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USA Gun Control Timeline, a social experiment...Post Sandy Hook to Present

 
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"Teen Girl's Pro-Gun Video Gets 2.3 Million Hits"

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"A teenage girl skyrocketed to the center of the gun control debate when a YouTube video of her three-minute pro-gun speech went viral, acquiring more than 2.3 million views.

Sarah Merkle, 15 of Maryland, has been shooting guns for almost eight years and is a member of the Maryland Rifle Club and Maryland State Rifle Club. She says in the video that signing anti-gun legislation would not be doing away with gun violence but rather "liberating American citizens of our constitutional rights."

Merkle, who says that her favorite rifle is a Bushmaster, makes a gripping plea to legislators who are considering passing legislation to enact stricter gun control laws.

In her testimony, Merkle tells that she has become eligible for various shooting scholarships at prestigious universities, and the laws proposed would interfere with her eligibility to join their shooting teams.

"Achieving stricter gun control laws would obliterate any opportunity I could have had to attend a decent college on a shooting scholarship," she says.

A provision in the Maryland law makes it more difficult for residents to transport their firearms across the state border. In the case of Merkle, it is problematic because she would be unable to shoot at a range that is located over the border in nearby Delaware. Stricter gun laws would hinder her ability to practice.

In her plea in front of Maryland State Legislature in Annapolis, Merkle says that guns are not the problem, people are...."

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Poor Harry Reid... cry

[link to www.nbcnews.com]


"Reid Says Republicans 'Seem Afraid' of Gun Control Debate"


[link to news.yahoo.com]

"WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had some tough words for Republicans threatening to filibuster gun control legislation the full Senate will start working on this week: "Shame on them."

"Senate Republicans seem afraid to even engage in this debate," Reid said on the Senate floor of the Republicans threatening to filibuster the gun control legislation.

"The least Republicans owe the parents of these 20 little babies who are murdered at Sandy Hook is a thoughtful debate about who whether stronger laws could have saved their little girls and boys," Reid said. "The least Republicans owe them is a vote."

In late March, three Republican senators - Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah - sent Reid a letter threatening to filibuster the gun control legislation.

The letter this morning was re-delivered with a little more weight to it, with now 13 Republican signers, including Senators James Inhofe of Oklahoma, Richard Burr of North Carolina, Mike Enzi of Wyoming, Marco Rubio of Florida, Jerry Moran and Pat Roberts of Kansas, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Dan Coats of Indiana, and Mike Crapo and James Risch of Idaho.

In the letter to Reid, the senators write that they will "oppose the motion to proceed to any legislation that will serve as a vehicle for any additional gun restrictions." Republican aides expect more Republican support to the filibuster threat as the week progresses on Capitol Hill.

Reid said this morning that he found this letter "deeply troubling," and labeled it "obstruction...."


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"Mitch McConnell joins Senate gun filibuster"

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"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said he would join a group of Senate Republicans threatening a filibuster to oppose a cloture vote if Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid moves a gun bill to the floor this week.

Reid has promised to move a gun bill to the Senate floor this week, but it’s unclear which one. It depends on whether Democrats can strike a deal on background checks on gun sales — otherwise, they may settle for a less strict bill that includes some form of background checks, increase penalties for gun trafficking and increase school security. In order to get around the filibuster, Reid has indicated that he would file a cloture motion, which would require a 60-vote margin to move the bill.

“While nobody knows yet what Senator Reid’s plan is for the gun bill, if he chooses to file cloture on the motion to proceed to the Reid Bill (S. 649), Senator McConnell will oppose cloture on proceeding to that bill,” McConnell spokesman John Ashbrook said in a statement...."

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I'm sure this was the lead news story tonight on The Lame Stream Networks evening news, right??? lmao

"Poll: Obama underwater on guns, immigration, deficit"

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"A new CNN/ORC International poll found President Obama's overall approval rating has ticked up to 51 percent but ratings have fallen on his handling of the key issues on his agenda: immigration, guns, and the deficit.

On immigration, 44 percent approve of the way he is handling the issue, down from 51 percent in January. At the same time, disapproval has jumped to 50 percent, up from 43 percent in January.

On guns, 45 percent approve and 52 percent disapprove, the poll found. In January, 46 percent approved and 49 percent dispproved...."

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"Minn. airport worker charged with stealing guns"

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"MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A worker at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport has been charged with stealing shotguns, revolvers and other weapons from the checked luggage of passengers who had connections through the busy Twin Cities airport.

David Vang, 23, of St. Paul faces 11 felony counts, including 10 counts of theft of a firearm. He will be making his first court appearance April 25 in Hennepin County.

Pat Hogan, spokesman for the Metropolitan Airports Commission, said Monday that Vang was employed by a Texas firm to maintain the belt on which checked baggage traveled. Hogan said authorities learned in September that weapons were being stolen, so they set up surveillance cameras.

A review of footage showed Vang removing items from checked luggage and taking them to an unsecured employee parking ramp where his wife was waiting in a vehicle, the criminal complaint said.

Vang was arrested in October and is no longer working at the airport, Hogan said...."

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"Former SEAL Has Special Message for Bloomberg in New NRA Video: If You Really Cared About Freedom…"

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"Former Navy SEAL Dom Raso has a special message for NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg and others like him who are pushing for more gun control: "If you really cared about the American people, you'd stand up for more freedom for them, and not more power and status for yourself."

The 12-year veteran is one of the newest NRA News contributors and has just released a diatribe against politicians who say they stand up for American safety but are quick to sacrifice essential freedom...."

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lmao

"For Obama, gun control is more than just a feel-good gesture"


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"For Barack Obama, like any second-term president, the most valuable political commodity is time. Every day brings Obama closer to that chilling moment of semi-irrelevance when Americans are more fixated on the 2016 elections than on the man finishing out his eight-year lease on the Oval Office.

That’s why it’s telling that Obama is flying to Connecticut on Monday afternoon for his second out-of-town gun control event in a week. This represents a level of presidential commitment that Obama has rarely displayed about other issues on the liberal wish list, like global warming. Nearly four months after the Sandy Hook shootings, it suggests that the death of 20 small children continues to sear Obama’s soul.

The presidential visit to Hartford serves as a prelude to a week when the Senate will begin debating gun legislation under the threat of a conservative GOP filibuster. But for the first time in weeks, there are glimmers of hope that the National Rifle Association (NRA) may be on the defensive in the Senate.

Pennsylvania conservative Republican Pat Toomey has been working with pro-gun West Virginia Democrat Joe Manchin on compromise language mandating an expansion of background checks for gun buyers. And on “Face the Nation” on Sunday, John McCain announced that he would oppose a filibuster to prevent the Senate from voting on gun bills, depriving the Republicans of a key vote...."

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Our dear leader...

"Obama slams Republicans for gun reform 'stunts' "


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"AFP - President Barack Obama accused Republicans of stooping to political stunts to block gun reform, in a fervent appeal delivered close to the site of the Newtown school massacre.

At a critical moment for hopes for sweeping action to stem gun violence, Obama traveled to Hartford, Connecticut, not far from Sandy Hook Elementary School, where 20 children and six adults were gunned down in December.

In sharp, impassioned remarks, he contrasted the courage of parents whose children were killed by a deranged gunman with US lawmakers he said feared the wrath of the powerful American gun lobby.

"Some folks in Washington are already floating the idea that they may use political stunts to prevent votes on any of these reforms," Obama told a raucous crowd during his second gun control rally in a week.

"They're not just saying they'll vote no on ideas that almost all Americans support. They're saying they'll do everything they can to even prevent any votes on these provisions.

"What's more important to you -- our children or an A grade from the gun lobby?"

As Congress returns from a recess, some Republicans have pledged to use Senate filibuster tactics to prevent a gun reform bill likely to be placed before lawmakers in the next few weeks from coming to a final vote.

They say a package prepared by Democratic Senate Majority leader Harry Reid would infringe the constitutional right to bear arms.

Obama has been delivered increasingly emotive calls for action -- surrounded by gun violence victims and police officers to build pressure on Republicans to relent.

The president contrasted the bravery of Nicole Hockley, mother of 6-year-old Dylan who was killed at Sandy Hook, who has become a vocal campaigner for gun control with the behavior of his political foes in Washington.

"If Nicole can summon the courage to do that -- how can the rest of us do any less?" Obama asked the 3,100 strong crowd...."


YET thinks it's A.O.K. to:
Flies families of Newtown victims on Air Force One...

"Obama, With Newtown Families, Demands Gun Control Vote"

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"Speaking before families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre, President Obama made an impassioned and urgent plea for stricter gun laws, as he accused Republicans of threatening to use "political stunts" to block reforms.

"This is not about politics. This is about doing the right thing for all the families who are here that have been torn apart by gun violence," the president told a packed crowd at the University of Hartford, just 50 miles from the site of the December shooting in Newtown, Conn. "It's about them, and all the families going forward so we can prevent this from happening again. That's what it's about."

Obama's visit to Connecticut comes at the start of a critical week, as the Senate is expected to debate the president's gun control agenda. While there are signs of agreement to expand background checks, two major parts of the president's plan, a ban on assault-style weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips, seem unlikely to pass.

In a rousing, campaign-style speech the president warned lawmakers not to use political tactics to prevent the Senate from voting on gun reform measures, arguing that they have an obligation to the victims of gun violence...."


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Despite the fact that dear leader has Hollywood & The Lame Stream Media in his back pocket! Must be "racism" lmao

"How the NRA won"

Most Americans support tougher gun control measures. Too bad the gun lobby has so many politicians in its pocket

[link to news.yahoo.com]

"Most Americans support tougher gun control measures. Too bad the gun lobby has so many politicians in its pocket

There's no denying it: The National Rifle Association has won — again. Even though more than 3,000 Americans have died via gun violence since 20 children and 6 adults were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary in December, the NRA has somehow managed to triumph.The victims' families and gun control advocates have lost. Forget an assault weapons ban — or any other serious gun regulation. It's not happening.

The Washington Post notes that not only have the NRA's tactics cowed politicians and beaten back substantive national gun control efforts, but in some instances, they've actually led to moves to make guns easier to get. Meanwhile, at least a dozen GOP senators have signed on to Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul's call to filibuster any gun control measure.

This is just one more issue where polls show Republicans at odds with mainstream America. A Morning Joe/Marist poll found six in 10 respondents — including 83 percent of Democrats, 43 percent of gun owners, and 37 percent of Republicans — believe that the laws covering gun sales should be stricter.

Here's the problem: The NRA has a lot of money, and NRA donations go overwhelmingly to Republicans. They are unsurprisingly blocking tougher gun control...."

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"Women and Guns: Why Female Gun Ownership Is Rising and Why Many Are Taking Notice"

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"This article is part of a series on Guns in America that explores the use of firearms in our country and the debate over gun control. This is an editorially independent series sponsored by Tactical Firearms Training Secrets."


"Many people assume that "every shooter in the United States is a 50-year-old white guy," quips Natalie Foster of the website "The Girl's Guide to Guns."

Many people are wrong.

The number of women who owned guns spiked to 23% in 2011, compared to 13% in a 2005 Gallup poll. While the organization hasn't released updated statistics yet, most think the rates will continue to rise.

But who are these women, and why are they choosing to arm themselves?

Self-Defense and Independence

The average woman is not as strong as the average man. In a hand-to-hand struggle, even if she goes to the gym five times a week, the woman is probably going to lose.

Unless she has a gun, and knows how to use it.

"There's a famous quote...[that] goes, 'God made men, but Sam Colt made [them] equal,'" Jason Hanson, a former CIA Officer and the author of "The Covert Guide to Concealed Carry," told TheBlaze. "A great example of this is when a few months back, [an] 18-year girl in Oklahoma used a shotgun to stop a home intruder who had a knife. The bottom line is, a gun is without a doubt the best way for a woman to defend herself in a worst-case scenario...."


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"PoliceOne's Gun Control Survey: 11 key lessons from officers' perspectives"

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"In March, PoliceOne conducted the most comprehensive survey ever of American law enforcement officers’ opinions on the topic gripping the nation's attention in recent weeks: gun control.

More than 15,000 verified law enforcement professionals took part in the survey, which aimed to bring together the thoughts and opinions of the only professional group devoted to limiting and defeating gun violence as part of their sworn responsibility.

Totaling just shy of 30 questions, the survey allowed officers across the United States to share their perspectives on issues spanning from gun control and gun violence to gun rights.

Top Line Takeaways
Breaking down the results, it's important to note that 70 percent of respondents are field-level law enforcers — those who are face-to-face in the fight against violent crime on a daily basis — not office-bound, non-sworn administrators or perpetually-campaigning elected officials....

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This is CLEARLY an all-out assault on our 2nd amendment rights, they are using EVERY trick in the books!''

"Conn. Father’s Stunning Claim: Son’s School Is Teaching That Americans Don’t Have the Right to Bear Arms"

[link to www.theblaze.com]

Thread: CONN. FATHER’S STUNNING CLAIM: SON’S SCHOOL IS TEACHING THAT AMERICANS DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS

"A Connecticut father is accusing his son’s school district of teaching children that Americans do not have a constitutional right to bear arms. Steven Boibeaux of Bristol, Connecticut, is claiming that his child, an eighth-grader at Northeast Middle School, was given a social studies worksheet that is anti-Second Amendment in nature — or, at the least, opposed to the conservative view of the provision.

In an interview with Fox News’ Todd Starnes, Boibeaux said that he’s “appalled” and that the school seems to be “trying to indoctrinate our kids.” The worksheet in question, published by Instructional Fair, is entitled, “The Second Amendment Today,” and it allegedly proclaims that American citizens do not have the right to guns.

“The courts have consistently determined that the Second Amendment does not ensure each individual the right to bear arms,” it purportedly reads. “The courts have never found a law regulating the private ownership of weapons unconstitutional....”

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How did this "sneak through" the ALL-GUN-VIOLENCE-ALL-THE-TIME LSM "FILTER"???

"Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus"

As many as 14 victims stabbed at Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus


[link to abclocal.go.com]


"HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Multiple victims have been injured in a stabbing attack on the Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus, with one person taken into custody.

The violence broke out at about 11:20am at the rear of the Health Sciences Building on the Cy-Fair campus on Barker Cypress Road. According to the Cy-Fair Volunteer Fire Department, there are multiple victims, possibly as many as 14. The Harris County Sheriff's Department confirms 11 victims, and has one suspect in custody. There are reports that another suspect is at large.

At least one person is said to be critically injured. Cy-Fair VFD says four patients have been taken by Life Flight to Hermann Texas Medical Center. Two more patients were taken by ground ambulance to Hermann Hospital. The remainder were taken to North Cypress Hospital, and two people refused treatment at the scene...."

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I think the reality is that the messiah over reached on this one, and WILL get a proverbial beat down before all is said & very little is done!

"Obama's Army Outmaneuvered by NRA"


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"Although the first votes on gun -control legislation have yet to be cast, by some measures the National Rifle Association has already won.

Obama’s ambitious plans to ban assault weapons and limit magazine capacities are off the table, while the NRA suggested it could support the most likely outcome -- expanded background checks -- as recently as 1999. The NRA claims that the president’s efforts have triggered a fundraising surge and boosted its membership from 4 million to nearly 5 million. Members of Congress who seemed open to legislation after the shooting deaths of 20 Connecticut schoolchildren are still on the fence, while Republicans are threatening a filibuster.

Perhaps a battle pitting one of the oldest and most aggressive lobbying organizations against President Obama’s fledgling advocacy shop wasn’t a fair fight.

Yet by other measures, the newly created Organizing for Action is persevering in the first major battle over gun control in two decades. By partnering with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s well-financed group, Organizing for Action is building the strongest gun-control coalition ever seen in this country. The group also has public opinion on its side, with one Quinnipiac University survey finding 91 percent of voters support background checks.

“It’s a fascinating battle in which both sides have different goals,” said former Democratic presidential candidate and Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who boasts of several NRA endorsements during his political career. “The NRA is clearly succeeding in cranking up their base and expanding it. Their game is as much about keeping themselves in business as it is about public policy.”

As for Obama, “He is winning the hearts and minds of the American people and hopefully moving real legislation,” Dean said. “The president comes out as a winner either way because if the Republicans kill it, he can use it as an issue in 2014 to help Democrats win the House....”

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"Son of slain DA says guns put away before killing"

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"WORTHAM, Texas (AP) — Slain Kaufman County District Attorney Mike McLelland kept a gun "in every room of his house" but couldn't reach one when his killer or killers came into his home Easter weekend because he had put the weapons away just hours before to protect visitors, his son said in an interview published Tuesday.

"They had a party the night before and he gathered up all his guns and put them away in a bag so that his guests didn't stumble across them," J.R. McLelland told The Dallas Morning News ( [link to dallasne.ws] ).

J.R. McLelland and his sister, Krista Ball, told the newspaper they learned about the party after the fact from another family member and had no details.

Mike McLelland and his wife Cynthia were found shot to death March 30. The slayings occurred two months after Assistant District Attorney Mark Hasse was gunned down outside the county courthouse.

No arrests have been made in either case.

J.R. McLelland said he believes that, had the weapons been in their normal spots, his father likely would have tried to reach one of several he kept in the living room. That's where Cynthia McLelland's body was found.

"He kept a gun by every chair," J.R. McLelland said. "He kept one on both sides of the TV, there was a shotgun hanging on the back of the couch and two by his bed...."


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Thursday hmmm...


"Report: Gun Vote Thursday"


[link to www.weeklystandard.com]

"Harry Reid announced today that there will likely be a gun vote on Thursday.

"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) likely has the votes on gun control legislation to clear its first procedural hurdle -- a victory for the gun control community, though one that hardly guarantees the bill's passage," reports the Huffington Post.

"The majority leader announced on Tuesday evening he would submit for a vote the bill to expand background checks, implement a federal trafficking statute, and enhance school safety measures. That would set up a Senate vote on Thursday...."


"Senate to cast first gun-control votes on Thursday"


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"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Senate will cast its first vote this week on President Barack Obama's proposals to curb gun violence, which face a rough ride in Congress due to opposition from Republicans and gun rights activists.

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid scheduled a procedural vote for Thursday to open debate on gun control and Democratic aides said they expect to defeat Republican efforts to block the bill from reaching the Senate floor.

But even if the Democrats win that skirmish, the administration is struggling to gain support from lawmakers for Obama's proposals to expand background checks for gun buyers and ban assault-style weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines in the face of a campaign by the powerful National Rifle Association gun lobby.

Gun-control supporters cranked up pressure on lawmakers on Tuesday, with relatives of children killed in the Newtown school massacre in December meeting with senators in Washington...."


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Consider the source...

"Biden Slams Lawmakers Threatening to Filibuster Gun Control Bill"

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"WASHINGTON - With President Obama's gun-control agenda in jeopardy, Vice President Joe Biden today said it is "mind-boggling" that lawmakers would try to block debate on a gun bill and delivered an emotional call to action.

Just hours after meeting privately with families of the victims of the Newtown, Conn., massacre, Biden said lawmakers threatening to filibuster gun legislation have lost sight of the pain of these parents.

"Why don't people up there understand this? I mean, what has to happen to break through the consciousness of the people up on the Hill?" he asked.

Speaking to law enforcement officials at the White House, Biden said he wished members of Congress had been able to "eavesdrop" on his discussion with the parents of children at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, where 20 children and six adults were killed in a shooting in December.

"[The families] don't understand how we could even be at this point debating this," he said. "The truth is, they don't see how 100 bright women and men don't get it."

More than a dozen Republicans are threatening to block a vote on the bill...."

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"Fired up Obama demands assault weapons ban, 10-round magazine limit"

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"A fired up President Obama delivered a passionate call for gun control today at the University of Hartford in Connecticut today, asking the audience to stand up for stronger gun laws.

“We have to tell Congress it’s time to restore the ban on military-style assault weapons, and a 10-round limit for magazines, to make it harder for a gunman to fire 154 bullets into his victims in less than five minutes,” Obama said. “Let’s put that to a vote.”

Obama only mentioned “assault rifles” once, saving most of his moral outrage for Republicans and the National Rifle Association for opposing legislation on universal background checks...."

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I caught part of that clip. They are dragging the families of the tragedy into DC again. They are doing everything they can to keep the shock and horror and emotions running high. An emotional person tend to not be logical or use critical thinking. They want to pound this legislation through like they did the patriot act...
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"Showdown Day: Senate to Vote on Gun Control Amid GOP Threats"

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"Thursday is showdown day in the Senate over gun control legislation, with the Democratic leadership promising to move forward in a bid to overcome GOP objections.

"We are going to vote Thursday," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said today. "It will be real slap in the face to American people not to do something on background checks, on school safety, on federal trafficking -everybody thinks it's a good idea."

Reid will file cloture on the bill tonight, setting up a Thursday showdown vote. The vote will not be on the overall legislation. It will be a procedural vote on the "motion to proceed" - aka, move to the bill. Republicans have threatened to filibuster the procedural vote, in essence standing in the way of the bill moving forward toward an up or down vote.

The bill needs 60 votes in order to override the Republican filibuster.

When asked if he has the votes he needs Reid answered, "I don't know...."

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If there was any doubts about the full-court press being employed...

"Prof at public univ under investigation for allegedly forcing students to make anti-gun posters"


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"A professor at a public university in Texas is under investigation from school administrators for allegedly forcing students in her graphic design class to create anti-gun posters for a personal anti-gun campaign she had launched.

Midwestern State University Provost and Vice President for Academic Affairs Betty Stewart confirmed to Campus Reform Friday the school has launched an investigation into professor Jennifer Yucus’ conduct after a student filed an official complaint on Thursday.

According to the complaint, obtained by Campus Reform, the professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature.

The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled “MSU is anti-Concealed Carry on Campus” and on a now deleted Facebook page opposing firearms, says the complaint...."

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Thanks Barry! lmao

"FBI Conducting 32 Gun Purchase Background Checks Per Minute Under Obama"

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"During Barack Obama's presidency there have been 32 background checks for gun purchases every minute.

Since February of 2009, the first full month of Obama's presidency, there have been 70,291,049 background checks for gun purchases, according to data released by the FBI...."

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We now have a list of the first Senator's who should be targeted when they are up for re-election...

"Senators reach deal on background checks"


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"Sens. Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey will unveil a bipartisan deal to expand background checks for commercial gun sales at a news conference Wednesday morning, opening a pathway for the biggest change in U.S. gun laws in nearly two decades.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who has been closely involved in the gun talks, called Mark Kelly, husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), on Wednesday morning to inform them he had signed off on the agreement, according to a Senate aide.

This came after Schumer negotiated several changes to the initial Manchin-Toomey proposal. Giffords was seriously wounded in a Jan. 2011 shooting that left six other people dead. Giffords resigned from Congress the next year, and she and Kelly — a former astronaut — have becoming leading gun-control advocates.

Schumer also spoke to Vice President Joe Biden and New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg to give them details of agreement and his support for it.

The agreement could give political cover for enough Republicans to vote Thursday and exceed the 60-vote requirement needed to allow the Senate to proceed to what would be an emotional floor debate on gun control legislation. That debate could last one to two weeks before a final vote, said Senate aides.

The changes proposed by Schumer included striking language from the agreement allowing concealed permit holders to carry their weapons in other states, and limiting Internet sales to five guns per year.

Schumer also worked to make sure there is a 72-hour window for performing background checks except for gun-show sales, which will be cleared in 48 hours initially.

The Manchin-Toomey agreement would close the so-called “gun show loophole”, requiring that background checks are conducted on all commercial gun sales in the country, according to a fact sheet of the bill obtained by POLITICO from a representative of one of the gun control groups involved in the talks.

When a sale occurs, the buyer and seller would meet at a federally licensed dealer, who would conduct the check.

According to the fact sheet, the dealer - not the government - will keep control of the sales record, as has been the process for the last four decades.

It would be a felony to sell a gun without a background check to a prohibited buyer or police officer...."

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"Law enforcement says gun restrictions are ineffective: Survey"

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"A national survey of law enforcement shows officers believe many proposed gun control measures — including bans on assault weapons — will be ineffective at reducing violent crime and that legal gun ownership by private citizens would prove a better safeguard.

Among the findings of a survey by the industry website PoliceOne, which tallied responses from 15,000 verified active and retired law enforcement professionals, police overwhelmingly favor an armed citizenry and are skeptical of any greater restrictions placed on gun purchase, ownership or accessibility, editor Doug Wyllie said.

The survey found that 91.5 percent of respondents believe a federal ban on the manufacture or sale of semi-automatic weapons would have no effect or a negative effect on the reduction of violent crime. Though a national assault weapons ban is dead in the water, numerous states — including Maryland, Connecticut and New York — have adopted or enhanced their own bans.

The vast majority of officers also believe legally armed citizens are important in the reduction of crime rates.

“It’s my analysis that by and large law enforcement officers favor enforcement of current laws and enforcement against illegal guns,” Mr. Wyllie said. “They also favor responsible, armed citizens in the midst of other civilians out there to help protect innocents from harm.”

Release of the survey, conducted March 4-13, comes at a time politicians in Congress and around the country are pushing for stricter gun restrictions in the name of public safety. The Senate is scheduled Thursday to take up gun legislation that would expand the types of gun sales subject to background checks, and impose new penalties on gun traffickers and straw purchasers — those who buy guns to transfer them to people who can’t legally own them.

Vice President Joseph R. Biden and Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. addressed an audience of law enforcement officers from around the country at the White House in support of the administration’s gun control measures. But the survey results, issued Monday, indicate a strong undercurrent in the public safety community that is critical of additional gun restrictions.

When asked what would help most in preventing a large-scale public shooting, the majority of respondents, 28.8 percent, favor more permissive concealed-carry policies for civilians. The second most popular answer, with 19.6 percent, was that more aggressive institutionalization for mentally ill persons would prevent a large-scale shooting, followed by 15.8 percent who believed more armed security would prevent such a tragedy.

Less than 1 percent of respondents believed that further restrictions on assault weapons and ammunition magazines would prevent a large-scale shooting.

When asked what impact a legally armed citizen could have had in a mass shooting such as the school shooting in Newtown, Conn. or movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colo., a whopping 80 percent believed casualties would have been reduced while another 6.2 percent thought casualties would have been avoided altogether...."

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"The Case Against Gun Background Checks"

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"With the fate of gun control as muddled as ever, the best hope for congressional compromise centers on the most popular policy move Washington could make: universal background checks.

The public supports other measures, but among all the limits on gun ownership that Democrats have advanced since the December shooting in Newtown, Conn., background checks enjoy the most support.

A Quinnipiac University poll last week showed 91 percent of respondents in favor of "requiring background checks for all gun buyers," compared with slimmer margins, 59 percent and 58 percent, for banning "assault weapons" and magazines that hold more than 10 bullets, respectively.

To many, the idea of preventing criminals from buying guns seems like a no-brainer, regardless of whether they're stopped at gun stores, as current background checks have successfully done, or at gun shows or from private sellers, where background checks aren't required. Still, Congress is hung up.

Some Republicans have balked at universal background checks. The National Rifle Association opposes them. Why?

Here are a few arguments that have been offered up against the most popular move Congress could make on gun control. Underpinning most of the arguments is a similar idea, usually from conservatives: that universal background checks aren't worth an expansion of government power..."

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This SHOULDN'T "surprise" anyone...

"Giffords, Kelly own guns while pushing gun control"

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"TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- Former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and her husband, Mark Kelly, keep pushing for stricter gun laws as they continue to own weapons for recreational purposes, including the same type of gun used in the January 2011 shooting rampage that left Giffords wounded.

However, the couple's 9 mm Glock holds fewer bullets than the one used the Tucson shooting spree. Limiting the size of ammunition magazines is one of the goals of a new political action committee formed by Giffords and Kelly.

The couple was interviewed in Tucson by CNN for a segment that aired Tuesday evening.

Kelly was shown shooting pots and water bottles off large rocks in a desert area with Giffords watching from a porch.

For target practice, Kelly said he uses a 9 mm Glock with a magazine that can hold 17 rounds. That's the same kind of handgun that Jared Lee Loughner used when he opened fire outside a Tucson supermarket during a meet-and-greet event organized by Giffords. The shooting injured Giffords and 12 others and left six people dead.

"In that case, it had a magazine that held 33 rounds," Kelly said. "He shot 33 rounds. Every round hit somebody, we think...."

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lmao The Law of Unintended Consequences...

"Gun Manufacturer Will Leave Connecticut Over Gun Control Legislation: ‘A Call to All Involved in Our Industry to Leave This State’


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"BRISTOL (TheBlaze/AP -- A Connecticut gun-maker has announced Wednesday it intends to leave the state following the passage of gun control legislation it says tramples on the rights of citizens and does not show enough consideration for the industry.

Bristol-based PTR says in a statement posted on its website that it has not decided where it will move, but it has commitments from most employees to relocate. The company makes military-style rifles and employs more than 40 people.

PTR Vice President John McNamara said Wednesday that it expects to make a more formal announcement about a move within six weeks. The company encouraged other gun manufacturers to follow suit

"We feel that our industry as a whole will continue to be threatened so long as it remains in a state where its elected leaders have no regard for the rights of those who produce and manufacture its wealth," the statement reads.

"We are making a call to all involved in our industry to leave this state, close your doors and show our politicians the true consequences of their hasty and uninformed actions. We encourage those in our industry to abandon this state as its leaders have abandoned the proud heritage that forged our freedom."

Several Connecticut gun manufacturers have indicated they are thinking about moving after Gov. Dannel P. Malloy last week signed the law imposing new restrictions on weapons and large-capacity magazines. The state's new laws have been heralded by Malloy as the toughest in the nation...."

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The proverbial camel's nose under the tent, aka Trojan Horse???

"Sen. Lee: Backgound Checks Could Allow Holder to Create Gun Registry Using Regulations"

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"On Wednesday, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) took to the Senate floor and warned that universal background checks could lead to a national registry system for guns.

"Some of the proposals, like for example- universal background checks- would allow the federal government to surveil law-abiding citizens who exercise their Constitutional rights. One of the provisions we expect to see in the bill based on what we saw in the Judiciary Committee- on which I sit- would allow the Attorney General of the United States (Eric Holder) to promulgate regulations that could lead to a national registry system for guns. Something my constituents in Utah are very concerned about, and understandably so," said Sen. Lee...."

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I DON'T recall her being elected, did I "miss" it???

"Michelle Obama on gun control: ‘These reforms deserve a vote’"

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"CHICAGO — First lady Michelle Obama, with tears in her eyes and her voice cracking, spoke out for the first time here Wednesday about the gun violence afflicting young people in cities across the nation.

She took a rare step for any first lady into the legislative fight of the hour, saying her husband, President Obama, is “fighting as hard as he can, and engaging as many people as he can, to pass common-sense reforms to protect our children from gun violence.”

“These reforms deserve a vote in Congress,” she said, drawing loud applause from hundreds of Chicago’s business executives and civic leaders who were gathered at a luncheon to raise money for a new anti-violence initiative.

Obama spoke emotionally about attending the funeral in February of Hadiya Pendleton, a 15-year-old majorette who was shot in a city park not far from the Obamas’ Chicago house and just days after visiting Washington for President Obama’s inauguration ceremonies...."


"Michelle Obama Compares Herself to Murdered Teenager"


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"In a speech that addressed youth violence in Chicago, First Lady Michelle Obama compared herself to Hadiya Pendleton, a 15-year-old girl murdered soon after attending President Obama's Second Inauguration. "Hadiya Pendleton was me, and I was her," said the first lady.

"Thousands of children in this city live in neighborhoods where a funeral for a teenager is considered unfortunate, but not unusual; where wandering onto the wrong block or even just standing on your own front porch can mean putting yourself at risk," Michelle Obama told the Chicago crowd, according to a transcript provided by the White House...."


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Dozens??? Where's the 91% support???

"Dozens rally for stricter gun laws in Austin"


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"AUSTIN, Texas - A rally for tougher gun laws becomes a heated debate when gun rights advocates decided to bring a message of their own on the south side of the Capitol.

The organizers of the Texas Rally for Gun Sense say they're not against law abiding gun owners.

They say they're fighting for universal background checks and they want to limit assault weapons and high capacity magazines. They also oppose putting any guns on a school campus.

Among the speakers at the rally were people who's lives have been touched by gun violence.

"She could have fought him off, she would have won if he hadn't had the gun," said Judy Johnson, the sister of a gun violence victim.

Organizer say after devastating shootings in Connecticut, Colorado and Oregon last year something has to change.

"I've never been so deeply touched as I was after Sandy Hook and that day was a turning point for me," said Hilary Rand with Moms Demand Action. "I used to just be a mom. Now I'm a mom and an activist."

When a couple of gun rights activists showed up at the event, the crowd rushed to the front to block their signs from media and the crowd. Police had to step in for crowd control as speakers took the stage and the confrontation heated up...."


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