in this world, yes there is. But hey, we have a bullcrap story for you. Let's blame an inanimate object for the actions of a person and/or people, group of people. Yes, give us your guns. We can do this all day long... comply.
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Re: I'm sorry but people in the autistic spectrum don't hold vendetta's against children and teachers.
We are missing the point here.
It's not an issue of gross motor skills, or language delay, or any other things that might be attributed to someone on the lower end of the spectrum. I'm a school psychologist specializing in autism with Riverside Country, CA. And I strongly suggest we don't talk about individuals as anything less than individuals. I've tested children for quite some time, and there are no two alike. Strangely, with the credentials some of you are boasting, while referring to these people in terms of 'can' and cannot, leads me to believe that none of you are qualified, and most likely not being truthful about who you claim to be. This saddens me. It appears from intial reports that this young man is not only capable of such an act, there is nothing within his diagnosis that prohibits any behavior that can occur within the population as a whole. Often, those with this diagnosis
Are indistinguishable from those without. And though I would agree the numbers are rising, it may be in part to many factors which include those in my profession who should clearly find other work.

It's too early to know exactly the details of this case, but I'm certain that crisis intervention was a bit late on this one. (Inside joke)
Can we please stop labelling these children, on this board and in the media? The current state of things saddens me to no end.
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We are missing the point here.
It's not an issue of gross motor skills, or language delay, or any other things that might be attributed to someone on the lower end of the spectrum. I'm a school psychologist specializing in autism with Riverside Country, CA. And I strongly suggest we don't talk about individuals as anything less than individuals. I've tested children for quite some time, and there are no two alike. Strangely, with the credentials some of you are boasting, while referring to these people in terms of 'can' and cannot, leads me to believe that none of you are qualified, and most likely not being truthful about who you claim to be. This saddens me. It appears from intial reports that this young man is not only capable of such an act, there is nothing within his diagnosis that prohibits any behavior that can occur within the population as a whole. Often, those with this diagnosis
Are indistinguishable from those without. And though I would agree the numbers are rising, it may be in part to many factors which include those in my profession who should clearly find other work.

It's too early to know exactly the details of this case, but I'm certain that crisis intervention was a bit late on this one. (Inside joke)
Can we please stop labelling these children, on this board and in the media? The current state of things saddens me to no end.
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clappa

God bless yu, sir. I have been saying that all along.





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