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THE GUN NUTS ARE LIKE THE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS - NO REASONING WITH THEM

 
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Lefty thread. Titel alone should make everyone fear ignorant people like the OP. This could be your neighbour..

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whatever.

i have a universal right to defend myself & my family.


i dont care if you dont like it.

ive never murdered anyone, so- fuck yourself.
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Yep, guns are useless until they are necessary.
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Pencils can be used in self defense or as a weapon.

Just sayin...

Your logic is failing you.
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At least OP is using some logic, unlike you.

In your fantasy world there is no difference between a pencil and a nuclear warhead.
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The topic was death and murder. The point being guns are not the only way to murder another human being. Ending gun possession is not going to bring about some fantastical utopia, where murder does not exist.

You people are living in a fantasy land.

Murder has always been a part of the human race and always will be. The choice of weapons may change, but the end result is still the same.
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Oh really? How many massacres have been carried out with a pencil?
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You people are so fucking dense.

Look up the Bath Township Elementary Massacre of 1927. 45 dead many others wounded. Worst school massacre is U.S. history and it was not perpetrated with guns.

Where there is a will there is a way. What part of that do you not understand?
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The purpose of this post was to point out that the paranoid, gun obsessed segment of our society shares a maniacal closed mindedness with religion obsessed, Islamic fanatics. The silly responses confirm the premise. Check and mate.
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Can you prove where a situation was resolved with total control of something that actually turned out for the better then what has been in place before an issue was escalated?

I'll quote part of your statement. " It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly.

You are going to ask the SAME people who are in control of an entity that is and has made some of the worst known mistakes that anyone can't argue are highly detrimental to life and liberty to millions of people. It is like asking a thief what locks to use on your house to offer control to a group who know no control is mind boggling with you statement.
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Make a regular practice of Miswak for verily it is the purification for the mouth and a means of the pleasure of the Lord. Wait! What?? Islam the oral jihads handbook pg 12.
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Pencils can be used in self defense or as a weapon.

Just sayin...

Your logic is failing you.
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At least OP is using some logic, unlike you.

In your fantasy world there is no difference between a pencil and a nuclear warhead.
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The topic was death and murder. The point being guns are not the only way to murder another human being. Ending gun possession is not going to bring about some fantastical utopia, where murder does not exist.

You people are living in a fantasy land.

Murder has always been a part of the human race and always will be. The choice of weapons may change, but the end result is still the same.
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Oh really? How many massacres have been carried out with a pencil?
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Iraq war
Iran war
WW 2
WW 1

Shall I go on my not to bright British bloke?
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― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!

Make a regular practice of Miswak for verily it is the purification for the mouth and a means of the pleasure of the Lord. Wait! What?? Islam the oral jihads handbook pg 12.
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The purpose of this post was to point out that the paranoid, gun obsessed segment of our society shares a maniacal closed mindedness with religion obsessed, Islamic fanatics. The silly responses confirm the premise. Check and mate.
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I'm sure you receive a check, probably from my tax dollars.

And, whatever you do, please don't mate. You're too stupid to have children.
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Don't want none?

Don't start none.

We'll go all jihad on your ass!

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Pencils can be used in self defense or as a weapon.

Just sayin...

Your logic is failing you.
 Quoting: CatBTX


At least OP is using some logic, unlike you.

In your fantasy world there is no difference between a pencil and a nuclear warhead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29882742


The topic was death and murder. The point being guns are not the only way to murder another human being. Ending gun possession is not going to bring about some fantastical utopia, where murder does not exist.

You people are living in a fantasy land.

Murder has always been a part of the human race and always will be. The choice of weapons may change, but the end result is still the same.
 Quoting: CatBTX


Oh really? How many massacres have been carried out with a pencil?
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So if we're banning things in order of how many people they kill every year I guess we should get rid of abortion,alcohol,and automobiles first since they all kill more people than guns every year.

Oh..but I'm sure that logic of yours is only applicaple in regards to guns since it supports your agenda.Of course it is.
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There are no arguments that will penetrate their way of thinking, no amount of death and murder that will alter their myopic focus on their cherished right to own as many assault weapons as they like, damn the consequences to the rest of society. It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly. If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down "Waco style," so be it.
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Are they banning the police and military from carrying guns, too? When their weapons are lowered so will ours.
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There are no arguments that will penetrate their way of thinking, no amount of death and murder that will alter their myopic focus on their cherished right to own as many assault weapons as they like, damn the consequences to the rest of society. It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly. If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down "Waco style," so be it.
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Are they banning the police and military from carrying guns, too? When their weapons are lowered so will ours.
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They thinkd govt agents armed to the teeth is fine..after all they are your friends.But well armed civilians..uh uh..thats a no no :P
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There are no arguments that will penetrate their way of thinking, no amount of death and murder that will alter their myopic focus on their cherished right to own as many assault weapons as they like, damn the consequences to the rest of society. It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly. If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down "Waco style," so be it.
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Several people were banned yesterday for god forbid suggesting more intelligent controls on semi-automatic and automatic weapons this is not the site to suggest the divine right to blow the living fuck out of small furry animals or beer bottles with 60 round magazine 600 round per minute weapons be somehow newtered in any way shape or form.

This has happened 62 times in your country since 1984 and will happen again,again and again until civilians are denied military grade weapons-which in the US will never happen.
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There are no arguments that will penetrate their way of thinking, no amount of death and murder that will alter their myopic focus on their cherished right to own as many assault weapons as they like, damn the consequences to the rest of society. It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly. If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down "Waco style," so be it.
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Interesting, but who is going to take down the "gun nuts" since they out number the police and all the anti gunners combined?
As far as I am concerned it is the Anti gunners that are responsible here. They disarmed the people who could have stopped this.

A little history is in order here:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.

Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

See even in 1764 they recognized this TRUTH, so why don't you?
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The purpose of this post was to point out that the paranoid, gun obsessed segment of our society shares a maniacal closed mindedness with religion obsessed, Islamic fanatics. The silly responses confirm the premise. Check and mate.
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You seem like one of those gullible college school kids that have been brainwashed constantly by the curriculum.

Sorry you have failed at life and failed to see where the opportunity actually lies in this society, but you are carrying over that same blindness in your ability to rationalize.
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There are no arguments that will penetrate their way of thinking, no amount of death and murder that will alter their myopic focus on their cherished right to own as many assault weapons as they like, damn the consequences to the rest of society. It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly. If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down "Waco style," so be it.
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You have a severe comprehension fail. There are too many guns in circulation to be banned! PERIOD!!!! You can make a gun with black smithing tools! Black powder can be made from natural resources!!!

There is no stopping firearms! HEAR THAT AND ABSORB!!! There is no stopping it! Repeat this to yourself until you finally get it.

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At least OP is using some logic, unlike you.

In your fantasy world there is no difference between a pencil and a nuclear warhead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29882742


The topic was death and murder. The point being guns are not the only way to murder another human being. Ending gun possession is not going to bring about some fantastical utopia, where murder does not exist.

You people are living in a fantasy land.

Murder has always been a part of the human race and always will be. The choice of weapons may change, but the end result is still the same.
 Quoting: CatBTX


Oh really? How many massacres have been carried out with a pencil?
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You people are so fucking dense.

Look up the Bath Township Elementary Massacre of 1927. 45 dead many others wounded. Worst school massacre is U.S. history and it was not perpetrated with guns.

Where there is a will there is a way. What part of that do you not understand?
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I swear to God, there's a Youtube video about EVERYTHING.

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Disarming the honest citizen will do nothing to solve the problem. Armed guards would be a much better solution.
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There are no arguments that will penetrate their way of thinking, no amount of death and murder that will alter their myopic focus on their cherished right to own as many assault weapons as they like, damn the consequences to the rest of society. It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly. If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down "Waco style," so be it.
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I'd give you a full 5 stars in agreement but as you can see 38 gun-tards have read your post. Hard to believe isn't.
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The Following is a Paper I wrote for School A few weeks ago.


Benjamin Franklin said “Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.”

No one ever said freedom was safe. In fact, upon true realization and understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that true freedom is actually the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guaranties in freedom. The only security one can have in a truly free environment is security they provide for themselves at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Last year, in Wisconsin, the “concealed carry” law passed, allowing people who attain the proper license to carry a concealed firearm. I believe that this is a step in the right direction, giving the law abiding citizen the freedom to defend themselves against a criminal. The concealed carry law serves as more of a crime deterrent. What kind of criminal would attempt to victimize a citizen that might be able to effectively defend themselves against the crime? Criminals already have blatant disregard for the law, and in the case where guns would be made illegal by the law, do you really think that criminals would just give up their guns based on the laws they already disregard? No! The only persons affected by oppressive gun control laws is the law abiding citizen, whom, in that case, would no longer be able to effectively defend themselves against the illegal gun toting criminal. In fact, the U.S. Department of Justice conducted research on 2000 felons. Of these felons, it was found that 34% had been “wounded or captured by an armed victim”, and 40% admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime in the first place because they feared the potential victim was armed.

As of March 2012, there are only 2 places in the U.S. that have prohibited concealed carry; Washington D.C., and Illinois. Go look up the crime rates in those places yourself, Chicago in particular. There are different classifications that states can use to establish their concealed carry laws. There are “Shall Issue” states, where issuing authorities are required to issue a permit to any applicant that meets the objective statutory criteria. There are “may issue” states, which are stricter than the fore mentioned because of how they classify certain disqualifying felonies, or they have different firearms training requirements. And finally there are “no permit required” states. Four states fall into this category, including Vermont, Wyoming, Arizona and Alaska.

Florida has set the standard for the “shall issue” model. Since they adopted a concealed carry law in 1987, the overall crime rate has dropped 32% and the homicide rate has dropped 58%. Also, by 2009, Florida had issued 1.36 million permits, of which only 165 had been revoked due to crimes by the permit holder. I would say that those numbers speak scores as to the reliability and discretion of the eligibility requirements, as well as to the effectiveness of such laws overall. ¬

Criminals are criminals, and they will always be a part of this world. Sure, we can imagine, and work towards an ideal future, but In order to achieve this ideal future, we must take into consideration the reality we actually exist in today, without the ideals. Unless one can travel back in time, and un-invent the gun, guns are going to be a permanent part of our reality. We must consider this in our imagined ideal future, and integrate them into our vision. I believe that the concealed carry laws are moving us closer to this realization. Remember, there are no guarantees in true freedom. How free do you want to be?

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"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

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no one has anything to say, well then......


"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control

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Thread: The Real Secret of the Pentagram - Venus Transit - 6/6/12 - and ISON
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The guns nuts are
a) policemen
b) rural folks that hunt

You attempt to apply a urban solution to a wide demographic.
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I hope someone robs you shoots you right in the nuts.
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LMAO
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Kinda like Democrats.. 5a
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There are no arguments that will penetrate their way of thinking, no amount of death and murder that will alter their myopic focus on their cherished right to own as many assault weapons as they like, damn the consequences to the rest of society. It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly. If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down "Waco style," so be it.
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You are responsible for those places being unprotected, and you are responsible for their protection. YOU FAILED!!!!! so fuck you.
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Well by definition your calling me a gun nut, which makes you an Antiguan nut.

Do you really think I'm goin to try and reason with that.

Your a fool op, an authoritarian fool. Hitler was antigun.
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Gun free zones are killing fields
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There are no arguments that will penetrate their way of thinking, no amount of death and murder that will alter their myopic focus on their cherished right to own as many assault weapons as they like, damn the consequences to the rest of society. It's time for everyone else (the majority) to lobby the government for much stricter gun control, background checks, and the banning of these military weapons. Pass the laws and enforce them strictly. If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down "Waco style," so be it.
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No the people who want too take them away AKA the fucking liberals are worse than islamic terrorists,they have done more damage too America than any islamic terrorist has or ever will.
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OP, Go Fuck Yourself!! Thats like blaming the Camera for Pornography or the Microphone for Bob Costas' stupid remarks. A ban on guns will not fix the problem but make it worse.
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Alright, there are some "slower" people posting hear, so let me try to make this easier for you to understand. Here's what I said "If the gun nuts don't like it and want to barricade themselves in their compounds and go down 'Waco style,' so be it." This statement does not sanction, condone, or encourage an armed government raid on your doomsday bunker. You can sit in there waiting for the UN troops for eternity. If you WANT to have a barricaded standoff with the government, that's up to you. Do you see the difference, Billy Bob?
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OP what on earth makes you think we will barricade ourselves in.

General Patton "fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man"

Me " OP is a monument of what food for the hungry looks like"
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TROLL THREAD
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It sounds like to me OP just got a new "puter" for christmas early and found out he has an opinion he would love to share with the world. Its cute at best.

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