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MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?

 
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How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?
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and..... has anyone said he goes target practice or to the range and specifically 22 children killed as well as 22 children slashed in China!
Yes...this is all adding up!!!
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I posted this on the other thread:

Like many of you, I was glued to the television yesterday as the "information" on this horrible event became public. BEFORE the name of the supposed "gunman" was announced on live television, we were repetitively told that he was 20 years old- over and over on multiple different "news" networks. Then we were (incorrectly) given his name as "Ryan" Lanza. More than ninety minutes passed before we were told that the gunman's identity was incorrect and was really "Adam" Lanza. The "error" was due to the fact that Adam was in possession of Ryan's ID.
So HOW did the Media know that the "gunman" was 20 years old while at that very time they were told the Gunman was "Ryan" Lanza? Bigger question- How did the "information" source to the media know that the "gunman" was 20 years old at the same time that they believed the gunman was 24 year old Ryan Lanza? There's one obvious answer to this troubling question that I will save for a followup post. I'm interested in the opinions of some of the excellent minds on this thread. Shills and trolls need not apply.
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Excellent point. The PTB actually aren't all that clever, just brutal and ruthless. They screw up all the time, and when they're caught in their lies, they lie some more to cover it up.
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No one wants to think TPTB are up to the same old tricks, especially in this case. However, you have brought up valid points for all of us who investigated and are familiar with the on goings of 911. So beware people. I am not a bibletard but remember it says we will all be deceived during this time.

I just saw Rudy Guilliani on TV talking about this shooting and it turned my stomach because I know he is aware of what really occurred on 911.
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The PTB would not think twice about mowing down 20 children and a handful of adults and blaming it on some misfit computer geek, any more than they thought twice about obliterating the twin towers and the 3,000 people in them. It's all towards a 'higher agenda', and the collateral damage is just that -- collateral damage. For people who've suppressed their empathy and conscience, the ends easily justify the means. If slaughtering 20 children can justify disarming the American public and making them generally more compliant through fear, then so be it.

Rudy Guilliani makes my stomach turn at the best of times. I have not been able to see him without feeling squeamish since 9/11.
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^^^^Yuuuuuup^^^^
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So many co-incidences between this and the Australian Martin Bryant case. Both classed as clinacally mentally uncapable. Brant had aspergus, Adam had autism. \

Both were not trained in military type weapons yet seem to have killed numerous people with seemingly pin point accuracy?

Both in my mind are/were government propaganda to bring in new gun laws. Which was successful here in Australia. If you read into the bryant case, new gun laws were being brought in before this even happened. It would have taken 12-18 months to bring in these new laws. But then BINGO we have a killer on the loose in Port Arthur. Then these new laws are literally brought in overnight???

Suspicious or just a co-incidence??? you decide
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I agree with you, Ozzie. My heart aches for Adam as much as it does for the children and the other adults murdered. The more I hear about this horrible event, the more staged it appears to me. The MSM will drive home their message about how guns are getting into the wrong hands and how the public needs to be protected from this, and the sheep will bow and bleat and lay down and roll over, and there goes the second amendment.
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[Updated at 1:12 p.m. ET] Investigators have been told that Adam Lanza had some sort of altercation with some people at the school a few days before the shooting, a law enforcement official told CNN's Carol Cratty. The official did not know the nature of the altercation or who was involved in it with Lanza.
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[Updated at 1:12 p.m. ET] Investigators have been told that Adam Lanza had some sort of altercation with some people at the school a few days before the shooting, a law enforcement official told CNN's Carol Cratty. The official did not know the nature of the altercation or who was involved in it with Lanza.
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Yes, hearsay. Not surprising that a rumor of an 'altercation' is all they've got. Not surprising that the people involved in said 'altercation' are now all dead, so it can't be verified.
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[Updated at 1:12 p.m. ET] Investigators have been told that Adam Lanza had some sort of altercation with some people at the school a few days before the shooting, a law enforcement official told CNN's Carol Cratty. The official did not know the nature of the altercation or who was involved in it with Lanza.
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Wow, he's 20...did he want his elementary school records n they refused ? Or dating someone or applied for a job?


Or could be a lie to tie him in for certainty?
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[Updated at 1:12 p.m. ET] Investigators have been told that Adam Lanza had some sort of altercation with some people at the school a few days before the shooting, a law enforcement official told CNN's Carol Cratty. The official did not know the nature of the altercation or who was involved in it with Lanza.
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Wow, he's 20...did he want his elementary school records n they refused ? Or dating someone or applied for a job?


Or could be a lie to tie him in for certainty?
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You need to learn to recognize BS when you read it. This supposed report from an anonymous LE 'official' is clearly BS.
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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I have a nephew that has the same condition the shooter is supposed have and it's possible, I'm telling you!
At 3, my nephew who was diagnose with retardation could make levels for the game Doom and when his dad password protected his computer he was able to pull the cover off after unscrewing the screws, pull the 2032 battery out and reset the password to default just so he could play Doom & Duke Nukem 3d at 3am! So people are mentally retarded in certain instances may not be able to function totally by themselves (washing, cooking or working) but they CAN be conditioned to do things.
I think it was a MK-Ultra OP, after all the Black OPS video game is merely training for that type of thing isn't it?

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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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I have a nephew that has the same condition the shooter is supposed have and it's possible, I'm telling you!
At 3, my nephew who was diagnose with retardation could make levels for the game Doom and when his dad password protected his computer he was able to pull the cover off after unscrewing the screws, pull the 2032 battery out and reset the password to default just so he could play Doom & Duke Nukem 3d at 3am! So people are mentally retarded in certain instances may not be able to function totally by themselves (washing, cooking or working) but they CAN be conditioned to do things.
I think it was a MK-Ultra OP, after all the Black OPS video game is merely training for that type of thing isn't it?

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Adam was not 'retarded', as earlier media reports portrayed him to be. He was actually an honor student. Your nephew sounds cute. Adam was no operative, just a dupe being used for nefarious purposes.
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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you underestimate the multiple personalities that can be developed within MKUltra project.
And their is mother in the picture too, RIP.
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The young man was Autistic and considered to be borderline retarded. You are stretching it here with this 'multiple personalities' premise. It's a nice excuse, but it just doesn't wash with me. You can only work with the material you have. Adam was not 'MK Ultra' material.
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borderline retarded? where did you get that.

I've read comments by people that knew him saying he was a genius.
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Has there been ANY mention of this kid being under psychiatric care, other than a vague mention by someone (his brother maybe?) about a "mental disorder"?
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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you underestimate the multiple personalities that can be developed within MKUltra project.
And their is mother in the picture too, RIP.
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The young man was Autistic and considered to be borderline retarded. You are stretching it here with this 'multiple personalities' premise. It's a nice excuse, but it just doesn't wash with me. You can only work with the material you have. Adam was not 'MK Ultra' material.
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borderline retarded? where did you get that.

I've read comments by people that knew him saying he was a genius.
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The initial rumors were that Adam was mentally challenged in some way. Now it's been watered down, again by an anonymous source, to a "personality disorder" (whatever the heck that means. I'd say 99.9% of the people on this site have a "personality disorder").
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Has there been ANY mention of this kid being under psychiatric care, other than a vague mention by someone (his brother maybe?) about a "mental disorder"?
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Nothing. Not one person has come forward with that info. All you get are 'unnamed' sources (allegedly law enforcement officials) who speak "off the record" and claim he had some kind of 'personality disorder', without being specific.
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my theory is that the mother was the mastermind of
the whole thing (only she could have pulled it all together),
and at the last minute she got cold feet, but by that time
she had so thoroughly indoctrinated Adam to the primacy of
the mission that Adam got pissed and killed her (so she couldn't interfere)
and he then went to complete the mission.
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my theory is that the mother was the mastermind of
the whole thing (only she could have pulled it all together),
and at the last minute she got cold feet, but by that time
she had so thoroughly indoctrinated Adam to the primacy of
the mission that Adam got pissed and killed her (so she couldn't interfere)
and he then went to complete the mission.
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I don't say this very often, but you're either an idiot or a shill, and I'm tending towards the former. Your namesake is very inappropriate, in light of your 'theory'.
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my theory is that the mother was the mastermind of
the whole thing (only she could have pulled it all together),
and at the last minute she got cold feet, but by that time
she had so thoroughly indoctrinated Adam to the primacy of
the mission that Adam got pissed and killed her (so she couldn't interfere)
and he then went to complete the mission.
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I don't say this very often, but you're either an idiot or a shill, and I'm tending towards the former. Your namesake is very inappropriate, in light of your 'theory'.
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my theory is pure genius. what's yer problem?
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my theory is that the mother was the mastermind of
the whole thing (only she could have pulled it all together),
and at the last minute she got cold feet, but by that time
she had so thoroughly indoctrinated Adam to the primacy of
the mission that Adam got pissed and killed her (so she couldn't interfere)
and he then went to complete the mission.
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bump
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3 Suspects !

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Poor guy was a patsy. Mk ultra or "just" handled and pushed.. who knows.

same story in sikh temple. same story in aurora


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OR someone who is a butthurt little bitch and wants to be remembered and mark his influence on the world
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Yes, but even such a person does not snap overnight into such a cold-hearted, sharp-shooting monster.
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Astrologically speaking, Lanza had the Moon in Capricorn in his natal chart, along with Retrograde Uranus and Retrograde Neptune in conjunct with his natl Moon/Cap. According to Joanne Wickenburg who compiled collections on serial killers, most serials had this lunar position as it made them unable to feel or empathize with others - a classic indication of the serial killer. The feelings are cut off/disconnected within the psyche of the individual, enabling them to carry out heinous acts without even batting an eyelash.

On the day of the event, the transiting Moon, Mars and Pluto were all aligned in the sing of Capricorn, and conjuncting Lanza's natal Moon, R-Uranus (sudden accidents and upsets, sudden violence) and R-Neptune (illusions, delusions, mental states) which possibly triggered his own submerged and long held-in-check psychosis.

Famed monster, Adolf Hitler, has this same natal Sun/Taurus and Moon/Capricorn placements, and was the world's worst serial killer on record.

Astrology .... it works!

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3 Suspects !

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Poor guy was a patsy. Mk ultra or "just" handled and pushed.. who knows.

same story in sikh temple. same story in aurora


first actors exposed:

[link to wellaware1.com]
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Adam was d.o.a. at the school already, is my guess. He arrived in a kit bag carried by the real murderer.
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Thread: I am Adam Lanza WTF?

check out this thread. Adams allegedly put out his own vid explaining himself.
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3 Suspects !

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Poor guy was a patsy. Mk ultra or "just" handled and pushed.. who knows.

same story in sikh temple. same story in aurora


first actors exposed:

[link to wellaware1.com]
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Adam was d.o.a. at the school already, is my guess. He arrived in a kit bag carried by the real murderer.
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right. Adam's a small skinny guy. that would make sense.
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I realize this is a big news story, however I have avoided any details because of personal reasons.

But is this true? This is a sick crime and there has to be motive.

or...?
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Was that even his mother that they found? Where is her picture, and her family speaking out? Why all the secrecy?
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3 Suspects !

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Poor guy was a patsy. Mk ultra or "just" handled and pushed.. who knows.

same story in sikh temple. same story in aurora


first actors exposed:

[link to wellaware1.com]
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Adam was d.o.a. at the school already, is my guess. He arrived in a kit bag carried by the real murderer.
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right. Adam's a small skinny guy. that would make sense.
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Any info if he had to reload his gun?


I just cant believe that 26 people dont run around like crazy. I cant see how this guy who looks very weak wasnt somehow overwhelmed. He looks so weak a bunch of kids could trip him to the ground.
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my theory is that the mother was the mastermind of
the whole thing (only she could have pulled it all together),
and at the last minute she got cold feet, but by that time
she had so thoroughly indoctrinated Adam to the primacy of
the mission that Adam got pissed and killed her (so she couldn't interfere)
and he then went to complete the mission.
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^This
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ADAM DOES NOT FUCKING EXIST.. THEY TRIED TO NAIL RYAN BUT HE PROVED HE WASNT THERE

SO THEY MADE UP A FAKE BROTHER!!

SO FUCKING OBVIOUSSSS
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This is the biggest psy-op since 9/11. Kill a bunch of little kids and blame it on a geek. Hoodwink and traumatize the American public yet again while you strip them of their few remaining freedoms.

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