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woo! hell yeah! guns everywhere!

i dont know what the answer is to america's woeful gun homicide rate is but what a miserable life it would be if we all felt the need to carry a gun
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They say, "it takes a village to raise the children". Well there are violent marauders running about slaughtering our babies! The village needs to group gather resources recoup and cause these marauders to fear attacking the village! Yes, it's that fucking simple.

It's our job to protect the childen! What better way that to overcome in a moment of strife! The method of arming ourselves is more than a politico about weapons! It's fucking self reliance 101!!!

Children of today are being brainwashed to depend on the system for everything just as the anti-gun dipshits in this thread do!

DEPEND ON YOURSELVES! NOT OTHERS!

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This post is the last straw for me and i think alot of people. Is this how low this site has gone, you mey aswell just post that your going to piss on the graves of the 20 kids just shot. Ill leave you to your immature insipid website.
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They would be alive if the teachers were armed as our forefathers intended.
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Maybe a good idea would be to have all sane adults to carry a firearm at all times. It would be like the old west but a crazy person shooting folks at random would not be able to do so much damage before being gunned down.
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*5 and a bump for the Chipster
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This post is the last straw for me and i think alot of people. Is this how low this site has gone, you mey aswell just post that your going to piss on the graves of the 20 kids just shot. Ill leave you to your immature insipid website.
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They would be alive if the teachers were armed as our forefathers intended.
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Maybe a good idea would be to have all sane adults to carry a firearm at all times. It would be like the old west but a crazy person shooting folks at random would not be able to do so much damage before being gunned down.
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Definately a step in the right direction!
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Be it enacted, That section three of the Act... approved June 15, 1917, be... amended so as to read as follows:

"SEC. 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall wilfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall wilfully make or convey false reports, or false statements, or say or do anything except by way of bona fide and not disloyal advice to an investor... with intent to obstruct the sale by the United States of bonds... or the making of loans by or to the United States, or whoever, when the United States is at war, shall wilfully cause... or incite... insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall wilfully obstruct... the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall wilfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag... or the uniform of the Army or Navy of the United States, or any language intended to bring the form of government... or the Constitution... or the military or naval forces... or the flag... of the United States into contempt, scorn, contumely, or disrepute... or shall wilfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall wilfully... urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production in this country of any thing or things... necessary or essential to the prosecution of the war... and whoever shall wilfully advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favour the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both...."
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Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
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The Following is a Paper I wrote for School A few weeks ago.


Benjamin Franklin said “Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.”

No one ever said freedom was safe. In fact, upon true realization and understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that true freedom is actually the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guaranties in freedom. The only security one can have in a truly free environment is security they provide for themselves at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Last year, in Wisconsin, the “concealed carry” law passed, allowing people who attain the proper license to carry a concealed firearm. I believe that this is a step in the right direction, giving the law abiding citizen the freedom to defend themselves against a criminal. The concealed carry law serves as more of a crime deterrent. What kind of criminal would attempt to victimize a citizen that might be able to effectively defend themselves against the crime? Criminals already have blatant disregard for the law, and in the case where guns would be made illegal by the law, do you really think that criminals would just give up their guns based on the laws they already disregard? No! The only persons affected by oppressive gun control laws is the law abiding citizen, whom, in that case, would no longer be able to effectively defend themselves against the illegal gun toting criminal. In fact, the U.S. Department of Justice conducted research on 2000 felons. Of these felons, it was found that 34% had been “wounded or captured by an armed victim”, and 40% admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime in the first place because they feared the potential victim was armed.

As of March 2012, there are only 2 places in the U.S. that have prohibited concealed carry; Washington D.C., and Illinois. Go look up the crime rates in those places yourself, Chicago in particular. There are different classifications that states can use to establish their concealed carry laws. There are “Shall Issue” states, where issuing authorities are required to issue a permit to any applicant that meets the objective statutory criteria. There are “may issue” states, which are stricter than the fore mentioned because of how they classify certain disqualifying felonies, or they have different firearms training requirements. And finally there are “no permit required” states. Four states fall into this category, including Vermont, Wyoming, Arizona and Alaska.

Florida has set the standard for the “shall issue” model. Since they adopted a concealed carry law in 1987, the overall crime rate has dropped 32% and the homicide rate has dropped 58%. Also, by 2009, Florida had issued 1,360,000 permits, of which only 165 had been revoked due to crimes by the permit holder. That is less than .02%. I would say that those numbers speak scores as to the reliability and discretion of the eligibility requirements, as well as to the effectiveness of such laws overall. ¬

Criminals are criminals, and they will always be a part of this world. Sure, we can imagine, and work towards an ideal future, but in order to achieve this ideal future, we must take into consideration the reality we actually exist in today, without the ideals. Unless one can travel back in time, and un-invent the gun, guns are going to be a permanent part of our reality. We must consider this in our imagined ideal future, and integrate them into our vision. I believe that the concealed carry laws are moving us closer to this realization. Remember, there are no guarantees in true freedom. How free do you want to be?


Needless to say, my instructor (from the UK, mind you) did not like it so much.

Last Edited by Tantalus on 12/15/2012 07:45 PM
"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control

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Can't get rid of guns until we get rid of these criminal leaders and their henchmen.
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I had a neighbor in Chicago who bought a shotgun and not more then 2 weeks later two people attempted to break into his home..it was around 2 am and he heard them trying to break in the front door, he yelled I have a gun and they laughed, he proceeded to call the police but they got the front door open and kicked thru the screen...he was in the hallway and he cocked the gun...they heard that and took off like little bats in the night...they were lucky he didn't shoot thru the door. He didn't shoot the gun but he scared them with it.
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Be it enacted, That section three of the Act... approved June 15, 1917, be... amended so as to read as follows:

"SEC. 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall wilfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall wilfully make or convey false reports, or false statements, or say or do anything except by way of bona fide and not disloyal advice to an investor... with intent to obstruct the sale by the United States of bonds... or the making of loans by or to the United States, or whoever, when the United States is at war, shall wilfully cause... or incite... insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall wilfully obstruct... the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall wilfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag... or the uniform of the Army or Navy of the United States, or any language intended to bring the form of government... or the Constitution... or the military or naval forces... or the flag... of the United States into contempt, scorn, contumely, or disrepute... or shall wilfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall wilfully... urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production in this country of any thing or things... necessary or essential to the prosecution of the war... and whoever shall wilfully advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favour the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both...."
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Can't get rid of guns until we get rid of these criminal leaders and their henchmen.
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The globalist elite have taken hold! Our enemy is not our government! It's corrupt globalist banks! Amen!
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Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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The Following is a Paper I wrote for School A few weeks ago.


Benjamin Franklin said “Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.”

No one ever said freedom was safe. In fact, upon true realization and understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that true freedom is actually the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guaranties in freedom. The only security one can have in a truly free environment is security they provide for themselves at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Last year, in Wisconsin, the “concealed carry” law passed, allowing people who attain the proper license to carry a concealed firearm. I believe that this is a step in the right direction, giving the law abiding citizen the freedom to defend themselves against a criminal. The concealed carry law serves as more of a crime deterrent. What kind of criminal would attempt to victimize a citizen that might be able to effectively defend themselves against the crime? Criminals already have blatant disregard for the law, and in the case where guns would be made illegal by the law, do you really think that criminals would just give up their guns based on the laws they already disregard? No! The only persons affected by oppressive gun control laws is the law abiding citizen, whom, in that case, would no longer be able to effectively defend themselves against the illegal gun toting criminal. In fact, the U.S. Department of Justice conducted research on 2000 felons. Of these felons, it was found that 34% had been “wounded or captured by an armed victim”, and 40% admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime in the first place because they feared the potential victim was armed.

As of March 2012, there are only 2 places in the U.S. that have prohibited concealed carry; Washington D.C., and Illinois. Go look up the crime rates in those places yourself, Chicago in particular. There are different classifications that states can use to establish their concealed carry laws. There are “Shall Issue” states, where issuing authorities are required to issue a permit to any applicant that meets the objective statutory criteria. There are “may issue” states, which are stricter than the fore mentioned because of how they classify certain disqualifying felonies, or they have different firearms training requirements. And finally there are “no permit required” states. Four states fall into this category, including Vermont, Wyoming, Arizona and Alaska.

Florida has set the standard for the “shall issue” model. Since they adopted a concealed carry law in 1987, the overall crime rate has dropped 32% and the homicide rate has dropped 58%. Also, by 2009, Florida had issued 1,360,000 permits, of which only 165 had been revoked due to crimes by the permit holder. That is less than .02%. I would say that those numbers speak scores as to the reliability and discretion of the eligibility requirements, as well as to the effectiveness of such laws overall. ¬

Criminals are criminals, and they will always be a part of this world. Sure, we can imagine, and work towards an ideal future, but in order to achieve this ideal future, we must take into consideration the reality we actually exist in today, without the ideals. Unless one can travel back in time, and un-invent the gun, guns are going to be a permanent part of our reality. We must consider this in our imagined ideal future, and integrate them into our vision. I believe that the concealed carry laws are moving us closer to this realization. Remember, there are no guarantees in true freedom. How free do you want to be?


Needless to say, my instructor (from the UK, mind you) did not like it so much.
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That's friggin awesome bro! Good work!
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Exactly. When tragedies involving guns occur, anti-gun activists use it as a platform to support stricter gun control and bans. Ok... I look it at it as even more of a reason NOT to attack our 2nd amendment rights.

Taking this most recent tragedy in CT.. I feel for the families. Words don't express how horrible it is, truly. However, what if the teachers and faculty had been allowed to cc at the school? Could this have then been prevented? Simple answer: Yes.
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So they gave guns to mexican drug lords but now theres talk of good folks of the u.s. might loose some guns.Fuck off you stupid fucking assholes.I believe someone has to man up and start over with the whole goverment thing since the present goverment is going to get us all killed.What a fucking joke.
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So they gave guns to mexican drug lords but now theres talk of good folks of the u.s. might loose some guns.Fuck off you stupid fucking assholes.I believe someone has to man up and start over with the whole goverment thing since the present goverment is going to get us all killed.What a fucking joke.
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Yes it appears that banning weapons for protection is counter productive doesn't it? That's my position! It's down right wrong!
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You really must consider why the shooter in CT chose the target that he did. Im sure that one of the major reasons he probably chose this target was because of the high probability that there would be no one there with a gun to shoot back at him.

Last Edited by Tantalus on 12/15/2012 08:05 PM
"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control

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Other Interesting Threads by Tantalus:
Thread: The Real Secret of the Pentagram - Venus Transit - 6/6/12 - and ISON
Thread: Anunnaki, Nibiru, Brown Dwarfs, and Gravitational Time Dilation
Thread: Amazing Connection!! The Great Pyramid was a Weapon. Valles Marineris the Result?
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You really must consider why the shooter in CT chose the target that he did. Im sure that one of the major reasons he probably chose this target was because of the high probability that there would be no one there with a gun to shoot back at him.
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Yeah! Why didn't this nutter fuck choose a gun club?
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This thread exists to clear out the gun culture brainwashing mind fuck! When your village is attacked do you send a message to the enemy saying "we abhore guns and relinquish them entirely?" Or do you tell the enemy...."We're gonna arm ourselves better than you and fuck you up at every turn!" YOU LOSE BITCH!
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He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda! ~David Mills ~ Se7en

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Doing our part here .5a
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It is easy to see why a crazy, mind fucked parasite on SSRI's would choose a school. SOFT TARGET. GUN FREE ZONE. When seconds count the police are only minutes away. To all the Liberal brainwashed panzies I offer thisfuckoff2

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Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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EXACTLY!!! You rock!! We need to use this against them. Notice how both shooters had dads in high profile, big jobs??

Illuminati's hands all over this - plus the date.

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3+5+3=11

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Its a tough one, americans are passionite about their firearms, maybe you should get rid of the heavy duty weapons though i know immediately you think i am an asshole, whatever, give americans their guns but only pistols, only takes one shot to stop a crazy coming for your life.
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More crimes are committed by handguns every year than any other weapon.... So now you want an increase in crime?

How about we have no regulation, arm everyone and have some god you believe in sort it out....

(sarcasm )
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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PICK ONE!!!!

FYI: When I say arm everybody I am not including felons.

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Let me see where you stand on this: purely hypothetical

John doe can't afford his drivers license renewal fees because he has major business license renewal fees because they have doubled in the last 12 months. He's met all other financial req's during this time period...barely.

John is driving home on an expired license, in the rain and clips a pedestrian on a rainy night, the pedestrian is wearing no reflective clothing and jaywalking....

John gets charged with a felony.

According to your mindset, John loses his rights to own a gun!. He's a felon now. He's worked and been a producer thought this fucked economy, employs people and you punish him twice through the courts by traffic violations... And then gun rights!

That's skewed.
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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Re: Time to ARM everybody in order to save the children!!!
I wonder how many guns they sold today.....

and yeah, I agree, arm/train as many people as possible......

all the mass killings happen in 'gun free zones'.....
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12/15/2012 08:30 PM

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Re: Time to ARM everybody in order to save the children!!!
Once the honest citizen is disarmed the criminals will lose all fear. Home invasions by armed thugs will explode. Especially at night.....
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True, in Stockton(Ca), about an hour and a half from me, the level of criminal activity is quickly reaching those conditions. And don't go to San Bernardino unless you have a death wish.
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12/15/2012 08:36 PM
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Its a tough one, americans are passionite about their firearms, maybe you should get rid of the heavy duty weapons though i know immediately you think i am an asshole, whatever, give americans their guns but only pistols, only takes one shot to stop a crazy coming for your life.
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More crimes are committed by handguns every year than any other weapon.... So now you want an increase in crime?

How about we have no regulation, arm everyone and have some god you believe in sort it out....

(sarcasm )
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Honestly, you must choose your words carefully. Crimes are not commited "by guns" as you say, rather, "using guns". Do you see how that changes the meaning? As far as I know, a gun dosent choose to do anything, rather, the person behind it makes the choice. Do you like your internet? You could just as effectively mess up someones life whom you have never met mis-using the internet, from thousands of miles away. I dont see you saying "ban the internet". You see, it is the person behind the keyboard, not the computer, or the internet, that makes the choice.

Last Edited by Tantalus on 12/15/2012 08:41 PM
"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
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No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

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Re: Time to ARM everybody in order to save the children!!!
You really must consider why the shooter in CT chose the target that he did. Im sure that one of the major reasons he probably chose this target was because of the high probability that there would be no one there with a gun to shoot back at him.
 Quoting: Tantalus


Yeah! Why didn't this nutter fuck choose a gun club?
 Quoting: Chip

Unfortunately Chip you are correct.
If you had a crazy stalker after you and wanted to keep him away, would you hang a sign on your lawn saying "this is a gun free zone" ? I doubt it.

I think we need to make it a requirement for schools to have 3 or 5 teacher's trained and packing.

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