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BREAKING - Medical examiner says all victims in Connecticut school massacre died from semi-automatic rifle gunfire.

 
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The kids would have fucking ran so fast. They better have bullets in their backs or it is all total BULL SHIT.
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More proof that there was a second shooter!
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I like the "CIA" story of them killing whoever was in the home, kidknapping Adam, bringing him there, "second shooter" does what he went to do, and Kills Adam and leaves the gun in his hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21919315


2nd shooter put the semi auto in the car after he did the deal and was found in the woods
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this makes sense
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Shotgun was in the trunk of that black car.
There was video of the cops taking it out. Had one shell in the chamber
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Can someone tell me where the school secretary was? The one that was suppose to be watching the doors.
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I dunno...In our district, our elementary schools and high school have a set of doors that push a visitor directly into the office, before they can just enter the school..

Our middle school and junior high visitors have to be buzzed in before they can enter. And that's because the doors do not lead directly to the office.

We have cameras all over the schools and we ARE NOT in some high class ritzy neighborhood like that school is.

I can't believe they don't have cameras...no way can that be...I want to see footage of the shooter entering the school and I want to see what he was armed with...
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Can somebody tell me how many guns were used? Im trying to explain this to some friends. This could happen anywhere in the world.

Thanks
 Quoting: Coyoxautli


Good question!!!!!
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


Lanza was found with guns right? which ones? I read that

a rifle,
a shotgun,
two pistols,
and all sorts of ammo

Then in this thread some said that the rifle was in the car but the children and the adults died from rifle gun fire...
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OMG this is all crazy
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So you have 10 or 20 people, teachers as well as little kids, in a room and you start offing them with rifle fire, sometimes you miss and you have to shoot them again, all this and you're not stopped or disarmed.

I know K students can't be expected to do much, but there were several adults, and it takes a moment to aim and fire a rifle, it's awkward at close range, etc.

Why were the people all dead? Was there time to re-shoot people until they were all dead?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28008747


^^I know...that has been nagging at the back of my mind...at some point, dude had to reload..not to mention, someone(adult) could have taken him out..there was also a report somewhere about the custodian running thru the halls yelling/warning everyone that there was a shooter in the building ...which gave teachers time to lock doors and secure the kids..

something is not adding up...here is a clip about medical examiner statement..

A medical examiner says the victims were killed by multiple rifle shots, some of them up close. Dr. H. Wayne Carver said at a news conference Saturday he believes "everybody was hit more than once."


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A shotgun was in the car
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Negative. A .223 Bushmaster Rifle was in the backseat.
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What does that look like?

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Can someone tell me where the school secretary was? The one that was suppose to be watching the doors.
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I dunno...In our district, our elementary schools and high school have a set of doors that push a visitor directly into the office, before they can just enter the school..

Our middle school and junior high visitors have to be buzzed in before they can enter. And that's because the doors do not lead directly to the office.

We have cameras all over the schools and we ARE NOT in some high class ritzy neighborhood like that school is.

I can't believe they don't have cameras...no way can that be...I want to see footage of the shooter entering the school and I want to see what he was armed with...
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the school had just implemented being buzzed in and having to show id to the camera before entering...reports say the shooter forced his way in...HOW???? doors were locked at 9:30..how did he get in?
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Medical examiner says all victims in Connecticut school massacre died from semi-automatic rifle gunfire.

on [link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


The vid of the cop clearing a long gun in the trunk of a black car in the parking lot looked like a semi auto shotgun and definitely not a bushmaster. There is also no way to confuse the wound channel of a long gun with that of a handgun. Another report said LEO's recovered a .45 Henry lever action, a .30 Enfield, and a .22 Marlin rifle somewhere in the school, while another report says they found the Bushmaster, Sig, and Glock next to the dead shooter. Anyone who has taken a bunch of long guns out to the range would know this guy would've needed a wheelbarrow to haul all that gear into the school himself.......
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Young adult in camo found in the woods.
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The kids would have fucking ran so fast. They better have bullets in their backs or it is all total BULL SHIT.
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I still don't believe anybody was shot.What happened to the room full of kids that were supposedly unaccounted for?Did they send them to the ritual child sacrifice the council of 13 has on the 21st?bump
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bump for later reading
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pink cat your damn signature photo causes me to crack up laughing, all alone like a lunatic.

and yeah this story is full of holes. wonder who's gonna take the fall, and when will the first domino begin to collapse the rest?
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Re: BREAKING - Medical examiner says all victims in Connecticut school massacre died from semi-automatic rifle gunfire.
This one statement says all you need to know...
no body can differentiate between a projectile fired from a semi auto or a bolt gun...until the ballistics of the found projectile are matched to a known weapon and it is determined that the weapon is in fact semi auto. For example a bullet fired from an ar-15 and a bullet fired from say a savage bolt gun chambered in .223 will look identical until microscopically examined and matched to a particular weapon.
The medical examiner is playing politics and feeding obamas anti semi auto agenda
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Can somebody tell me how many guns were used? Im trying to explain this to some friends. This could happen anywhere in the world.

Thanks
 Quoting: Coyoxautli


Good question!!!!!
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


Lanza was found with guns right? which ones? I read that

a rifle,
a shotgun,
two pistols,
and all sorts of ammo

Then in this thread some said that the rifle was in the car but the children and the adults died from rifle gun fire...
 Quoting: Coyoxautli


That's what we're all trying to sort out. Multiple conflicting reports. The original report said the shooter used two hand guns and that a rifle was found in the truck of the car. (I think). Now it's being said that ALL victims were shot with an assault rifle...I'm gonna be spending the night on Google trying to put this all together...

On Audio...

[link to www.nypost.com]

"...Moments later, an officer apparently at the scene is heard saying: “They’re coming at me through this wood.”

“This is it,” said another."

That must be the shots coming from the woods???? The camo man? Who is he and is he in custody?

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Link to my thread started this afternoon. I asked that we join your thread to further the discussion since yours i pinned and the conversation seems thicker here. Might want to check out the thoughts we had in the shorter thread. SOme good post in there.



It will remain interesting as the days go by to see the 'new developments' FOX has the 911 tapes up and they are conflicting the story as well. Take a listen.


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Re: BREAKING - Medical examiner says all victims in Connecticut school massacre died from semi-automatic rifle gunfire.
From the same article - Investigators recovered a .45-caliber Henry Repeating Rifle, a .22-caliber Marlin Rifle and a .30-caliber Enfield Rifle, though it's unclear where they were found, the source said.
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[link to www.cbsnews.com]

Law enforcement officials speaking on condition of anonymity said that Lanza fatally shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, then drove to the school in her car with at least three guns, including a high-powered rifle that he apparently left in the back of the vehicle, and shot up two classrooms around 9:30 a.m. The New York Times reported that Lanza wore combat gear.
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Link to my thread started this afternoon. I asked that we join your thread to further the discussion since yours i pinned and the conversation seems thicker here. Might want to check out the thoughts we had in the shorter thread. SOme good post in there.



It will remain interesting as the days go by to see the 'new developments' FOX has the 911 tapes up and they are conflicting the story as well. Take a listen.


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I'm guilty of the pin! Sorry for stepping on your toes, eek! and thank you for being kind enough to bring those thoughts over here! You are very gracious!
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Re: BREAKING - Medical examiner says all victims in Connecticut school massacre died from semi-automatic rifle gunfire.
So lets say the shooter that was identified as the 'teenage' son of the Teacher was framed. The only reason he would be there would be to visit his mother whom was 'shot and killed' at school{This was initially reported}. 20 children dead, 6 adults(including his mother), suicide himself 1; and lastly the last victim found at the house-1. So 28 total was initially reported on CNN and I watched the story late at around 2 central time. PSYOP
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They may have recoverd another rifle from the vehicle. The shooters mother was a gun owner and had a .22 ruger and a lee enfield as well as others,
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Re: BREAKING - Medical examiner says all victims in Connecticut school massacre died from semi-automatic rifle gunfire.
This one statement says all you need to know...
no body can differentiate between a projectile fired from a semi auto or a bolt gun...until the ballistics of the found projectile are matched to a known weapon and it is determined that the weapon is in fact semi auto. For example a bullet fired from an ar-15 and a bullet fired from say a savage bolt gun chambered in .223 will look identical until microscopically examined and matched to a particular weapon.
The medical examiner is playing politics and feeding obamas anti semi auto agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5034419


not to mention he did a crapload of autopsies in record time..
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This one statement says all you need to know...
no body can differentiate between a projectile fired from a semi auto or a bolt gun...until the ballistics of the found projectile are matched to a known weapon and it is determined that the weapon is in fact semi auto. For example a bullet fired from an ar-15 and a bullet fired from say a savage bolt gun chambered in .223 will look identical until microscopically examined and matched to a particular weapon.
The medical examiner is playing politics and feeding obamas anti semi auto agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5034419


I noticed in the interview he identified the ages of the victims from 3 to 11 yrs.

3 year old kindergarteners?
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So lets say the shooter that was identified as the 'teenage' son of the Teacher was framed. The only reason he would be there would be to visit his mother whom was 'shot and killed' at school{This was initially reported}. 20 children dead, 6 adults(including his mother), suicide himself 1; and lastly the last victim found at the house-1. So 28 total was initially reported on CNN and I watched the story late at around 2 central time. PSYOP
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22665853


This was exactly the story I first heard...

Now, the questions are piling up...

Why was the shooter at the school????

Why was he let in??????

Where is the camera footage of him entering the building????

Who is the man in the woods?????

On and on and on....
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This one statement says all you need to know...
no body can differentiate between a projectile fired from a semi auto or a bolt gun...until the ballistics of the found projectile are matched to a known weapon and it is determined that the weapon is in fact semi auto. For example a bullet fired from an ar-15 and a bullet fired from say a savage bolt gun chambered in .223 will look identical until microscopically examined and matched to a particular weapon.
The medical examiner is playing politics and feeding obamas anti semi auto agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5034419


I noticed in the interview he identified the ages of the victims from 3 to 11 yrs.

3 year old kindergarteners?
 Quoting: allisaTX


probably the pre-schoolers..they have that at elementary schools now..they want your kids at school as soon as they are out of diapers, now...seriously
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This one statement says all you need to know...
no body can differentiate between a projectile fired from a semi auto or a bolt gun...until the ballistics of the found projectile are matched to a known weapon and it is determined that the weapon is in fact semi auto. For example a bullet fired from an ar-15 and a bullet fired from say a savage bolt gun chambered in .223 will look identical until microscopically examined and matched to a particular weapon.
The medical examiner is playing politics and feeding obamas anti semi auto agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5034419


not to mention he did a crapload of autopsies in record time..
 Quoting: Abi ~


There's no fucking way he could do that many and get the ballistics back in that time to determine the caliber or type of weapon and now they list the names of the dead which looks just as fake.We need to somehow verify that those names are even real.bump
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I was just getting ready to post this myself! What the fuck? I thought the shooter had two handguns AND the rifle was in the backseat of the car and was never used?????
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess

You're 100% correct. That's what they said.
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the rifle was left in the trunk, someone posted the video where police (pulling it out without gloves and disarming it)
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This one statement says all you need to know...
no body can differentiate between a projectile fired from a semi auto or a bolt gun...until the ballistics of the found projectile are matched to a known weapon and it is determined that the weapon is in fact semi auto. For example a bullet fired from an ar-15 and a bullet fired from say a savage bolt gun chambered in .223 will look identical until microscopically examined and matched to a particular weapon.
The medical examiner is playing politics and feeding obamas anti semi auto agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5034419


not to mention he did a crapload of autopsies in record time..
 Quoting: Abi ~


I know NOTHING of guns...NOTHING...

My thought too...why were there not other Medical Examiners called in? Maybe I watch too much tv, but, I'd have thought that the Feds or somebody would send in guys to help with all the autopsies...Right???? Something along those lines...One lone Medical Examiner for almost 30 people????? Noooooo!!!!!
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This one statement says all you need to know...
no body can differentiate between a projectile fired from a semi auto or a bolt gun...until the ballistics of the found projectile are matched to a known weapon and it is determined that the weapon is in fact semi auto. For example a bullet fired from an ar-15 and a bullet fired from say a savage bolt gun chambered in .223 will look identical until microscopically examined and matched to a particular weapon.
The medical examiner is playing politics and feeding obamas anti semi auto agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5034419


Hopefully the examiner's findings will be public without a bunch of redaction. A good investigation will show exactly who was shot with what at least in terms of caliber and long vs. hand gun.....

Links to more varying reports of weaponry recovered...

“NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) - Authorities say a number of guns have been recovered in the wake of a school shooting in Connecticut that left 28 people dead, including 20 children and the gunman, who also killed his mother prior to the massacre.
Police say two handguns were found inside the school and a rifle in the back of a car. Authorities also recovered two rifles and a shotgun, but it's not clear where.
A law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said some of the guns may have belonged to Adam Lanza's family. His mother had legally registered four weapons, his father two.”
[link to www.news10.net]
‘….He performed seven of the autopsies himself. Carver said the wounds he knew about were caused by a "long weapon." Asked by a reporter whether a rife was the primary weapon, he responded, 'Yes.”……..
….Lanza was found dead next to three guns, a semi-automatic .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle and two pistols made by Glock and Sig Sauer, a law enforcement source told CNN. All belonged to his mother…….

…….Adam Lanza also had access to at least three more guns, a second law enforcement source said. Investigators recovered a .45-caliber Henry Repeating Rifle, a .22-caliber Marlin Rifle and a .30-caliber Enfield Rifle, though it's unclear where they were found, the source said…..’
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Link to my thread started this afternoon. I asked that we join your thread to further the discussion since yours i pinned and the conversation seems thicker here. Might want to check out the thoughts we had in the shorter thread. SOme good post in there.



It will remain interesting as the days go by to see the 'new developments' FOX has the 911 tapes up and they are conflicting the story as well. Take a listen.


[link to www.myfoxphilly.com]
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I'm guilty of the pin! Sorry for stepping on your toes, eek! and thank you for being kind enough to bring those thoughts over here! You are very gracious!
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Sure thing. No toes stepped on, I just want us all to be int he same conversation. Thanks for pinning it so it gets the attention it needs.
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This one statement says all you need to know...
no body can differentiate between a projectile fired from a semi auto or a bolt gun...until the ballistics of the found projectile are matched to a known weapon and it is determined that the weapon is in fact semi auto. For example a bullet fired from an ar-15 and a bullet fired from say a savage bolt gun chambered in .223 will look identical until microscopically examined and matched to a particular weapon.
The medical examiner is playing politics and feeding obamas anti semi auto agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5034419


not to mention he did a crapload of autopsies in record time..
 Quoting: Abi ~


There's no fucking way he could do that many and get the ballistics back in that time to determine the caliber or type of weapon and now they list the names of the dead which looks just as fake.We need to somehow verify that those names are even real.bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281165


Agreed!!! That is another thing that is puzzling me...26? autopsies claiming all died of multiple gunshot wounds from a specific gun...NO WAY!!! in under 24 hours...not a chance..

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