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The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)

 
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thanks for posting the links AC.....too fucked up!! I know a lot of stores carry the same dresses in multiple sizes so families can dress their kids up identically for xmas or whatever....

but in one of the pictures the girl's face looks IDENTICAL to all the photos of emilie...anoyone else see this??
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Anyone brought his up yet?

Victoria supposedly saved ALL of her kids by putting them into closets/cupboards.





"Neil Heslin was one of those who raced to the school, only to find his six-year-old son Jesse Lewis was among the victims. 'I dropped him off at school at 9am. He went happily,' Heslin said last night 'That was the last I saw of him.'

Jesse was in teacher Victoria Soto's class. She also perished.
Mr Heslin, 50, said parents were first alerted to the shooting by a 'reverse 911' call, which sends out emergency alerts to a specific area.

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Here was a list I put together on another web site:
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1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.

2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count.)

3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).

4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan--who officials say is very cooperative--claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?

7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?

8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday--something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

9) The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children (according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.

10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?

11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?

12) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was he and what was he doing there?

13) What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?

14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?

15) Why were parents told on Friday that "if you haven't been reunited with your child by now it's already over"? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, "Okay, the show's over, let's go home now"?

16) Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn't they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?

17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children--difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?

18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?

19) Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?

20) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?

21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?

22) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?

23) Why won't police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?

24) Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?

25) Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that "they're coming at me through this wood," followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?

26) One officer in the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed), not dead.

27) Why didn't Adam's uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?

28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?

29) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such "protection" or not?

30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it's for their own benefit?

31) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
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Wow.
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The Newton Bee PULLED down the webpage that said:

"Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on."

[link to newtownbee.com]

Screenshot of proof of what that page looked like is here:

[link to i1053.photobucket.com]
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They should have pulled it. They reported incorrect info.

Media have a responsibility to clean up their mistakes.

I don't think it is trying to hide anything. It is trying to act responsibly.
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sheep
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In all honesty, they shouldn't have pulled down the original article, even if it did have inaccurate information in it. Reason? If you're trying to solve a murder case, you need every last scrap of evidence and information possible. Taking down information in a newspaper looks suspicious.
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First of all, when a supposed crime's inconsistent details are being played out and presented in the press for the manipulation of public opinion, this is the first sign that the whole thing is BS.

All of these stories, statements from officials, and conflicting details are admissable in court - even though this will never see the inside of a real court room.

Secondly, murder cases are not solved or vetted through the press - UNLESS the 'authorities' don't really know who did it and use the press to try to illicit details from those who may have known something and who respond to their fake news stories.

This COULD be what's taking place by running a story involving statements from someone who was supposedly killed but just found the time to call the local press with the 'scoop'.

That they took down this story and didn't keep it up - which is what we would expect if they were fishing for information - points to the more likely scenario that they got exposed and not all of the press can be kept on the same narrative.

They aren't all powerful and don't control everything.
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I just saw an interview on Cnn, I think it was Don Lemon, talking to the friends of Nancy Lanza asking questions about her son. He Said that Adam was a Organic Vegan and that he took this stance because he believed that nothing should have to die for him to live, and that is why he found this very bizzare.


Very wierd....


Edit: Also this..

"You don't know if this kid was put up to this by somebody else," the source said. "You don't know if there was a conspiracy of sorts. You don't know if there wasn't somebody who wasn't goading this kid on."


[link to news.yahoo.com]

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So that girl only had one dress? Daily Mail identified the wrong girl/victim? What the hell?!?
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Does anyone else find it strange to see pictures like this (in the link below).....of families smiling and posing with President Obama....and their precious little girl was tragically killed on Friday?

I know that people handle grief in different ways; and yes, I understand that this was a photo op with the president, but how can you smile like this when you have just lost your precious child? I don't understand this.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

On top of this, I'm also having a difficult time believing that a 20-year-old young man with a learning disability could, with precision point accuracy, kill 26 people, one right after another (putting between 3 - 11 bullets in each person). There has to be more than one person involved.

I thought the Aurora, CO shooting had holes in the story, but this story has an unbelievable amount of inaccuracies.
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omfg did anyone else notice that the little blonde girl in the photo with obama is wearing the EXACT SAME dress as "emilie parker" in the second photo that has been widely used as a memorial photo???

am i just crazy???
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No, you're not crazy! Good catch! Now, that is creepy. Plus, I'll add some more creepiness. Two of the main colors of the Illuminati (or whatever we call these evil people) is red and black. It's all about connecting the dots. I noted this on my Taylor Swift Illuminati thread below (with her red and black dress):

Thread: Taylor Swift's CD "Red" and "I Knew You Were Trouble" - Illuminati Inspired?
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thanks for posting the links AC.....too fucked up!! I know a lot of stores carry the same dresses in multiple sizes so families can dress their kids up identically for xmas or whatever....

but in one of the pictures the girl's face looks IDENTICAL to all the photos of emilie...anoyone else see this??
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It's her. Same dress, same part in hair. The other sister's hair is quite different.

WTF ?
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So that girl only had one dress? Daily Mail identified the wrong girl/victim? What the hell?!?
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More likely they did all the photo shoots on the same day. Dad's hair is pretty much exactly the same in that photo as it is in the press conference and photos with Obama.

psyop
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What disrepancies are listed here??

In the wake of unimaginable terror and chaos, certainly you yourselves could do better at gathering this information before 5:00 p.m. Friday.

The idiocy by some simply astounds me. Shut up and grieve people! Our children are under attack!!
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Don't you think we should find out who really did this?

The attack is on our constitutional rights..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


So you just admitted you're more worried about your guns than the lives of the people who were killed. So badly that you want to make it about something that it's not. When truth doesn't serve you just make shit up to justify your need to keep your weapons. This is the sickness that has crept into our society like a cancer.
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What disrepancies are listed here??

In the wake of unimaginable terror and chaos, certainly you yourselves could do better at gathering this information before 5:00 p.m. Friday.

The idiocy by some simply astounds me. Shut up and grieve people! Our children are under attack!!
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Don't you think we should find out who really did this?

The attack is on our constitutional rights..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


You're the sickness of shill.

So you just admitted you're more worried about your guns than the lives of the people who were killed. So badly that you want to make it about something that it's not. When truth doesn't serve you just make shit up to justify your need to keep your weapons. This is the sickness that has crept into our society like a cancer.
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Here was a list I put together on another web site:
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1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.

2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count.)

3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).

4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan--who officials say is very cooperative--claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?

7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?

8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday--something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

9) The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children (according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.

10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?

11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?

12) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was he and what was he doing there?

13) What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?

14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?

15) Why were parents told on Friday that "if you haven't been reunited with your child by now it's already over"? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, "Okay, the show's over, let's go home now"?

16) Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn't they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?

17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children--difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?

18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?

19) Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?

20) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?

21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?

22) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?

23) Why won't police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?

24) Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?

25) Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that "they're coming at me through this wood," followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?

26) One officer in the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed), not dead.

27) Why didn't Adam's uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?

28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?

29) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such "protection" or not?

30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it's for their own benefit?

31) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First

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Wow.
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Anyone else see this,nurse and secretary in closet for four hours before being found and guided out by police?Why did it take them four hours to secure the building?What if that had been more perps hiding in that closet all that time?

[link to gma.yahoo.com]

They then raced into a supply closet and held the door closed. Cox said they remained there for close to four hours.

When the police made rounds, looking for survivors, they came across Cox and the secretary still in the office, and escorted them out of the building. Cox, who had tested every kid's hearing and vision in Sandy Hook, said the police shielded them from the horrific carnage in the hallway.
"They told us to close our eyes. They said, 'Close your eyes,'" she said.
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Ok...that's just weird.

Parent's of a child murdered a couple of DAYS ago smiling in a group photo w/ Odumbo?

Seriously?

What the fuck is going on?
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Is it just me or is that Emilie in the picture with Obama wearing black and red?
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YES!! I just noticed this oo!! in the same black and red dress as the memorial photo of the parents and their three daughters, which in the captions lists emilie parker in the black and red dress.....
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IMAGE ( [link to i.dailymail.co.uk] )



IMAGE ( [link to i.dailymail.co.uk] )

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unbelievable...speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is it just me or is that Emilie in the picture with Obama wearing black and red?
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YES!! I just noticed this oo!! in the same black and red dress as the memorial photo of the parents and their three daughters, which in the captions lists emilie parker in the black and red dress.....
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IMAGE ( [link to i.dailymail.co.uk] )



IMAGE ( [link to i.dailymail.co.uk] )

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unbelievable...speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!
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clappa

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MAINSTREAM FAKERY JOB AS ALWAYS


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CNN Remembering victims of CT shooting
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Published on Dec 15, 2012
Wolf Blitzer profiles some of the reported victims of the school shooting in Newtown Connecticut.

Compare this couple with the couple in the link below:
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What disrepancies are listed here??

In the wake of unimaginable terror and chaos, certainly you yourselves could do better at gathering this information before 5:00 p.m. Friday.

The idiocy by some simply astounds me. Shut up and grieve people! Our children are under attack!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1697744



Don't you think we should find out who really did this?The attack is on our constitutional rights..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


So you just admitted you're more worried about your guns than the lives of the people who were killed. So badly that you want to make it about something that it's not. When truth doesn't serve you just make shit up to justify your need to keep your weapons. This is the sickness that has crept into our society like a cancer.
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sheepsheeplebah

No I'm actually worried about living in Nazi Germany... iamwith
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What disrepancies are listed here??

In the wake of unimaginable terror and chaos, certainly you yourselves could do better at gathering this information before 5:00 p.m. Friday.

The idiocy by some simply astounds me. Shut up and grieve people! Our children are under attack!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1697744



Don't you think we should find out who really did this?

The attack is on our constitutional rights..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


So you just admitted you're more worried about your guns than the lives of the people who were killed. So badly that you want to make it about something that it's not. When truth doesn't serve you just make shit up to justify your need to keep your weapons. This is the sickness that has crept into our society like a cancer.
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Hey dickless, it's not the poster who is making 'gun rights' the issue - it's the 'authorities' you worship who have, almost unanimously, come out with their agenda in the wake of this 'event'.
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The British Press had clearer, more accurate coverage of Jack the Ripper.
I would really like to thank everyone for untangling this, your work is impressive.
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I'm sure all those questions will be answered in time. It would be respectfull to let those families grieve and not start anything with the media over questions about their coverage that might upset them right there in their town though. not trying to suggest that all the facts shouldn't come out but those parents must be in terrible dispair right now. That whole town should probably be left alone to grieve and come to terms with this awful event.
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Yes... So that the truth can quietly die off, and the fervor to demand hard answers to relevant questions subsides a bit, so that the march against our rights and freedoms can continue to glide right along smoothly, and without opposition.
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The Newton Bee PULLED down the webpage that said:

"Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on."

[link to newtownbee.com]

Screenshot of proof of what that page looked like is here:

[link to i1053.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: Archangel_Gabriel


They should have pulled it. They reported incorrect info.

Media have a responsibility to clean up their mistakes.

I don't think it is trying to hide anything. It is trying to act responsibly.
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How exactly did they get such a specific quote from a dead principal? That's pretty impressive for a mistake.
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Ouija board, I should imagine.

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Posting again for those who glossed over it.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

First photo shows President Obama posing with Emilie Parker. Clear as day. Same dress as in the family photo, same part in her hair. Perhaps the daily mail made a mistake on labeling Emilie in the family photo and she's actually the girl on the left? Not possible, part in the hair doesn't match the photos of Emilie on the internet.

Smoking Gun.
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Is it just me or is that Emilie in the picture with Obama wearing black and red?
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YES!! I just noticed this oo!! in the same black and red dress as the memorial photo of the parents and their three daughters, which in the captions lists emilie parker in the black and red dress.....
 Quoting: oswaldkovsky




IMAGE ( [link to i.dailymail.co.uk] )



IMAGE ( [link to i.dailymail.co.uk] )

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28829093


unbelievable...speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!
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More than likely its the middle sister (oldest now) with Obama. It's not unusual for younger sisters to get their older sisters clothes once they grow out of them. I don't see this as a big deal or where your going with it.
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Is it just me or is that Emilie in the picture with Obama wearing black and red?
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YES!! I just noticed this oo!! in the same black and red dress as the memorial photo of the parents and their three daughters, which in the captions lists emilie parker in the black and red dress.....
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unbelievable...speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I believe its the little sister meeting the pres wearing emilie's (her sister)dress they do look very similar.
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Grow out of...maybe.

Days after her sister died she gets her hand me downs and is smiling with her family and Obama?

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YES!! I just noticed this oo!! in the same black and red dress as the memorial photo of the parents and their three daughters, which in the captions lists emilie parker in the black and red dress.....
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unbelievable...speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!
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More than likely its the middle sister (oldest now) with Obama. It's not unusual for younger sisters to get their older sisters clothes once they grow out of them. I don't see this as a big deal or where your going with it.
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Unlikely. For 3 reasons.

1) If that was the case, the sister on the left hasn't aged at all.

2) The part in the hair doesn't match. It matches Emilie's 100%

3) The Dad's hair is EXACTLY the same.
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Sign on sandy hook school reads 1956= 9 5+6= 11 9/11... Also Name of town changed from Newton to NEWTOWN...
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I for one understand what a hollow point bullet does to the human condition. My heart has sobbed for these children and adults. I understand what it feels like to take a bullet through the chest. I was a teenager when it happened. I can tell you first hand it does not hurt initially. What I was taken with: The smell. Blood has a very rich, sticky smell and feels like someone poured warm soup down your shirt when the bullet hits. The body tries to fight to survive. The worst part is the inability to breathe. I remember wanting to sit up but the more I moved the more energy I used. More energy means breathing faster and they cycle speeds up. I don't believe the children were afraid. I think they were in shock. I experienced a NDE as a result of my incident. It feels like going to sleep in a peaceful bed. If for people understood what a bullet penetrating the chest feels like there would be a greater sense of civil discourse. These were children enduring a violent and very bloody end to their little lives. Yes, children were shot that day. Why, I think the evidence is in the faces of the other children still at the school. Children tell it like it is and some of those precious faces tell the tale. Their lives were stolen. Their parents won't know the joy of parenting them beyond that day and all they have left to cherish are memories. But, why am I concerned? Why have I decided to follow along? It's rooted in my own experience with my own near fatal shooting. Humans can live after being shot. They can live for well over an hour if shot through the critical mass. It's not easy but the will to live is a powerful force to reckon with. When I was shot: I weighted about 150 pounds. I was in a rural country wooded area. The nearest ambulance was twenty minutes away and the nearest hospital another twenty minutes away. All volunteers that had to be summoned by air horns and pagers. I was also alone. But I was able to live. (barely) My concern: My instinct is telling me there should be more wounded to deaths than there is.
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Warrior poet:

I am sorry you had that happen to you, and I can understand why you think there should be more survivors.

But we have been told that the children were shot numerous times. Apparently, he kept standking there pumping bullets into each one. I don't see how the poor little ones could have survived that. One shot, maybe two. Maybe even three, if very, very lucky. But no more than that.
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It said on the news, close range too, He made sure he was extra close range to the victims who as little children would have been cornered and huddled in fear..
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Anyone watching Cnn? Ct. governor was responding to questions about gun control. When one of the reporters was asking a question Cnn cut the mic to the question and the Governors response. I'm really curious as to what the question and the response was, what did they not want us to hear?
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Here was a list I put together on another web site:
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1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.

2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count.)

3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).

4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan--who officials say is very cooperative--claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?

7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?

8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday--something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

9) The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children (according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.

10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?

11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?

12) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was he and what was he doing there?

13) What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?

14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?

15) Why were parents told on Friday that "if you haven't been reunited with your child by now it's already over"? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, "Okay, the show's over, let's go home now"?

16) Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn't they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?

17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children--difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?

18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?

19) Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?

20) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?

21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?

22) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?

23) Why won't police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?

24) Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?

25) Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that "they're coming at me through this wood," followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?

26) One officer in the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed), not dead.

27) Why didn't Adam's uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?

28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?

29) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such "protection" or not?

30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it's for their own benefit?

31) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
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Wow.
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Anyone else see this,nurse and secretary in closet for four hours before being found and guided out by police?Why did it take them four hours to secure the building?What if that had been more perps hiding in that closet all that time?

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They then raced into a supply closet and held the door closed. Cox said they remained there for close to four hours.

When the police made rounds, looking for survivors, they came across Cox and the secretary still in the office, and escorted them out of the building. Cox, who had tested every kid's hearing and vision in Sandy Hook, said the police shielded them from the horrific carnage in the hallway.
"They told us to close our eyes. They said, 'Close your eyes,'" she said.
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Wouldn't you just be able to tell something was seriously wrong even with your eyes closed? I mean just the mere prescene of their bodies would give off a vibration... wouldn't it?

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