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What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...

 
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What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
Could it be, that, if the God of the Bible is real, then he probably stopped intervening in human affairs a long time ago?

So, then, it doesn't make sense when God worshippers keep saying the cause of the crazy shootings is because this Nation has kicked God out of many institutions. Because, perhaps, God knows we love free-will so much, and now he just sits back, leaves us to our own devices, and observes how we develop.

That may be the reason why so much violence happens no matter how much worshipping and praying is done. Even the strict worshippers of God, such as the Amish, are not protected from crazy killings.

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Let me try that again...

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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
What youve described is called deism. Several founding fathers believed such a thing as well.

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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
Because god is not a person or a thing, it is everything and everyone. Change must first take place in ourselves.
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I wonder how many people believe in Deism? It seems like a rare belief these days.
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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
What youve described is called deism. Several founding fathers believed such a thing as well.

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Do you believe in Deism?
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Because god is not a person or a thing, it is everything and everyone. Change must first take place in ourselves.
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So what then happens if, somehow, every single person changed to follow God?
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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
Because god is not a person or a thing, it is everything and everyone. Change must first take place in ourselves.
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Maybe that. Or maybe what is required for the next phase of life is the acknowledgement and acceptance of our own mortality.
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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
Because god is not a person or a thing, it is everything and everyone. Change must first take place in ourselves.
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Maybe that. Or maybe what is required for the next phase of life is the acknowledgement and acceptance of our own mortality.
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But what about the seriously mentally challenged? Do they have the ability to acknowledge and accept our own mortality? And if they don't (which I think is the case) then, they can't get to the next phase?
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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
I wonder how many people believe in Deism? It seems like a rare belief these days.
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There's quite a few of us. The problem is that the unthinking masses automatically equate God with religion, and can't get their head around the possibility of a 'secular god'.

Hence, it's easier just to not talk about it.
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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
I don't believe that any higher power/force is influencing/interfering/manipulating the events that unfold in our world - although I do believe there is a higher power/force. We were given 100% free will to grow & evolve as our own actions & intent dictate... That is the beauty of the Creation....

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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
Could it be, that, if the God of the Bible is real, then he probably stopped intervening in human affairs a long time ago?

So, then, it doesn't make sense when God worshippers keep saying the cause of the crazy shootings is because this Nation has kicked God out of many institutions. Because, perhaps, God knows we love free-will so much, and now he just sits back, leaves us to our own devices, and observes how we develop.

That may be the reason why so much violence happens no matter how much worshipping and praying is done. Even the strict worshippers of God, such as the Amish, are not protected from crazy killings.
 Quoting: Think Critically for Truth


genesis
6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

But now all of us are the enemy of the Father through sin, until we have faith in his son Jesus as our saviour.
ROMANS 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
I wonder how many people believe in Deism? It seems like a rare belief these days.
 Quoting: Think Critically for Truth


There's quite a few of us. The problem is that the unthinking masses automatically equate God with religion, and can't get their head around the possibility of a 'secular god'.

Hence, it's easier just to not talk about it.
 Quoting: Smith Jefferys


And the fact that humans are naturally weak-minded, (we need each other in order to cope with problems) means it's easier to want to believe in a God that we think might help us, regarding any and all problems.
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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
I think gods work schedual is allready filled with keeping you from blowing yourself up.
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I think gods work schedual is allready filled with keeping you from blowing yourself up.
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Yes, and the world will end on Dec. 21st.

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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
Could it be, that, if the God of the Bible is real, then he probably stopped intervening in human affairs a long time ago?

So, then, it doesn't make sense when God worshippers keep saying the cause of the crazy shootings is because this Nation has kicked God out of many institutions. Because, perhaps, God knows we love free-will so much, and now he just sits back, leaves us to our own devices, and observes how we develop.

That may be the reason why so much violence happens no matter how much worshipping and praying is done. Even the strict worshippers of God, such as the Amish, are not protected from crazy killings.
 Quoting: Think Critically for Truth


genesis
6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

But now all of us are the enemy of the Father through sin, until we have faith in his son Jesus as our saviour.
ROMANS 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
 Quoting: Understudy 29954277


There we go.
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Re: What if...God already abandoned us hundreds of years ago...
I don't believe that any higher power/force is influencing/interfering/manipulating the events that unfold in our world - although I do believe there is a higher power/force. We were given 100% free will to grow & evolve as our own actions & intent dictate... That is the beauty of the Creation....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Your belief is pretty much the same as mine then.
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