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Time to ARM everybody in order to save the children!!!

 
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Banning weapons will foment the untimely death of more innocent people. Yes, you read correctly! ARM EVERYBODY! That way people have a fighting chance against the nutjobs who go postal!!! Attempting to take firearms away from the law abiding citizens will only embolden the armed criminal element and give them an added boost of confidence.

FACTS: There are too many weapons in the USA to ever confiscate. Weapons confiscation cannot happen without causing mass death of law enforcement officers and gun owners. Weapons can be constructed, designed and fabricated in a garage with simple tools. People will ALWAYS have access to guns. It's eternal...accept it! Seriously accept it!

The utopian idea that weapons can be removed from the equation is unrealistic and any attempt to force removal will end up in mass death.

Here are the choices: Arm everybody and let that bloodbath begin, or disarm everybody and let that bloodbath begin.

PICK ONE!!!!

FYI: When I say arm everybody I am not including felons.

I have to run for now...but perhaps this thread will make you think!
 Quoting: Chip


YES-- everyone should be armed.

some have said that this is all a setup for gun control
how stupid

they should ban brain drugs not guns.
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Its a tough one, americans are passionite about their firearms, maybe you should get rid of the heavy duty weapons though i know immediately you think i am an asshole, whatever, give americans their guns but only pistols, only takes one shot to stop a crazy coming for your life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29985099


More crimes are committed by handguns every year than any other weapon.... So now you want an increase in crime?

How about we have no regulation, arm everyone and have some god you believe in sort it out....

(sarcasm )
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Honestly, you must choose your words carefully. Crimes are not commited "by guns" as you say, rather, "using guns". Do you see how that changes the meaning? As far as I know, a gun dosent choose to do anything, rather, the person behind it makes the choice. Do you like your internet? You could just as effectively mess up someones life whom you have never met mis-using the internet, from thousands of miles away. I dont see you saying "ban the internet". You see, it is the person behind the keyboard, not the computer, or the internet, that makes the choice.
 Quoting: Tantalus


You missed the sarcasm,.

Criminals prefer handguns, easy to carry rather than a rifle. The poster I quoted wants handguns only allowed without showing that rifles are statistically much safer per crime statistics...
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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34 "The coming of the Son of Man can be compared with that of a man who left home to go on a trip. He gave each of his employees instructions about the work they were to do, and he told the gatekeeper to watch for his return. Mark13
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Its a tough one, americans are passionite about their firearms, maybe you should get rid of the heavy duty weapons though i know immediately you think i am an asshole, whatever, give americans their guns but only pistols, only takes one shot to stop a crazy coming for your life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29985099


More crimes are committed by handguns every year than any other weapon.... So now you want an increase in crime?

How about we have no regulation, arm everyone and have some god you believe in sort it out....

(sarcasm )
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Honestly, you must choose your words carefully. Crimes are not commited "by guns" as you say, rather, "using guns". Do you see how that changes the meaning? As far as I know, a gun dosent choose to do anything, rather, the person behind it makes the choice. Do you like your internet? You could just as effectively mess up someones life whom you have never met mis-using the internet, from thousands of miles away. I dont see you saying "ban the internet". You see, it is the person behind the keyboard, not the computer, or the internet, that makes the choice.
 Quoting: Tantalus


You missed the sarcasm,.

Criminals prefer handguns, easy to carry rather than a rifle. The poster I quoted wants handguns only allowed without showing that rifles are statistically much safer per crime statistics...
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Apologies. Still, point made.
"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
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No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

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More crimes are committed by handguns every year than any other weapon.... So now you want an increase in crime?

How about we have no regulation, arm everyone and have some god you believe in sort it out....

(sarcasm )
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Honestly, you must choose your words carefully. Crimes are not commited "by guns" as you say, rather, "using guns". Do you see how that changes the meaning? As far as I know, a gun dosent choose to do anything, rather, the person behind it makes the choice. Do you like your internet? You could just as effectively mess up someones life whom you have never met mis-using the internet, from thousands of miles away. I dont see you saying "ban the internet". You see, it is the person behind the keyboard, not the computer, or the internet, that makes the choice.
 Quoting: Tantalus


You missed the sarcasm,.

Criminals prefer handguns, easy to carry rather than a rifle. The poster I quoted wants handguns only allowed without showing that rifles are statistically much safer per crime statistics...
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Apologies. Still, point made.
 Quoting: Tantalus


hf
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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Banning weapons will foment the untimely death of more innocent people. Yes, you read correctly! ARM EVERYBODY! That way people have a fighting chance against the nutjobs who go postal!!! Attempting to take firearms away from the law abiding citizens will only embolden the armed criminal element and give them an added boost of confidence.

FACTS: There are too many weapons in the USA to ever confiscate. Weapons confiscation cannot happen without causing mass death of law enforcement officers and gun owners. Weapons can be constructed, designed and fabricated in a garage with simple tools. People will ALWAYS have access to guns. It's eternal...accept it! Seriously accept it!

The utopian idea that weapons can be removed from the equation is unrealistic and any attempt to force removal will end up in mass death.

Here are the choices: Arm everybody and let that bloodbath begin, or disarm everybody and let that bloodbath begin.

PICK ONE!!!!

FYI: When I say arm everybody I am not including felons.

I have to run for now...but perhaps this thread will make you think!
 Quoting: Chip


There's no need for a bloodbath!



Pick up a rose and go downtown and fight the hate with love. It's the only way to finally conquer this fucked up world!

And get rid of all your fucking guns!!!!
 Quoting: Norseman2083


But that is the whole point. The reality is that the guns will not disappear. I wish they would! I've been all about PEACE my whole life.

It's just enough to make you cry.
 Quoting: Sloane


I see your point and I sort of agree to. But in the end of the day - peace and love is the only thing who'll bring humanity a step forward. The only thing we are really really REALLY good at is killing other people. Ourself!
abombdoomsolmacgunTankdark

Bring that effort into more peacefull thinking and activity - and mankind would rise a level as a specie.

alien03grouphug

Melt all your guns an bring on the flowers! u2efineflowerdasbierflowas

And those who won't listen...... hang 'em in a tree for the crows, and then melt their guns too!

sfanslaphimviolin

It would work!

And then......

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the majority of mass shootings are done using semi-auto handguns and assault rifles. The vast majority of guns used in those shootings were legally acquired.

There are more guns in the US now than ever before, and 2012 was the deadliest year for mass shootings.

More guns in US has not reduced the number of mass shootings.

Gun bans won't work, either, but regulated access can and does work.

Access to the 2 most used weapons in mass shootings must be refined. People should still be able to own them, but they should have to go through a process to weed out the nutcases.

I have to complete an extensive drivers test and then prove my ability to operate a car to be get a driver's license.

Semi-auto handguns and assault rifles need similar regulations.
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Banning weapons will foment the untimely death of more innocent people. Yes, you read correctly! ARM EVERYBODY! That way people have a fighting chance against the nutjobs who go postal!!! Attempting to take firearms away from the law abiding citizens will only embolden the armed criminal element and give them an added boost of confidence.

FACTS: There are too many weapons in the USA to ever confiscate. Weapons confiscation cannot happen without causing mass death of law enforcement officers and gun owners. Weapons can be constructed, designed and fabricated in a garage with simple tools. People will ALWAYS have access to guns. It's eternal...accept it! Seriously accept it!

The utopian idea that weapons can be removed from the equation is unrealistic and any attempt to force removal will end up in mass death.

Here are the choices: Arm everybody and let that bloodbath begin, or disarm everybody and let that bloodbath begin.

PICK ONE!!!!

FYI: When I say arm everybody I am not including felons.

I have to run for now...but perhaps this thread will make you think!
 Quoting: Chip


There's no need for a bloodbath!



Pick up a rose and go downtown and fight the hate with love. It's the only way to finally conquer this fucked up world!

And get rid of all your fucking guns!!!!
 Quoting: Norseman2083


Sorry but it would require more than giving up guns and gathering in peaceful protest to transform a world controlled by would be oppressors. Look at history:


 Quoting: Nyarlathotep


We know the history. We don't have to repeat it!

We have knowledge not to - if we want.

Melt your guns! Someone have to pick up the spirit that Norway showed was possible!

Please!!
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the majority of mass shootings are done using semi-auto handguns and assault rifles. The vast majority of guns used in those shootings were legally acquired.

There are more guns in the US now than ever before, and 2012 was the deadliest year for mass shootings.

More guns in US has not reduced the number of mass shootings.

Gun bans won't work, either, but regulated access can and does work.

Access to the 2 most used weapons in mass shootings must be refined. People should still be able to own them, but they should have to go through a process to weed out the nutcases.

I have to complete an extensive drivers test and then prove my ability to operate a car to be get a driver's license.

Semi-auto handguns and assault rifles need similar regulations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522


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Banning weapons will foment the untimely death of more innocent people. Yes, you read correctly! ARM EVERYBODY! That way people have a fighting chance against the nutjobs who go postal!!! Attempting to take firearms away from the law abiding citizens will only embolden the armed criminal element and give them an added boost of confidence.

FACTS: There are too many weapons in the USA to ever confiscate. Weapons confiscation cannot happen without causing mass death of law enforcement officers and gun owners. Weapons can be constructed, designed and fabricated in a garage with simple tools. People will ALWAYS have access to guns. It's eternal...accept it! Seriously accept it!

The utopian idea that weapons can be removed from the equation is unrealistic and any attempt to force removal will end up in mass death.

Here are the choices: Arm everybody and let that bloodbath begin, or disarm everybody and let that bloodbath begin.

PICK ONE!!!!

FYI: When I say arm everybody I am not including felons.

I have to run for now...but perhaps this thread will make you think!
 Quoting: Chip


There's no need for a bloodbath!



Pick up a rose and go downtown and fight the hate with love. It's the only way to finally conquer this fucked up world!

And get rid of all your fucking guns!!!!
 Quoting: Norseman2083


But that is the whole point. The reality is that the guns will not disappear. I wish they would! I've been all about PEACE my whole life.

It's just enough to make you cry.
 Quoting: Sloane


I see your point and I sort of agree to. But in the end of the day - peace and love is the only thing who'll bring humanity a step forward. The only thing we are really really REALLY good at is killing other people. Ourself!
abombdoomsolmacgunTankdark

Bring that effort into more peacefull thinking and activity - and mankind would rise a level as a specie.

alien03grouphug

Melt all your guns an bring on the flowers! u2efineflowerdasbierflowas

And those who won't listen...... hang 'em in a tree for the crows, and then melt their guns too!

sfanslaphimviolin

It would work!

And then......

bonghit
 Quoting: Norseman2083


You're utopia is actually a delusion of grandeur. Thganks foreigner..we appreciate the bump.
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Banning weapons will foment the untimely death of more innocent people. Yes, you read correctly! ARM EVERYBODY! That way people have a fighting chance against the nutjobs who go postal!!! Attempting to take firearms away from the law abiding citizens will only embolden the armed criminal element and give them an added boost of confidence.

FACTS: There are too many weapons in the USA to ever confiscate. Weapons confiscation cannot happen without causing mass death of law enforcement officers and gun owners. Weapons can be constructed, designed and fabricated in a garage with simple tools. People will ALWAYS have access to guns. It's eternal...accept it! Seriously accept it!

The utopian idea that weapons can be removed from the equation is unrealistic and any attempt to force removal will end up in mass death.

Here are the choices: Arm everybody and let that bloodbath begin, or disarm everybody and let that bloodbath begin.

PICK ONE!!!!

FYI: When I say arm everybody I am not including felons.

I have to run for now...but perhaps this thread will make you think!
 Quoting: Chip



Agreed. This shit doesn't make me want to turn in any guns...it makes me want to make sure there is always one on me...and I think I need to teach my kids how to use them. Keeping in mind that my kids are 17, 13, and 10.
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the majority of mass shootings are done using semi-auto handguns and assault rifles. The vast majority of guns used in those shootings were legally acquired.

There are more guns in the US now than ever before, and 2012 was the deadliest year for mass shootings.

More guns in US has not reduced the number of mass shootings.

Gun bans won't work, either, but regulated access can and does work.

Access to the 2 most used weapons in mass shootings must be refined. People should still be able to own them, but they should have to go through a process to weed out the nutcases.

I have to complete an extensive drivers test and then prove my ability to operate a car to be get a driver's license.

Semi-auto handguns and assault rifles need similar regulations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522


So in other words you're too stupid to understand the fact that a person could do nearly the same amount of damage with a revolver and speed loaders in 2 or 3 minutes longer?

You dumbasses have no idea what you're talking about. Do your research before you post.

More mass shootings yes, but...LESS VIOLENT CRIME OVER ALL SINCE MORE WEAPONS HAVE BEEN PURCHASED!!!!!

Hear that shithead! More weapons less crime! Got it! More weapons less crime...more weapons less crime!!! That's according to the FBI themselves!!!!!

Now, quit with the politico propaganda and lies!!! Move on unless you want me to break out the actual documentation!

Last Edited by Chip on 12/15/2012 09:42 PM
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License's and regulation are not the answer to anything. You wanna keep on with the Corp. and what they want then keep on with that. There is enough laws in this land already with more and more added every year. This country has more folks in prison than every other country combined. For what because they didn't follow a rule or regulation or have the right license for the alleged infraction which usually caused no harm to another person it just went against the state or fed. statutes. When and where do you draw your line in the sand or dirt. We criminalize everything in this country as it is. Wether it be drugs, guns, vehicles, taxes and utmost standing up for what is morally ethically right. I would rather die standing up than die on my knees. Those who sacrifice freedoms for liberties deserve neither.
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the majority of mass shootings are done using semi-auto handguns and assault rifles. The vast majority of guns used in those shootings were legally acquired.

There are more guns in the US now than ever before, and 2012 was the deadliest year for mass shootings.

More guns in US has not reduced the number of mass shootings.

Gun bans won't work, either, but regulated access can and does work.

Access to the 2 most used weapons in mass shootings must be refined. People should still be able to own them, but they should have to go through a process to weed out the nutcases.

I have to complete an extensive drivers test and then prove my ability to operate a car to be get a driver's license.

Semi-auto handguns and assault rifles need similar regulations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522


clappa
 Quoting: John Kimble


You do realize that the brainwashing you have received will cause more child deaths right?!! From the factual information your thought process advocates MORE DEATH!!!! MORE DEATH! Do you understand or are you to far gone to get it?

The stupidity of society is out of control!!!!
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My father used to keep his gun in his locker at school loaded like the rest of the kids at his school.

No one used to think a thing of it.


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:whichsign:

i love signs which say "gun free zone" when all they do is inform the shooter that no one on the premises is armed and ready to stop them...

teacher and her class in israel...makes sense to me.

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the majority of mass shootings are done using semi-auto handguns and assault rifles. The vast majority of guns used in those shootings were legally acquired.

There are more guns in the US now than ever before, and 2012 was the deadliest year for mass shootings.

More guns in US has not reduced the number of mass shootings.

Gun bans won't work, either, but regulated access can and does work.

Access to the 2 most used weapons in mass shootings must be refined. People should still be able to own them, but they should have to go through a process to weed out the nutcases.

I have to complete an extensive drivers test and then prove my ability to operate a car to be get a driver's license.

Semi-auto handguns and assault rifles need similar regulations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522


clappa
 Quoting: John Kimble


You do realize that the brainwashing you have received will cause more child deaths right?!! From the factual information your thought process advocates MORE DEATH!!!! MORE DEATH! Do you understand or are you to far gone to get it?

The stupidity of society is out of control!!!!
 Quoting: Chip



You know what I don't get about your theory? USA already has most guns per capita of any country in the world, by far. Why aren't you the safest country on this planet then? Why does it only seem to get worse? In the end I don't give a fuck since I don't live there but it just strikes me is pretty illogical.
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:whichsign:

i love signs which say "gun free zone" when all they do is inform the shooter that no one on the premises is armed and ready to stop them...

teacher and her class in israel...makes sense to me.

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So awesome...it brought a tear to my eye...tissue
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When sane people are armed, the crazies will get off fewer shots.

Universal open carry is the best solution.

Then people will know where they stand.
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Banning weapons will foment the untimely death of more innocent people. Yes, you read correctly! ARM EVERYBODY! That way people have a fighting chance against the nutjobs who go postal!!! Attempting to take firearms away from the law abiding citizens will only embolden the armed criminal element and give them an added boost of confidence.

FACTS: There are too many weapons in the USA to ever confiscate. Weapons confiscation cannot happen without causing mass death of law enforcement officers and gun owners. Weapons can be constructed, designed and fabricated in a garage with simple tools. People will ALWAYS have access to guns. It's eternal...accept it! Seriously accept it!

The utopian idea that weapons can be removed from the equation is unrealistic and any attempt to force removal will end up in mass death.

Here are the choices: Arm everybody and let that bloodbath begin, or disarm everybody and let that bloodbath begin.

PICK ONE!!!!

FYI: When I say arm everybody I am not including felons.

I have to run for now...but perhaps this thread will make you think!
 Quoting: Chip


There's no need for a bloodbath!



Pick up a rose and go downtown and fight the hate with love. It's the only way to finally conquer this fucked up world!

And get rid of all your fucking guns!!!!
 Quoting: Norseman2083


Sorry but it would require more than giving up guns and gathering in peaceful protest to transform a world controlled by would be oppressors. Look at history:


 Quoting: Nyarlathotep


We know the history. We don't have to repeat it!

We have knowledge not to - if we want.

Melt your guns! Someone have to pick up the spirit that Norway showed was possible!

Please!!
 Quoting: Norseman2083


Norway?, seriously?

Didn't Norway just have that serial mass killing on that retreat island, nothing but young adults killed?
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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Come on Chip, haven't you heard...

no one died yesterday. All of those kids weren't real, just fake names to go along with a fake story.

We don't need to be armed or to protect the children, no one ever gets murdered. Everything is fake, a lie.

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there are air marshals for airplanes...why not school marshals for every public school? one, maybe two volunteers at each school for training along with ccw permits. if no volunteers hire someone. make sure they pass a criminal history and psych eval.
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Go the way of Wyoming. No permit CCW.
Just need a WY DL and you can carry.
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Once the honest citizen is disarmed the criminals will lose all fear. Home invasions by armed thugs will explode. Especially at night.....
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True, in Stockton(Ca), about an hour and a half from me, the level of criminal activity is quickly reaching those conditions. And don't go to San Bernardino unless you have a death wish.
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my family and I were almost victims of a home invasion last night. 2 cars in the driveway (we live in a well kept neighborhood on the main street) lights on, the guy could clearly see someone was home and awake, and he tries twice to kick the door in. we were all 5 feet from the door as it was happening. Only thing I regret is not having my gun on my side (it was in my room). By the time I got back to the door, the car was gone. Scared my wife, my mother so bad. I couldn't hardly sleep I was so mad. Looked at my wife as she slept and my daughter, and all I could think about is ob ama wanting to disarm me so I can't protect them.
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PICK ONE!!!!

FYI: When I say arm everybody I am not including felons.

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Let me see where you stand on this: purely hypothetical

John doe can't afford his drivers license renewal fees because he has major business license renewal fees because they have doubled in the last 12 months. He's met all other financial req's during this time period...barely.

John is driving home on an expired license, in the rain and clips a pedestrian on a rainy night, the pedestrian is wearing no reflective clothing and jaywalking....

John gets charged with a felony.

According to your mindset, John loses his rights to own a gun!. He's a felon now. He's worked and been a producer thought this fucked economy, employs people and you punish him twice through the courts by traffic violations... And then gun rights!

That's skewed.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Chip, got an answer for this?....
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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Once the honest citizen is disarmed the criminals will lose all fear. Home invasions by armed thugs will explode. Especially at night.....
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@John Kimble from the netherlands. Who is paying you and why do you think you have any say in what happens in the US. If it wasn't for US you would be speaking German right now. I wonder if you aren't working the night shift with the folks from OZ. hmmm
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Re: Time to ARM everybody in order to save the children!!!
the majority of mass shootings are done using semi-auto handguns and assault rifles. The vast majority of guns used in those shootings were legally acquired.

There are more guns in the US now than ever before, and 2012 was the deadliest year for mass shootings.

More guns in US has not reduced the number of mass shootings.

Gun bans won't work, either, but regulated access can and does work.

Access to the 2 most used weapons in mass shootings must be refined. People should still be able to own them, but they should have to go through a process to weed out the nutcases.

I have to complete an extensive drivers test and then prove my ability to operate a car to be get a driver's license.

Semi-auto handguns and assault rifles need similar regulations.
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You do realize that the brainwashing you have received will cause more child deaths right?!! From the factual information your thought process advocates MORE DEATH!!!! MORE DEATH! Do you understand or are you to far gone to get it?

The stupidity of society is out of control!!!!
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You know what I don't get about your theory? USA already has most guns per capita of any country in the world, by far. Why aren't you the safest country on this planet then? Why does it only seem to get worse? In the end I don't give a fuck since I don't live there but it just strikes me is pretty illogical.
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There is no utopia brother. Not in this world. The facts are that; 1.) The armed citizenry of the good ole US of A are the largest armed military in the world! We have never been invaded by any nation due to this! 2.) With the gun banning faggots at the helm, there will be more and more of these mass shootings simply because the brainwashing anti-gun culture is begging for it.

Since you're ignorant to reality in general study this factual "World firearms and ownership" spreadsheet. I'm sure you'll be jacking off to all of the death you see, but it should give you a basis with which you can make a valid argument (unlike the bullshit you currently espouse).

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:whichsign:

i love signs which say "gun free zone" when all they do is inform the shooter that no one on the premises is armed and ready to stop them...

teacher and her class in israel...makes sense to me.

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So awesome...it brought a tear to my eye...tissue
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it is an awesome sight, isn't it? i bet there are no one giving her any "lip" either. lolsign
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