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The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)

 
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Holy cow, Batman! Illuminati smoking gun for sure...
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How do you figure that is CT school are in map ? It is not
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The first screenshot clearly says SANDY HOOk just below the red dot on the map (where his finger is pointing in the second screenshot). Can anyone confirm that this is not a photoshop? If not, then I need to watch that movie for sure.
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I can confirm you that it is not photoshop. I watched here...
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That's no coicedence. Someone wrote that in marker...

This shit is busting open and shills are at full force!
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Here's the latest news I saw on the UK's Guardian website. Apparently there will be prosecutions for hoax profiles etc. Slightly strict in my opinion, but kind of fair enough if it hinders the gathering of accurate information. However, I wonder how long it will take before questioning the official story on sites like this becomes a crime also?!
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"It was being reported locally and according to witnesses at the school that there was two men dressed as nuns who got access into the school. This would be one way fully automatic military assault weapons could have been hidden from the person monitoring the security camera."

There's a movie with this cover: "The Town"

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Bumping for those who may not have seen this thread.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
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BUMP!

Much thanks to all who contributed thoughts and ideas through rational, reasonable, critical thinking.

I will create a comprehensive list, it may take me most of today, perhaps into the morning of Monday 12/17.

I will present the comprehensive list of questions, and I will then begin Monday morning, my quest for the real truth. I will use my connections in the media: local radio stations, local daily newspapers, and alternative internet news sources. I will also gently coax the captured-MSM to begin asking the difficult questions.


I have taken this task upon myself...Because it is obvious that the captured Main Stream Media will no longer do their job as investigative journalists. And, without OBJECTIVE investigators seeking the truth and reporting facts to the people, this Republic will not last much longer.
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What are the similarities between this shooting and the one in Norway by that "lone gunman"?
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

In the vid at the link, what is the child's father talking about when he says "my agency ...?"
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I have a thread about it. Can someone with a brain look it up without being emotional and unreasonable and tell me what you think? Please do NOT listen to the words, just the behavior of this man. I might be wrong.... I'm GLP brainwashEd already :)) Thread: Why this father who just lost his girl is smiling? (Sandy shooting)
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just watched the video with no sound

100% not believable that this father just had his little girl slaughtered in a massacre no way, no how

damned2

right out of Rosemary's Baby
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Number six is interesting. I'm 28 and I remember our whole school ( k-12) was always under surveillance. My mom always made mention of it. Made her worry. Like back then ppl didn't even contemplate this horrific shit. I would like to know about any possible footage from that day, I bet it will not be discussed.
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I haven't read through all the pages of response; but something I observed. Reportedly, 27-year old Victoria Soto sacrificed herself to protect her first graders. With that being the case, might someone please show me where she is even listed as a teacher in the Newton school system??

[link to myschooldesk.net]

There IS a first grade teacher named Victoria; but she's been teaching for 9 years. That's much too long for a 27-year old teacher!
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Interestingly enough, Adam Lanza's father is scheduled to testify in the LIBOR case...JUST LIKE JAMES HOLMES' FATHER!!!
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I haven't read through all the pages of response; but something I observed. Reportedly, 27-year old Victoria Soto sacrificed herself to protect her first graders. With that being the case, might someone please show me where she is even listed as a teacher in the Newton school system??

[link to myschooldesk.net]

There IS a first grade teacher named Victoria; but she's been teaching for 9 years. That's much too long for a 27-year old teacher!
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[link to newtown.sandyhook.schooldesk.net]
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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You may not have seen this yet but it helps to explain the sequence of events that morning.

[link to www.cnn.com]

Pictures at link of weapons used.

Before events at the school

At some point before he went to the school, investigators believe Adam Lanza, 20 (right) killed his mother, Nancy Lanza. He then took her guns and made his way to the elementary school wearing black fatigues and a military vest, according to a law enforcement official.

After 9:00 a.m.

Classes were under way at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. Approximately 700 students were present at the school.

Earlier this year, the school principal, Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung, ordered a new security system installed that requires visitors to be visibly identified and buzzed in. As part of the security system, the school locked its doors each day at 9:30 a.m.

It is not clear whether the suspect, Adam Lanza, 20, entered the school before or after 9:30 a.m.

Lanza forced his way into the school, law enforcement officials said. It is unclear how or whether Lanza used weapons to do it.

Recording of police dispatch from the scene at link

About 9:30 a.m.

At about 9:30 a.m., as announcements were read over the loudspeaker to the students, shots rang out.

Students described being ushered into bathrooms and closets by teachers after hearing the first shots.

One parent who was at the school in a meeting with Hochsprung, the school's psychologist, Mary Sherlach, and the vice principal said she heard a "pop, pop, pop."

All three left the room and went into the hall to see what was happening. The parent ducked under the table and called 911. "I cowered," the parent told CNN. The gunman "must have shot a hundred rounds."

All three -- the principal, vice principal and the school psychologist -- were shot by the gunman. Hochsprung and Sherlach died at the scene. The vice principal was wounded.

Next, Lanza shot up two classrooms of kindergartners and first-graders, police said. Twenty students ages 6 and 7 were killed. Four other adults were also killed.

At the police station, dispatchers began to take calls from inside the school. Authorities say the first emergency call about the shooting came in at "approximately" 9:30 a.m.

"Sandy Hook school. Caller is indicating she thinks someone is shooting in the building," a dispatcher told fire and medical personnel, according to 911 tapes.

9:50 a.m.

Police and other first responders arrived on scene. By this time, police say the gunman was dead, though the exact timing is unclear.

Police report that no law enforcement officers discharged their weapons at any point. The gunman likely took his own life, police said.

Authorities found three guns next to Lanza's body in one of the classrooms, a law enforcement source told CNN. All three -- a semi-automatic .223-caliber rifle made by Bushmaster and two pistols made by Glock and Sig Sauer --
were owned by Lanza's mother, a source told CNN.

Investigators know which one Lanza used to kill himself but are not yet revealing that information.

Police secured the building, ensuring no other shooters were on site. Police then escorted students and faculty out of the building to a nearby firehouse. As reports of the shooting made their way around town, frantic parents descended on the firehouse where the children had been taken.

By nightfall, the firehouse became a gathering point for parents and family members whose loved ones would never walk out of the school.

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Big discrepancy:

Actors act on TV as Victimes to push the official story: !!!!!


Two parents "Nick" and "Laura Phelps"

[link to edition.cnn.com]
"Nick and Laura Phelps also are struggling with what to tell their two children, a first-grader and a third-grader."

"When I saw those teachers, I locked eyes with them separately. If I could go back, I would embrace them," Nick Phelps said, "because I had no idea what they had gone through."
[not the guys in the video in that article]
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Know whatch this video from 1:35 on:




Then look at this picture from Dallasgoldbug who didnt found this out yet ;) (If you read that DGB - FIRST :P)

Look at the lower left side above the young boy the couple with the kid in the middle:
[link to wellaware1.com]

The woman I know is Jennifer Greenberg. The guy Im not sure of his name. She plays many other characters(just check wellaware1.com)

Now tell me that these two are not the same couple!

I say 100% match!


The conclusions are mindblowing!

Check also the other fake actor. The medical examiner:
Thread: Fake examiner

Now I dont know if this means that everything is fake but it certainly shows that this is a planned event.
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Why isn't this thread pinned?
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Why isn't this thread pinned?
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Cause of the shills. They downvote everything that is going near the right path.

This is the biggest conspiracy forum so they are sure in drones out these days!
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I have a big discrepancy for you.

I happen to know this because I have Asperger's... people with Asperger's are hyper-sensitive to light, sound, touch and smell.

You actually think somebody who is hypersensitive to sound is going to shoot handguns in a closed room 60+ times? Or an assault rifle, even?

You can look this up yourself, it is very common among Aspies.
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excellent point AC! My son is full blown Aspergers..he can't handle loud noises.
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The BBC REPORTED THAT AT LEAST THREE OF THE PARENTS OF DEAD CHILDREN JUST MOVED INTO THE TOWN. I only put in the pertinent parts of the article

REPORT FROM BBC

Her husband, William, told US media: "She considered what she was doing as God's work — that's all you need to know about her".

Lauren Russo, 30
Lauren Russo's mother, Teresa Russo, said Lauren had spent years working as a substitute teacher and was thrilled when she finally become a full-time teacher at Sandy Hook.

"It was the best year of her life," she told the Danbury News-Times, where she is a copy editor.

Emilie Parker, 6
Emilie told her father she loved him as he left for work, he says
Father Robbie Parker, 30, was one of the first parents to publicly talk about his loss. He said Emilie, the older of his three children, "could just light up a room".

He told reporters that she loved to try new things - except food.

"My wife and I don't understand how to process this and how to get our lives going. I don't know how to get through something like this," he said.

( [link to www.examiner.com] In this article from the Examiner, Robbie Parker is described as a family who just moved into town stating...."Robbie Parker and his wife moved their family to Newtown, Conn. just eight short months ago so he could accept a position at the local hospital. Emilie was the oldest of their three children....")

Ana Marquez-Greene, 6
Media reports have identified Ana as the daughter of jazz saxophonist Jimmy Greene, who had just started a new job at Western Connecticut State University..

The child's grandmother, Elba Marquez, said the family had moved to Connecticut from Canada, drawn in part by Sandy Hook's glowing reputation.

"It was a beautiful place, just beautiful. What happened does not match up with the place where they live," she said.

Dylan Hockley, 6
In an interview conducted with local newspaper the Newton Bee before the shootings, Dylan Hockley's mother Nicole said that the family had moved to the US from England two years ago. Father Ian Hockley previously worked in Southampton.

The Hockleys are reported to have lived in Yogananda Street and were neighbours of the Adam and Nancy Lanza.

Grace McDonnell, 7
Her parents, Chris and Lynn sent a statement to the Washington Post newspaper, saying: "We are overwhelmed by the outpouring of love and support from so many people. Our daughter Grace was the love and light of our family. Words cannot adequately express our sense of loss."

(WHY SEND A MESSAGE LIKE THIS TO THE THE WASHINGTON POST? SHOULD IT NOT HAVE BEEN SENT TO LOCAL PAPER. DO THE MCDONNELL'S LIVE IN WASHINGTON?)
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On reporting about several families of victims, the journalist from BBC [link to www.bbc.co.uk] happen to men in regard to at least three that they just moved into Newtown. Others "just got jobs in the area".

Lauren Russo, just became a teacher at Sandy Hook;

Nicole Hockley, mother of Dylan Hockley, just moved into area from "England";

Media reports have identified Ana Marquez Greene as the daughter of jazz saxophonist Jimmy Greene, who had just started a new job at Western Connecticut State University.The child's grandmother, Elba Marquez, said the family had moved to Connecticut from Canada, drawn in part by Sandy Hook's glowing reputation. "It was a beautiful place, just beautiful. What happened does not match up with the place where they live," she said.

Robbie Parker (daughter Emilie) just moved into area with his family 8 months ago (for Robbie Parker See [link to www.examiner.com]

Another Oddity '

Parents, Chris and Lynn McDonnell of Grace McDonnnel sent a statement to the Washington Post newspaper, saying: "We are overwhelmed by the outpouring of love and support from so many people. Our daughter Grace was the love and light of our family. Words cannot adequately express our sense of loss." WHY WOULD LOCAL PARENTS SEND THIS MESSAGE TO THE NEWSPAPERS SO QUICKLY....AND FOR LOCAL PARENTS TO SEND THIS MESSAGE TO THE WASHINGTON POST?
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In case this hasn't been posted in this thread here is a link to a screen shot of the Victoria Soto Rip Facebook Page created on 10th December. I forget the poster who originally linked this but my thanks to them.

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What struck me, was the fact how quickly they came out with the pictures of the kids. That doesnt make any sence.
Yesterday evening dailymail had them front page.
The police had to identify the kids first, that takes time. Some of the parents allegedly had no idea if their kids were alaive or dead yet.
How come the media had those pictures?
I do not watch tv, so I just today looked st some of the interviews and OMG these are NOT grieving parents, no, no, no...
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she was a dooms day prepper - one of us (GLPer) ?

He was reportedly homeschooled by his mother, a school principal and gun enthusiast, who wasn't satisfied with the education her son was receiving.

It was at that home where Adam picked up one of his mother's several guns, a military grade AR-15 with 'hundreds' of rounds, and took his first victim.

Ms Lanza owned five guns, two handguns, a semi-automatic rifle and two hunting rifles, which her sister-in-law said she had for self-defence since her divorce in 2008.

As America searches for answers, investigators are turning towards Nancy Lanza's supposed identification as a survivalist.

The Daily Mail reports Ms Lanza stockpiled weapons and food for what she saw as America's coming economic collapse.

The 'prepper' revelations may provide one insight into Adam Lanza's motive for taking so many innocent lives.


[link to au.news.yahoo.com]
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Principal Dawn Hochsprung gave a statement to the Newtown Bee about the attack and was then later reported as one of the first people murdered.

Thread: (sandy hook) Newton bee inconsistency? Dead Principal told them..
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My theory: Real killers hoarded children into a room and killed them execution style. They then bring Lanza onto the scene, all dressed up with body armor and rifle, then kill him. Here is where something went wrong, where possibly one of the real killers didn't quite get away. It feels like they may have had an accomplice on the police force and maybe on the school staff. They may have had to rush things for some reason.
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This ^^^ I don't think Lanza killed anyone. He might have been killed at the same time as his mom or they drugged him and took him to the school and killed him there. There hasn't been a motive released so far right? The whole thing smells. I really can't see a young guy like Lanza talking a couple guys into joining him on this rampage.

Great thread btw ^^
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When I got home from work I saw cnn showing pictures of alot of those dead kids.
Where did they get those pictures so fast?

I also saw cnn video with a bunch of pictures of that dead teacher, where did they get her pictures from so fast?
Hell, its only been 2 days since the shooting!!!

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I have a big discrepancy for you.

I happen to know this because I have Asperger's... people with Asperger's are hyper-sensitive to light, sound, touch and smell.

You actually think somebody who is hypersensitive to sound is going to shoot handguns in a closed room 60+ times? Or an assault rifle, even?

You can look this up yourself, it is very common among Aspies.
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excellent point AC! My son is full blown Aspergers..he can't handle loud noises.
 Quoting: blackngoldbeauty


not all people with asperger's this is incorrect i'm a mental health carer and have worked with countless people with apserger's some people just have a need to feel in control of anything.
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Big discrepancy:

Actors act on TV as Victimes to push the official story: !!!!!


Two parents "Nick" and "Laura Phelps"

[link to edition.cnn.com]
"Nick and Laura Phelps also are struggling with what to tell their two children, a first-grader and a third-grader."

"When I saw those teachers, I locked eyes with them separately. If I could go back, I would embrace them," Nick Phelps said, "because I had no idea what they had gone through."
[not the guys in the video in that article]
-------------

Know whatch this video from 1:35 on:




Then look at this picture from Dallasgoldbug who didnt found this out yet ;) (If you read that DGB - FIRST :P)

Look at the lower left side above the young boy the couple with the kid in the middle:
[link to wellaware1.com]

The woman I know is Jennifer Greenberg. The guy Im not sure of his name. She plays many other characters(just check wellaware1.com)

Now tell me that these two are not the same couple!

I say 100% match!


The conclusions are mindblowing!

Check also the other fake actor. The medical examiner:
Thread: Fake examiner

Now I dont know if this means that everything is fake but it certainly shows that this is a planned event.
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The woman in the video is she the same as this one ??

[link to pub.tv2.no]
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Check this out. This guy says that Peter Lanza may have some connection with Smith and Wesson.

Supposedly he was in the interview process for the CFO position at Smith and Wesson, and that everytime there is a mass shooting gun sales soar.


I have NO IDEA if this is true. Just passing it along.

Scroll down to CADILLICVYSE and read his post.


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keep the thread going i haven't had time to look through it fully yet but good work on this thread.

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