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Volunteer Researchers Needed - All Mass Shootings in the US from Jan 2007 till present 2012

 
Éireann (OP)
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I appreciate the clues, but if you have knowledge of these things, I need for you to post your sources. I need to focus on each individual shooter. I need people, like you, to provide your research, links, sources, data on any connections. I can't research everything by myself or we will never see the results of this endeavor :)
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lol

the research is in my head from
yrs of research as internet sources
fade away when they are found out
to be a leak of intel.
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Oh. Silly me :) I am a n00b at researching conspiracy type incidents. I've only ever dealt with policy research, Post Grad research (I do research for post grads who are working on their Ph.D), and Friendly Fire accidents.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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My husband, Aldabaran08, just identified the above photo as the shooters from Columbine. It appears that the Conn. shooter was fascinated by this event.
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I really do not see how that is possible
since he was autistic according to news reports.
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Chardon, Ohio:

Chardon High School Shooting

February 27, 2012

Shooter: Thomas 'T.J.' Lane

Murdered 3 students with a .22 pistol

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I live near Chardon and I remember when this happened earlier this year -- the daughter of a woman I work with was shot. Fortunately the girl survived. I can relate to how the people in Newtown are feeling -- complete shock and dismay... unreal.
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My husband, Aldabaran08, just identified the above photo as the shooters from Columbine. It appears that the Conn. shooter was fascinated by this event.
 Quoting: Éireann


I really do not see how that is possible
since he was autistic according to news reports.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29926846


this brings up another barrier to your research.

accuracy

if you rely on MSM for your facts,
then your database is gonna be
corrupted with false intel.
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here is a list of a SCHOOL shootings and that one is already big enough.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Éireann (OP)
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My husband, Aldabaran08, just identified the above photo as the shooters from Columbine. It appears that the Conn. shooter was fascinated by this event.
 Quoting: Éireann


I really do not see how that is possible
since he was autistic according to news reports.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29926846


this brings up another barrier to your research.

accuracy

if you rely on MSM for your facts,
then your database is gonna be
corrupted with false intel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29926846

We are looking at all sources. MSM, Alternative, Fringe. Between every two extremes, there is a mean - Aristotle
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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My research has lead me to this on the Sandy Hook massacre:

Thread: OK, This is too freaky. Suzanne Collins, author of ‘The Hunger Games’, lives in Sandy Hook, CT

Coincidence? Like fuck it is Coincidence. This was an Illuminati Blood Sacrifice of innocents.
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Ok, we have our starting date. January of 2007. Here are the shootings I've identified so far from that time period until today. I've purposely left out the clear cases of domestically motivated shootings between husbands and wives or partners.

Timeline of mass shooting in the US since Columbine

[link to thinkprogress.org]

Everyone who can, please choose a shooting from the timeline list below, and, using the 7 points below, provide as much information as you can in your post.

Also, please let me know who is taking which shooting from the timeline so I can update who is researching what. Don't be shy. If we make mistakes, we'll fix them together. This isn't an exercise in intelligence so much as it is an intelligence gathering project. Please jump in, folks.

1. Name of shooter
2. Psychological diagnosis of shooter
3. Names of medications shooter was taking
4. Name of therapist or name of center shooter went to for therapy
5. Political affiliations, groups, connections to the place the shooting took place.
6. Names and occupations of family members. Who did they work for? If the shooter worked, who for?
7. What was happening Geo/politically at this time whether it be US policy up for vote/consideration or Global policy such as the EU Banking Union vote or UN gun ban vote for example.

Timeline of mass shooting in the US since Columbine

[link to thinkprogress.org]

Everyone who can, please choose a shooting from the timeline at that link that took place between January of 2007 through today and using the 7 points above, provide as much information as you can in your post. Please let me know who is taking which shooting from the timeline so I can update who is researching what. Don't be shy. If we make mistakes, we'll fix them together. This isn't an exercise in intelligence so much as it is an intelligence gathering project. Please jump in, folks.

February 12, 2007. In Salt Lake City’s Trolley Square Mall, 5 people were shot to death and 4 others were wounded by 18-year-old gunman Sulejman Talović. One of the victims was a 16-year-old boy.

April 16, 2007. Virginia Tech became the site of the deadliest school shooting in US history when a student, Seung-Hui Choi, gunned down 56 people. Thirty-two people died in the massacre.

December 5, 2007. A 19-year-old boy, Robert Hawkins, shot up a department store in the Westroads Mall in Omaha, NE. Hawkins killed 9 people and wounded 4 before killing himself. The semi-automatic rifle he used was stolen from his stepfather’s house.

February 7, 2008. Six people died and two were injured in a shooting spree at the City Hall in Kirkwood, Missouri. The gunman, Charles Lee Thornton, opened fire during a public meeting after being denied construction contracts he believed he deserved. Thornton was killed by police.

February 14, 2008. Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University, killing 6 and wounding 21. The gunman shot and killed himself before police arrived. It was the fifth-deadliest university shooting in US history.

April 3, 2009. Jiverly Wong, 41, opened fire at an immigration center in Binghamton, New York before committing suicide. He killed 13 people and wounded 4.

August 3, 2010. Omar S. Thornton, 34, gunned down Hartford Beer Distributor in Manchester, CT after getting caught stealing beer. Nine were killed, including Thornton, and two were injured.

November 5, 2009. Forty-three people were shot by Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan at the Fort Hood army base in Texas. Hasan reportedly yelled “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire, killing 13 and wounding 29 others.

January 8, 2011. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) was shot in the head when 22-year-old Jared Loughner opened fire on an event she was holding at a Safeway market in Tucson, AZ. Six people died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll, one of Giffords’ staffers, and a 9-year-old girl. 19 total were shot. Loughner has been sentenced to seven life terms plus 140 years, without parole.

September 6, 2011. Eduardo Sencion, 32, entered an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, NV and shot 12 people. Five died, including three National Guard members.

October 14, 2011. Eight people died in a shooting at Salon Meritage hair salon in Seal Beach, CA. The gunman, 41-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai, killed six women and two men dead, while just one woman survived. It was Orange County’s deadliest mass killing.

April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.

July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.

August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.

September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.

May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.

December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.

December 14, 2012. On Friday, 20 year old Adam Lanza opened fire at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newport, Conn at around 9:40am. He killed 26 people which included 20 children. The gunman was dead at the scene from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

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Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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17 days ago

2 partners at Ernst & Young had their
convictions overturned on appeal

[link to news.yahoo.com]

interesting timing
Éireann (OP)
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Thread: Volunteer Researchers Needed - All Mass Shootings in the US from Jan 2007 till present 2012 (Page 2)

Please see the above post for where we are at so far. Just defined our search parameters.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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Someone had posted this link in a thread yesterday. Hundreds of shootings around the world where SSRI's have been involved... [link to ssristories.com]
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Someone had posted this link in a thread yesterday. Hundreds of shootings around the world where SSRI's have been involved... [link to ssristories.com]
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Thank you!
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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Why do people keep posting that the CONN shooter had autism like it means he was stupid? People with aspergers are incredibly intelligent, and are a high functioning form of autism. They also tend to focus and obsess about different things.
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I picked this one at random. I'll put a [?] if I can not 100% verify the information. I'm not the best researcher, but I hope this helps.


1.Name:
Steven/Stephen Phillip Kazmierczak(27)

2.Psychological diagnosis
schizoaffective disorder

3.medications:
Xanax
Ambien
Prozac
Seroquel
Risperdal
Clozaril
Zyprexa

4.therapy Centers:
Elk Grove Village Thresholds-Mary Hill House psychiatric center(1998-2)

McKinley Health Center at the University of Illinois(Fall of 2007)

5.Political affiliations
Academic Criminal Justice Association

6.Names and occupations of family members + Jobs

Mother:Gail Marie Kazmierczak(September 1948- September2006) died of Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.
Work: Couldn't find any information/Homemaker?

Father:Robert T Kazmierczak -
[?]Work:Inventor(1979-1995)
[?]Companies:
[?]Elf Atochem North America
[?]Pennwalt Corporation

Jobs/Work:
Various Retail/Fast Food places(?-?)

“administratively discharged” from the Army(February 2001-2002)

research assistant*Social Work* (Fall of 2007) - boss:Chris Larrison, assistant professor in the School of Social Work.

Rockville Correctional Facility as and officer(September 2007, two weeks) - boss:Randy Koester,chief of staff for Indiana Department of Correction.

7. What was happening Geo/politically at this time whether it be US policy up for vote/consideration or Global policy such as the EU Banking Union vote or UN gun ban vote for example.

2007-2009:
[link to www.ilga.gov]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]



[sources]:I found them all through Google
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to articles.chicagotribune.com]
[link to www.sysoon.com]
[link to www.nytimes.com]
[link to www.murderpedia.org]
[link to www.ilga.gov]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.bordc.org]
[link to chicago.blockshopper.com]
[link to www.zoominfo.com]
[link to patents.justia.com]
[link to www.niu.edu]
[link to ssdmf.info]

If I find anymore information, I'll try to update.
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op

very good thread

however 2 things you need to consider

1) You should not limit this research
to just 1 yr, there were shootings
as far back as January 2011 (Gabby Giffords)
that is connected.

2) I have already found a link to every shooting:
Ernst & Young connection to every one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29926846

Can you explain Ernst & Young to me in more detail? I don't know anything about this connection.

Do you think we need to go all the way back to the Columbine shooting?

*side note* I can not believe I didn't install Office when I reinstalled my OS's. Where the hell is my head. For eight months I haven't had office on my machine. Guess you can tell I haven't been doing any personal research projects. Waiting for Office to install. Will also be uploading docs to google docs if everyone thinks that is OK.
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There is a free substitute, Open Office 3.1, that is just as good.
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Take a look at this:
[link to www.naturalnews.com]
Éireann (OP)
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February 14, 2008. Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University, killing 6 and wounding 21. The gunman shot and killed himself before police arrived. It was the fifth-deadliest university shooting in US history.

 Quoting: Éireann


I picked this one at random. I'll put a [?] if I can not 100% verify the information. I'm not the best researcher, but I hope this helps.


1.Name:
Steven/Stephen Phillip Kazmierczak(27)

2.Psychological diagnosis
schizoaffective disorder

3.medications:
Xanax
Ambien
Prozac
Seroquel
Risperdal
Clozaril
Zyprexa

4.therapy Centers:
Elk Grove Village Thresholds-Mary Hill House psychiatric center(1998-2)

McKinley Health Center at the University of Illinois(Fall of 2007)

5.Political affiliations
Academic Criminal Justice Association

6.Names and occupations of family members + Jobs

Mother:Gail Marie Kazmierczak(September 1948- September2006) died of Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.
Work: Couldn't find any information/Homemaker?

Father:Robert T Kazmierczak -
[?]Work:Inventor(1979-1995)
[?]Companies:
[?]Elf Atochem North America
[?]Pennwalt Corporation

Jobs/Work:
Various Retail/Fast Food places(?-?)

“administratively discharged” from the Army(February 2001-2002)

research assistant*Social Work* (Fall of 2007) - boss:Chris Larrison, assistant professor in the School of Social Work.

Rockville Correctional Facility as and officer(September 2007, two weeks) - boss:Randy Koester,chief of staff for Indiana Department of Correction.

7. What was happening Geo/politically at this time whether it be US policy up for vote/consideration or Global policy such as the EU Banking Union vote or UN gun ban vote for example.

2007-2009:
[link to www.ilga.gov]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]



[sources]:I found them all through Google
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to articles.chicagotribune.com]
[link to www.sysoon.com]
[link to www.nytimes.com]
[link to www.murderpedia.org]
[link to www.ilga.gov]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.bordc.org]
[link to chicago.blockshopper.com]
[link to www.zoominfo.com]
[link to patents.justia.com]
[link to www.niu.edu]
[link to ssdmf.info]

If I find anymore information, I'll try to update.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28036927

Holy fucking wow! Look at all of those meds! Some of them interact with the others. I hope he wasn't taking them all at the same time! Thank you SO much for this!!!! Excellent work and excellent post!

Check this:

Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 (enacted February 13, 2008)

The Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 (Pub.L. 110-185, 122 Stat. 613, enacted February 13, 2008) was an Act of Congress providing for several kinds of economic stimuli intended to boost the United States economy in 2008 and to avert a recession, or ameliorate economic conditions. The stimulus package was passed by the U.S. House of Representatives on January 29, 2008, and in a slightly different version by the U.S. Senate on February 7, 2008. The Senate version was then approved in the House the same day.[1] It was signed into law on February 13, 2008 by President Bush with the support of both Democratic and Republican lawmakers. The law provides for tax rebates to low- and middle-income U.S. taxpayers, tax incentives to stimulate business investment, and an increase in the limits imposed on mortgages eligible for purchase by government-sponsored enterprises (e.g., Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac). The total cost of this bill was projected at $152 billion for 2008.[2]

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Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam's older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father's footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice. He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.

[link to gma.yahoo.com]
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Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam's older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father's footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice. He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.

[link to gma.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29977663

Lovely....

This is just getting worse and worse. I'm overwhelmed with data.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam's older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father's footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice. He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.

[link to gma.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29977663

Lovely....

This is just getting worse and worse. I'm overwhelmed with data.
 Quoting: Éireann

I mean, are they using these people's kids to keep them in check or something? This is totally messed up!
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Here is the link to the thread where I first posted my request. There is some stuff in that thread that I will be moving over here. Thank you to the OP of that thread for enduring my derailment. I'm very sorry about that.

Thread: Parents of massacred children not allowed to see them. Dead will REMAIN in the school till Sunday!!! (Page 10)

Can someone help me with some research, please?

I want to look into each of the mass shootings that have happened this year just in the States. I want to find out the following for each shooting:

1. Name of shooter
2. Psychological diagnosis of shooter
3. Names of medications shooter was taking
4. Name of therapist or name of center shooter went to for therapy
5. Political affiliations, groups, connections to the place the shooting took place.
6. Names and occupations of family members. Who did they work for? If the shooter worked, who for?
7. What was happening Geo/politically at this time whether it be US policy up for vote/consideration or Global policy such as the EU Banking Union vote or UN gun ban vote for example.

Anything else?

Anyone who can help me identify every mass shooting between January of this year and now. We'll go back farther if we have to to find the pattern.

Any takers?

It looks like someone already did a timeline of shootings in the US that starts with Columbine. It's from a "Think Progress" site, but the data is still good.

Timeline of mass shooting in the US since Columbine

[link to thinkprogress.org]

Everyone who can, please choose a shooting from the timeline at that link that took place between January of 2007 through today and using the 7 points above, provide as much information as you can in your post. Please let me know who is taking which shooting from the timeline so I can update who is researching what. Don't be shy. If we make mistakes, we'll fix them together. This isn't an exercise in intelligence so much as it is an intelligence gathering project. Please jump in, folks.



PS. This is a research thread. Trolls and idiots inciting arguments will be banned and their posts deleted. I'm not going to wade through your shit. This is too important and I don't have time to be diplomatic.

 Quoting: Éireann


Great idea OP!

A few things you might want to add to researching might be:

1. If the shootings were originally thought to be multiple shooter (all of the shootings recently have evidence pointing towards multiple shooters, as well as witnesses/first responders saying things about multiple people, but the reports stating only one.

2. Military affiliations of Parents, therapists or the shooter.

3. Careers of parents, and connections to big business/government.

Just possible things to look into from the shootings of the past few years.
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Do you think we need to go all the way back to the Columbine shooting?
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I would stay within the time constraints of the Obama Administration.
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Ok. We can start there. If we need more data, well go back before 2008.
 Quoting: Éireann


the Newton Lanza shooter's father partnered
at Ernst & Young and worked for GE Corporation.
Ernst & Young did the accounting for GE when
they had that zero tax yr.

James Holmes's father was to testify in the
LIBOR scandal. Ernst & Young is responsible
for taking online Union Dues for LIBOR
Employees.

Gabby Giffords was working to push solar energy
in congress. This bill was keeping a merger
from occurring. The merger between Progress Energy
and Duke Power. Ernst & Young is the accountant
for Duke Power. Gabby was shot one day, the very
next day the merger occurred. The day after that
an employee with Progress Energy suicided in her garage.
Her name was Ashley Turton. Her husband was on
Obama's White House Staff.

Ernst & Young appears to be an economic hitman
like the CIA uses. An agency who fixes things.
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Éireann (OP)
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We have been absolutely inundated by information. blink I had NO idea what I was getting myself into. The rabbit hole here seems never-ending.

My focus has been on the medications. For me, this is rather personal, because I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome in 2009. This latest shooting seems to portray people with this condition as emotionless, cold, and detached from humanity. This is simply not true.

The medications I take do several things. Firstly, I have a serious anger control problem. It is part of my condition, but more so, I think, it comes from years of being misunderstood and ostracized by my peers. Therapy has been a godsend. The medications help me to look at problems more rationally and objectively rather than subjectively. This, combined with proper and positive therapy, has helped me to become a more active participant in society. I'm still a loner, but never once have I ever entertained any plan to harm. It is because of this fact, and the fact that 1000s of other people suffering from my same condition who have never been violent, that I believe the medications and therapy these killers are getting are being used to "groom" them into a certain mindset. The medications make you pliable. If a therapist had an ulterior motive for their patients, the outcome would be someone like Adam Lanza. However, lack of proper treatment can also be at play here.

More later. I'm still trying to grasp why any psychologist, therapist, or psychiatrist would be so evil. It is, actually, rather scary and I will be forever selective of those who I seek out for therapy.

Last Edited by Éireann on 12/17/2012 05:11 AM
Éireann~

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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Ernst & Young

E&Y is an International Banking Cartel
Economic Hit Squad. A front for the CIA.

They cook your accounting books
They hide your money so it don't get taxed
They assassinate or destroy their client's competitors
They use Psy-Ops to sway mass opinion on legislation
(even legislators are targeted when necessary)

Ernst & Young is the Agency
who fixes everything for their
banking clients.

Peter Lanza partnered at E&Y and also
E&Y did the accounting for GE which
Peter Lanza worked for.

Ernst & Young also did financial work
for LIBOR. When LIBOR employees paid their
union dues online, Ernst & Young accepted
that money.

Remember those airplanes that keep going down
with tons of cocaine on them ?? Those
dummy companies the planes registered to
also accounting done by Ernst & Young.

the rabbit hole goes deeper than what
you thought.

a couple massacres is only a drop in
the bucket for these guys.
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Ernst & Young

E&Y is an International Banking Cartel
Economic Hit Squad. A front for the CIA.

They cook your accounting books
They hide your money so it don't get taxed
They assassinate or destroy their client's competitors
They use Psy-Ops to sway mass opinion on legislation
(even legislators are targeted when necessary)

Ernst & Young is the Agency
who fixes everything for their
banking clients.

Peter Lanza partnered at E&Y and also
E&Y did the accounting for GE which
Peter Lanza worked for.

Ernst & Young also did financial work
for LIBOR. When LIBOR employees paid their
union dues online, Ernst & Young accepted
that money.

Remember those airplanes that keep going down
with tons of cocaine on them ?? Those
dummy companies the planes registered to
also accounting done by Ernst & Young.

the rabbit hole goes deeper than what
you thought.

a couple massacres is only a drop in
the bucket for these guys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7799716

OMFG! Thank you!!!!!

Boy. Ernst & Young. They are a front for something. CFR? Something huge here. This company has irons in just about every fire on this planet.

BTW. If they succeed in disarming us, it's all over but the wailing. Guns don't kill. They don't leap up and out of the gun cabinet and go on a rampage. The number of wackos going on killing sprees is miniscule compared to the numbers of responsible gun owners world wide.

Last Edited by Éireann on 12/17/2012 05:29 AM
Éireann~

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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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OH... I forgot to tell you all what I found out about the medications.

1doh1

Gabapentin. Zyprexa, Cymbalta, and a whole list of others. Did you know that an allergic reaction to gabapentin can cause psychotic episodes? I'm allergic to gabapentin. They tried that shit on me and I felt so displaced I told the Dr. FUCK YOU and get me off this shit!

[link to www.drugs.com]

Last Edited by Éireann on 12/17/2012 05:34 AM
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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OH... I forgot to tell you all what I found out about the medications.

1doh1

Gabapentin. Zyprexa, Cymbalta, and a whole list of others. Did you know that an allergic reaction to gabapentin can cause psychotic episodes? I'm allergic to gabapentin. They tried that shit on me and I felt so displaced I told the Dr. FUCK YOU and get me off this shit!

[link to www.drugs.com]
 Quoting: Éireann


Check this out! This is a list of all the medications that contain Gabapentin. Just click on a link to see a list of medications that are used to treat that specific disorder.

[link to www.drugs.com]

Here I am... allergic to gabapentin and guess what??? Effexor HAS gabapentin in it! NO wonder I feel so fucked up between doses! This is the drug they gave me to help me control my rages. WTF???

Last Edited by Éireann on 12/17/2012 05:48 AM
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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op

you are missing the point.
you keep pushing the drug and behavior
aspect of this case when you need to
focus on the puppet masters controlling
the people.

There also more connections:

Frank C. Lanza, CEO of Lockheed Martin
Adam Lanza's uncle

died in 2006

guess who did the accounting for Lockheed
Martin while under Lanza ???

Ernst & Young

Shareholders of Lockheed Martin Corp., the largest U.S. defense contractor, voted to retain auditors Ernst & Young LLP, whose independence was questioned by some shareholders because of nonaudit work performed for Lockheed. Lockheed's shareholders, meeting in Fort Worth, Texas, also rejected a proposal to prohibit the company's auditors from doing any future work outside the scope of auditing the company's results. Lockheed paid Ernst & Young $16.8 million last year, 43 percent of which was for nonaudit work, such as government-contract services.
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[link to articles.orlandosentinel.com]

April 2004 article

Frank Lanza died unexpectedly in 2006

Frank C. Lanza (74) chairman, chief executive, and cofounder of defense contractor L-3 Communications Holdings Inc. Lanza died suddenly in New York City while recovering from recent surgery, on June 7, 2006.
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[link to lifeinlegacy.com]

We were also pleased this past year to have been able to conclude our transaction with Loral Corporation, and the transition of the former Loral businesses into Lockheed Martin has now largely been accomplished. Much of the credit for the latter goes to Mr. Bernard L. Schwartz, former Loral Chairman, and Mr. Frank C. Lanza, former Loral President, both of whom have served on our Board during the transition. Mr. Lanza will be issued 1,500,000 shares of Class B Common Stock, or 7.5 percent of the equity securities of Newco, in return for cash consideration of $7.5 million.
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[link to apps.shareholder.com]
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Take a look at this:
[link to www.naturalnews.com]
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Oh wow. I just read this article. This is huge. I didn't know the following:

Just days before being murdered, Judge Roll had issued a preliminary ruling with intent to rule against the case of 'United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al'. The subject of the case involved giving the Obama Administration power to seize citizens' assets regardless of whether or not it could be proven that they committed any sort of crimes. And Judge Roll had planned to declare it unconstitutional.

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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