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MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?

 
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Where is the security camera footage?

This school must have had security cameras.
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Where is the security camera footage?

This school must have had security cameras.
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And if they did, you think it would be shown?

WTF? Are you that much of a moron?
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The security footage is a good point, I almost guarantee that there is a cover-up here because you know there would be... at least... footage of him walking into the school played on MSM repeatedly. Are you telling me they have a lock-down and a buzz-in but no security camera at the door?
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Re: MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?
Just guessing but he killed his mother then students, he could have been jealous of the attention his mother was naturally giving to her students. I had a friend who's mother was a psychologist and she was seriously messed up over how much attention and time she spent on her patients.
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His mother wasn't a teacher at that school. She had apparently done some volunteer work there a while back, but she was generally unknown by the school community. There was really not connection between Adam and the school.
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Really?

How the feck did he get in then?

Also.. ok if it wasn't Adam but a 'pay back' for his Father then why not off the family.. why involve a random school where the Wife once volunteered?
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It is speculation on my part, the father's involvement (as is this whole thread, speculation). Adam could have been chosen as a dupe with or without his father's connections. The real motive was to ram through gun-control laws. To do that, a crime was needed. A dupe was needed to blame the crime on. Adam was an easy fall-guy. See how easily people accept that someone a bit 'off' would do this (even though logically it does not makes sense that he would become a sharp-shooter and kill over 2 dozen people, including his mother). The mother's connection to the school is so minor as to be inconsequential. The purpose was to kill children in order to create such a mood of horror in the US that taking away citizens' guns would be welcomed rather than opposed. Bet if you did a poll today, you'd find that the majority (yes, the majority) of Americans would now welcome being robbed of their second amendment.
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Where is the security camera footage?

This school must have had security cameras.
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And if they did, you think it would be shown?

WTF? Are you that much of a moron?
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There would be shots of him entering the school, if nothing else. And no, I'm not a moron.
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Where is the security camera footage?

This school must have had security cameras.
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And if they did, you think it would be shown?

WTF? Are you that much of a moron?
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There would be shots of him entering the school, if nothing else. And no, I'm not a moron.
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You act like a moron when on GLP, then.
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This is the result of our lack of courage in facing the truth about 911. The result of 911 was the creation of the security state, to justify their continued existence they need to attack the citizens.
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That's right. Keep the sheeple scared. Take away their weapons for their own safety.

"You are safer without weapons." That's the indoctrination point here.

Those who wish to disarm the American public will stop at nothing to accomplish their goal, including murdering six-year-olds in cold blood and blaming it on a mildly retarded young man with no history of violence.

Adam, I believe, was innocent.
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Where is the security camera footage?

This school must have had security cameras.
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And if they did, you think it would be shown?

WTF? Are you that much of a moron?
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There would be shots of him entering the school, if nothing else. And no, I'm not a moron.
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You act like a moron when on GLP, then.
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Actually, on GLP, I would be a "moran".

Speculating on a possible motive (or lack of one) hardly makes me either a moron or a moran.
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And if they did, you think it would be shown?

WTF? Are you that much of a moron?
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There would be shots of him entering the school, if nothing else. And no, I'm not a moron.
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You act like a moron when on GLP, then.
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Actually, on GLP, I would be a "moran".

Speculating on a possible motive (or lack of one) hardly makes me either a moron or a moran.
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When you use silence as an argument, it most certainly does.
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Re: MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?
So.. does this Adam have a Facebook page? The others did.

how did he learn to shoot so accurately? I mean I get that it isn't that hard to get your target when they are all huddled in one corner but there was only one wounded?

How big are the weapons he used? Anyone have any links to see examples?

How did he get them all in to the building and why the hell was he let in?

And yeah.. I wonder if there is any CCTV.. not of the actual event but of him entering.
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There would be shots of him entering the school, if nothing else. And no, I'm not a moron.
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You act like a moron when on GLP, then.
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Actually, on GLP, I would be a "moran".

Speculating on a possible motive (or lack of one) hardly makes me either a moron or a moran.
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When you use silence as an argument, it most certainly does.
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What are you talking about? Absence of available evidence does not preclude the existence of said evidence. All we have to go on (given what we are being spoon-fed by the MSM) in asserting that this presumed criminal does not fit the profile of the crime is common sense and logic. Is that what you perceive as 'silence'?
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Re: MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?
What motive would the TBTB have?
9/11 had a motive that was put into action immediately, but this?
"Guy snaps for no reason" is easier to swallow than "government kills a bunch of kids for no reason".
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Let's not forget......
The BUSHMASTER Assualt Rifle was found in the vehicle. It is likely he never used it.
Now the question is: How did he become an expert Pistol marksman?
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So.. does this Adam have a Facebook page? The others did.

how did he learn to shoot so accurately? I mean I get that it isn't that hard to get your target when they are all huddled in one corner but there was only one wounded?

How big are the weapons he used? Anyone have any links to see examples?

How did he get them all in to the building and why the hell was he let in?

And yeah.. I wonder if there is any CCTV.. not of the actual event but of him entering.
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Thank God someone is seeing past the crocodile tears and heart-tugging photos.

Excellent questions, AC.

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You act like a moron when on GLP, then.
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Actually, on GLP, I would be a "moran".

Speculating on a possible motive (or lack of one) hardly makes me either a moron or a moran.
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When you use silence as an argument, it most certainly does.
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What are you talking about? Absence of available evidence does not preclude the existence of said evidence. All we have to go on (given what we are being spoon-fed by the MSM) in asserting that this presumed criminal does not fit the profile of the crime is common sense and logic. Is that what you perceive as 'silence'?
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Arguing from silence is what you have on here right now; people crying they don't get all the facts instantly so making up bullshit explanations. Who said there is no evidence? The point is the police are investigating; they don't just let everyone see everything as they do so. To make it into something it isn't is what morons do.
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What motive would the TBTB have?
9/11 had a motive that was put into action immediately, but this?
"Guy snaps for no reason" is easier to swallow than "government kills a bunch of kids for no reason".
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Gun control laws. Disarm the American people.
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Is this his Brother?

[link to www.facebook.com]

Man he must be going through hell.. his whole family gone AND all the children all down to his Brother :-(
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Actually, on GLP, I would be a "moran".

Speculating on a possible motive (or lack of one) hardly makes me either a moron or a moran.
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When you use silence as an argument, it most certainly does.
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What are you talking about? Absence of available evidence does not preclude the existence of said evidence. All we have to go on (given what we are being spoon-fed by the MSM) in asserting that this presumed criminal does not fit the profile of the crime is common sense and logic. Is that what you perceive as 'silence'?
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Arguing from silence is what you have on here right now; people crying they don't get all the facts instantly so making up bullshit explanations. Who said there is no evidence? The point is the police are investigating; they don't just let everyone see everything as they do so. To make it into something it isn't is what morons do.
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You may trust a 'police investigation', but I don't.

Speculation is not silence. You're free to disagree with my speculation, but it is hardly silence that prompts the speculation. How did the young man learn to shoot so accurately? What would his motive have been to kill the children? Why did he kill his mother? He had no history of violence, no criminal record. People don't just one day wake up and decide to mow down 26 people, and to do so with the skills of a sharp-shooter.
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Actually, on GLP, I would be a "moran".

Speculating on a possible motive (or lack of one) hardly makes me either a moron or a moran.
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When you use silence as an argument, it most certainly does.
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What are you talking about? Absence of available evidence does not preclude the existence of said evidence. All we have to go on (given what we are being spoon-fed by the MSM) in asserting that this presumed criminal does not fit the profile of the crime is common sense and logic. Is that what you perceive as 'silence'?
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Arguing from silence is what you have on here right now; people crying they don't get all the facts instantly so making up bullshit explanations. Who said there is no evidence? The point is the police are investigating; they don't just let everyone see everything as they do so. To make it into something it isn't is what morons do.
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Call me a 'moran' or 'moron', if it makes you feel better. I frankly don't care, and it still doesn't answer the main question: WHAT WOULD ADAM'S MOTIVE HAVE BEEN, AND WHERE DID HE LEARN TO SHOOT LIKE A PRO?
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This is the result of our lack of courage in facing the truth about 911. The result of 911 was the creation of the security state, to justify their continued existence they need to attack the citizens.
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That's right. Keep the sheeple scared. Take away their weapons for their own safety.

"You are safer without weapons." That's the indoctrination point here.

Those who wish to disarm the American public will stop at nothing to accomplish their goal, including murdering six-year-olds in cold blood and blaming it on a mildly retarded young man with no history of violence.

Adam, I believe, was innocent.
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actually that is even bolder and simpler that MKUlta, for the public will not dare to think that such behaviour is the only one to be expected from those who pretend they are there to help in their line of duty.
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So -- to sum up from contributions to this thread:

1. Adam had no motive to do this crime.

2. Adam had no professional training to carry out this crime.

3. There is no security footage of Adam entering the school, or at least non has been mentioned.

4. The perpetrator was masked so it could have been anyone.

5. Adam is dead so clearly he is unable to offer an excuse or motive. These can now be created on his behalf.

6. "How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?"

7. "The BUSHMASTER Assualt Rifle was found in the vehicle. It is likely he never used it. Now the question is: How did he become an expert Pistol marksman?"
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How's this sound. A bitter, autistic, asburger kid who had deep issues for years felt his mother loved her students more than him. So, he hatched plan to get his revenge.
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How's this sound. A bitter, autistic, asburger kid who had deep issues for years felt his mother loved her students more than him. So, he hatched plan to get his revenge.
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Wow, you seem to know a lot about this guy. Can't wait to read the rest of your additions to this thread. Sounds like you have inside knowledge.
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The only motives that people are offering are that he was slightly mentally challenged and that he might have gone off his meds. Fine -- people do commit crimes when they go off their meds, but that's usually when they already have a history of criminal or violent behavior, and Adam has no such history.

So the mentally-challenged-and-off-his-meds motive does not hold water. Nor does it explain his choice of target (the children).
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How's this sound. A bitter, autistic, asburger kid who had deep issues for years felt his mother loved her students more than him. So, he hatched plan to get his revenge.
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The children were not her students and she was not a teacher. Even so, it still doesn't explain how he learned to shoot like a pro.
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There doesn't always have be a motive.

Some people just want to see the world burn.
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Having aspergers, I wonder if he was ever a part of the gifted and talented program at that school. That would explain killing the psychologist and other teachers, and perhaps the children which he may have felt were "tainted" like him by their manipulation. There is a lot of weird mind control stuff that goes down in those programs, so I would also tend to agree with the earlier comment regarding MKUltra.
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Casting Adam as the villain because he was somehow mentally 'off' is a convenient excuse, but it still doesn't explain his accuracy with guns and it still doesn't give him a motive. I DO NOT BUY THAT HE WAS AN OPERATIVE THAT WAS PROGRAMMED TO KILL, anymore than I buy that there's a Santa Claus or Easter Bunny.

I believe Adam was innocent. I do not believe he was the killer. I believe he was set up, and I believe he was murdered by the real killer(s). I have no proof to back up my beliefs other than to assert that the facts, as presented by the mainstream media, do not add up, and that Adam being innocent makes more sense than Adam being guilty.

Without a motive, there is no crime. Adam had no history or violence and no reason to gun down a roomful of children, leaving no wounded, just clean kills.
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Learn how to use comma's retard!
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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you underestimate the multiple personalities that can be developed within MKUltra project.
And their is mother in the picture too, RIP.
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The young man was Autistic and considered to be borderline retarded. You are stretching it here with this 'multiple personalities' premise. It's a nice excuse, but it just doesn't wash with me. You can only work with the material you have. Adam was not 'MK Ultra' material.
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He wasn't borderline retarded.
He was an honors student who a friend called "almost a genius"
He may have been on the spectrum like most with Aspergers are but it didn't make him "borderline mentally retarded"

One thing that did occur to me , is that he and his mother lived on a huge isolated property and she had guns.
So who's to say he didn't take them out to practice long before now???

I'm right into the nonsensical stuff of this but there are some things that are said that can quite easily explained.
Other bits of the puzzle, absolutely not.
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There doesn't always have be a motive.

Some people just want to see the world burn.
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Really? And at the same time, just 'wanting to see the world burn', they also learn to shoot 26 people like a seasoned pro?

And this all happens out of the blue?

You can buy it if you want, but I don't.
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So -- to sum up from contributions to this thread:

1. Adam had no motive to do this crime.

2. Adam had no professional training to carry out this crime.

3. There is no security footage of Adam entering the school, or at least non has been mentioned.

4. The perpetrator was masked so it could have been anyone.

5. Adam is dead so clearly he is unable to offer an excuse or motive. These can now be created on his behalf.

6. "How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?"

7. "The BUSHMASTER Assualt Rifle was found in the vehicle. It is likely he never used it. Now the question is: How did he become an expert Pistol marksman?"
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1. Motive was to have the ultimate FUCK YOU to his mother.

2. You don't need professional trai ing to do what he did. It's not like he pulled some Jason Bourne shit.

3. Alot of schools don't have cameras, especially small town schools in New England and the Mid West. It's the big schools that have a history of violence that record things.

4. Of course he wore a mask, he wanted to get away with it and not be identified.

5. Dead men tell no tales. It means nothing.

6. The guns belonged to his mother. He killed her and took them to the school. There he shot the window out of a locked door and reached in and unlocked it.

7. Who is calling this tard an expert pistol marksman? He was in a closed room full of kids. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Not like he was picking off kids in the playground with the bushmaster from 300 yards scoring headshots on every one.

You're going to have to do much better than that if you want to convince me that this was anything more than a fucked up kid.
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