They're screaming for more gun control but we better ban knives, cars, ladders, & beds too! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27667491 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and disingenuous not that i think a gun ban would have much effect on the shocking gun-related death rates. but maybe some. clearly whats needed is stringent and ongoing checks on prospective and current gun owners because SOMETHING is obviously going very wrong |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27667491 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hitler and Mao had gun control. Look at all the many years of Quoting: Major Doom peace there was! Such harmony and happiness! Yay! the UK and many other countries have gun control and our death rates are extremely low. but then again, neither do we feel the need to arm ourselves, even in the worst neighbourhoods. why? because gun crime is almost always inter-gang related shootings like the US experiences all too often are not gang-related america is still living in the wild west era |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27667491 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | although i am more and more thinking that these mass shootings are the work of the govt, and are either entirely faked, or they are now using small children to bring in gun control i just cant believe there are so many 'copycat' shootings that doesnt change the fact that america loves its guns |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29904248 Belgium 12/16/2012 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hitler and Mao had gun control. Look at all the many years of Quoting: Major Doom peace there was! Such harmony and happiness! Yay! the UK and many other countries have gun control and our death rates are extremely low. but then again, neither do we feel the need to arm ourselves, even in the worst neighbourhoods. why? because gun crime is almost always inter-gang related shootings like the US experiences all too often are not gang-related america is still living in the wild west era Guns are also great to deal with a lack of balls. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29904248 Belgium 12/16/2012 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The world needs more Hitler's and Mao's so we can have world peace... (Belgian Logic) Quoting: Major Doom I never talked politics. You did. I'm talking about guns :) Idiot. name calling makes strong arguments... You implied I'm a communist sympathizer to make your point. I don't think yours are stronger ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30035436 Germany 12/16/2012 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BAN ALCOHOL YOU CAN MAKE MOLOTOV COCKTAILS! Quoting: Dapurps BAN CARS YOU CAN RUN PEOPLE OVER BAN KNIVES YOU CAN SHANK SOMEONE BAN AIRPLANES YOU CAN HIJACK THEM BAN GUNS YOU CAN SHOOT PEOPLE BAN DRUGS THEIR BAD BAN LADDERS YOU CAN FALL BAN FREE SPEECH YOU COULD GET KILLED BAN REAL EDUCTION YOU COULD FIGURE US OUT BAN PENS YOU COULD STAB SOMEONE BAN MATCHES... YOU KNOW WHY BAN SCISSORS YOU KNOW WHY BAN FORKS YOU KNOW WHY The list goes on and it points to one thing. Complete control and slavery. Great list! Don't forget the Happy Land fire, where a disgruntled patron killed 87 with a gallon of gasoline and 2 matches. Quoting: Copperhead [link to en.wikipedia.org] Very true. Even a match can be a weapon. ...??? You compare those things with guns??? Sorry thats kinda short minded. You just slightly touch the trigger and a bullet shoots out with high speed destroying everything in it's path. even a knife is nothing compared to a gun... With a knife you have to put strength and a passion to kill into it. |
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Major Doom User ID: 19031275 United States 12/16/2012 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | although i am more and more thinking that these mass shootings are the work of the govt, and are either entirely faked, or they are now using small children to bring in gun control Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27667491 i just cant believe there are so many 'copycat' shootings that doesnt change the fact that america loves its guns The US is riddled with crime. Take a look at the southern border states such as Arizona. Crime is rampant at the border due to Mexican drug cartels, etc. If you were sitting back relaxing in you own home with your family and you were invaded by Mexicans intent on killing all of you and seizing your ranch, would you just lay back and let them execute you or would you rather be armed and do whatever is necessary to defend the lives of your family? FOr me, it's a no-brainer. But, there are people who would rather die and not defend their families... DOOM is what you make of it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30035436 Germany 12/16/2012 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hitler and Mao had gun control. Look at all the many years of Quoting: Major Doom peace there was! Such harmony and happiness! Yay! the UK and many other countries have gun control and our death rates are extremely low. but then again, neither do we feel the need to arm ourselves, even in the worst neighbourhoods. why? because gun crime is almost always inter-gang related shootings like the US experiences all too often are not gang-related america is still living in the wild west era Guns are also great to deal with a lack of balls. ye thats it! It's all about fear, those with guns and without a huntingpermission a just frightend to be not as strong... |
Major Doom User ID: 19031275 United States 12/16/2012 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BAN ALCOHOL YOU CAN MAKE MOLOTOV COCKTAILS! Quoting: Dapurps BAN CARS YOU CAN RUN PEOPLE OVER BAN KNIVES YOU CAN SHANK SOMEONE BAN AIRPLANES YOU CAN HIJACK THEM BAN GUNS YOU CAN SHOOT PEOPLE BAN DRUGS THEIR BAD BAN LADDERS YOU CAN FALL BAN FREE SPEECH YOU COULD GET KILLED BAN REAL EDUCTION YOU COULD FIGURE US OUT BAN PENS YOU COULD STAB SOMEONE BAN MATCHES... YOU KNOW WHY BAN SCISSORS YOU KNOW WHY BAN FORKS YOU KNOW WHY The list goes on and it points to one thing. Complete control and slavery. Great list! Don't forget the Happy Land fire, where a disgruntled patron killed 87 with a gallon of gasoline and 2 matches. Quoting: Copperhead [link to en.wikipedia.org] Very true. Even a match can be a weapon. ...??? You compare those things with guns??? Sorry thats kinda short minded. You just slightly touch the trigger and a bullet shoots out with high speed destroying everything in it's path. even a knife is nothing compared to a gun... With a knife you have to put strength and a passion to kill into it. The same can be said of a crossbow - just substitute the word bullet with bolt. DOOM is what you make of it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27667491 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hitler and Mao had gun control. Look at all the many years of Quoting: Major Doom peace there was! Such harmony and happiness! Yay! the UK and many other countries have gun control and our death rates are extremely low. but then again, neither do we feel the need to arm ourselves, even in the worst neighbourhoods. why? because gun crime is almost always inter-gang related shootings like the US experiences all too often are not gang-related america is still living in the wild west era Guns are also great to deal with a lack of balls. true, it is a very 'macho' thing, to carry a gun. penis extension/white knight type of thing. also theres the whole 'i wont let my wife leave the house without a gun' all the guns people have and yet i am yet to see any examples where they have saved someones life or even frightened someone off. im not saying this wouldnt happen, of course it might, but i havent seen any stats on this i couldnt deal with living a life where i felt the need to arm myself 24/7 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30035706 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are hearing already after this horrendous shooting that we need "tough gun laws." But is that really the solution? There are a LOT of things that kill more people in the U.S. than guns. Take a look: Quoting: telling it straight Homicides due to guns is 3.7 people per 100,000 people in U.S. (That's about 11,000 people.) [link to www.cdc.gov] China school knife attack wounds 23: A man wielding a knife attacked students Friday at a school in central China, leaving 22 children and one adult injured, according to state-run media reports. The attack occurred at the gate of an elementary school in the village of Chengping, in Henan Province. Police arrested the attacker, who they identified as local resident Min Yingjun, 36. Children as young as six were among those hospitalized after the attack, suffering injuries including slashes to the ears and head. [link to www.cbsnews.com] Cars in U.S. kill 40,000 people per year (guns 11,000) Imagine a plane full of people crashing, killing everyone on board, every single day. That’s how many people die on America’s roads daily, says the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. “Motor vehicle crashes in the United States result in more than 40,000 deaths per year,” says the Institute in the journal Injury Prevention. “That is, on each of the 6,209 consecutive days included in this study, an equivalent of a plane load or more of people died on the roads.” Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com] Road accidents are ACCIDENTAL!!! And the kids in the knife attack WERE NOT KILLED, as they would have been if he's had guns!!! Your arguments are ridiculous and deeply flawed. Every sane person knows guns are completely evil. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23094175 United States 12/16/2012 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | remember that a cell phone is the detonator for an ied and may be the next weapon of choice for the next massacre. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23094175 Correct me if I'm wrong, but IED are banned. So according to your logic, we should ban guns ;) more like saying, ban guns and the nuts will move on to the next device to satisfy their desire to inflect major harm...the source of the problem is not guns, but the atmosphere we find ourselves in today and who is responsible for it...during the 50/60's there were probably as many guns available to inflict such events but as far as I can remember did not occur...I believe that because there is such hopelessness/depression about the future amongst many today that it is the root cause for events like these. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29904248 Belgium 12/16/2012 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | more like saying, ban guns and the nuts will move on to the next device to satisfy their desire to inflect major harm... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23094175 So tell me what device inflicts as much damage as gun, with as much ease, and from the same distance and with the same firing speed, that isn't banned? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30030816 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are hearing already after this horrendous shooting that we need "tough gun laws." But is that really the solution? There are a LOT of things that kill more people in the U.S. than guns. Take a look: Quoting: telling it straight Homicides due to guns is 3.7 people per 100,000 people in U.S. (That's about 11,000 people.) [link to www.cdc.gov] China school knife attack wounds 23: A man wielding a knife attacked students Friday at a school in central China, leaving 22 children and one adult injured, according to state-run media reports. The attack occurred at the gate of an elementary school in the village of Chengping, in Henan Province. Police arrested the attacker, who they identified as local resident Min Yingjun, 36. Children as young as six were among those hospitalized after the attack, suffering injuries including slashes to the ears and head. [link to www.cbsnews.com] Cars in U.S. kill 40,000 people per year (guns 11,000) Imagine a plane full of people crashing, killing everyone on board, every single day. That’s how many people die on America’s roads daily, says the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. “Motor vehicle crashes in the United States result in more than 40,000 deaths per year,” says the Institute in the journal Injury Prevention. “That is, on each of the 6,209 consecutive days included in this study, an equivalent of a plane load or more of people died on the roads.” Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com] Road accidents are ACCIDENTAL!!! And the kids in the knife attack WERE NOT KILLED, as they would have been if he's had guns!!! Your arguments are ridiculous and deeply flawed. Every sane person knows guns are completely evil. I agree. But you try to speak some sense into these trigger happy Americans and they refuse to believe what they know is true. Guns are indeed evil and were designed to kill. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7570540 United States 12/16/2012 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If somebody really wants to kill another, they will figure a way to do it. However, guns were made for one purpose and that is to kill. Ladders, knives, cars, and beds were made for other purposes but people do lose their lives to accidental injury or sometimes (in the case of knives) purposeful injury. It's really two different things. There is absolutely no reason to ply our sick public with any handguns or even automatic and semi-automatic weapons in general. |
Major Doom User ID: 19031275 United States 12/16/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are hearing already after this horrendous shooting that we need "tough gun laws." But is that really the solution? There are a LOT of things that kill more people in the U.S. than guns. Take a look: Quoting: telling it straight Homicides due to guns is 3.7 people per 100,000 people in U.S. (That's about 11,000 people.) [link to www.cdc.gov] China school knife attack wounds 23: A man wielding a knife attacked students Friday at a school in central China, leaving 22 children and one adult injured, according to state-run media reports. The attack occurred at the gate of an elementary school in the village of Chengping, in Henan Province. Police arrested the attacker, who they identified as local resident Min Yingjun, 36. Children as young as six were among those hospitalized after the attack, suffering injuries including slashes to the ears and head. [link to www.cbsnews.com] Cars in U.S. kill 40,000 people per year (guns 11,000) Imagine a plane full of people crashing, killing everyone on board, every single day. That’s how many people die on America’s roads daily, says the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. “Motor vehicle crashes in the United States result in more than 40,000 deaths per year,” says the Institute in the journal Injury Prevention. “That is, on each of the 6,209 consecutive days included in this study, an equivalent of a plane load or more of people died on the roads.” Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com] Road accidents are ACCIDENTAL!!! And the kids in the knife attack WERE NOT KILLED, as they would have been if he's had guns!!! Your arguments are ridiculous and deeply flawed. Every sane person knows guns are completely evil. I agree. But you try to speak some sense into these trigger happy Americans and they refuse to believe what they know is true. Guns are indeed evil and were designed to kill. So was your nation's military and their armament. Maybe they shouldn't have guns and be disbanded... argh! pacifists... DOOM is what you make of it. |
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Major Doom User ID: 19031275 United States 12/16/2012 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If somebody really wants to kill another, they will figure a way to do it. However, guns were made for one purpose and that is to kill. Ladders, knives, cars, and beds were made for other purposes but people do lose their lives to accidental injury or sometimes (in the case of knives) purposeful injury. It's really two different things. There is absolutely no reason to ply our sick public with any handguns or even automatic and semi-automatic weapons in general. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 Swords, bows, crossbows, etc were made to kill as well. Maybe they should be banned too? DOOM is what you make of it. |
Major Doom User ID: 19031275 United States 12/16/2012 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So was your nation's military and their armament. Maybe they shouldn't have guns and be disbanded... Quoting: Major Doom argh! pacifists... Military are professional and must be trained to use gun. Try harder :) But your argument is ALL firearms should be banned. Try harder... DOOM is what you make of it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29904248 Belgium 12/16/2012 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So was your nation's military and their armament. Maybe they shouldn't have guns and be disbanded... Quoting: Major Doom argh! pacifists... Military are professional and must be trained to use gun. Try harder :) But your argument is ALL firearms should be banned. Try harder... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29904248 Belgium 12/16/2012 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If somebody really wants to kill another, they will figure a way to do it. However, guns were made for one purpose and that is to kill. Ladders, knives, cars, and beds were made for other purposes but people do lose their lives to accidental injury or sometimes (in the case of knives) purposeful injury. It's really two different things. There is absolutely no reason to ply our sick public with any handguns or even automatic and semi-automatic weapons in general. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 Swords, bows, crossbows, etc were made to kill as well. Maybe they should be banned too? No, because they are much less effective to kill 26 people in a few minutes. |