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Adam Lanza Natal Chart Very and Oddly Similar to that of Adolf Hitler.. Explanations/Discussions Here..

 
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Adam Lanza Natal Chart Very and Oddly Similar to that of Adolf Hitler.. Explanations/Discussions Here..
Salutations, as OP i am obliged to post Astrotheme.com's original data on his natal planetary positions/aspects. It would not be necessary to look at their birthdates per se, but rather the similar elemental configurations in their Solar and Lunar positions.

Here are the links to Adam Lanza's and Adolf Hitler's natal dispositions..



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Re: Adam Lanza Natal Chart Very and Oddly Similar to that of Adolf Hitler.. Explanations/Discussions Here..
Greeting to you, Op, from one astro lover to another! I've also noticed the Sun/Taurus, Moon/Capp placements in both charts, and am aware, per Joanne Wickenburg's analysis of psychopaths that fall under the Moon/Capricorn placements. Of course, there is a wide difference between both individuals, including age and racial background.

In Lanza's chart, his Moon/Capricorn is also conjuncting Retro Uranus and Retro Neptune and, with the spark from transiting Uranus/Aries (squaring his natal Moon and Retro Uranus & Retro Neptune in Cappy placements, I think it is safe to say that things were triggered within him to move in that direction. Also, with transiting Retro Neptune/Pisces conjuncting his natal Mars/Pisces placement, his delusions brought on by these very unusual transits and placements were the driving force in which he enacted and carried out his heinous crimes. He also has his natal Mercury and Venus placements in Aries, the "I AM" persona of the zodiac, and while there are reports that he was 'shy' and 'underdeveloped', I feel sure that he was very much in love with his own self and mind. I'm also willing to bet that he 'was not himself' during the acts, but was soon snapped back to himself afterwards which, in all instances, would then prompt him to take his own life. His crimes were of a short spree, were ones of delusion and then he promptly ended his own life -- a far cry from Adolf Hitler, the murderous master planner of death and devastation.

In Hitler's chart, His natal Moon/Cappy conjuncts Jupiter, the planet of Luck, Higher Religion, Judges and Long-distance Travel; this placement, however, is also in Square aspect to his Mercury in Aries, showing the schism of mind that would later sideline him from his autocratic goals and aims, although he would in fact experience some luck in rising to the heights. His Sun, although early in Taurus, is also Parallel and right beside his Mercury/Aries placement and thus firmly set and in line with his other Taurus placements (Sun, Mars and Venus). It has been noted that those with natal Mars in Taurus are BEATERS or are abusers and batterers of some type; they like to hit, to put it lightly. Mars/Taurus in the natal chart is also indicative of some type of abuse that has either happened to the native, or abuse that the native forces upon others -- be it physical, mental, emotional or sexual. With Hitler's Ascendant being Libra, and with Retro-Uranus in Libra and on the horizon at his birth, his life would therefore be ruled by chaos and sudden events (Uranus as life ruler) and with Venus as ruler of Libra, co-life ruler would be, believe it or not .... LOVE! Although Herr Hitler was a psychopath whose crimes were forced on a large part of humanity, he did these acts out of a 'love' for his country and his fellow-kind, wanting Germany to be the master race of the world. That to say it is a type of warped love does not even touch the bottom of the well, but that this was a type of 'love' for him was very true. More, with Retro-Urans in Libra opposing his natal Mercury/Aries his mind would become unhinged and would be seen by all, even those still loyal to the regime and no longer able to ignore the signs of his true derangement. Retro-Uranus is also CULMINATING/ending, and this is an Anaretic and DEATH-BRINGING point in the horoscope. Thus, Adolf Hitler was a monstrous murderer, bringing death, endings and chaos to millions of people, both in his own country and in surrounding areas, and even reaching to the farthest regions of the world. Reportedly, when he knew his regime had failed and the end was near, he chose to take the coward's way out, also, by ending his own life. His crimes were of very long duration, also brought about by delusions of the mind and psyche, and he wreaked havoc upon countries and countless millions of human beings.

The similarities between Lanza and Hitler are therefore minimal, but it is interesting to note their similar Sun and Moon placements with their respective aspects, and the other coordinating similar angles within their charts. Both may serve as warnings to us all -- especially where the natal chart is afflicted by malefics and hard aspects -- and to know and understand how these stellar and astro positions affect us all, especially during very hard and strong transits, that often set off certain energies which then have influences upon events in our lives.

The very best way to offset harsh transits and aspects to the natl chart is to just strive to be better human beings for the betterment of all.

Blessings!hf
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Re: Adam Lanza Natal Chart Very and Oddly Similar to that of Adolf Hitler.. Explanations/Discussions Here..
Hi again! Here is a link that shows the planets' and sign positions for the event date (yesterday).
[link to www.keen.com]

Of special note is the Moon/Capp and Mars/Capp placements, which were in conjunct aspect to Lanza's own natal positions, along with the power planet Pluto (aka THE DESTROYER), all in Capricorn. The Moon and Mars, chiefly, were the direct catalysts which triggered the emotional storms and conflicts within the mind and psyche of Lanza - especially more so the Moon, which primarily acts as a catalyst in events. Secondly would be the planet Mars, which is the planet of dynamic action and aggression and is a type of 'instigator', and Uranus, which is the planet of sudden events, actions and accidents.

Transiting Uranus in Aries also conjucted his natal Mercury and Venus placements in Aries ("I AM"), urging him on in his crazed acting out. The big 'player' in the astro events of the day was therefore Capricorn, buoyed by the transiting Moon, Mars and Pluto in conjunction with Lanza's own natal placements of Moon, Retro-Uranus, and Retro Neptune, Neptune being a side-influence, albeit very strong, as it had just turned Direct from being in Retrograde mode for so long. Neptune, for what it's worth, rules illusion, delusions, the psyche, drugs and alcohol, drug states, mental states, hospitals, prisons, confinement, fantasy, metaphysics, the film and celluloid industries and all things intangible. No matter, then, someone of his mind and carriage astro-wise would be hard-pressed to resist all of the above-mentioned astro influences and energies. Nonetheless, this does not make his crimes any less nor should he not be excused or not held accountable for his actions against innocents.

Blessings! hf

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