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MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?

 
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The title says it all. What was the young man's motive??? Why did he shoot up a room full of children and kill the principal and psychologist and other teachers?

The focus is on guns and the father's job at GE. But what was Adam's motive?

No crime is committed without a motive

Or was it even Adam who did it?????????

The killer was 'masked' and could have been anyone. The killer was a sharp-shooter.

Was Adam a sharp-shooter?

Remember the supposed perpetrators of 9/11, how their passports were conveniently found among the ashes on the streets of NYC. No-one with brains actually believes that the Middle Eastern 'boxcutters' were responsible for 9/11.

Could Adam not even have done this heinous deed, and yet have been used as a dupe?


I do not buy the "He was crazy and snapped" excuse. No-one gets that crazy all of a sudden or all of a sudden becomes a sharp-shooter. You have to be some kind of monster to walk into an elementary school and kill 20 children in cold blood. Was there any evidence that Adam was that kind of monster?

WHAT WAS ADAM'S MOTIVE FOR KILLING THE CHILDREN? If he didn't have one, he didn't do it.

And what about this 'second shooter' that early eye-witnesses reported?
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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The ONLY way to have a gun control is to kill children! Than everyone listens. Sad but true.
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OR someone who is a butthurt little bitch and wants to be remembered and mark his influence on the world
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OR someone who is a butthurt little bitch and wants to be remembered and mark his influence on the world
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Yes, but even such a person does not snap overnight into such a cold-hearted, sharp-shooting monster.
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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you underestimate the multiple personalities that can be developed within MKUltra project.
And their is mother in the picture too, RIP.
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OR someone who is a butthurt little bitch and wants to be remembered and mark his influence on the world
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Influence?! What influence?! THINK...
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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The ONLY way to have a gun control is to kill children! Than everyone listens. Sad but true.
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Yes, I agree with you that this appears to be the real motive, but that exonerates Adam (makes him innocent), doesn't it?
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How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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The ONLY way to have a gun control is to kill children! Than everyone listens. Sad but true.
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How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?
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Exactly. It doesn't add up. And how convenient that the mother (who would have been the main witness about her son's capabilities) was killed point-blank.
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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The ONLY way to have a gun control is to kill children! Than everyone listens. Sad but true.
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Yes, I agree with you that this appears to be the real motive, but that exonerates Adam (makes him innocent), doesn't it?
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We'll never know... If he was on antidepresants you know where the convo will lead..
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How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?
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Exactly. It doesn't add up. And how convenient that the mother (who would have been the main witness about her son's capabilities) was killed point-blank.
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I've heard she was shot in the face on the dinner table. Who did it?
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This is the result of our lack of courage in facing the truth about 911. The result of 911 was the creation of the security state, to justify their continued existence they need to attack the citizens.
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"Oh my, I don't know why he did it, therefore it is all a conspiracy."

Thread: Fuck you with the agenda. Children were killed. Let their families have peace without your fucking rants about Obama

Thread: Do you know why the world hates conspiracy theorists?
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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you underestimate the multiple personalities that can be developed within MKUltra project.
And their is mother in the picture too, RIP.
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The young man was Autistic and considered to be borderline retarded. You are stretching it here with this 'multiple personalities' premise. It's a nice excuse, but it just doesn't wash with me. You can only work with the material you have. Adam was not 'MK Ultra' material.
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How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?
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^^ this.

MSMS said he was 'probably' let in to the building as he said he was collecting his Mother.

Well.... his Mother wasn't in school, she was back home full of lead.

Unless he simply took her key and let himself in the back?

But still... HOW did he get all the equipment? Most 'normal' households have stuff like that locked away... if you have someone with special needs in the house you'd double check they couldn't get to it all.

but then again if he got hold of her keys then he probably helped himself..

BUt then WHY would a school teacher and a tax man have all that crap in their home?
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BUt then WHY would a school teacher and a tax man have all that crap in their home?
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Says people on GLP where you find people thinking everyone should have such crap in their homes...
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Re: MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?
Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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The ONLY way to have a gun control is to kill children! Than everyone listens. Sad but true.
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Yes, I agree with you that this appears to be the real motive, but that exonerates Adam (makes him innocent), doesn't it?
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We'll never know... If he was on antidepresants you know where the convo will lead..
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Anti-depressants don't turn you into a sharp-shooter. No wounded, just successful kills with no-one lifting a hand to stop him. Doesn't sound like a 90-pound semi-retarded 20-year-old to me.
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How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?
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^^ this.

MSMS said he was 'probably' let in to the building as he said he was collecting his Mother.

Well.... his Mother wasn't in school, she was back home full of lead.

Unless he simply took her key and let himself in the back?

But still... HOW did he get all the equipment? Most 'normal' households have stuff like that locked away... if you have someone with special needs in the house you'd double check they couldn't get to it all.

but then again if he got hold of her keys then he probably helped himself..

BUt then WHY would a school teacher and a tax man have all that crap in their home?
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You're still assuming Adam did it. I'm assuming he didn't. If you start with the premise that he did not do it but was rather used as a dupe (perhaps because of his father's tax position [maybe a warning or payback for something]) with the ulterior motive for ramming through gun laws, then it starts to make sense.

Was Adam really the victim here as well?
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Having aspergers, I wonder if he was ever a part of the gifted and talented program at that school. That would explain killing the psychologist and other teachers, and perhaps the children which he may have felt were "tainted" like him by their manipulation. There is a lot of weird mind control stuff that goes down in those programs, so I would also tend to agree with the earlier comment regarding MKUltra.
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Just guessing but he killed his mother then students, he could have been jealous of the attention his mother was naturally giving to her students. I had a friend who's mother was a psychologist and she was seriously messed up over how much attention and time she spent on her patients.
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The ONLY way to have a gun control is to kill children! Than everyone listens. Sad but true.
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Yes, I agree with you that this appears to be the real motive, but that exonerates Adam (makes him innocent), doesn't it?
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We'll never know... If he was on antidepresants you know where the convo will lead..
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Anti-depressants don't turn you into a sharp-shooter. No wounded, just successful kills with no-one lifting a hand to stop him. Doesn't sound like a 90-pound semi-retarded 20-year-old to me.
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Antidepresants can turn you into a mush! There are SO much side effects, you have no clue! The whole part of medicine regarding this is artificial. All for money. Can you detect mental illness with a blood test?! Nope.
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Having aspergers, I wonder if he was ever a part of the gifted and talented program at that school. That would explain killing the psychologist and other teachers, and perhaps the children which he may have felt were "tainted" like him by their manipulation. There is a lot of weird mind control stuff that goes down in those programs, so I would also tend to agree with the earlier comment regarding MKUltra.
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Casting Adam as the villain because he was somehow mentally 'off' is a convenient excuse, but it still doesn't explain his accuracy with guns and it still doesn't give him a motive. I DO NOT BUY THAT HE WAS AN OPERATIVE THAT WAS PROGRAMMED TO KILL, anymore than I buy that there's a Santa Claus or Easter Bunny.

I believe Adam was innocent. I do not believe he was the killer. I believe he was set up, and I believe he was murdered by the real killer(s). I have no proof to back up my beliefs other than to assert that the facts, as presented by the mainstream media, do not add up, and that Adam being innocent makes more sense than Adam being guilty.

Without a motive, there is no crime. Adam had no history or violence and no reason to gun down a roomful of children, leaving no wounded, just clean kills.
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Just guessing but he killed his mother then students, he could have been jealous of the attention his mother was naturally giving to her students. I had a friend who's mother was a psychologist and she was seriously messed up over how much attention and time she spent on her patients.
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His mother wasn't a teacher at that school. She had apparently done some volunteer work there a while back, but she was generally unknown by the school community. There was really not connection between Adam and the school.
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Yes, I agree with you that this appears to be the real motive, but that exonerates Adam (makes him innocent), doesn't it?
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We'll never know... If he was on antidepresants you know where the convo will lead..
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Anti-depressants don't turn you into a sharp-shooter. No wounded, just successful kills with no-one lifting a hand to stop him. Doesn't sound like a 90-pound semi-retarded 20-year-old to me.
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Antidepresants can turn you into a mush! There are SO much side effects, you have no clue! The whole part of medicine regarding this is artificial. All for money. Can you detect mental illness with a blood test?! Nope.
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Yes, drugs can turn you into mush, but there is no word yet that he was on any type of anti-depressant. Also, they don't make you a perfect shot.
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Argument from silence is not a wise thing to do. The shooting just happened yesterday. It takes a long time to piece all the clues together. This is reality, not a game, not a tv show, but reality where things are slow.
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Just guessing but he killed his mother then students, he could have been jealous of the attention his mother was naturally giving to her students. I had a friend who's mother was a psychologist and she was seriously messed up over how much attention and time she spent on her patients.
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His mother wasn't a teacher at that school. She had apparently done some volunteer work there a while back, but she was generally unknown by the school community. There was really not connection between Adam and the school.
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Really?

How the feck did he get in then?

Also.. ok if it wasn't Adam but a 'pay back' for his Father then why not off the family.. why involve a random school where the Wife once volunteered?
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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Sirhan Sirhan was a little screwy. So was Hinckley. Any others you can remember? Being screwy to begin with doesn't mean you can't be worked with and gives a good plausible deniability. You can't say for certain he wasn't one.

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