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The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)

 
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OP: I suggest you compile all of this and then send a message to Anderson Cooper. Maybe his porgram can at least address some of the major points you have found. His show seems to like to do investigative reporting. I saw one report on charities with problems that the show did, and it was quite good.
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Just found this..added a post..I am adding this site here because I think it can tie in.

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It'd also be a good idea to give anything factual to NewAgeMessiah, he has bought a domain for this false flag, let it be heard.

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OP: I suggest you compile all of this and then send a message to Anderson Cooper. Maybe his porgram can at least address some of the major points you have found. His show seems to like to do investigative reporting. I saw one report on charities with problems that the show did, and it was quite good.
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Anderson Cooper of the famous Vanderbilt family? I'm sure that he'll be keen on exposing his fellow elite...
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OP: I suggest you compile all of this and then send a message to Anderson Cooper. Maybe his porgram can at least address some of the major points you have found. His show seems to like to do investigative reporting. I saw one report on charities with problems that the show did, and it was quite good.
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Anderson Cooper of the famous Vanderbilt family? I'm sure that he'll be keen on exposing his fellow elite...
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Yeah, he's too busy interviewing the Soto's and cutting to pics of Vicki Soto with a creepy old man flashing the devil horns sign in the background.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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OP: I suggest you compile all of this and then send a message to Anderson Cooper. Maybe his porgram can at least address some of the major points you have found. His show seems to like to do investigative reporting. I saw one report on charities with problems that the show did, and it was quite good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478493


Anderson Cooper of the famous Vanderbilt family? I'm sure that he'll be keen on exposing his fellow elite...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13841161


Yeah, he's too busy interviewing the Soto's and cutting to pics of Vicki Soto with a creepy old man flashing the devil horns sign in the background.
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And holding up his picture of the owl that Grace McDonnell drew that he's going to frame.

I'm sorry, but if I were a grieving family, I would not be giving a media personality a picture my child drew before she died. Ridiculous.
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OP: I suggest you compile all of this and then send a message to Anderson Cooper. Maybe his porgram can at least address some of the major points you have found. His show seems to like to do investigative reporting. I saw one report on charities with problems that the show did, and it was quite good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478493


Anderson Cooper of the famous Vanderbilt family? I'm sure that he'll be keen on exposing his fellow elite...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13841161


Yeah, he's too busy interviewing the Soto's and cutting to pics of Vicki Soto with a creepy old man flashing the devil horns sign in the background.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


And holding up his picture of the owl that Grace McDonnell drew that he's going to frame.

I'm sorry, but if I were a grieving family, I would not be giving a media personality a picture my child drew before she died. Ridiculous.
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Yeah. This is getting VERY in your face. If you are aware of Bohemian Grove and what goes on there...this should definitely raise more than just an eyebrow. Cremation of Care anyone?

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Discrepancy.

A family of secret elite actors plays Victim Family Soto and Victim family phelps:

www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2083489/pg12

Police audio has audio message included:
End the life of Adam!

Thread: End the life of Adam! Police scanner catches death sentence. Sandy hook drill. PIN!!!

Second guy in the woods escapes hides behind bush:
Thread: Second Suspect hiding in the woods walking away (Sandy hoax)
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Discrepancy.

A family of secret elite actors plays Victim Family Soto and Victim family phelps:

Thread: Another pair of actors in Sandy hoax exposed. 100% BUSTED! (Page 13)
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soooo many people need to be arrested....
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(Hasn't there been mention in other threads of NUNS in this event?)


from [link to newtomorrow.us]


Van with additional suspects pursued; possibly connected to the shootings

Reports surfaced that a purple/maroon van was being pursued by authorities, possibly in connection with the shootings.

This from the Mount Pleasant Daily Voice HERE

"Another report said police surrounded a purple van at 33 Crosby St. in Danbury that may be connected to Newtown school shooting."

And this from CBS News HERE

"Police believe there may be a second gunman and are looking for a red or maroon van with its back window blown out, 1010 WINS’ Al Jones reported."

And lastly, the following conversation was posted to the Connecticut Radio Discussion Forum in real-time as the events were unfolding. The individuals on this network monitor emergency radio scanners, and it was from this network where the aforementioned police scanner audio was pulled (Link HERE)

"Purple van with 2 suspects wearing ski masks one dressed in a nun's outfit, possibly related to this incident, being sought. Last seen in Danbury.
Per CSP, FBI personell on scene."

Manny

"Has there been any chatter on the purple van?"

Edit: "Danbury PD just reported the van near a bagel shop, passenger threw something in the garbage."

The question must then be asked: Did the authorities apprehend the suspects in this van, and if so, are they in any way connected with this event?

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Thanks to the moderators, as well as Watching the World, for at least the third pin of this post.

But, I take not glory in puffing up my personal ego. I am just grateful to be aware and awake and that some of you others on this website and on this thread in particular, have strengthened me and encouraged me to seek the truth, regardless of any possible consequences.

Let us continue to ask questions.

Notice how you are vehemently and instantly 'demonized' by your friends and relatives when you point out the major discrepancies, using the captured mainstream media's own videos and articles. Then, ask the person accusing you of being insensitive this: "Why are you angry at me? I just want the truth, I just want TRUE justice served." And then, in a polite manner, ask the person, "How many hours of television programming would you say you watch, on average per day? For how many years have you watched __ number of hours of television programming per day? Do you always accept as gospel truth everything the news reports?"

Try to pry open their mind, just a bit.
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And holding up his picture of the owl that Grace McDonnell drew that he's going to frame.


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Link, please, for those who have not seen this owl drawing. (Including myself.)

The owl is a symbol commonly associated the the Iluminati and the n.w.o.

The owl stands for an "all knowing" presence- omnipresent, omniscient, and not in a positive or optimistic manner....the owl is a metaphor for wicked knowledge and wicked "watching" as it is a hunter in the darkness...
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Thread: Is this the 2nd shooter?

This thug seems to be connected to this, but nobody is talking about it.


[link to www.youtube.com] watch?v=Y6C2YmOLWnM#!

Someone with screen name Sheila alien (sheilaaliens.net)has done a lot of investigative work on this and produced that video. There is a Cristopher Manfredonia mentioned as being caught by by police and he said he was there to help out in classroom of his child. Why he ran into the woods nobody knows. Much speculation in comments on this you tube page.

But if you read thru additional postings in the comments section (there are over 600 of them but it isn't that far down in the listings)you'll see that she plays more of the police calls tape and the cops also caught someone named Christopher A. Rodia who according to Sheila and to search engines (I looked) has an arrest & conviction record for sex with kids and several theft charges. Note: there are 2 different people with that same name in the area.

So where is Christopher right now?
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Right. I've linked to two different websites that have recent criminal records for Christopher Rodia.

He was at Sandy Hook that morning. He was detained by the police. It's on the scanner. It doesn't say Christopher Manfredonia on the scanner.

The cops spell out Rodia's last name.

They say, "R-O-D-I-A", that doesn't spell "relief" nor does it spell "Manfredonia."

It spells Rodia.

He has the theft charges. As far as I can tell, the other Christopher Rodia, who has the sex offender charges, is from Pennsylvania and his mugshot doesn't look like Christopher Rodia who I've linked to above, and who lives 30 miles away from Newtown. This is the other Christopher Rodia you are talking about, who is not the one that was detained in Newtown that morning: [link to www.offendex.com]

Let's be clear with our information and don't muddle the facts. They're obviously different people.

The police scanner clearly says

CHRISTOPHER RODIA with a date of birth of AUGUST 1969, which fits the evidence that I have provided in my links.

:)
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The guy who was brought into custody was reported to be Christopher Manfredonia. This is the man who was cuffed and supposedly walked by onlookers and said "I didn't do it." or something of that nature.

However, according to the scanner, his name was Christopher Rodia.
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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I just thought of something that doesn't make sense to me. The school and all information being released from the crime scene was locked down by say noonish. Why was the video released after dark (flashlights) and why did it take the authorities 6 hours to look in the shooters trunk. that video could have been from any crime scene. No information was released to the media they didn't want released. Seems like a diversion.
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I just thought of something that doesn't make sense to me. The school and all information being released from the crime scene was locked down by say noonish. Why was the video released after dark (flashlights) and why did it take the authorities 6 hours to look in the shooters trunk. that video could have been from any crime scene. No information was released to the media they didn't want released. Seems like a diversion.
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And why did the school nurse tell 60 minutes she spent 4 hours in the closet, while Lt. Vance said they went thru every "nook and cranny" of the building?
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For fuck sake, not everything is a psy-op / false flag.

Some of you americans don´t seem to get these type of events simply happen in a country where the possession of semi-automatic weapons by citizens is allowed, a country with a 'culture of violence' also: you get in your panties about one nippeslip during the superbowl, while the average childrencartoon or blockbuster movie shows more violence then the average chapter of the old testament.

The tendency to seek all kind of conspiracies / false flags / illuminati-actions behind these type of events (including 9/11, the V-tech shootings) is probably a result of you shouting your 'freedoms' (of press, information, the right to bear arms etc.) from the rooftops and AT THE SAME TIME not totally taking the responsibility for the things that come with these freedoms.

It's probably easier (influenced as you are by violent movies / sci-fi flicks, sensationalism and pure lousiness / ignorance) to blame (often non existing) illuminati / liberals / marxist and reptilians for these kind of attrocities, then to get to the bottomline: freedom comes with responsibilities.
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And holding up his picture of the owl that Grace McDonnell drew that he's going to frame.


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Link, please, for those who have not seen this owl drawing. (Including myself.)

The owl is a symbol commonly associated the the Iluminati and the n.w.o.

The owl stands for an "all knowing" presence- omnipresent, omniscient, and not in a positive or optimistic manner....the owl is a metaphor for wicked knowledge and wicked "watching" as it is a hunter in the darkness...
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[link to 4.bp.blogspot.com]

According to Cooper, the original was given to Obama, and he is going to frame it.
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And holding up his picture of the owl that Grace McDonnell drew that he's going to frame.


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Link, please, for those who have not seen this owl drawing. (Including myself.)

The owl is a symbol commonly associated the the Iluminati and the n.w.o.

The owl stands for an "all knowing" presence- omnipresent, omniscient, and not in a positive or optimistic manner....the owl is a metaphor for wicked knowledge and wicked "watching" as it is a hunter in the darkness...
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For fuck sake, not everything is a psy-op / false flag.

Some of you americans don´t seem to get these type of events simply happen in a country where the possession of semi-automatic weapons by citizens is allowed, a country with a 'culture of violence' also: you get in your panties about one nippeslip during the superbowl, while the average childrencartoon or blockbuster movie shows more violence then the average chapter of the old testament.

The tendency to seek all kind of conspiracies / false flags / illuminati-actions behind these type of events (including 9/11, the V-tech shootings) is probably a result of you shouting your 'freedoms' (of press, information, the right to bear arms etc.) from the rooftops and AT THE SAME TIME not totally taking the responsibility for the things that come with these freedoms.

It's probably easier (influenced as you are by violent movies / sci-fi flicks, sensationalism and pure lousiness / ignorance) to blame (often non existing) illuminati / liberals / marxist and reptilians for these kind of attrocities, then to get to the bottomline: freedom comes with responsibilities.
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I can only speak for myself, but I have never posted on this site till yesterday, although I'm a frequent visitor. What prompted me to do so was this:
Thread: UPDATE: Sandy Hook Inconsistencies Abound - Survivors from Ms. Soto's class - Censored by WTIC radio

I believe something is up here based on how it smells. I don't see conspiracies everywhere, but I am starting to see one here.
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OP: I suggest you compile all of this and then send a message to Anderson Cooper. Maybe his porgram can at least address some of the major points you have found. His show seems to like to do investigative reporting. I saw one report on charities with problems that the show did, and it was quite good.
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Anderson Cooper of the famous Vanderbilt family? I'm sure that he'll be keen on exposing his fellow elite...
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Yeah, he's too busy interviewing the Soto's and cutting to pics of Vicki Soto with a creepy old man flashing the devil horns sign in the background.
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And holding up his picture of the owl that Grace McDonnell drew that he's going to frame.

I'm sorry, but if I were a grieving family, I would not be giving a media personality a picture my child drew before she died. Ridiculous.
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She drew an owl??? hmmmm owls are portents of death are they not?
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She drew an owl??? hmmmm owls are portents of death are they not?
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YES:

Among the Kikuyu of Kenya it was believed that owls were harbingers of death. If one saw an owl or heard its hoot, someone was going to die. In general, owls are viewed as harbingers of bad luck, ill health, or death. The belief is widespread even today.

In the culture of the Uto-Aztec tribe, the Hopi, taboos surround owls, which are associated with sorcery and other evils. The Aztecs and Maya, along with other Natives of Mesoamerica, considered the owl a symbol of death and destruction. In fact, the Aztec god of death, Mictlantecuhtli, was often depicted with owls.

The Popol Vuh, a Mayan religious text, describes owls as messengers of Xibalba (the Mayan "Place of Fright"). The belief that owls are messengers and harbingers of the dark powers is also found among the Hočągara (Winnebago) of Wisconsin. Also, in the native Cherokee culture, as well as many other Native American cultures, owls are a very bad omen. It is said that if you are outside in the broad day light and an owl flies over your head a family member or loved one would die within the coming week.

In Arab mythology, owls are seen as bad omens.
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I can only speak for myself, but I have never posted on this site till yesterday, although I'm a frequent visitor. What prompted me to do so was this:
Thread: Sandy Hook Inconsistencies Abound - Survivors from Ms. Soto's class - Censored by WTIC radio

I believe something is up here based on how it smells. I don't see conspiracies everywhere, but I am starting to see one here.

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Fair point, but unfortunately with these type of events I too often see people who automatically label it a false flag or psy-op, even when the event is still happening!
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For fuck sake, not everything is a psy-op / false flag.

Some of you americans don´t seem to get these type of events simply happen in a country where the possession of semi-automatic weapons by citizens is allowed, a country with a 'culture of violence' also: you get in your panties about one nippeslip during the superbowl, while the average childrencartoon or blockbuster movie shows more violence then the average chapter of the old testament.

The tendency to seek all kind of conspiracies / false flags / illuminati-actions behind these type of events (including 9/11, the V-tech shootings) is probably a result of you shouting your 'freedoms' (of press, information, the right to bear arms etc.) from the rooftops and AT THE SAME TIME not totally taking the responsibility for the things that come with these freedoms.

It's probably easier (influenced as you are by violent movies / sci-fi flicks, sensationalism and pure lousiness / ignorance) to blame (often non existing) illuminati / liberals / marxist and reptilians for these kind of attrocities, then to get to the bottomline: freedom comes with responsibilities.
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When you have a rogue power hungry oppressive government you have to question everything the government says and does, cause if you don't keep them in check you'll wind up like the rest of the world. America is the only true free country...at least for now.
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OP: I suggest you compile all of this and then send a message to Anderson Cooper. Maybe his porgram can at least address some of the major points you have found. His show seems to like to do investigative reporting. I saw one report on charities with problems that the show did, and it was quite good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478493


Anderson Cooper of the famous Vanderbilt family? I'm sure that he'll be keen on exposing his fellow elite...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13841161


Yeah, he's too busy interviewing the Soto's and cutting to pics of Vicki Soto with a creepy old man flashing the devil horns sign in the background.
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And holding up his picture of the owl that Grace McDonnell drew that he's going to frame.

I'm sorry, but if I were a grieving family, I would not be giving a media personality a picture my child drew before she died. Ridiculous.
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And that interview AC did with her parents was unbelievable - they showed NO emotion, admitted they were not able to see their daughter, just a white casket - and they were ok with that! The mother's hair is fixed, make-up in place, earrings, she acts like nothing happened.

WHO in the world could even function, much less get all dressed up and give interviews??!!!!
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For fuck sake, not everything is a psy-op / false flag.

Some of you americans don´t seem to get these type of events simply happen in a country where the possession of semi-automatic weapons by citizens is allowed, a country with a 'culture of violence' also: you get in your panties about one nippeslip during the superbowl, while the average childrencartoon or blockbuster movie shows more violence then the average chapter of the old testament.

The tendency to seek all kind of conspiracies / false flags / illuminati-actions behind these type of events (including 9/11, the V-tech shootings) is probably a result of you shouting your 'freedoms' (of press, information, the right to bear arms etc.) from the rooftops and AT THE SAME TIME not totally taking the responsibility for the things that come with these freedoms.

It's probably easier (influenced as you are by violent movies / sci-fi flicks, sensationalism and pure lousiness / ignorance) to blame (often non existing) illuminati / liberals / marxist and reptilians for these kind of attrocities, then to get to the bottomline: freedom comes with responsibilities.
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Very well said. Unfortunately you will soon be called a SHILL, insulted, and cursed at by the true believers of GLP.
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For fuck sake, not everything is a psy-op / false flag.

Some of you americans don´t seem to get these type of events simply happen in a country where the possession of semi-automatic weapons by citizens is allowed, a country with a 'culture of violence' also: you get in your panties about one nippeslip during the superbowl, while the average childrencartoon or blockbuster movie shows more violence then the average chapter of the old testament.

The tendency to seek all kind of conspiracies / false flags / illuminati-actions behind these type of events (including 9/11, the V-tech shootings) is probably a result of you shouting your 'freedoms' (of press, information, the right to bear arms etc.) from the rooftops and AT THE SAME TIME not totally taking the responsibility for the things that come with these freedoms.

It's probably easier (influenced as you are by violent movies / sci-fi flicks, sensationalism and pure lousiness / ignorance) to blame (often non existing) illuminati / liberals / marxist and reptilians for these kind of attrocities, then to get to the bottomline: freedom comes with responsibilities.
 Quoting: Riverman 1487773


Wow, you must be one highly paid shill/disinformation agent! You make a number of absolutely spot-on points, which I agree completely with! But, then you obfuscate the issue by linking them together, where no link exists. Also, mentioning 9/11 is another "tell" that you are here to purposefully cloud the issues.

I agree there is a lack of responsibility in the U.S., from the average man and woman in their own lives, up to major corporations (bailout/too-big-to-fail) to even the President (Clinton with the Lewinsky scandal, Nixon with Watergate).
I also agree that freedom comes with responsibilities, which are not being met by the great majority of Americans.
I also agree that there is a 'culture of violence' in the U.S., which is a major reason why the people have become desensitized to violence, and why such heinous acts are perpetrated.

You mention the nippleslip during the Superbowl. Most Americans were outraged for two main reasons:
1. The Superbowl is watched by millions of Americans of all ages- including young children, and it was absolutely inappropriate.
2. There is no way that happens by mistake. It was planned, and the cover-up and denial of responsibility is what TRULY made Americans outraged.

But, you cloud the issue. Yes, freedom comes with responsibilities. And, in this case, the responsibility is to seek out the truth, and to hound the media and authorities/investigators for answers...NOT to sit back and accept the story(stories) we are told through the captured mainstream media.

And, since you bring up 9/11/2001, I have one question for you: "How many planes hit skyscraper buildings that day? Now, how many skyscraper buildings completely collapsed in downtown Manhattan on the day of September 11, 2001?"
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Re: The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)
For fuck sake, not everything is a psy-op / false flag.

Some of you americans don´t seem to get these type of events simply happen in a country where the possession of semi-automatic weapons by citizens is allowed, a country with a 'culture of violence' also: you get in your panties about one nippeslip during the superbowl, while the average childrencartoon or blockbuster movie shows more violence then the average chapter of the old testament.

The tendency to seek all kind of conspiracies / false flags / illuminati-actions behind these type of events (including 9/11, the V-tech shootings) is probably a result of you shouting your 'freedoms' (of press, information, the right to bear arms etc.) from the rooftops and AT THE SAME TIME not totally taking the responsibility for the things that come with these freedoms.

It's probably easier (influenced as you are by violent movies / sci-fi flicks, sensationalism and pure lousiness / ignorance) to blame (often non existing) illuminati / liberals / marxist and reptilians for these kind of attrocities, then to get to the bottomline: freedom comes with responsibilities.
 Quoting: Riverman 1487773


Wow, you must be one highly paid shill/disinformation agent! You make a number of absolutely spot-on points, which I agree completely with! But, then you obfuscate the issue by linking them together, where no link exists. Also, mentioning 9/11 is another "tell" that you are here to purposefully cloud the issues.

I agree there is a lack of responsibility in the U.S., from the average man and woman in their own lives, up to major corporations (bailout/too-big-to-fail) to even the President (Clinton with the Lewinsky scandal, Nixon with Watergate).
I also agree that freedom comes with responsibilities, which are not being met by the great majority of Americans.
I also agree that there is a 'culture of violence' in the U.S., which is a major reason why the people have become desensitized to violence, and why such heinous acts are perpetrated.

You mention the nippleslip during the Superbowl. Most Americans were outraged for two main reasons:
1. The Superbowl is watched by millions of Americans of all ages- including young children, and it was absolutely inappropriate.
2. There is no way that happens by mistake. It was planned, and the cover-up and denial of responsibility is what TRULY made Americans outraged.

But, you cloud the issue. Yes, freedom comes with responsibilities. And, in this case, the responsibility is to seek out the truth, and to hound the media and authorities/investigators for answers...NOT to sit back and accept the story(stories) we are told through the captured mainstream media.

And, since you bring up 9/11/2001, I have one question for you: "How many planes hit skyscraper buildings that day? Now, how many skyscraper buildings completely collapsed in downtown Manhattan on the day of September 11, 2001?"
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