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Obama Mandates Black Boxes for All Cars – Beginning in 2014

 
BRIEF
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Bypassing Congress,
[ DOESN'T HE ALWAYS?!?!? ]
the Obama administration has issued a proposed administrative rule, which if adopted, would mandate the installation of “black boxes” in all automobiles and light trucks beginning in 2014.



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This pisses me off I just got a 2013 jeep last month today I was reading the owners manual and it says In addition to the vehicle manufacturer law enforcement or "other parties" can read the information if they have access to the vehicle or the EDR. My takeaway is who the hell is the other parties and they must be able to access my EDR without being near the Jeep. Scary.
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Bypassing Congress,
[ DOESN'T HE ALWAYS?!?!? ]
the Obama administration has issued a proposed administrative rule, which if adopted, would mandate the installation of “black boxes” in all automobiles and light trucks beginning in 2014.



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The mandatory chip implant for all will come right after.

Welcome to the antichrist.
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This pisses me off I just got a 2013 jeep last month today I was reading the owners manual and it says In addition to the vehicle manufacturer law enforcement or "other parties" can read the information if they have access to the vehicle or the EDR. My takeaway is who the hell is the other parties and they must be able to access my EDR without being near the Jeep. Scary.
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Yeah that's horseshit...I took a ride with a client to lunch the other day and his company car had a GPS data transmitter plugged into the OBDII computer hook up thing...that way his company knows how fast he goes, if the car is running right, and where he is at any given time.
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Bypassing Congress,
[ DOESN'T HE ALWAYS?!?!? ]
the Obama administration has issued a proposed administrative rule, which if adopted, would mandate the installation of “black boxes” in all automobiles and light trucks beginning in 2014.



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 Quoting: BRIEF


The mandatory chip implant for all will come right after.

Welcome to the antichrist.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Yeah I won't be participating in that...

Last Edited by BRIEF on 12/15/2012 02:46 PM
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Bypassing Congress,
[ DOESN'T HE ALWAYS?!?!? ]
the Obama administration has issued a proposed administrative rule, which if adopted, would mandate the installation of “black boxes” in all automobiles and light trucks beginning in 2014.



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 Quoting: BRIEF


Really?
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Bypassing Congress,
[ DOESN'T HE ALWAYS?!?!? ]
the Obama administration has issued a proposed administrative rule, which if adopted, would mandate the installation of “black boxes” in all automobiles and light trucks beginning in 2014.



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 Quoting: BRIEF



I was doing some research on this, and most cars since 1996 have the black box. Now you can remove them if you want to, but when that mandate passes in 2015 it will be against the law to remove.
Then I thought to myself I can get an old car with no CPU and then I can beat the system. I was informed by a co worker that my phone has GPS ( I knew that) and that I could still be tracked.
I feel if its not an RFID chip or a black box, or what ever micro tracking cell they pull into flu shots. We are all going to have to just deal.rant

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I sure hope I can get a few more decades out of my 1968 Volkswagen.
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just stop driving. commies back! lol
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'Black Boxes' in Cars Being Used as Court Evidence

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. -- You've likely heard of black boxes in airplanes, but they're in cars, too. They record crash info, like speed and whether the driver was buckled up.


"If the police are called to what they believe as a crime scene, they can seize anything and everything they want," Wampler said.

That is something several consumer rights groups want to change.

"We feel that the owner of the vehicle should have control over that data and it should not be accessed without his permission or without some court order," AAA Public Affairs Spokesman Mike Right said.

The government is on the brink of requiring all new cars be built with black boxes.

And many people still don't know their cars have them.
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bump
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How long will it take them to install wireless units so this data can be sent to a giant database. When that happens how long until the insurance companies pay off the right politicians so they can get access to the data base and charge based off of compiled driving data...It will be for our "safety" and the "good" of the "children"...
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How long will it take them to install wireless units so this data can be sent to a giant database. When that happens how long until the insurance companies pay off the right politicians so they can get access to the data base and charge based off of compiled driving data...It will be for our "safety" and the "good" of the "children"...
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fuck obama
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fuck obama
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fuck his black box too...
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I'm betting that there will be exceptions for government vehicles right from the start.
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I'm betting that there will be exceptions for government vehicles right from the start.
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Of course it would be unethical to track the politicians going to the wh*re houses and g*y bars. That could present a conflict of interest within the Republic and the voting public that they constantly lie to...
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Re: Obama Mandates Black Boxes for All Cars – Beginning in 2014
Just another case of King Barry overstepping his authority. He claims any power that we don't hold onto tight enough to stop him. This is another reason not to buy a new truck. I wont drive any "drive by wire" vehicle. There are just too many things that can go wrong, or be hacked. I'm an old school car guy anyway.
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Why is this news? I've already got a black box in my car. I keep my gloves and chewing gum in it. I would keep my gun in it as well, but we're not allowed to own guns...Auntie Britannia says they're bad..
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today- bump

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration rule requires all light passenger vehicles be equipped with an EDR by Sep.1, 2014. Ninety-six percent of new cars already have them -- measuring such inputs as speed, lateral acceleration, pedal effort, seat belt use, wheel spin, steering wheel turn and direction

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today- bump

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration rule requires all light passenger vehicles be equipped with an EDR by Sep.1, 2014. Ninety-six percent of new cars already have them -- measuring such inputs as speed, lateral acceleration, pedal effort, seat belt use, wheel spin, steering wheel turn and direction

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: Flameworker


Published yesterday rather..

Overlaid with GPS data, or with new D.U.I. interlock technology now under consideration for all automobiles, some say the black box could become a Pandora's box of Fourth Amendment violations against unlawful search and seizure

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DAMN!!!!!!!!!
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I can see it now

"Dear pinkshirtguy;

Our Federal EDR shows you exceeding the speed limit on multiple occasions. Due to the excessive number of infractions, effective September 15th, your drivers license is revoked. If you wish to appeal, please contact your attorney and provide him this list of offenses.

August 29th 7:10 am 36 in 35
August 29th 7:15 am 36 in 35
August 29th 7:20 am 37 in 35
August 29th 7:30 am 28 in 25
August 29th 7:35 am 11 in 10
August 29th 5:03 pm 12 in 10
August 29th 5:05 pm 26 in 25
August 29th 5:10 pm 36 in 35
August 29th 5:15 pm 37 in 35
August 29th 5:20 pm 37 in 35

Also, we have shown that you are periodically late to work by 5 minutes according to engine cutoff as recorded by the EDR. We have made accommodations at the welfare office since you will also be unemployed by September 15th due to poor punctuality.

Sincerely,

Trollbama"
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And thats exactly why I'll be driving my 2000 Xterra until it blows up or is t-boned or totaled by a text-tard at an intersection.
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yes, very handy little box, that can steer you right under a fcuking juggernaut, and don't say that isn't what they'll be used for

mouthy citizen?

get squished.

Brief, you'll be sat on top of your squish machine every time you drive. lol
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OP, you really are a fuck wit.
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I can see it now

"Dear pinkshirtguy;

Our Federal EDR shows you exceeding the speed limit on multiple occasions. Due to the excessive number of infractions, effective September 15th, your drivers license is revoked. If you wish to appeal, please contact your attorney and provide him this list of offenses.

August 29th 7:10 am 36 in 35
August 29th 7:15 am 36 in 35
August 29th 7:20 am 37 in 35
August 29th 7:30 am 28 in 25
August 29th 7:35 am 11 in 10
August 29th 5:03 pm 12 in 10
August 29th 5:05 pm 26 in 25
August 29th 5:10 pm 36 in 35
August 29th 5:15 pm 37 in 35
August 29th 5:20 pm 37 in 35

Also, we have shown that you are periodically late to work by 5 minutes according to engine cutoff as recorded by the EDR. We have made accommodations at the welfare office since you will also be unemployed by September 15th due to poor punctuality.

Sincerely,

Trollbama"
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


scary, and totally plausible
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Why is this news? I've already got a black box in my car. I keep my gloves and chewing gum in it. I would keep my gun in it as well, but we're not allowed to own guns...Auntie Britannia says they're bad..
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


the only black box in your vehicle should be the tart you're pimping out on the back seat
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Black boxes, Blackberries, white board, Redskins, orange peel, blue whale....all this racism has got to stop!

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Flip this around:

You're falsely accused of a crime. Let's say that you're Brief, a biggish white guy that looks a little stereotypical. A black family claims that you burned a cross on their lawn, and that they saw your truck there (because Brief has to drive a truck. Even if he doesn't. It's a rule, I think...).

Now, after the police lock him up for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and beat him for resisting arrest, even though he went meekly as he was supposed to, because that would be funny and ironic...

The black box in his truck shows that he wasn't anywhere near the crime scene at all, exonerating him.

If you aren't committing crimes, then having that kind of data can only help you.

*Yes, someone could frame you, but I submit that the more steps, the more points of information that the government (or whoever might do that kind of thing) has to jump through to frame you, the harder it will be for them to actually get it done.

Right now they do it pretty easily, but if you can walk into court with a hundred different things to show their fake data is not real, then it works in your favor, not against it.

So why is this bad for the average citizen? I don't commit crimes at all, and don't even speed, so why should I worry over this?

Knowing that you are being watched will just help those on the fence as far as criminal behavior to improve.

**It's ALSO draconian and oppressive, but since you don't get a choice, best to just lube up and thrust into the pumping, since your getting screwed anyway.

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