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The Connecticut School Shooting has been a horrific tragedy and has really shaken up America. There's been reports that the alleged shooter has Aspergers syndrome, which is a form of Autism.

This breaks my heart that the media is painting this picture of Autism and making it out like people with autism and these disorders are "emotionless".
Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.” Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Read more: [link to nation.foxnews.com]


It concerns me that Autism is even playing a role in this shooting. For anyone who has ever worked with Autistic children they would know that these children are some of the most lovable children in the world, if they allow themselves to get close to you that is.

Don't take it from me though, take it from an expert.
"Having Asperger's or the autism spectrum... does not carry any bearing on whether or not you will become—for lack of a better term—a 'good person' in this life," notes Michael John Carley, executive director of the Global and Regional Asperger Syndrome Partnership, in a statement the organization issued. "While the majority of statistics prove that we are infinitely more prone to be the victims of violence than the perpetrators of violence, we are not immune from becoming people capable of making terrible, horrible choices." [link to www.lovethatmax.com]
In one Swedish study that compared people who committed violent or sexual offenses who had Asperger syndrome with criminals who did not, the authors concluded that violence perpetrated by someone with Asperger's is related to "similar co-occurring psychcopathology"—again, there has to be some other trigger. Drugs or substance abuse may also come into play.
Remember James Holmes? His name has come up a lot since yesterday.

The same autism finger-pointing happened with James Holmes, the man who went on a shooting rampage at a movie theater Aurora, Colorado. MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, speculating on the perpetrator, sparked widespread outrage and a change.org petition when he remarked, "Most of it has to do with mental health. You have these people that are somewhere, I believe, probably on the autism scale. I don't know if that's the case here, but if happens more often than not." Scarborough, who has a son with Asperger's, later apologized, saying he could have stated his remarks more "eloquently." [link to www.lovethatmax.com]


I am not saying what Adam Lanza did was ok, it was sick and disgusting and I hope his soul is rotting in hell, but people with Autism are not heartless and very lovable.
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And it is 'Vaccines' that cause 'Autism'.... I am inclined to blame 'Big Pharma' and the Governments of this world for pushing them on people!...... They are the 'Cold Blooded Killers!'....hfpeace
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And it is 'Vaccines' that cause 'Autism'.... I am inclined to blame 'Big Pharma' and the Governments of this world for pushing them on people!...... They are the 'Cold Blooded Killers!'....hfpeace
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I'm seeing people on social media sites claiming we should better identify people with these mental conditions. Not so they can get help of course but so we can execute them immediately. The fuck is wrong with people?
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The Connecticut School Shooting has been a horrific tragedy and has really shaken up America. There's been reports that the alleged shooter has Aspergers syndrome, which is a form of Autism.

This breaks my heart that the media is painting this picture of Autism and making it out like people with autism and these disorders are "emotionless".
Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.” Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Read more: [link to nation.foxnews.com]


It concerns me that Autism is even playing a role in this shooting. For anyone who has ever worked with Autistic children they would know that these children are some of the most lovable children in the world, if they allow themselves to get close to you that is.

Don't take it from me though, take it from an expert.
"Having Asperger's or the autism spectrum... does not carry any bearing on whether or not you will become—for lack of a better term—a 'good person' in this life," notes Michael John Carley, executive director of the Global and Regional Asperger Syndrome Partnership, in a statement the organization issued. "While the majority of statistics prove that we are infinitely more prone to be the victims of violence than the perpetrators of violence, we are not immune from becoming people capable of making terrible, horrible choices." [link to www.lovethatmax.com]
In one Swedish study that compared people who committed violent or sexual offenses who had Asperger syndrome with criminals who did not, the authors concluded that violence perpetrated by someone with Asperger's is related to "similar co-occurring psychcopathology"—again, there has to be some other trigger. Drugs or substance abuse may also come into play.
Remember James Holmes? His name has come up a lot since yesterday.

The same autism finger-pointing happened with James Holmes, the man who went on a shooting rampage at a movie theater Aurora, Colorado. MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, speculating on the perpetrator, sparked widespread outrage and a change.org petition when he remarked, "Most of it has to do with mental health. You have these people that are somewhere, I believe, probably on the autism scale. I don't know if that's the case here, but if happens more often than not." Scarborough, who has a son with Asperger's, later apologized, saying he could have stated his remarks more "eloquently." [link to www.lovethatmax.com]


I am not saying what Adam Lanza did was ok, it was sick and disgusting and I hope his soul is rotting in hell, but people with Autism are not heartless and very lovable.
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Ignorance at its best

Too many reports and BS (eg. you are quoting Fox news). Do not rush, wait patiently and get the real facts, not the media-hype and media-appetite for BS.

Do not even dare to associate autism spectrum disorders to any kind of murderous behavior. One of the tenets of ASD is the extremely shyness these people. Many of them are extremely afraid of blood, noises and so many other stuff that makes almost impossible for them to hurt anyone.

Do you want o understand the reasons behind this nightmare? read about Marx's alienation, Weber's rationalization of society or Durkheim's types of suicide.
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W/e

Retarded is now called "autistic"



Maybe the MSM wants us to be more willing to throw people into mental hospitals. What this will do is allow the state to shut up dissidents


Look up Eustace Mullins talking about that poet on YouTube?
What was that poet's name? He was "shut up".
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Thank You, OP..

As a mom with a son who has Aspergers...As well as an RN who has worked in psych wards...I KNOW that these kids can't be capable of this...unless there is an underlying disorder or mental illness...these kids can't stand to hear loud noises for one thing..I think this kid, even if diagnosed as Aspergers, which I don't think he was properly diagnosed..as some kids are not..case in point: ADD, which my son was originally DX'd with...anyway..these kids cant drive either.
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Not just autistic, anyone who is shy is a cold blooded murderer, at least as far as the media this morning.
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This is why we give babies vaccines.

Problem = Reaction = Solution

Take more freedom away from crazy people. Control the herd easier.
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So?

the "drug" was prob hours and hours of SICK video games

The parent didn't "parent"


Also didn't parent by not teaching the kid proper, responsible handling of guns. A gun club would NEVER teach kids to think of a gun in the same manner as TV, movies, and video games do.


YOUR lack of parenting does NOT mean I give up MY gun rights
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Autistic people suffer from a spiritual sickness. Autism is demonic possession combined with mankind's inherent flawed and sinful nature. Autism has become a true epidemic in this wicked age. Autism is a result of a gridlock in the spirits of those afflicted. Pray that God gives grace to some to realize the truth on this matter.
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Autistic people suffer from a spiritual sickness. Autism is demonic possession combined with mankind's inherent flawed and sinful nature. Autism has become a true epidemic in this wicked age. Autism is a result of a gridlock in the spirits of those afflicted. Pray that God gives grace to some to realize the truth on this matter.
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Are you serious? It sounds more like you are suffering from a spiritual sickness. I pray that God heals your spirit and shows you truth on this matter.
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If the shoe fits...
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Autism is terrorism!

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Not just autistic, anyone who is shy is a cold blooded murderer, at least as far as the media this morning.
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Shyness is terrorism too!

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And it is 'Vaccines' that cause 'Autism'.... I am inclined to blame 'Big Pharma' and the Governments of this world for pushing them on people!...... They are the 'Cold Blooded Killers!'....hfpeace
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+10000 ^^^^...just reading the title, I thought the same thing....


Oh, but hey everyone, we'll give you free flu shots if you trade in your guns.....
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I've worked with a number of autistic children - some of them are definitely capable of this kind of thing. But then, some of the population at large is also capable of evil to this extent.
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Autistic people suffer from a spiritual sickness. Autism is demonic possession combined with mankind's inherent flawed and sinful nature. Autism has become a true epidemic in this wicked age. Autism is a result of a gridlock in the spirits of those afflicted. Pray that God gives grace to some to realize the truth on this matter.
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Are you serious? It sounds more like you are suffering from a spiritual sickness. I pray that God heals your spirit and shows you truth on this matter.
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Autistic people are demonically possessed and mankind is inherently flawed?

Fucking original sin has a lot to answer for. Handcuffs for the mind to stunt your potential and make you think that the "normal" state of human behaviour is all the fucked up stuff we do. It's true that where men have blocked god and good out of their hearts they will do all kinds of bad things, but humans aren't born "evil" and then have to do SOMETHING to get in god's "good books".

Live your life and be free and happy as much as you can. Just be yourself, you're not evil as your base state. You are love.
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So?

the "drug" was prob hours and hours of SICK video games

The parent didn't "parent"


Also didn't parent by not teaching the kid proper, responsible handling of guns. A gun club would NEVER teach kids to think of a gun in the same manner as TV, movies, and video games do.


YOUR lack of parenting does NOT mean I give up MY gun rights
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You don't know shit about his family life anymore than the rest of us here.

I love it when people assume how others parent or have lived their lives....shows you are a judgemental fuck....you must be a terrorist. sarc/

I won't give up my gun either but, quit f-in assuming things are as you say they are.
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I'm seeing people on social media sites claiming we should better identify people with these mental conditions. Not so they can get help of course but so we can execute them immediately. The fuck is wrong with people?
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A few hours ago I had CNN on as I was doing things in the background. I was halfway listening, and I kept hearing "mental health issues" repeated over and over.

I am also noticing they are promoting the idea that people who tend to keep to themselves need to be watched.

So since people tend to parrot what they hear on the tv, we will be seeing and hearing from people that smart people are dangerous and need to be put away.
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Autistic people suffer from a spiritual sickness. Autism is demonic possession combined with mankind's inherent flawed and sinful nature. Autism has become a true epidemic in this wicked age. Autism is a result of a gridlock in the spirits of those afflicted. Pray that God gives grace to some to realize the truth on this matter.
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Like being gay???

just wow AC
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It's sick as heck. My dad, me, my 3 children have Aspergers, and the least thing we are is emotionless. It's sickening to hear. All of us are hardworking and successful with comfortable homes and great families. None of us ever committed even a petty crime...oh wait, I stole a chocolate bar in a store when I was 10.
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The Connecticut School Shooting has been a horrific tragedy and has really shaken up America. There's been reports that the alleged shooter has Aspergers syndrome, which is a form of Autism.

This breaks my heart that the media is painting this picture of Autism and making it out like people with autism and these disorders are "emotionless".
Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.” Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Read more: [link to nation.foxnews.com]


It concerns me that Autism is even playing a role in this shooting. For anyone who has ever worked with Autistic children they would know that these children are some of the most lovable children in the world, if they allow themselves to get close to you that is.

Don't take it from me though, take it from an expert.
"Having Asperger's or the autism spectrum... does not carry any bearing on whether or not you will become—for lack of a better term—a 'good person' in this life," notes Michael John Carley, executive director of the Global and Regional Asperger Syndrome Partnership, in a statement the organization issued. "While the majority of statistics prove that we are infinitely more prone to be the victims of violence than the perpetrators of violence, we are not immune from becoming people capable of making terrible, horrible choices." [link to www.lovethatmax.com]
In one Swedish study that compared people who committed violent or sexual offenses who had Asperger syndrome with criminals who did not, the authors concluded that violence perpetrated by someone with Asperger's is related to "similar co-occurring psychcopathology"—again, there has to be some other trigger. Drugs or substance abuse may also come into play.
Remember James Holmes? His name has come up a lot since yesterday.

The same autism finger-pointing happened with James Holmes, the man who went on a shooting rampage at a movie theater Aurora, Colorado. MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, speculating on the perpetrator, sparked widespread outrage and a change.org petition when he remarked, "Most of it has to do with mental health. You have these people that are somewhere, I believe, probably on the autism scale. I don't know if that's the case here, but if happens more often than not." Scarborough, who has a son with Asperger's, later apologized, saying he could have stated his remarks more "eloquently." [link to www.lovethatmax.com]


I am not saying what Adam Lanza did was ok, it was sick and disgusting and I hope his soul is rotting in hell, but people with Autism are not heartless and very lovable.
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thank you! I've been saying this all day. I'm a school psychologist, specializing in autism, and I am also the father to a child with severe autism.

This is a very unfair portrayal of those on the spectrum..
I literally cannot believe what I've been hearing lately. It sickens me.
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This whole propaganda campaign makes me really sad.

I too am shy, extremely intelligent, and have mood swings sometimes because its hard to cope with being on this really strange planet with all the violence and manipulation. I am hugely emotionally sensitive, and can read and sense other people like it's a superpower. I spend my days reading and learning endlessly, and this puts my point of view and opinions in drastic opposition to mainstream society's views. If i was observed for an extended period of time by a psychiatrist they would have me committed (those fuckers), but im just being myself, and definately NOT HURTING ANYONE. As i said above, im extremely sensitive, and i genuinely love everyone, so hurting isn't even an option.

I don't believe I'm "autistic", in fact, i think all the labels are part of the endless charade of making sure that every single human emotion or personality type is labelled a "mental disorder" by the psychiatric community. A "problem" that needs to be "reacted" to with the "solution" of numbing all feeling away from people with presciption drugs.

ONLY EMOTIONLESS ROBOTS ARE "NORMAL".

Anyone reacting in extreme manner to this extreme and confronting world, has gotta go apparently.

Fucked up.

I know this group of people is being targetted because TPTB see them as a threat. They want anyone who doesn't conform or that wants to stay on the fringes of society to be labelled the enemy and attacked by the normal people.

We can't have a group of people running around that are empathetic towards everything/one, and are intelligent enough to see through the system's manipulations.

I read in a msm report that people in the shooter's home town aren't surprised he was the killer, just because he kept to himself and "didn't connect with the high school or the town".

Guess what? I didn't fit in in high school either, and often avoid population centres. WHY? Cause when i voiced my true self in those places i was met with aggression and often even violence.

Not being a cookie cutter version of everyone is enough to have you profiled as a killer now..................

SADFACE!
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Autistic people suffer from a spiritual sickness. Autism is demonic possession combined with mankind's inherent flawed and sinful nature. Autism has become a true epidemic in this wicked age. Autism is a result of a gridlock in the spirits of those afflicted. Pray that God gives grace to some to realize the truth on this matter.
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This is what is wrong with the world. People who write things like this.
Someone who's never been in the presence of someone on the spectrum. Yet feels free to say the most terrible things they can imagine. I believe they call this trolling. I don't usually get angry about posts on here, but as a parent to a young girl with moderate autism.. I seriously would like to punch you right the fucking face.
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Autistic people suffer from a spiritual sickness. Autism is demonic possession combined with mankind's inherent flawed and sinful nature. Autism has become a true epidemic in this wicked age. Autism is a result of a gridlock in the spirits of those afflicted. Pray that God gives grace to some to realize the truth on this matter.
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Isn't Christianity a wonderful thing!

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My partner and his son have both recently been diagnosed with Aspergers. My partner is a very gentle soul who has worked as a nurse, he would not harm a fly! His son is very intelligent but has had a lot of problems fitting in at school, fortunately the right support has been given by school staff and the special needs unit.

I agree with a previous poster that there is more to this story. I suspect the killer was possibly abused or neglected. Possibly he was on a medication not right for him and it definitely sounds as if he did not have much support from the school system.

Most importantly, how was he able to get hold of such high powered weapons? Where are the checks and balances?
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It's sick as heck. My dad, me, my 3 children have Aspergers, and the least thing we are is emotionless. It's sickening to hear. All of us are hardworking and successful with comfortable homes and great families. None of us ever committed even a petty crime...oh wait, I stole a chocolate bar in a store when I was 10.
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Its the people who bully others, saying things like "retard" or "sped" that we need to worry about..

Yes, aspergers can mean "emotionless"..but not F#@*ed up.
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My partner and his son have both recently been diagnosed with Aspergers. My partner is a very gentle soul who has worked as a nurse, he would not harm a fly! His son is very intelligent but has had a lot of problems fitting in at school, fortunately the right support has been given by school staff and the special needs unit.

I agree with a previous poster that there is more to this story. I suspect the killer was possibly abused or neglected. Possibly he was on a medication not right for him and it definitely sounds as if he did not have much support from the school system.

Most importantly, how was he able to get hold of such high powered weapons? Where are the checks and balances?
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Autistic people suffer from a spiritual sickness. Autism is demonic possession combined with mankind's inherent flawed and sinful nature. Autism has become a true epidemic in this wicked age. Autism is a result of a gridlock in the spirits of those afflicted. Pray that God gives grace to some to realize the truth on this matter.
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This is what is wrong with the world. People who write things like this.
Someone who's never been in the presence of someone on the spectrum. Yet feels free to say the most terrible things they can imagine. I believe they call this trolling. I don't usually get angry about posts on here, but as a parent to a young girl with moderate autism.. I seriously would like to punch you right the fucking face.
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