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They're screaming for more gun control but we better ban knives, cars, ladders, & beds too!

 
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As I said earlier, you don't head an outcry about car control because drinking and driving is already banned. What do you idiots not get about this?

You cannot deny the role of guns here--if this turd didn't have access to one he wouldn't have been able to inflict this harm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


really???

Be realistic for a second please...

This psycho attacked CHILDREN aged 5 to 10 years old!!

If he had a bow and arrow, a rock, a hammer, a knife... anything...

he would still have killed a lot of CHILDREN!
 Quoting: SE


Nope, because you can handle more easily a guy with a rock or a knife.
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And you think teachers worried about protecting the children in their care would "handle" a hell-bent psycho??

Sorry. Nope. They'd die trying.
 Quoting: SE


Delusion
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People need to realize "gun laws" and "gun control" ONLY affect the law-abiding and responsible people and not the criminals and whack-jobs. Do you really believe a criminal is going to say, "oh no! They banned my favorite firearm! Now I'll have to use a different one!" Gun laws and gun control only moves firearms out of the hands of the citizens and into the hands of the criminal elements. The more gun laws on the books, the higher crime rates go. Why? Because the citizens don't have the firepower to defend their family, home, etx from the less-than-desirables.
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Your post makes one huge assumption: that those who commit these acts are 'criminals. 'Problem there is this kid was not on the criminal fringe. He was a kid with a learning disability from all accounts. He was in no way a hardened 'criminal'. If his mother didn't have the guns and he had no other way of procuring them for himself (without going deep into the criminal underground) then this tragedy would have never happened.
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The more gun laws on the books, the higher crime rates go.
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It's a known fact the US have one of the lowest crime rate in the whole world cool2

Delusion.
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12/16/2012 06:27 AM
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I'll digress and say 9/11 was carried out by Muslim Arabs who lived in caves if it means banning airplanes... and rolling out the TR3B and other UFO craft.
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really???

Be realistic for a second please...

This psycho attacked CHILDREN aged 5 to 10 years old!!

If he had a bow and arrow, a rock, a hammer, a knife... anything...

he would still have killed a lot of CHILDREN!
 Quoting: SE


Nope, because you can handle more easily a guy with a rock or a knife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


And you think teachers worried about protecting the children in their care would "handle" a hell-bent psycho??

Sorry. Nope. They'd die trying.
 Quoting: SE


Delusion
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Not that I don't agree!

Just that America is different creature all-together.

And to be realistic in the particular context of America...
Some teacher would die trying...
the insurance company would rule that they weren't going to pay life insurance death benefits to the family because the teacher did something they shouldnt have...
and no other teacher would risk their ass and their family again in the future.

The school district would be sued by the family. Then every school would order and train teachers to avoid engaging psychos in the future.

"Welcome to America"

Last Edited by SE on 12/16/2012 06:32 AM
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It would be very interesting to compare the number of people who effectively used their guns to defend their family against a home intruder, versus the number of domestic accident linked to guns, the number of murders not related to high criminality, and the numbers of shooting sprees.
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Nope, because you can handle more easily a guy with a rock or a knife.
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And you think teachers worried about protecting the children in their care would "handle" a hell-bent psycho??

Sorry. Nope. They'd die trying.
 Quoting: SE


Delusion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Not that I don't agree!

Just that America is different creature all-together.

And to be realistic in the particular context of America...
Some teacher would die trying...
the insurance company would rule that they weren't going to pay life insurance death benefits to the family because the teacher did something they shouldnt have...
and no other teacher would risk their ass and their family again in the future.

The school district would be sued by the family. Then every school would order and train teachers to avoid engaging psychos in the future.

"Welcome to America"
 Quoting: SE


If I was a teacher and a psycho came in my class with a knife, I would split open his skull with my chair.

Your example with the rock/hammer/knife Versus guns makes no sense.
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It's far more likely that the end result will be that the already record gun sales go through the roof than decline!

Same as it is in the USA with all previous mass shootings.

Watch that legislation to arm school executives isn't the real end result of this!

The gun industry is MEGA-Billions of Dollar$!

They'll buy whatever politicians they need to squash it.
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If I was a teacher and a psycho came in my class with a knife, I would split open his skull with my chair.

Your example with the rock/hammer/knife Versus guns makes no sense.
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Are you a teacher??

What you "would" do and what a school district and their insurance companies and teachers unions...etc... will allow, is something all-together different!

You got to remember that USA schools go into LOCKDOWN when there's a direct threat to the children.

Teachers barricade themselves into their classrooms.

A young small female teacher with 30 kids in her class is going to die versus an attacker with a knife, crossbow, hammer, axe, rock...etc

Then the 30 kids would die horribly at the hands of the psycho.

Sorry, but it's true and you know it.

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Just like all wanna-be controllers; they ignore the cause and address the symptoms. Just look at big pharma; they can't cure anything!

When you ban guns and knives, people will just start killing with rocks. Then what? I don't think you can ban rocks.
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lol yeh but you can stop someone killing an entire class with rocks with a guns you can kill alot more people alot faster. funniest thing ive heard is on the news people saying the teachers should of had guns lol some people will never learn.
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The more gun laws on the books, the higher crime rates go.
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It's a known fact the US have one of the lowest crime rate in the whole world cool2

Delusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Washington D.C. not too long ago lifted it's gun ban. Crime went down. Coincidence? You think so, but you're wrong.

Why does crime go up when people cannot protect themselves?
Let me rephrase the question for you.
Why does crime go down when people are able to protect themselves?

Do you not understand history at all? Defenseless/weak people and nations have always been attacked and/or conquered.
Attempts from weak, ego-fueled people and nations to conquer stronger nations have also occurred, but why do you suppose the "stronger" nations survived? Because they gave in to the weak fools? Or because they had weapons to say fuck off?

And let's not forget "crime" is a legal term. What is right and what is wrong may or may not fall under legality depending on the subject matter. So while Portugal, which has legalized all drugs, has zero drug "crime", the US might have a lot if you're looking at a statistic that is based against the US's definitions of crimes compared to, say Portugal.
So we do have a lot of "crime", but if that means the perpetrators are bad people then Portugal must be full of villains, corrupt people, mobs, gangs, and a safe haven for the world's criminals?

Please, i hope none of you talks about "crime rate", that is based on laws, written words. If a country outlaws breathing, eating, i'm sure their country will have 100% "crime rate".
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This is a stupid gun lobby propaganda argument which gets away from the real issue.

The fact is, the US is flooded with guns. That isn't going to change. It's far too easy for criminals to get their hands on them whether they are banned or not.

The damage has already been done. The only way to be 'safe' in America is to be armed yourself.

The gun lobby is powerful, they want you living in fear and paranoia. You have been brainwashed into believing you 'need' guns and it has worked. This thread is evidence of that.
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They'll buy whatever politicians they need to squash it.
 Quoting: SE


That's the problem.

The politicians and the media are bought in the US, and the people are gullible enough to believe their arguments even if they defy any logic (that's also made easy because education in the US isn't good and people aren't encouraged to be free thinkers). Exactly like when US tobacco companies were "proving" that cigarettes don't kill.

This is also why the US are always the latest to recognize the great issues of our time, because big corporations don't want it to happen. They denied global warming even if proven, they wouldn't sign treaties to ban anti-personel mines, they would even protect banks when they fuck with the people and refuse regulation of the sector.

My country makes money by selling a lot of guns to the US, but honestly, I wouldn't cry if a few people at FN lost their jobs because the US would finally sign a gun-control law.
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A young small female teacher with 30 kids in her class is going to die versus an attacker with a knife, crossbow, hammer, axe, rock...etc

Then the 30 kids would die horribly at the hands of the psycho.

Sorry, but it's true and you know it.
 Quoting: SE


Bullshit and the China story proves it.

These kids did not die.
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they want you living in fear and paranoia.
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A history of violence. A culture of fear.

Story of the American politics and economy.
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i wonder how many dads kill their kids with pressure washers or other high tech gadgetry on a daily basis, I bet it's more than 20......


they're in my prayers, not these demons from connecticut

Understand this kid is stuck in that school from here to eternity, it is a way point as delegated by god himself, every school in america is built over divine, holy, sacred ground, as delegated by god, he has demanded very strange things. Only very few of his angels can be reached to carry out his tasks, which are divine and holy, and which satan would make seem so dark, twisted, murderous and awful that the world would have no choice but to put it's saints in prison for carrying out god's will.

satan works on the psychology of the people.


burn a witch or false prophet get 50 points, straight from god.

Thanks for playing, gtfo our planet you pigs.

THIS IS A SPIRITUAL REALM, IF YOU ARE OF FLESH YOU WILL BE....


dealt with, and possibly eaten.
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Washington D.C. not too long ago lifted it's gun ban. Crime went down. Coincidence? You think so, but you're wrong.

Why does crime go up when people cannot protect themselves?
Let me rephrase the question for you.
Why does crime go down when people are able to protect themselves?

Do you not understand history at all? Defenseless/weak people and nations have always been attacked and/or conquered.
Attempts from weak, ego-fueled people and nations to conquer stronger nations have also occurred, but why do you suppose the "stronger" nations survived? Because they gave in to the weak fools? Or because they had weapons to say fuck off?
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Sudan, Congo and many african nations suffering the rule of warlords would be an example of that.
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they want you living in fear and paranoia.
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A history of violence. A culture of fear.

Story of the American politics and economy.
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Sorry, we're just the only daughter of the royal family.. We're a bit of a whore. Ok, we're a lot whore. But if you don't like us, take it up with mummy.
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Do you not understand history at all? Defenseless/weak people and nations have always been attacked and/or conquered.
Attempts from weak, ego-fueled people and nations to conquer stronger nations have also occurred, but why do you suppose the "stronger" nations survived? Because they gave in to the weak fools? Or because they had weapons to say fuck off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


Typical response from an American who's education system hasn't thought him how wars work and how history was written.

Even your "strong" nation would stand no chance if the communist China (where people can't have gun) decided to invade you.
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they want you living in fear and paranoia.
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A history of violence. A culture of fear.

Story of the American politics and economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Sorry, we're just the only daughter of the royal family.. We're a bit of a whore. Ok, we're a lot whore. But if you don't like us, take it up with mummy.
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It's easy to blame your parents for your own life choices.
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We are hearing already after this horrendous shooting that we need "tough gun laws." But is that really the solution? There are a LOT of things that kill more people in the U.S. than guns. Take a look:

Homicides due to guns is 3.7 people per 100,000 people in U.S. (That's about 11,000 people.)

[link to www.cdc.gov]

China school knife attack wounds 23:

A man wielding a knife attacked students Friday at a school in central China, leaving 22 children and one adult injured, according to state-run media reports.

The attack occurred at the gate of an elementary school in the village of Chengping, in Henan Province. Police arrested the attacker, who they identified as local resident Min Yingjun, 36.

Children as young as six were among those hospitalized after the attack, suffering injuries including slashes to the ears and head.


[link to www.cbsnews.com]


Cars in U.S. kill 40,000 people per year (guns 11,000)

Imagine a plane full of people crashing, killing everyone on board, every single day. That’s how many people die on America’s roads daily, says the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.
“Motor vehicle crashes in the United States result in more than 40,000 deaths per year,” says the Institute in the journal Injury Prevention. “That is, on each of the 6,209 consecutive days included in this study, an equivalent of a plane load or more of people died on the roads.”


Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
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Cars kill more people than grenades and rocket launchers. So... unban them! grenades and rocket launchers for everyone!
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A young small female teacher with 30 kids in her class is going to die versus an attacker with a knife, crossbow, hammer, axe, rock...etc

Then the 30 kids would die horribly at the hands of the psycho.

Sorry, but it's true and you know it.
 Quoting: SE


Bullshit and the China story proves it.

These kids did not die.
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1 example from A DIFFERENT freakin country!

We're talking about AMERICA not China!
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btw, the fallen can and do take form, as human, such is the case, you can identify them by their ears, which literally don't work, they must project their own reality to carry out god's will in the short time they have (50 years or less, which is a second to you creatures). So like, look for eardrums and beware. These motherfuckers are like neo on crack.

But here's the thing, God tried beyond all measure to learn how to fix you guys, for millenia, so that spirits and flesh bodies, who will not verify their existence, could peacefully coexist in this plane. YOU do not belong here, the best we can gather a scientist named marvin somehow shifted your frequency and you are stuck and literally meaningless. You don't even release upon death, save for the shitting of onesself.

Odds are you won't even be able to read this.
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Do you not understand history at all? Defenseless/weak people and nations have always been attacked and/or conquered.
Attempts from weak, ego-fueled people and nations to conquer stronger nations have also occurred, but why do you suppose the "stronger" nations survived? Because they gave in to the weak fools? Or because they had weapons to say fuck off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


Typical response from an American who's education system hasn't thought him how wars work and how history was written.

Even your "strong" nation would stand no chance if the communist China (where people can't have gun) decided to invade you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


A perfect and piss-poor example!

The Chinese COMMUNIST government would, because the populace is not armed, force them to invade another nation under penalty of death.
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A young small female teacher with 30 kids in her class is going to die versus an attacker with a knife, crossbow, hammer, axe, rock...etc

Then the 30 kids would die horribly at the hands of the psycho.

Sorry, but it's true and you know it.
 Quoting: SE


Bullshit and the China story proves it.

These kids did not die.
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1 example from A DIFFERENT freakin country!

We're talking about AMERICA not China!
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lol if someone got into a class room with a rock if you think for one second all the kids would die you are a moron so you think the kids would sit there waiting to be stoned several times each until they died lol really??? come on
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[link to www.naturalnews.com]

What about medication/drug control? If we don't fix the root cause, somebody would still come out swinging their samurai sword and decapitating another 20 kids in the future.
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A young small female teacher with 30 kids in her class is going to die versus an attacker with a knife, crossbow, hammer, axe, rock...etc

Then the 30 kids would die horribly at the hands of the psycho.

Sorry, but it's true and you know it.
 Quoting: SE


Bullshit and the China story proves it.

These kids did not die.
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1 example from A DIFFERENT freakin country!

We're talking about AMERICA not China!
 Quoting: SE


No, we are talking about the gun issue.

Why can't anyone defending gun owning use logic? Oh right, because it's not logical to claim that arming citizen would make them safer.
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A young small female teacher with 30 kids in her class is going to die versus an attacker with a knife, crossbow, hammer, axe, rock...etc

Then the 30 kids would die horribly at the hands of the psycho.

Sorry, but it's true and you know it.
 Quoting: SE


Bullshit and the China story proves it.

These kids did not die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


1 example from A DIFFERENT freakin country!

We're talking about AMERICA not China!
 Quoting: SE


lol if someone got into a class room with a rock if you think for one second all the kids would die you are a moron so you think the kids would sit there waiting to be stoned several times each until they died lol really??? come on
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also he would need a good supply of rocks lol unless everytime he throws it he's guns chase it down and pick it up to throw again lol some people crack me up
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btw you dumb creatures literally have the ability to fly through space in your flesh bodies, but somehow have forgotten because your ability to imagine has rendered you....retarded.

One man one day decided to program himself to believe himself mortal, because he could no longer appreciate himself in the mirror, thinking he would somehow, after learning his old abilities, flying, being immortal, literally anything, would enjoy himself again.....by himself...in the mirror, with plenty of lotion surely. But the program spread like a virus and you are dodo birds now.


btw you creatures are huge on illusion. so these killings may or may not have happened.
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btw, the fallen can and do take form, as human, such is the case, you can identify them by their ears, which literally don't work, they must project their own reality to carry out god's will in the short time they have (50 years or less, which is a second to you creatures). So like, look for eardrums and beware. These motherfuckers are like neo on crack.

But here's the thing, God tried beyond all measure to learn how to fix you guys, for millenia, so that spirits and flesh bodies, who will not verify their existence, could peacefully coexist in this plane. YOU do not belong here, the best we can gather a scientist named marvin somehow shifted your frequency and you are stuck and literally meaningless. You don't even release upon death, save for the shitting of onesself.

Odds are you won't even be able to read this.
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GOD tried to learn???????

God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient
so Please don't be so completely nutty in the middle of a decent discussion!

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