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The owl Grace McDonnell drew:

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I know many on here don't like DGB, but what if he is similar to other psy-ops and is just another trickster with half truths?

In any event, the company he blames for much of the deception is Radian Helix media. Here is an interesting link on their facebook page:

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This thread is proof that christianity and make you paranoid ans insane....geez some of you are just dumb idiot hicks MY GOD!!!
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All of the msm story sounds plausible. I mean who knows? Thank god this doesnt happen every day. But the one thing that struck me very wrong was that all victoms were dead. I guess now they say 2 are alive but i have not heard anything more about them. Do u know how hard it is to kill that many people even with multiple hits in that short of a period of time? Well i dont either but i am a combat vet that has been in 3 tours. Check the number of our wounded in action compared to kia. There is a huge difference for a reason. There are only so many vital spots to hit. This kid would have had to walk around putting multiple rounds into each child while dropping and reloading clips and then at one point was deadly accurate while being rushed. I was in an elite unit while i served and i can tell u that this is the stat that threw me. I dont mean to sound calous. I am grieved over these kids. I just think the chance of an eratic, deranged kid with a 100% deat to victom ratio is unrealistic. However i do know the damage a .223 could do to a tiny body. Still seams there would be some survivors. The whole thing only lasted 10 minutes.
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All of the msm story sounds plausible. I mean who knows? Thank god this doesnt happen every day. But the one thing that struck me very wrong was that all victoms were dead. I guess now they say 2 are alive but i have not heard anything more about them. Do u know how hard it is to kill that many people even with multiple hits in that short of a period of time? Well i dont either but i am a combat vet that has been in 3 tours. Check the number of our wounded in action compared to kia. There is a huge difference for a reason. There are only so many vital spots to hit. This kid would have had to walk around putting multiple rounds into each child while dropping and reloading clips and then at one point was deadly accurate while being rushed. I was in an elite unit while i served and i can tell u that this is the stat that threw me. I dont mean to sound calous. I am grieved over these kids. I just think the chance of an eratic, deranged kid with a 100% deat to victom ratio is unrealistic. However i do know the damage a .223 could do to a tiny body. Still seams there would be some survivors. The whole thing only lasted 10 minutes.
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You raise some good points.
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This thread is proof that christianity and make you paranoid ans insane....geez some of you are just dumb idiot hicks MY GOD!!!
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Mother of murdered Sandy hook substitute teacher Lauren Rousseau says the car she drove to school that day was shot up:

"According to Rousseau, the slain teacher’s 2004 Honda Civic — parked outside the school — was riddled with bullets when authorities removed the vehicle."

Wonder how that happened?

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
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Teleporting bullets?

Supposedly there were no bullet holes outside the school.. nor shattered windows.
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Plausible to a braindead retard like you maybe... which elite unit was that you were in... 101st Dumb Asses?

Look stupid... there is no way 100 plus shots were fired from 2 pistols in a matter of minutes.


6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a
rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was
littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in
the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his
car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and
could not have committed the murders. Who did?

All of the msm story sounds plausible. I mean who knows? Thank god this doesnt happen every day. But the one thing that struck me very wrong was that all victoms were dead. I guess now they say 2 are alive but i have not heard anything more about them. Do u know how hard it is to kill that many people even with multiple hits in that short of a period of time? Well i dont either but i am a combat vet that has been in 3 tours. Check the number of our wounded in action compared to kia. There is a huge difference for a reason. There are only so many vital spots to hit. This kid would have had to walk around putting multiple rounds into each child while dropping and reloading clips and then at one point was deadly accurate while being rushed. I was in an elite unit while i served and i can tell u that this is the stat that threw me. I dont mean to sound calous. I am grieved over these kids. I just think the chance of an eratic, deranged kid with a 100% deat to victom ratio is unrealistic. However i do know the damage a .223 could do to a tiny body. Still seams there would be some survivors. The whole thing only lasted 10 minutes.
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One story claims the gunman demanded to know where the children were, another story said the gunman was silent the whole time. Another piece that doesn't add up.
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Apparently Nancy controlled everything in Adams life, down to when he spoke or made a move. Something is definitely strange.



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That isn't strange if you look at the witnesses/family friends etc describing his behavior and symptoms. You have to remember this kid has aspergers and most likely personality disorders. He was as far as I've understood VERY dependent on his mother. She was also in a room next to his class when he attended school, I read somewhere. Which would also be most likely.
Someone mentioned , also in the media (reliable or not), that he only listened to his mom, would only say hello to people if his mom told him to, walk away if she told him to, etc. Which is more or less normal for children with aspergers. (this is a pretty extreme case though, I do believe he was very troubled.) The whole "being under the ground for two years" thing also completely adds up with his diagnosis and the circumstances.

I don't believe the whole "they're all actors"-theory. I believe they are very real, and people do handle grief differently, remember it's a very traumatizing situation.


The things I really need answered:

why was the fourth staffmember he was arguing with the 13th not in school that day? And more important: What was the argument about?

and where's peter lanza, his girlfriend and the missing friend?
is it grief, are they dead? ..They need to stop hiding all of this and give me the information I so desperately crave -_-
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Want to throw something else out there:

Remember when Lt. Vance said last Friday that they had recovered "very good" evidence at the Lanza home? I distinctly remember the phrase, because I thought the use of the word "good" was a bit out of place in this situation. Anyway, it's now been reported that they have found very little evidence on Lanza thus far, as his computer hard drives were destroyed.
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In all the posts no one has mentioned Sandy Hook and hurricane sandy? Is this another coincidence
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Want to throw something else out there:

Remember when Lt. Vance said last Friday that they had recovered "very good" evidence at the Lanza home? I distinctly remember the phrase, because I thought the use of the word "good" was a bit out of place in this situation. Anyway, it's now been reported that they have found very little evidence on Lanza thus far, as his computer hard drives were destroyed.
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what is Sandy Hook hiding, and why are they hiding it?
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Want to throw something else out there:

Remember when Lt. Vance said last Friday that they had recovered "very good" evidence at the Lanza home? I distinctly remember the phrase, because I thought the use of the word "good" was a bit out of place in this situation. Anyway, it's now been reported that they have found very little evidence on Lanza thus far, as his computer hard drives were destroyed.
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what is Sandy Hook hiding, and why are they hiding it?
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Vance now says that a final report won't be ready for months. By then, most people will have forgotten all the conflicting data (most already have) and there'll only be the official story left.

I'm on a crusade to get the truth out. What needs to happen is for a Newtown resident, someone known and respected, to start questioning things.
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Plausible to a braindead retard like you maybe... which elite unit was that you were in... 101st Dumb Asses?

Look stupid... there is no way 100 plus shots were fired from 2 pistols in a matter of minutes.


6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a
rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was
littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in
the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his
car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and
could not have committed the murders. Who did?

All of the msm story sounds plausible. I mean who knows? Thank god this doesnt happen every day. But the one thing that struck me very wrong was that all victoms were dead. I guess now they say 2 are alive but i have not heard anything more about them. Do u know how hard it is to kill that many people even with multiple hits in that short of a period of time? Well i dont either but i am a combat vet that has been in 3 tours. Check the number of our wounded in action compared to kia. There is a huge difference for a reason. There are only so many vital spots to hit. This kid would have had to walk around putting multiple rounds into each child while dropping and reloading clips and then at one point was deadly accurate while being rushed. I was in an elite unit while i served and i can tell u that this is the stat that threw me. I dont mean to sound calous. I am grieved over these kids. I just think the chance of an eratic, deranged kid with a 100% deat to victom ratio is unrealistic. However i do know the damage a .223 could do to a tiny body. Still seams there would be some survivors. The whole thing only lasted 10 minutes.
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As you stated 2 people were injured but did not die, which means 10% of the injured did not die. It is no surprise to me that their little bodies could not handle up to eleven bullet holes.
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Mother of murdered Sandy hook substitute teacher Lauren Rousseau says the car she drove to school that day was shot up:

"According to Rousseau, the slain teacher’s 2004 Honda Civic — parked outside the school — was riddled with bullets when authorities removed the vehicle."

Wonder how that happened?

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1389434



Teleporting bullets?

Supposedly there were no bullet holes outside the school.. nor shattered windows.
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Rousseau was also the name of the french character on LOST who was mad...
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Plausible to a braindead retard like you maybe... which elite unit was that you were in... 101st Dumb Asses?

Look stupid... there is no way 100 plus shots were fired from 2 pistols in a matter of minutes.


6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a
rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was
littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in
the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his
car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and
could not have committed the murders. Who did?

All of the msm story sounds plausible. I mean who knows? Thank god this doesnt happen every day. But the one thing that struck me very wrong was that all victoms were dead. I guess now they say 2 are alive but i have not heard anything more about them. Do u know how hard it is to kill that many people even with multiple hits in that short of a period of time? Well i dont either but i am a combat vet that has been in 3 tours. Check the number of our wounded in action compared to kia. There is a huge difference for a reason. There are only so many vital spots to hit. This kid would have had to walk around putting multiple rounds into each child while dropping and reloading clips and then at one point was deadly accurate while being rushed. I was in an elite unit while i served and i can tell u that this is the stat that threw me. I dont mean to sound calous. I am grieved over these kids. I just think the chance of an eratic, deranged kid with a 100% deat to victom ratio is unrealistic. However i do know the damage a .223 could do to a tiny body. Still seams there would be some survivors. The whole thing only lasted 10 minutes.
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As you stated 2 people were injured but did not die, which means 10% of the injured did not die. It is no surprise to me that their little bodies could not handle up to eleven bullet holes.
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TWO ARE ALIVE??? WTH they said ALL died.
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Want to throw something else out there:

Remember when Lt. Vance said last Friday that they had recovered "very good" evidence at the Lanza home? I distinctly remember the phrase, because I thought the use of the word "good" was a bit out of place in this situation. Anyway, it's now been reported that they have found very little evidence on Lanza thus far, as his computer hard drives were destroyed.
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what is Sandy Hook hiding, and why are they hiding it?
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Vance now says that a final report won't be ready for months. By then, most people will have forgotten all the conflicting data (most already have) and there'll only be the official story left.

I'm on a crusade to get the truth out. What needs to happen is for a Newtown resident, someone known and respected, to start questioning things.
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well, usually the MSM can get a court order to force the
bozos to release all of the information (there is no
defendant whose right to a fair trail to protect) we are free
to hang him in the court of public opinion, by golly.

i appreciate all your efforts in staying on top of this
story. thank you.
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I mentioned this in another thread about Sandy Hook because it bothered me. I'm adding it here too. I bolded and made red the parts that bothered me.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

In his introduction, Connecticut governor Dannel Malloy said that Mr Obama told him privately that Friday was the most difficult day of his term in office.

Deep sobs and sniffles filled the room throughout the service - but tears did not truly begin until Jason Graves took the podium to offer a Muslim prayer on behalf of the Al Hedeya Islamic Center of Newtown.

Mr Graves' voice choked and crackled as he assured the mourners that God's love was there for anyone asked for it.

Adults and children sitting in the audience, who initially turned their faces away as a prayer was recited in Arabic, were reduced to deep sorrowful cries.
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I mentioned this in another thread about Sandy Hook because it bothered me. I'm adding it here too. I bolded and made red the parts that bothered me.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

In his introduction, Connecticut governor Dannel Malloy said that Mr Obama told him privately that Friday was the most difficult day of his term in office.

Deep sobs and sniffles filled the room throughout the service - but tears did not truly begin until Jason Graves took the podium to offer a Muslim prayer on behalf of the Al Hedeya Islamic Center of Newtown.

Mr Graves' voice choked and crackled as he assured the mourners that God's love was there for anyone asked for it.

Adults and children sitting in the audience, who initially turned their faces away as a prayer was recited in Arabic, were reduced to deep sorrowful cries.
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i'm not buying your veiled promotional comment for Islam. sorry.
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I mentioned this in another thread about Sandy Hook because it bothered me. I'm adding it here too. I bolded and made red the parts that bothered me.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

In his introduction, Connecticut governor Dannel Malloy said that Mr Obama told him privately that Friday was the most difficult day of his term in office.

Deep sobs and sniffles filled the room throughout the service - but tears did not truly begin until Jason Graves took the podium to offer a Muslim prayer on behalf of the Al Hedeya Islamic Center of Newtown.

Mr Graves' voice choked and crackled as he assured the mourners that God's love was there for anyone asked for it.

Adults and children sitting in the audience, who initially turned their faces away as a prayer was recited in Arabic, were reduced to deep sorrowful cries.
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i'm not buying your veiled promotional comment for Islam. sorry.
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Say what? All I did was copy it from the linked story. I'm not promoting anything. s226
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This is not a discrepancy, more like a mystery. On the night of the shooting I was watching CNN. Don Lemon was interviewing Lou Palumbo, Director of Elite Intelligence....

I listened to the interview and this is what Palumbo said towards the end of the interview.

"I don't think that these people realize how much heartache they are causing."

I have tried to find it and not having any luck. Found transcripts and it's not on there. Did anyone else hear this?
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To whom was he referring?
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Everyone needs to watch this interview: I know everyone handles grief differently, but this is bizarre:


[link to cnn.com]



Does this woman look familiar to anyone here?

Can any of you imagine that a mother who had just lost her little girl to a brutal murder could fix her hair and make-up, put on lip gloss and earrings and give an interview?

Could you give that interview without ONCE breaking down, without shedding a tear?

Could you give that interview and laugh and smile?

How could a mother tell a story about the peace sign and not have even ONE tear in her eyes?

Do either of them even look vaguely as though they had been crying?

Would you actually be concerned about how hard it was for Obama to have to meet all the parents?

Would you just accept being told that you could not see your daughter, but instead, just a white casket - and accept that?

They took Sharpies and completely covered the casket with drawings?

And THAT gave them "joy" when they left the room?

Could any of you as parents - do all that and not even know for sure if your child was in that casket or what really may have happened?

Bizarre.
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From another thread I replied to:

So first there were three weapons, and the shooter used the pistols but left the AR in the trunk.

Then second version, he shot everyone with the AR, and finished himself with the Glock.

Then third version, there were four weapons.

Then fourth version, there were three weapons again.

First he was Ryan aged 20, based on identification in his pocket, except that Ryan is 24 which the i.d. would have said 24 not 20. (Big screw up, this one's a smoking gun).

Then he was Adam.

His mom was a teacher at the school, then she was a substitute, then no one had ever heard of her.

No one knew Adam, yet they buzzed him in because he rang the buzzer, standing there outside the door with three, no two, no four, no three weapons. Wait, they didn't buzz him in, he shot his way in. Wait, they knew him, he was the quiet one that had gone to school there.

There was an altercation a few days earlier where he had argued with the principal and the school psychologist. No, wait, there was no altercation at all.

He had an altercation with his mom, though, and shot her. Oh wait, he shot her while she was in bed asleep.

He shot his dad in Hoboken, too, oh wait, my bad, dad is still around.

His girlfriend has been missing for days, but what girlfriend was that? Haven't heard another word about the search for the mass murderer's missing girlfriend.

He didn't do it alone, there were two shooters, one of them was caught in the woods. His name? Oh, wait, even though he was dressed in dark clothing and called out to parents that "I didn't shoot them", now he never existed.

So then there was just the one shooter, Adam. He (or they, depending on when you turned on the tv) was dressed all in black, or was it in camo, or maybe pants and a dark jacket, with a mask, and also without a mask.
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This is not a discrepancy, more like a mystery. On the night of the shooting I was watching CNN. Don Lemon was interviewing Lou Palumbo, Director of Elite Intelligence....

I listened to the interview and this is what Palumbo said towards the end of the interview.

"I don't think that these people realize how much heartache they are causing."

I have tried to find it and not having any luck. Found transcripts and it's not on there. Did anyone else hear this?
 Quoting: Lilbabez33



To whom was he referring?
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That is the mystery. He was talking to Don Lemon and just said that which is why it caught my attention. What comes to mind is the people responsible for the tragedy. What else can you make of that statement. Could be the reason it's been left out.

I know that after he said that, Don Lemon seemed to quickly get on to something else.
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Everyone needs to watch this interview: I know everyone handles grief differently, but this is bizarre:


[link to cnn.com]



Does this woman look familiar to anyone here?

Can any of you imagine that a mother who had just lost her little girl to a brutal murder could fix her hair and make-up, put on lip gloss and earrings and give an interview?

Could you give that interview without ONCE breaking down, without shedding a tear?

Could you give that interview and laugh and smile?

How could a mother tell a story about the peace sign and not have even ONE tear in her eyes?

Do either of them even look vaguely as though they had been crying?

Would you actually be concerned about how hard it was for Obama to have to meet all the parents?

Would you just accept being told that you could not see your daughter, but instead, just a white casket - and accept that?

They took Sharpies and completely covered the casket with drawings?

And THAT gave them "joy" when they left the room?

Could any of you as parents - do all that and not even know for sure if your child was in that casket or what really may have happened?

Bizarre.
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Bizarre doesn't even begin to describe that. Lots of people are wondering the same thing. The hair, the makeup the fact that they don't look like they were crying at all. They do not appear to be at all upset.
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Some more "facts" to cross check
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Newtown Massacre: Teacher Kept Kids Calm
By LAUREN EFFRON and NIKKI BATTISTE | Good Morning America – Fri, Dec 14, 2012 2:21 PM EST


There was so much gunfire rocking the Sandy Hook Elementary school that one teacher doubted that she and her young students, locked in a bathroom, were going to survive.

A third grade student said the kids were so scared she thought she was going to throw up. Another said he hid in a closet.

The gunfire erupted during first grade teacher Kaitlin Roig's morning meeting with her 14 students, what she called "a happy, amazing part of the day."

That day quickly turned into a nightmare.

"Suddenly, I heard rapid fire... like an assault weapon. I knew something was wrong," Roig, 29, told "World News" anchor Diane Sawyer.

"It was horrific," she said. "I didn't think we were going to live."

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Alexis Wasik, an 8-year-old third grader, was startled when she heard someone rapidly firing off rounds inside another classroom. At first, she didn't know what was going on, but then she began to hear the sirens wail.

"We heard an ambulance and police officer come and everyone was a little scared crying and I felt actually a little sick and like I was going to throw up," she said. "Kids were crying, not really like screaming, but they were all huddling together. They felt so sick."

It was 9:41 a.m. when the first 911 call came into Connecticut State Police that multiple students at Sandy Hook Elementary School were locked in a classroom with a gunman. Adam Lanza killed 20 students and six adults at the school.

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When the shooting began, Roig said she quickly got up and closed her classroom door and ushered the children, all aged 6 and 7, into the class bathroom. She helped some climb onto the toilet so they could all fit. Roig said she then pushed a wheeled storage unit in front of the door.

"We all got in there. I locked us in," she said. "I don't know if [the gunman] came in the room... I just told them we have to be absolutely quiet."

"If they started crying, I would take their face and tell them, 'It's going to be OK,'" Roig continued. "I wanted that to be the last thing they heard, not the gunfire in the hall."

Roig said she just tried to stay strong for her students, but she didn't think they would make it out of the classroom alive.

"I thought we were all going to die," she said through tears. "I told the kids I love them and I was so happy they were my students... I said anyone who believed in the power of the prayer, we need to pray and those who don't believe in prayer" think happy thoughts.

Throughout the ordeal, Roig said her students were being very good and she tried to remain positive for them.

"They asked, 'Can we go see if anyone is out there... I just want Christmas... I don't want to die, I just want to have Christmas," she said.

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The gunfire didn't last very long, Roig said, but even when it stopped, she refused to take the kids out of the bathroom. When she heard knocking on the door a little while later, she said heard voices saying they were police officers, but she refused to open the door. Scared it was the gunman trying to lure them out, Roig told them to slide their badges under the bathroom door to prove their identities.

"I didn't believe them," she said. "I told them if they were cops, they could get the key... They did and then unlocked the bathroom."

Students who spoke to ABC News Radio told more stories of teachers who protected them during the shooting rampage. One 9-year-old boy said his class heard "a lot of bangs" and at first they thought a custodian had "knocked stuff down." Then they heard screaming.

"Police came in, said like 'Is he in here?' Then he ran out and then our teacher, somebody, yelled, 'get to a safe place.' So we went to the closet in the gym," the boy said. "The police were like knocking on the door and they're like 'we're evacuating people, we're evacuating people,' so we ran out."

After the police got Roig and her class out of their room, she said she and the children were taken to the nearby fire station, which had been set up as a staging area for parents to come pick up their kids.

That fire house, where Christmas wreaths and poinsettias are for sale, has been turned into a place of grief where frantic parents were either reuniting with their children or learning that their children are dead, or were still waiting for word.

Children stared wide-eyed as they watched state police troopers in body armor, holding raised rifles, quickly rush to secure the scene at their school. Parents said they had never been so panicked. One father, hoping to preserve a semblance of innocence, shielded his son's eyes with his forearm.

Wasik's mother said she found out about a shooting through the school's alert system, which sent her a message about a lockdown, and is still in disbelief.

"It just doesn't seem real," she said. "It feels like a nightmare. You drop your kids at school, hugs and kisses, have a good day, I'll see you later and see you at the end of the day and you never know.. in 20 minutes from now what's going to happen. And you count your blessing everyday for what you have.

theres also another helicopter video on the page
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Wow, she managed to be politically correct with all the chaos?
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Www.crisisactors.org

For all those who think it is impossible for actors to have been used...

I can't get it to link...
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The photo of "Veronique Pozner" leaving the funeral of "son" "Noah Pozner" only 3 days after he was "shot"

WAVING TO THE MEDIA

WITH A WEDDING RING ON HER MIDDLE FINGER

their way of saying EFF YEW, we fooled you again.


Not to mention all the other people outside the school, the funeral homes hugging, crying, grieving.... and seemingly not bothered at all by these intrusive camerapeople in their faces???
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One story claims the gunman demanded to know where the children were....
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Maybe Lanza was snooping around his mothers and other local peoples emails, like the doc and the sheriff looking for evidence that he was about to be committed.

Maybe he came across evidence of a child trafficking ring and went to the school "looking for the children"

Maybe through his computer genius he came across an elaborate plot and decided to out it

Hence the quickly assembled cover-up and the reason it seems to be falling apart

Just at thought
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Plausible to a braindead retard like you maybe... which elite unit was that you were in... 101st Dumb Asses?

Look stupid... there is no way 100 plus shots were fired from 2 pistols in a matter of minutes.


6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a
rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was
littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in
the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his
car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and
could not have committed the murders. Who did?

All of the msm story sounds plausible. I mean who knows? Thank god this doesnt happen every day. But the one thing that struck me very wrong was that all victoms were dead. I guess now they say 2 are alive but i have not heard anything more about them. Do u know how hard it is to kill that many people even with multiple hits in that short of a period of time? Well i dont either but i am a combat vet that has been in 3 tours. Check the number of our wounded in action compared to kia. There is a huge difference for a reason. There are only so many vital spots to hit. This kid would have had to walk around putting multiple rounds into each child while dropping and reloading clips and then at one point was deadly accurate while being rushed. I was in an elite unit while i served and i can tell u that this is the stat that threw me. I dont mean to sound calous. I am grieved over these kids. I just think the chance of an eratic, deranged kid with a 100% deat to victom ratio is unrealistic. However i do know the damage a .223 could do to a tiny body. Still seams there would be some survivors. The whole thing only lasted 10 minutes.
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As you stated 2 people were injured but did not die, which means 10% of the injured did not die. It is no surprise to me that their little bodies could not handle up to eleven bullet holes.
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TWO ARE ALIVE??? WTH they said ALL died.


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