The Reason Why the Media Can't Get Their Story Straight on the Mass Shooting | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 12/15/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :goldstar1::goldstar1::goldstar1::goldstar1::goldstar1: You said it perfectly. This is what has had me so enraged over the past 24+ hours. All we have to watch are "newsreaders". There is no real journalism anymore. They tell us one lie after another, and spread rumours of false facts by encompassing it with "so and so said".... Then, to make matters worse, they try to sensationlize everything, putting the kids on tv (WHICH REALLY PISSED ME OFF) right after it happened. How cold is that anyway? All for ratings. Then they open up for their evening talk shows, so they have talking head points and discuss the politics at hand....using this time when the nation is still down and soft and hurting over the loss of the innocent lives to push the political agenda of anti gun etc... It makes me want to puke. Today will be a fun ride because now is when they have had time to come up with all of the disgustingly sensationalized titles and nicknames for this story. We will see things like CHRISTMAS MASSACRE, or SIEGE AT SANDYBROOK or stupid shit like that. WHERE IS THE HONEST, non partisan journalism these days? Nowhere. its gone. |
Grimsun (OP) User ID: 26508846 United States 12/15/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry but no. I understand the concept of "believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see" so I respect your skepticism. However I do business on the eastern seaboard and one of my clients is in Newtown. Amazingly, I was actually speaking with her yesterday morning on the phone at about 11:15 EST that's how I found out about the event. Sorry but it's real. Sucks, I know. It's a very small community and everyone knows someone who was affected by this directly. Grimsun |
Grimsun (OP) User ID: 26508846 United States 12/15/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :goldstar1::goldstar1::goldstar1::goldstar1::goldstar1: Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey You said it perfectly. This is what has had me so enraged over the past 24+ hours. All we have to watch are "newsreaders". There is no real journalism anymore. They tell us one lie after another, and spread rumours of false facts by encompassing it with "so and so said".... Then, to make matters worse, they try to sensationlize everything, putting the kids on tv (WHICH REALLY PISSED ME OFF) right after it happened. How cold is that anyway? All for ratings. Then they open up for their evening talk shows, so they have talking head points and discuss the politics at hand....using this time when the nation is still down and soft and hurting over the loss of the innocent lives to push the political agenda of anti gun etc... It makes me want to puke. Today will be a fun ride because now is when they have had time to come up with all of the disgustingly sensationalized titles and nicknames for this story. We will see things like CHRISTMAS MASSACRE, or SIEGE AT SANDYBROOK or stupid shit like that. WHERE IS THE HONEST, non partisan journalism these days? Nowhere. its gone. Well put! Grimsun |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18681750 United States 12/15/2012 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure most of you have been as disgusted as I with how the MSM has handled this tragedy. Everything from the number of shooters, names, ages, who works where has been botched. These are basic facts that anyone who studied journalism would tell you are day 1 stuff every journalist should know not to screw up. There is just one problem... Quoting: Grimsun The media hasn't done real investigative journalism in so long that they don't know how! Or at the very least they are piss poor at it. Let's face it, there is no real independent media on TV or radio. Any time anyone tries to actually investigate something, they get blocked by politics. Who sponsors who, what backroom deals exist etc. This has been going on for a long time. This is the media that the public has told them it wanted. Through ratings and lowest common denominator reporting styles. This is the result. When it comes time to actually piece a story together in real time.. THEY CAN'T DO IT. Did anyone else notice they all just quote each other? "ABC is reporting that..." "We are being told that NY Post said that an info graphic on Facebook said..." We need to stop feeding the machine, turn off the TV, go outside, read a book. If we stop watching the muckrakers they will be out of a job. As for actual news.. We need good independent journalists that we can rely on who don't report to one of the big 6 companies. What is wrong with everyone? Stop making excuses for them! It's not brain surgery to do a little good investigative journalism! This is just crap spewed to us on purpose! |
DOT 2 DOT User ID: 24338672 United States 12/15/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MASS shootings = BLACK MASS? Christ MASS? --------- The Black Mass combines various elements: - belief in a pagan deity stigmatized by Christians as the Devil, - use of the Mass for material ends, - and parodies of orthodox Christian ritual. The Black Mass is a magical ceremony and inversion or parody of the Catholic Mass that was indulged in ostensibly for the purpose of mocking God and worshipping the devil; a rite that was said to involve human sacrifice as well as obscenity and blasphemy of horrific proportions. The origin of the belief in the Black, or Satanic, Mass goes back to medieval magic and witchcraft, yet no one really knows the early history of this magical act, for there exists no single reliable, first-hand description. A witch who said she was present described a Black Mass at a sabbath in France in 1594. She claimed that the ceremony had taken place on St. John's Eve in a field with about sixty people present. The celebrant wore a long black cloak devoid of the customary cross, and his assistants were two girls; while a slice of turnip, black (either stained or putrid), was used instead of consecrated bread. [link to www.satansheaven.com] Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill ************ It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand. Mike Royko |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15371682 United States 12/15/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I find odd is all the people who make comments like, "give it a rest man, there have been kids killed" or"cant you give the conspiracy a rest for one day" They get caught up in the Media reporting and don't realize it, so when the obvious questions arise they get hostile and attack the people asking questions. This is a conspiracy forum and most of us on here don't believe anything at face value. It is a very sad day that they stooped to this level to get their agenda passed. This has for the most ended the great gun control debate. If we are going to stop this corrupt government from pulling crap like this, it would have had to be done years ago |
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Grimsun (OP) User ID: 26508846 United States 12/15/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though everything you said is true, obviously YOU STILL WATCH TV. Quoting: Lilac.Nights Then you complain, about what YOU SAW ON THE TV. Then, you urge people to turn their tv's off ROFL I do not have a tv anymore. Negative... Haven't had cable since 2008. I can't help but get it spewed at me at work though. I don't watch tv I just read and hear people talk. Grimsun |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14408911 United States 12/15/2012 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure most of you have been as disgusted as I with how the MSM has handled this tragedy. Everything from the number of shooters, names, ages, who works where has been botched. These are basic facts that anyone who studied journalism would tell you are day 1 stuff every journalist should know not to screw up. There is just one problem... Quoting: Grimsun The media hasn't done real investigative journalism in so long that they don't know how! Or at the very least they are piss poor at it. Let's face it, there is no real independent media on TV or radio. Any time anyone tries to actually investigate something, they get blocked by politics. Who sponsors who, what backroom deals exist etc. This has been going on for a long time. This is the media that the public has told them it wanted. Through ratings and lowest common denominator reporting styles. This is the result. When it comes time to actually piece a story together in real time.. THEY CAN'T DO IT. Did anyone else notice they all just quote each other? "ABC is reporting that..." "We are being told that NY Post said that an info graphic on Facebook said..." We need to stop feeding the machine, turn off the TV, go outside, read a book. If we stop watching the muckrakers they will be out of a job. As for actual news.. We need good independent journalists that we can rely on who don't report to one of the big 6 companies. What is wrong with everyone? I totally agree. With all the popularity of CSI and other crime shows on TV, there would be such a market for investigative journalism, the opposite of the Nancy Grace type of pinning it on the most sensational suspect and twisting the facts to frame them. Instead, investigation and lining up true facts, Sherlock Holmes style, will always fascinate people, and the reason why news media are not doing any of that is because of the reasons you give. Instead of giving us facts, all the media talks about is the emotions, how do we feel, how did you feel, what was your first thought. Not what did you see, what happened, what did you do? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18145359 United States 12/15/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our local and national media are a complete joke. Getting the weather and traffic are nice but getting the news? Forget it. Every station has turned into nothing more than a boring talk show. The importance they center their programs on are sports and the sport star criminals, gardening, Hollywood and shopping. |
Resister User ID: 1461638 United States 12/15/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post OP. The "news" media don't report facts anymore. They are propaganda machines that don't know what to do with or care about basic honest facts. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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DOT 2 DOT User ID: 24338672 United States 12/15/2012 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where's the girlfriend? Has she turned up yet? It can't be that hard to track her down, unless she's lying dead somewhere. Obviously she knows something! Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill ************ It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand. Mike Royko |
Grimsun (OP) User ID: 26508846 United States 12/15/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Local CT media did well on this up Quoting: RDprofessor to the point where the FBI took over all dissemination of news. Just like the CT police did a good job up and until the FBI took over. Local journalist actually do some investigative journalism.. as long as they don't step on the wrong toes or try and uncover too much truth about the wrong thing. Grimsun |
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DOT 2 DOT User ID: 24338672 United States 12/15/2012 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MASS shootings = BLACK MASS? Christ MASS? Quoting: DOT 2 DOT --------- The Black Mass combines various elements: - belief in a pagan deity stigmatized by Christians as the Devil, - use of the Mass for material ends, - and parodies of orthodox Christian ritual. The Black Mass is a magical ceremony and inversion or parody of the Catholic Mass that was indulged in ostensibly for the purpose of mocking God and worshipping the devil; a rite that was said to involve human sacrifice as well as obscenity and blasphemy of horrific proportions. The origin of the belief in the Black, or Satanic, Mass goes back to medieval magic and witchcraft, yet no one really knows the early history of this magical act, for there exists no single reliable, first-hand description. A witch who said she was present described a Black Mass at a sabbath in France in 1594. She claimed that the ceremony had taken place on St. John's Eve in a field with about sixty people present. The celebrant wore a long black cloak devoid of the customary cross, and his assistants were two girls; while a slice of turnip, black (either stained or putrid), was used instead of consecrated bread. [link to www.satansheaven.com] Strangeness... from 2010 Australia ........ “This coming Saturday, November 27th, a satanic “Black Mass” celebration is to occur at Newtown RSL – it is simply disgraceful. The advertising which features the insignia of the Church of Satan and an inverted crucifix is encouraging people to come and partake in an “unholy spell to be cast upon the city of Sydney” featuring the “ultimate of soul possessing occult revelations…unbridled blasphemy… [and] a union of all things unholy”. [link to www.bravewords.com] Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill ************ It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand. Mike Royko |
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