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MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?

 
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ADAM DOES NOT FUCKING EXIST.. THEY TRIED TO NAIL RYAN BUT HE PROVED HE WASNT THERE

SO THEY MADE UP A FAKE BROTHER!!

SO FUCKING OBVIOUSSSS
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You're delusional.
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Adam was innocent.

Justice for Adam!
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This is what Hitler had to say about telling lies, which is what the PTB, aided by mainstream media and now the general public, is doing regarding Adam's culpability:

"n the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying."
—Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]

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This is what Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda minister, had to say about lying:


If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

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Adam Lanza is innocent of this crime. May he rest in peace, far from those who would use his name and desecrate his memory for their own evil purposes.
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How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?
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and..... has anyone said he goes target practice or to the range and specifically 22 children killed as well as 22 children slashed in China!
Yes...this is all adding up!!!
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my theory is that the mother was the mastermind of
the whole thing (only she could have pulled it all together),
and at the last minute she got cold feet, but by that time
she had so thoroughly indoctrinated Adam to the primacy of the mission that Adam got pissed and killed her (so she couldn't interfere)
and he then went to complete the mission.
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Where is the security camera footage?

This school must have had security cameras.
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Hello this just happened yesterday there is still an investigation going on.Be patient,it will all come out.
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ADAM DOES NOT FUCKING EXIST.. THEY TRIED TO NAIL RYAN BUT HE PROVED HE WASNT THERE

SO THEY MADE UP A FAKE BROTHER!!

SO FUCKING OBVIOUSSSS
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You're delusional.
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you dont own any guns do you?.....just saying your starting to sound a little scary.
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I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but some of these theories are way out there. A few are even so scary it makes you wonder what kind of brain could think them up.

The kid was not a retard. He was not stupid in the least bit. It's likely his iq was higher than anyone on these boards. He had Aspergers Syndrome and a simple google search will tell you exactly what that is. Many people with Aspergers are much smarter than the average human.

For those of you saying that people don't just snap one day put yourself in this kids shoes. He grew up knowing that he wasn't like other kids. He probably had none or very few frIends and he was smart enough to realize that there was clearly something socially wrong with him that would forever inhibit him from leading a normal social life, having a girlfriend/ wife etc. His parents also divorced a few years ago and his brother moved to a different state and supposedly had not spoken to him in 2 years. True definition of a loner. This had likely been brewing for quite some time.

The news is saying that he had a possible argument the day before with 4 teachers at the school. No, they aren't all dead. One was not at school on Friday and is alive. Maybe some light can be shed on that angle soon, but like others have said, it's been a day. Not everything is going to come out that quickly.

For those wondering how he knew how to shoot guns and saying the guy was a skilled shooter, again look at the actual evidence. Every single victim had multiple gunshot wounds. It's not like he was pegging them off from long distance. He was at close range and shooting them until he was satisfied they were dead. Two kids actually dies on the way to the hospital. Multiple people who knew the family have gave interviews and stated that the mother often took target practice with bit sons Ryan and Adam. So clearly he's familiar with shooting a gun and loading ammo.


The kid led a shitty life and sometime this week he decided for whatever reason that this was what he was going to do. What he did yesterday was
disgusting, but these conspiracy theories are way out there on this one..
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He did not do it. There's a second shooter with a sub machine gun somewhere on the loose.
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Adam Lanza Fought With 4 Teachers At School Day Before Shooting

[link to hollywoodlife.com]
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His mother was preparing for 2012. That is why she stocked the guns. She often took him to the range with her to prepare him.
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Adam Lanza Fought With 4 Teachers At School Day Before Shooting

[link to hollywoodlife.com]
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TU for the link it gives some interesting tidbits. Still not sure what to make of all this.
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I am a visiting Chinese national. The news is horrifying and my heart goes out to the children and family.

I'd like to point out that the supposed gunner Adam Lanza had a missing girlfriend. Had the police located her yet? If he indeed had a girlfriend, it should strengthen some of the theories here that Adam may not be the shooter.

A day before the shooting, some guy in China brutalized 22 children with a kitchen knife. So I don't think gun control is the answer here. Be glad you have guns because in china, we don't have guns and that is how the government abuse civil rights and take away our rights slowly.
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How does a autistic kid get full body Armour a AR-15 Glock and Sig1 and let into a secured building with it?
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yeah one would think they also would not aim and after hearing the first shoot would go into fetal position and hummm.

I haven't read any media stories about it but from reading ppls threads it has taken over from the royal nurse story very quick and shut it up. how did he travel there and if he did im sure something would of distracted him, he would not know were he was going to start with unless someone was with him.
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As for the mask though, it could be purely pyscological reasons. Killing that many children is one horrendous act that got to impact a person deeply. A mask might serve as a shield to the psyche, as we know how intimately a Preston's face relates to the way he identify himself. He may not want to expose himself to this brutally on a subconscious level.

Anyways I am neither believing nor disbelieving any theories so far. Just not enough information.

There is also the matter of security footage. I don't think it will ever be released to the public, but might contain information crucial to the events transpired.
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Edit: person, not Preston. Stupid iPad.
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It has become apparent Adam's mother did not work for Sandy Hook, so why Sandy Hook. The shooter must have a dozen other choice of schools he could pick from.

Is it because of he conveniance of distance? What of the altercations?
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The title says it all. What was the young man's motive??? Why did he shoot up a room full of children and kill the principal and psychologist and other teachers?

The focus is on guns and the father's job at GE. But what was Adam's motive?

No crime is committed without a motive

Or was it even Adam who did it?????????

The killer was 'masked' and could have been anyone. The killer was a sharp-shooter.

Was Adam a sharp-shooter?

Remember the supposed perpetrators of 9/11, how their passports were conveniently found among the ashes on the streets of NYC. No-one with brains actually believes that the Middle Eastern 'boxcutters' were responsible for 9/11.

Could Adam not even have done this heinous deed, and yet have been used as a dupe?


I do not buy the "He was crazy and snapped" excuse. No-one gets that crazy all of a sudden or all of a sudden becomes a sharp-shooter. You have to be some kind of monster to walk into an elementary school and kill 20 children in cold blood. Was there any evidence that Adam was that kind of monster?

WHAT WAS ADAM'S MOTIVE FOR KILLING THE CHILDREN? If he didn't have one, he didn't do it.

And what about this 'second shooter' that early eye-witnesses reported?
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no motive no witnesses no bodies red herrings everywhere there was no crime!
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Apparently, he tried to buy rifle two days ago before the shooting took place, but he didn't get it because he didn't want to go through background check and the waiting process.

THAT might explain why he was carrying Ryan's ID.

A person could snap. Lets assume he has a certain disability or disorder, there could be a lot of blame going on in the family and perhaps guilts and buried hurts, worsened by the divorce no less. Imagine how vulnerable a person at teenage would feel and react to those burdens.

Years of hurt and living under stress of guilt and blame can really damage a person's view of the world around him. I would go on to assume he might still be trapped in a mentally frightened and "younger" state if he was indeed picked upon as victim of early years and continued to suffer for the years after. It could be evident by his fragil frame as signs of refusing or fearful of grown up. If we can learn more about his social life, there could possibly signs of withdrawal from social contacts and difficulty in coping with responsibilities. If that proves to be the case, it MIGHT explain his particular target choice as children, whom he could still consider to be his peers.

All of this is speculation. I know families are undergoing unspeakable trauma now, so again my hearts go out to them. But as bystanders, we are speculating a motive which is what I really want to know. The reason behind this madness and perhaps shedding some sensible lights into us as humanity.
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This is what Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda minister, had to say about lying:


If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

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And if you repeat many times it is a conspiracy theory, you are proving Hitler right.
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This is the biggest psy-op since 9/11. Kill a bunch of little kids and blame it on a geek. Hoodwink and traumatize the American public yet again while you strip them of their few remaining freedoms.
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Repeating this lie many times, ah?
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Unbalanced psyche combined with an early exposure to guns which is a very strong manifestion of power could also interact with the fragile and sensitive psyche at its teen years in unbalanced ways.

Actually, thinking along these lines, that just might be the reason his mother decided to expose her sons to guns and shooting as a way of manning up. Wasn't the kid a shy type? Was he fearful of others?

Nice people that meant well can make horribly wrong choices because they lack the appreciation for complexity and contradictions. I think understanding this kid, IF he was indeed the gunner, would require just that.
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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Where do you get "borderline mentally retarded" from?

The guy was supposedly highly intelligent, and maybe a "genius", according to at least one of his schoolmates.
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We do not now weather Adam was a shooter or not.
America is in Economical Decline, so the ELITES 1 percent is in danger of losing the ground. Making legislation for taking gun control is very logical act. Therefore suspicions of Sepptember 11 self inflicted scenario is very accurate assamtion.

Americans are the most targeted people. Brainwashed, ill informed. They beleive that Government is telling the truth, while the TRUTH IS THAT USA GOV. IS LED BY THE DARK CABAL.
THAT PRODUCES WARS, DEATHS, SUFFERINGS. CNN is there to keep the sheeps in line, brainwashing them into believing into crap.

Now I will tell you the Truth.

September 11 was an inside job, the same one as the Righstag Fire in Hitlers Germany.

AL QAEDA is a product of CIA, an asset that works for US elites interests.


US is helping Salafist Terrorist Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East which will evolve into ISLAMIC Califat, attacking Europe, in the Nostradamus Scenario.

US is helping RADICAL ISLAM , which will cut the heads of every different ideology, secularism, or different interpretation of Islam, or christians that live in the middle east.

US and its military industrial complex, is the major actor for producing WARS FROM YUGOSLAVIA TO SYRIA.



It is not coincidence that NAME OF THE SCHOOL WAS SANDY.
They (Satanical Masonic Cabal)are joking at their sheeps, which are confused and do not understand nothing.

Americans will pay one day for working for THE DARK CABAL.
FOR MAKING WORLD DEATH WAR TORN PLACE.
THERE WILL BE SANDY , ON MEGA SCALE.

THIS MASONIC SATANICAL CABAL, MUST BE DESTROYED, SO THE SHEEPS CAN BE FREE.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

If combined with my earlier speculations, I think this sums it all up.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

If combined with my earlier speculations, I think this sums it all up.
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Great, so now we know that people who are shy, quiet, socially awkward and don't have a Facebook are dangerous people who are probably mass murderers waiting to happen.

Oh wait....that describes me..........
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I am only a patsy...
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Yes, an MK Ultra operative would have been that kind of monster, to kill children in cold blood. But Adam was no such operative. I do not believe that someone described as being borderline mentally retarded would be capable of being trained as an operative. There is zero evidence supporting that he was or that he had any weapons training at all.
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you underestimate the multiple personalities that can be developed within MKUltra project.
And their is mother in the picture too, RIP.
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The young man was Autistic and considered to be borderline retarded. You are stretching it here with this 'multiple personalities' premise. It's a nice excuse, but it just doesn't wash with me. You can only work with the material you have. Adam was not 'MK Ultra' material.
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Lanza was in fact probably borderline GENIUS, far from being retarded. He was on the honor roll when he attended H.S. And we don't know exactly what he was afflicted with at all. Could have been Aspergers, many of whom are extremely intelligent as are many Autistic people. Many are also very creative and artistic. He could also have had some other affliction, mental illness and/or personality disorder. He could have been a sociopath/psychopath, in which case it's possible he committed the crime for no particular reason at all other than for his amusement, maybe to gain notoriety.

Your statement that no crimes are committed without a reason is completely false. There are simply crazy and even just evil people in the world.
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We do not now weather Adam was a shooter or not.
America is in Economical Decline, so the ELITES 1 percent is in danger of losing the ground. Making legislation for taking gun control is very logical act. Therefore suspicions of Sepptember 11 self inflicted scenario is very accurate assamtion.

Americans are the most targeted people. Brainwashed, ill informed. They beleive that Government is telling the truth, while the TRUTH IS THAT USA GOV. IS LED BY THE DARK CABAL.
THAT PRODUCES WARS, DEATHS, SUFFERINGS. CNN is there to keep the sheeps in line, brainwashing them into believing into crap.

Now I will tell you the Truth.

September 11 was an inside job, the same one as the Righstag Fire in Hitlers Germany.

AL QAEDA is a product of CIA, an asset that works for US elites interests.


US is helping Salafist Terrorist Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East which will evolve into ISLAMIC Califat, attacking Europe, in the Nostradamus Scenario.

US is helping RADICAL ISLAM , which will cut the heads of every different ideology, secularism, or different interpretation of Islam, or christians that live in the middle east.

US and its military industrial complex, is the major actor for producing WARS FROM YUGOSLAVIA TO SYRIA.



It is not coincidence that NAME OF THE SCHOOL WAS SANDY.
They (Satanical Masonic Cabal)are joking at their sheeps, which are confused and do not understand nothing.

Americans will pay one day for working for THE DARK CABAL.
FOR MAKING WORLD DEATH WAR TORN PLACE.
THERE WILL BE SANDY , ON MEGA SCALE.

THIS MASONIC SATANICAL CABAL, MUST BE DESTROYED, SO THE SHEEPS CAN BE FREE.
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The US military complex serves the corporate elites of the US, and also the multinational corporate elites of the 'West' in general, including Europe and the UK. They more than anyone are responsible for keeping the world order as it is [wealthy, powerful western nations vs Russia, China, and everyone else].

The whole west including Europe and the UK are in decline economically, socially, politically, and have been for some time. The latest CIA assessment is by around 2030-2035 Asia will be economically and politically more powerful than the EU, North America COMBINED. The main problem with The West is we've become complacent, smug, spoiled and lazy. Not to mention hubris.
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Another interesting thing about Lanza is he was apparently afflicted with some condition that cause him to feel no physical pain. Even kids who played baseball with him said they were told to be careful around him because he could get hurt and he wouldn't know it.

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