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Is the MSM Making Autistic People Out To Be Cold Blooded Killers?

 
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I believe most diseases have a spiritual component. Many physical diseases are spiritual illness first, which are then made manifest in the body. It may or may not have a demonic component. Be careful if you are seeking spiritual healing. I do not believe that a simple exorcism has any long-lasting benefit. Pentecostal/charismatic type healers are often money-grubbing charlatans who will not heal you. The real work comes from within, but assistance from authentic Christian spiritual workers is helpful. Authentic Christian spiritual work is not voodoo nonsense.
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I think the fact that many physical/mental disaeases can be cured or greatly helped with the right natural medicine attests to how wrong you are.If the problem was truly spiritual it's not going to be helped by anything but spirituality.

If however it can be helped by earthly means that God has given us this disproves your theory.Common sense.
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Adam Lanza apparently also had a personality disorder. People with autism are generally non-violent to others on a large scale like this. Those with a personality disorder on the other hand, suffer symptoms such as:

Frequent mood swings
Stormy relationships
Social isolation
Angry outbursts
Suspicion and mistrust of others
Difficulty making friends
A need for instant gratification
Poor impulse control
Alcohol or substance abuse

courtesy of: [link to www.mayoclinic.com]

Where you will also see that personality disorders range from paranoid to schizotypal to anitsocial personality disorder (aka sociopath). Long story short...the kid was MESSED UP BIG TIME!!! Likely nothing to do with his autism!
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"Aspergers" = Spoiled Brats
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You don't know what you are talking about.
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Asbergers? Einstein had it. Da Vinci probably had it.
Those are some terrible people right there....

There is however an issue with misdiagnosis these days.
And there are classroom issues. But as a school psych and a masters in the feild I could talk all day about those precious kids. I love them all like they were part of my own family. They are so beautiful.
You can tell how gentle and peaceful they are the moment you meet them. They changed my life years ago, and they're still the love of my life.
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Thank you. This is truth.
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Of course they are. This isn't to take all the guns away or ban them immediately, if they did that, everyone would freak out all at once.

Gun control has been a slow, controlled process. It has to target one group at a time, systematically making it appear as thought the 2nd amendment rights are still intact for the rest of us but that for others it is taken away for "our protection."

Gun control in the U.S. mostly started the big kick off when they barred people with federal criminal records from owning a firearm. The idea was that they would convince the populous that only criminals would have this right restricted, and it was okay because it was in the effort of preventing more crime. This isn't even true because if someone truly is a criminal and wants to obtain those firearms, they will, and that firearm won't be registered to boot, so it actually only hurts us.

Same deal here, they are trying to push the idea that those who are a little too reserved, or maybe a little too "weird," and who don't fit into general society, are the ones that shouldn't own guns. They will do this by repeatedly brainwashing the populous to believe that these traits, which could merely be shyness, or in my personal experience, severe trauma which leads you to be distrustful of people, are symptoms of a greater mental disorder. Autism, aspergers, whatever, and the definition for those is only getting wider.

So they won't take your guns away just yet. But what they are trying to do is make an extremely invasive Psychiatric Evaluation mandatory for owning a gun, "to protect the children," they'll say. You'll probably get points on the "not allowed to own a gun" list for merely having children in the household, given that right now psychiatrists routinely try to get children they examine to state they feel they are in danger because Mommy or Daddy has a gun and they've been known to call CPS and target gun owners explicitly.

The DSM-V recently being released is key in this orchestration. This manual is so broad reaching it is the definition of insanity itself, literally every human emotion in the extreme and even not in the extreme at times now has a label and a medicine for it. If you refuse to cooperate with such invasive questioning of your emotional state and home life, now they can also just slap you with Obedience Defiance Disorder, which is an incredibly convenient diagnosis they've made up to unfairly label anyone with a "problem in regard to authority."

So to recap: First it starts with not allowing criminals to own guns, because who could disagree with that? Then more and more shootings begin to happen with people who are "obviously mentally ill" or who "keep to themselves" a little too much. The public has an outcry of action to be taken, and they then won't allow anyone with a "mental disorder" to own firearms, because who could disagree with that? As more and more people get labeled unfit for gun ownership, people who were found "mentally unstable" will snap and take a lawful owner's gun to commit a hideous crime like this, it soon becomes clear that we might as well outlaw guns for every citizen, because it's not stopping those mentally ill monsters from shooting up anything.

And then only criminals and politicians have guns. The populous is in awe as this does absolutely nothing for crime rates or violence and in fact probably only escalates it.

So it goes.
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Thankyou for this post OP.

I have asperger's myself and definately don't wish to harm anyone, but at the end of the day it's all about how much effort our parents put in to raise us.

I couldn't even see someone with autism doing this sort of thing... We're AFRAID of large crowds.
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Thankyou for this post OP.

I have asperger's myself and definately don't wish to harm anyone, but at the end of the day it's all about how much effort our parents put in to raise us.

I couldn't even see someone with autism doing this sort of thing... We're AFRAID of large crowds.
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I was most likely aspergers, I could sit in one spot for hours at a time making patterns with sticks or rocks or marbles or even a pile of dirt. It was a long time, many years till I finaly talked. I was a orphan too. Nothing much was known about me. I could spend hours in a library and I was suspicious of other people

It was only when I entered the job field that those sensations got better or went away.
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Most autistic children and adults are afraid of loud noises, and large crowds. I can't imagine anyone with autism doing this unless if there was some other disorder. My daughter is autistic, and she is terrified of thunder way before it ever gets close. When she hears fireworks she runs. I can't imagine her being close to a gun.
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One thing I still have thats horrible though is face blindness which made church difficult. I wouldnt recognize people I went to church for years with. I have to recognize people thru mannerisms and clothing. I still cant even recall faces of my neighbors. Its how the brain is wired.
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Autistic people suffer from a spiritual sickness. Autism is demonic possession combined with mankind's inherent flawed and sinful nature. Autism has become a true epidemic in this wicked age. Autism is a result of a gridlock in the spirits of those afflicted. Pray that God gives grace to some to realize the truth on this matter.
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If there ever was a GLP Hall Of Fame, the above quote would have to be considered the stupidest on ever. AC whoever you are, I have to say you are a total idiot
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Bravo, OP!
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Most autistic children and adults are afraid of loud noises, and large crowds. I can't imagine anyone with autism doing this unless if there was some other disorder. My daughter is autistic, and she is terrified of thunder way before it ever gets close. When she hears fireworks she runs. I can't imagine her being close to a gun.
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exactly...
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"Aspergers" = Spoiled Brats
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You don't know what you are talking about.
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Such a scathing retort you offered...
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
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i don't think adam did it, it was probably a false flag, some cia guy did it and use adam to blame it on him
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If this was an African American man that committed this crime his psyche wouldn't even be considered they'd just call him a savage lol. Lets face it, in 2012 this is the new norm for white American men. Heartless animals who kill women and children everyday. Take a look in the mirror before you judge others. You are the new Terrorist.
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Hey fuckstick,at least if i was going to call a murdering black guy a savage(your words not mine)I could back it up with facts and reasoning and make a viable case for it.You on the other hand have taken 3-4 mass shootings done by 3 white guys and say this is the new norm for white guys.Are you just stupid? There`s 120 million white guys in America and you`re saying the actions of 3-5 of them makes these actions the norm for the other 120 million? Dude think before you speak,you`re coming across as ignorant. Now to your other point,the reason a black murderer isn`t considered psycho right off the bat is because for the most part he kills during the commission of a crime,whether that be rape or robbery.He kills to avoid being Id`d.He`s obviously most concerned with not getting caught which points to a rational thought pattern.In addition, 1% of the entire US population (black males aged 18-28) commit 53% of all murders.So in review,3-5 white mass murderers out of a population base of 120 million white men are an anomaly and not the norm as you so ignorantly stated,but 1% of the population committing 53% of all murders does point these actions by blacks to be there normal behavior and that being said savage is a word that comes to mind. YOU`VE JUST BEEN SERVED HOMEBREW!!
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If this was an African American man that committed this crime his psyche wouldn't even be considered they'd just call him a savage lol. Lets face it, in 2012 this is the new norm for white American men. Heartless animals who kill women and children everyday. Take a look in the mirror before you judge others. You are the new Terrorist.
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Hey fuckstick,at least if i was going to call a murdering black guy a savage(your words not mine)I could back it up with facts and reasoning and make a viable case for it.You on the other hand have taken 3-4 mass shootings done by 3 white guys and say this is the new norm for white guys.Are you just stupid? There`s 120 million white guys in America and you`re saying the actions of 3-5 of them makes these actions the norm for the other 120 million? Dude think before you speak,you`re coming across as ignorant. Now to your other point,the reason a black murderer isn`t considered psycho right off the bat is because for the most part he kills during the commission of a crime,whether that be rape or robbery.He kills to avoid being Id`d.He`s obviously most concerned with not getting caught which points to a rational thought pattern.In addition, 1% of the entire US population (black males aged 18-28) commit 53% of all murders.So in review,3-5 white mass murderers out of a population base of 120 million white men are an anomaly and not the norm as you so ignorantly stated,but 1% of the population committing 53% of all murders does point these actions by blacks to be there normal behavior and that being said savage is a word that comes to mind. YOU`VE JUST BEEN SERVED HOMEBREW!!
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Autistic..

or sperg they are different and you will find most of them also have ADHD. Sorry I know of one and yeah they look sweet, but NO I would not allow my children near. They are not all sugar and spice. they are not what most claim them to be.
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Well considering they are born without souls, I guess it makes sense.

Oh wait, the soulless ones are Gingers...

Never mind.
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aww thanx for sharing I feel protective over kids esp lil orphans may every orphan have a good person to be his guardian angel
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Thankyou for this post OP.

I have asperger's myself and definately don't wish to harm anyone, but at the end of the day it's all about how much effort our parents put in to raise us.

I couldn't even see someone with autism doing this sort of thing... We're AFRAID of large crowds.
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I was most likely aspergers, I could sit in one spot for hours at a time making patterns with sticks or rocks or marbles or even a pile of dirt. It was a long time, many years till I finaly talked. I was a orphan too. Nothing much was known about me. I could spend hours in a library and I was suspicious of other people

It was only when I entered the job field that those sensations got better or went away.
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Autistic..

or sperg they are different and you will find most of them also have ADHD. Sorry I know of one and yeah they look sweet, but NO I would not allow my children near. They are not all sugar and spice. they are not what most claim them to be.
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There's "evil" in everyone.
So your not going to let your child near an autistic child because "they aren't all sugar and spice" well then I guess you should not allow your children near any other children.
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My heart breaks for the children and adults but I can't help but see how this is a 3-fer for TPTB.

#1 - Gun control...
#2 - Justify big pharma's agenda to drug more people (kids)...
#3 - Discredit and vilify preppers

Never let a good tragedy go to waste, right? They will milk this for all they can.
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My heart breaks for the children and adults but I can't help but see how this is a 3-fer for TPTB.

#1 - Gun control...
#2 - Justify big pharma's agenda to drug more people (kids)...
#3 - Discredit and vilify preppers

Never let a good tragedy go to waste, right? They will milk this for all they can.
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you bet they will!!
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Autistic..

or sperg they are different and you will find most of them also have ADHD. Sorry I know of one and yeah they look sweet, but NO I would not allow my children near. They are not all sugar and spice. they are not what most claim them to be.
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There's "evil" in everyone.
So your not going to let your child near an autistic child because "they aren't all sugar and spice" well then I guess you should not allow your children near any other children.
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AC, your children are going to be very lonely children. Why so much hate for these kids? Did they do something to you? They are children..human beings.

Oh, its very rare for them to have ADD...they concentrate/and or obsess to much on certain things..to perfection...get your facts straight before you shoot your mouth off.

I feel sorry for you..and your kidshf
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Apsolutly agrees dont judge a book by its covers,a person can have a face of an angel and still do bad things this is why I first check someones criminal record:if they have footage of him on camcoder on spot of crime(and not him drinking hot cacao and cleaning buggers from his nose in front of tv like he said) I imidiatly stay away from this person.

Second thing I look into is clothing:it has to be Victoria Secret all other brands are out of question.
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One thing I still have thats horrible though is face blindness which made church difficult. I wouldnt recognize people I went to church for years with. I have to recognize people thru mannerisms and clothing. I still cant even recall faces of my neighbors. Its how the brain is wired.
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Lanza was described as "numb to pain"

That's not because of an autism spectrum disorder. Sounds to me like he was living in fantasy la-la caused by SSRIs which in the last few years have been prescribed for autism spectrum disorders.
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Thankyou for this post OP.

I have asperger's myself and definately don't wish to harm anyone, but at the end of the day it's all about how much effort our parents put in to raise us.

I couldn't even see someone with autism doing this sort of thing... We're AFRAID of large crowds.
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I was most likely aspergers, I could sit in one spot for hours at a time making patterns with sticks or rocks or marbles or even a pile of dirt. It was a long time, many years till I finaly talked. I was a orphan too. Nothing much was known about me. I could spend hours in a library and I was suspicious of other people

It was only when I entered the job field that those sensations got better or went away.
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Asperger's individuals often need neurotypicals (people without Aspergers's) to help them make sense of the social world. If his mothers preppers sense played a part in his view of the world, then a bleak outlook is likely.

I know an likely Asperger's kid of 13 and he is always saying "I am a sociopath" "Mom, can I bury you in an umarked coffin when you die""what is the point in life, there is no point to anything" "I feel nothing". Yet he is able to cry, argue, get irritated. His life seems to be orientated on getting him mom to orientate her life around his glib needs.His mom just suffers in silence and will not get help and it hurts to see her be abused by his tantrums controlling behaviour. He constantly bullies her for not being perfect. What's more, he wants a gun, goes hunting, has no friends and is a loner. Do I report him as a future risk? His dad left him when he was 6 years old. He is bright at school and has a factual memory like no other. Or is this just a boy teenage thing?He does stimming,has acute hearing, taste, smell touch.
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I don't know. I see your point of course, but my nephew had all the earmarks of autism but my sister tried to get him help but then gave up too easily. Told us how "intelligent" he was and how he was on the computer all day and all night w/video games even though he'd been booted out of school for trouble making and never finished the 8th grade. Finally when she told him to turn off the computer he locked her in a room and put the computer through the wall and she called the police. I tried to talk to her about autism - He's 19 now and I never heard him speak a complete sentence. A few rare sentences over the years, but he whispered them. Anyway, after I suggested he be evaluated for some form of Autism she cut me off from seeing him again and cut herself off from the family saying she was "insulted."

So...depending on whether these kids get the right help, I think there is an open door to violence there. Parents just aren't getting the right input from doctors either. Kids are being slapped with drugs too easily.
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Asbergers? Einstein had it. Da Vinci probably had it.
Those are some terrible people right there....

There is however an issue with misdiagnosis these days.
And there are classroom issues. But as a school psych and a masters in the feild I could talk all day about those precious kids. I love them all like they were part of my own family. They are so beautiful.
You can tell how gentle and peaceful they are the moment you meet them. They changed my life years ago, and they're still the love of my life.
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Thank you. This is truth.
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First of all, Einstein and DaVinci diagnosis are about as much bullshit as Shakespeare being gay.

Secondly, autistic children are very sweet - when MANAGED right. Otherwise let's face it - you have a person with a psychiatric problem that is unpredictable.
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I don't know. I see your point of course, but my nephew had all the earmarks of autism but my sister tried to get him help but then gave up too easily. Told us how "intelligent" he was and how he was on the computer all day and all night w/video games even though he'd been booted out of school for trouble making and never finished the 8th grade. Finally when she told him to turn off the computer he locked her in a room and put the computer through the wall and she called the police. I tried to talk to her about autism - He's 19 now and I never heard him speak a complete sentence. A few rare sentences over the years, but he whispered them. Anyway, after I suggested he be evaluated for some form of Autism she cut me off from seeing him again and cut herself off from the family saying she was "insulted."

So...depending on whether these kids get the right help, I think there is an open door to violence there. Parents just aren't getting the right input from doctors either. Kids are being slapped with drugs too easily.
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The problem is partly a mother's fear of how her child might react to a formal diagnosis of autism e.g. his confidence might plummet. The mother I know is trying to protect her child from a label at the expense of him getting help. Her approach does not do him any favors what so ever. Day after day, month after month, year after year, he sits in front of the TV being served by his mom (after school). His view of the social world is that there is a clear boundary between his connections to people at school and at home. He does not associate bringing people from school into his social world at home.

Another thing is that the mother suffers depression and anxiety and is too weak to handle any form of stress. So she keeps her child protected to manage her own stress. I worry that one day he might kill her or someone. He is already talking about killing people for insurance at age 13. Fortunately, she has no life insurance.
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To an extent, yes! I know several autistic people, all seem to be very nice. Quiet, a little strange, yes. Not killers. While some of the MSM is saying that there is no link between Autism and being a killer, the point is not being brought up too often, and I think it will make some ignorant people believe that autism is the "killer's disease".

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