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Why is it that CHRISTIANS here forget the most BASIC messages of Christ?

 
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Matthew 5:45 That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

Passage below ...

Matthew 5:43 You have heard it said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. [44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you; [45] That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. [46] For if you love them which love you, what reward have you? Do not even the publicans do the same? [47] And if you salute your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the publicans do so? [48] Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Where in the above is your God desiring to fry people in hell?
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greaaaat another person attempting to twist the words of the bible to prove their point......it never gets old.
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greaaaat another person attempting to twist the words of the bible to prove their point......it never gets old.
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I guess you showed you wroth with the one star, how did I twist the words? Can't you read.

It will be hell for you. You have not learnt anything at the church.

You might as well watch porn and get pissed.
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He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
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He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29558518


Old testament you are meant to have gotten past all that shit and turned to Jesus. These are not the teachings of Christ.

You are no better than those who stoned people by quoting these verses.

No better than those who burnt people at the stake!
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the most important thing is,the bible is to be felt,experienced and lived...brain is too weak to comprehend it


God is a spirit and we are to be in spirit and worship in spirit

only when you live the teachings they become a part of you
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He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29558518


Old testament you are meant to have gotten past all that shit and turned to Jesus. These are not the teachings of Christ.

You are no better than those who stoned people by quoting these verses.

No better than those who burnt people at the stake!
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i think you do not understand,your genes and mine would never have persisted to our generation if they havent done that

Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
deut21:21

it was essential to make the world as it is,

do you see the world without judgment and righteousness now?

do you understand where are we headed to?

if we could only percieve the mercy granted to us,then we would appreciate it...
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satan? That you satan??
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He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29558518


Old testament you are meant to have gotten past all that shit and turned to Jesus. These are not the teachings of Christ.

You are no better than those who stoned people by quoting these verses.

No better than those who burnt people at the stake!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


i think you do not understand,your genes and mine would never have persisted to our generation if they havent done that

Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
deut21:21

it was essential to make the world as it is,

do you see the world without judgment and righteousness now?

do you understand where are we headed to?

if we could only percieve the mercy granted to us,then we would appreciate it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29940559


There's no point in arguing with him, satan has already gotten to him, and has already blinded him.
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How many kids did God drown in Noah's flood?
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Re: Why is it that CHRISTIANS here forget the most BASIC messages of Christ?
Matthew 5:45 That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

Passage below ...

Matthew 5:43 You have heard it said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. [44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you; [45] That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. [46] For if you love them which love you, what reward have you? Do not even the publicans do the same? [47] And if you salute your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the publicans do so? [48] Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Where in the above is your God desiring to fry people in hell?
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 Quoting: well? 945308


Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

You are right on, if you are a disciple of Jesus you are called to pray for the ones who hurt you and forgive those who betray you, praying for their repentance and salvation. God Himself would rather every last wicked person would turn and repent. But if they don't and they commit evil, then being a righteous judge, God must deliver them to punishment, otherwise their crimes would go unaswered - the rapists, murderers, thieves etc.

Being a Christian doesn't mean you want people to go to hell, it means you want to save them from hell and preach the good news and gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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Matthew 5:45 That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

Passage below ...

Matthew 5:43 You have heard it said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. [44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you; [45] That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. [46] For if you love them which love you, what reward have you? Do not even the publicans do the same? [47] And if you salute your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the publicans do so? [48] Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Where in the above is your God desiring to fry people in hell?
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 Quoting: well? 945308


Hell after you die, not in your lifetime though. Oh wait, may be WW3 will do it. Whatever.
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Listen you guys posting stuff from the OLD TESTAMENT you are meant to be Christians, what you quote, shows me you are not better than Muslims who follow the Old Testament teachings and like to chop off hands and stone their wives to death.

Don't call me Satan, you lot are evil

I did not realize how deep your sickness was, but I see it is real deep.
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Listen you guys posting stuff from the OLD TESTAMENT you are meant to be Christians, what you quote, shows me you are not better than Muslims who follow the Old Testament teachings and like to chop off hands and stone their wives to death.

Don't call me Satan, you lot are evil

I did not realize how deep your sickness was, but I see it is real deep.
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He never knew you, OP. God of OT is His Father.
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Listen you guys posting stuff from the OLD TESTAMENT you are meant to be Christians, what you quote, shows me you are not better than Muslims who follow the Old Testament teachings and like to chop off hands and stone their wives to death.

Don't call me Satan, you lot are evil

I did not realize how deep your sickness was, but I see it is real deep.
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He never knew you, OP. God of OT is His Father.
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He wouldn't have bloody clue who you are.

Why are you arguing with me?

You are meant to be all sweet and nice and above such things.
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HATE..DOOM..BURN IN HELL..YOU NEVER KNEW GOD..ya gonna BURN..OUR god is REAL and YOUR god is SATAN..you are EVIL..and VILE..and WE are holy and good so BURN YOU EVIL DENYER OF GODS DOOM.


Have you lot ever sat down and read the BULLSHIT you all preach?

HOW HATEFUL and EVIL IT IS?

Its no wonder people cant stand christians..they are ALL EVI HATE FILLED CUNTS TO EACHOTHER ALL THE TIME.
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Listen you guys posting stuff from the OLD TESTAMENT you are meant to be Christians, what you quote, shows me you are not better than Muslims who follow the Old Testament teachings and like to chop off hands and stone their wives to death.

Don't call me Satan, you lot are evil

I did not realize how deep your sickness was, but I see it is real deep.
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He never knew you, OP. God of OT is His Father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


He wouldn't have bloody clue who you are.

Why are you arguing with me?

You are meant to be all sweet and nice and above such things.
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15Moreover if your brother shall trespass against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone: if he shall hear you, you have gained your brother.

16But if he will not hear you, then take with you one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto you as a heathen man and a tax collector. Math 18
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Matthew 5:45 That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

Passage below ...

Matthew 5:43 You have heard it said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. [44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you; [45] That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. [46] For if you love them which love you, what reward have you? Do not even the publicans do the same? [47] And if you salute your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the publicans do so? [48] Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Where in the above is your God desiring to fry people in hell?
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 Quoting: well? 945308


Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

You are right on, if you are a disciple of Jesus you are called to pray for the ones who hurt you and forgive those who betray you, praying for their repentance and salvation. God Himself would rather every last wicked person would turn and repent. But if they don't and they commit evil, then being a righteous judge, God must deliver them to punishment, otherwise their crimes would go unanswered - the rapists, murderers, thieves etc.

Being a Christian doesn't mean you want people to go to hell, it means you want to save them from hell and preach the good news and gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
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hf a sensible reply.
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HATE..DOOM..BURN IN HELL..YOU NEVER KNEW GOD..ya gonna BURN..OUR god is REAL and YOUR god is SATAN..you are EVIL..and VILE..and WE are holy and good so BURN YOU EVIL DENYER OF GODS DOOM.


Have you lot ever sat down and read the BULLSHIT you all preach?

HOW HATEFUL and EVIL IT IS?

Its no wonder people cant stand christians..they are ALL EVI HATE FILLED CUNTS TO EACHOTHER ALL THE TIME.
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Most on this site are shocking.

Hardly a decent one among them.
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Millions of humans have died over Jesus.
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Millions of humans have died over Jesus.
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Yip, probably responsible for more deaths than anybody else ever!

Apart from God of course.
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Why? In a nutshell; Thread: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A REAL APOSTLE

Bedazzled by talk of blood/death/resurrection/paid-for-our-sins-salvation we ignored the real message and messenger and instead learned to freely judge one another, calling for hellfire and damnation on all who would not believe likewise

True story


the most important thing is,the bible is to be felt,experienced and lived...brain is too weak to comprehend it


God is a spirit and we are to be in spirit and worship in spirit

only when you live the teachings they become a part of you
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Truly these are fine words. May God bless you for sharing them.
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greaaaat another person attempting to twist the words of the bible to prove their point......it never gets old.
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I guess you showed you wroth with the one star, how did I twist the words? Can't you read.

It will be hell for you. You have not learnt anything at the church.

You might as well watch porn and get pissed.
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So your the father now? You should repent for the words you speak. Your tongue suggest your no better then the harlot.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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greaaaat another person attempting to twist the words of the bible to prove their point......it never gets old.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19774795


I guess you showed you wroth with the one star, how did I twist the words? Can't you read.

It will be hell for you. You have not learnt anything at the church.

You might as well watch porn and get pissed.
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So your the father now? You should repent for the words you speak. Your tongue suggest your no better then the harlot.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I don't need to be the father to make the above observation.

Most of the Christians on this site are nasty as.

There's not a christian bone in their bodies.

The only reason they're Christians is to grab their ticket to heaven which they think they're getting from the murder of the son.
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satan? That you satan??
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Typical christian, scared of the boogy man crap.

God is Satan. The god of the bible = Saturn the Roman God which is Satan.
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How many kids did God drown in Noah's flood?
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greaaaat another person attempting to twist the words of the bible to prove their point......it never gets old.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19774795


I guess you showed you wroth with the one star, how did I twist the words? Can't you read.

It will be hell for you. You have not learnt anything at the church.

You might as well watch porn and get pissed.
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So your the father now? You should repent for the words you speak. Your tongue suggest your no better then the harlot.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I don't need to be the father to make the above observation.

Most of the Christians on this site are nasty as.

There's not a christian bone in their bodies.

The only reason they're Christians is to grab their ticket to heaven which they think they're getting from the murder of the son.
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Your spirit is not pure, yet again you have passed judgement twice, your flesh the very ego in your words has pulled the wool over your eyes.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

If you don't believe in Christ, and try your absolute best to keep the commandments, you're finished.
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greaaaat another person attempting to twist the words of the bible to prove their point......it never gets old.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19774795


I guess you showed you wroth with the one star, how did I twist the words? Can't you read.

It will be hell for you. You have not learnt anything at the church.

You might as well watch porn and get pissed.
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That's why you hate God, because he wants you to stop watching porn and getting "pissed"

You would like the rest of us to watch porn and become addicts so you can feel better about yourself.

Got it.

Thanks for playing.
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He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29558518


Old testament you are meant to have gotten past all that shit and turned to Jesus. These are not the teachings of Christ.

You are no better than those who stoned people by quoting these verses.

No better than those who burnt people at the stake!
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If they go by the New Testament only, then there's not enough justification for war and capital punishment which Christians also heavily support in great numbers. Most of our military are Christians. Therefore it's easier to just say "I'm saved" and be done with all those other prickly questions.
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Do these donkeys really think they could maim the Great Lion? These fools cannot even see him, let alone attack him.

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