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| JanJan User ID: 18450840 12/16/2012 01:34 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are you "sure" of this when it never happens? Time after time--going back to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, or Pearl Harbor, or even the sinking of the Maine--the pertinent questions are never answered, because the people in power don't want us to know the truth. What families? We have not yet seen any evidence that anyone died at all. Only one parent, Robbie Parker, has referred to the loss of a child at all. Indeed, one of the most suspicious aspects of this incident is that we have not seen any grieving parents. The issue is not so much the media per se, but the glaring holes in the Official Story. We most certainly do not want to give the fatcats in power time to "synchronize their stories." We don't know yet whether there are any. One of those children was my 6 yr. old nephew you fucking bastard. The child is dead. I am sick of the bullshit about this. I paid to be here, almost a year. To see how this is being discussed, with heads up asses, and blowing smoke, I say FUCK YOU. Your title, JanJan is "Truth Seeker"....do you not want to know the REAL truth about what happened in Sandy Hook Elementary School the morning of December 14, 2012? No one is purposefully trying to be insensitive. There is so much discrepancy between the reports on this incident, it is unbelievable. If your claim is true, that you lost your child nephew, my condolences to you. Can you verify if your nephew's parents positively identified his body in person, or by photograph? The mods can check my last name (unusual) and my address and know I and this is for real. Was he positively id'ed? - Fuck yes. This incident and how it is being treated on this site has made me disgusted with it. Beyond disgusted. Don't ever talk about the kids' deaths being faked. That is karma you do not want to contend with. You insensitive bastard. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29971742 12/16/2012 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's another question. According to the police and media, this kid was wearing a mask, full body armor, camo, and NOW he was also carrying a Bushmaster .223 rifle with at least 6 - 30 round magazines, which he could not have possibly concealed. Quoting: Saddletramp Just saw an interview with the parents of a boy, last name Licata, and of course, the parents are speaking for the child . . . When the reported asked what happened, they said their son said that the teacher took them into a room and the shooter came in through the door and stood there - with NO FACIAL EXPRESSION! But the shooter was allegedly wearing a mask? Wow. The boy says he and the others ran past him and out of the building . . . and the father said that his son "had the presence of mind to hold the door open" for a couple of the others kids . . . huh? keep i mind to check for a video. i also had one report,no source right now, where the shooter rumbled a door knob and asked clamly to open. i think something went wrong and the two guys who were seen and capured outside took over control killing the patsy and maybe the kids. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29971742 12/16/2012 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Skeptic the First Why are you "sure" of this when it never happens? Time after time--going back to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, or Pearl Harbor, or even the sinking of the Maine--the pertinent questions are never answered, because the people in power don't want us to know the truth. ... What families? We have not yet seen any evidence that anyone died at all. Only one parent, Robbie Parker, has referred to the loss of a child at all. Indeed, one of the most suspicious aspects of this incident is that we have not seen any grieving parents. ... The issue is not so much the media per se, but the glaring holes in the Official Story. We most certainly do not want to give the fatcats in power time to "synchronize their stories." ... We don't know yet whether there are any. One of those children was my 6 yr. old nephew you fucking bastard. The child is dead. I am sick of the bullshit about this. I paid to be here, almost a year. To see how this is being discussed, with heads up asses, and blowing smoke, I say FUCK YOU. Your title, JanJan is "Truth Seeker"....do you not want to know the REAL truth about what happened in Sandy Hook Elementary School the morning of December 14, 2012? No one is purposefully trying to be insensitive. There is so much discrepancy between the reports on this incident, it is unbelievable. If your claim is true, that you lost your child nephew, my condolences to you. Can you verify if your nephew's parents positively identified his body in person, or by photograph? The mods can check my last name (unusual) and my address and know I and this is for real. Was he positively id'ed? - Fuck yes. This incident and how it is being treated on this site has made me disgusted with it. Beyond disgusted. Don't ever talk about the kids' deaths being faked. That is karma you do not want to contend with. You insensitive bastard. well they fake this stuff. so there is all reason to think about this here too. this site is a conspiracy page and not a page to mourn. and we found already enough evidence for 2-3 shooters and a conspiracy going on. we cant wait weeks. this site starts with speculations right after it happened..you should know that. if thats too much for you and you want to mourn you should be with the family and not on glp. otherwisr please support us with as many infos as possible about details.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15751650 12/16/2012 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a journalist student, I am seriously flabbergasted. Last summer I interned at a MAJOR news station here in Toronto (biggest city in Canada) and I can tell you the NUMBER ONE rule that I was taught was verify EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. It's important to be "breaking news" but only so far... You can report what you see at a scene but unless you are getting info that can be verified, you just DO NOT REPORT IT. So to see MAJOR news outlets making such a mess of this...it is just mindblowing. I mean, I understand that things happen REALLY FAST in a situation like this, and it's normal for mistakes to happen, but not THIS many? It's as if they were all just making things up on the go. And MAJOR news outlets, not all interns! It's just so so weird. For them to just report all these different facts and then change it all. Everything from the amount of shooters, to it being Randy and then Adam and then a man in the woods and his mom being a teacher and then not being a teacher... there is definitely something really wrong here. This is a complete journalistic fail. It's so obvious that something is being covered up that it's just mindblowing that other people do not see this??? |
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| Debauchery User ID: 15455863 12/16/2012 01:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's one, it was earlier said that 28 were dead.....NOW? It's 26. How does that happen?? Quoting: ajk 26 at the school..2 more outside and away from the school. That is how. 28 people died in total..2 of which were nowhere near the school. Understand? And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24547360 12/16/2012 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's important to be "breaking news" but only so far... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15751650 You can report what you see at a scene but unless you are getting info that can be verified, you just DO NOT REPORT IT. So to see MAJOR news outlets making such a mess of this...it is just mindblowing. I mean, I understand that things happen REALLY FAST in a situation like this, and it's normal for mistakes to happen, but not THIS many? It's as if they were all just making things up on the go. And MAJOR news outlets, not all interns! there is definitely something really wrong here. This is a complete journalistic fail. It's so obvious that something is being covered up that it's just mindblowing that other people do not see this??? I've lost a lot of respect for CNN wit this and with its Hurricane Sandy reporting. Stick with the Associated Press. It still is more strict about verification. Many others are trying to be FIRST AND FAST and they are throwing out unverified info ... It is a journalistic fail. |
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| Indysmindy User ID: 17399035 12/16/2012 02:04 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The New York Times reported that Principal Dawn Hochsprung buzzed Lanza into the school - bypassing the newly-installed security system - recognizing him as the son of Nancy Lanza. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8226394 Where did the NYT get this information, and if true, at what point did the Adam Lanza don the mask that he was wearing when found dead? second time that something doesnt add up with her. Do you have a link? could you add it in this thread too? Thread: (sandy hook) Newton bee inconsistency? Dead Principal told them.. She recognized him even though he was wearing body armor and a face mask? The glass was also shot out according to reports. He should have also has at least three guns and a few hundred bullets on him. Very good point! **The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners: Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8625642 12/16/2012 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OH WAIT...Now they're saying the Bushmaster .223 was found with Ryan...no wait, Adam Lanza in the School... Quoting: Saddletramp And MORE weapons were recoverd...somewhere, but they won't say where... Thread: The Story In Connecticut Changes For The Umpteenth Time...Again And where is the pristine passport? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26519409 12/16/2012 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20266151 go tell her family it was faked!! Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on." [link to newtownbee.com] what? The dead principal talked to the Bee? I hope someone explains that. |
| itsamadmadworld User ID: 29993976 12/16/2012 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mods can check my last name (unusual) and my address and know I and this is for real. Quoting: JanJan Was he positively id'ed? - Fuck yes. This incident and how it is being treated on this site has made me disgusted with it. Beyond disgusted. Don't ever talk about the kids' deaths being faked. That is karma you do not want to contend with. You insensitive bastard. As the other poster said, if your claims are true, I'm sure everyone here is sorry for your loss. You have to understand that there are a number of different opinions here about what might have happened . . . everything from being totally faked to there being multiple people involved in the shooting to the poor children being taken out of the school and killed elsewhere and on and on the scenarios go. Your anger is based on the fact that some are saying it was all faked - understandable if you're who you say you are, but posters here can't verify you're who you claim or that your claims are real. You contend the child was identified . . . by the parents? How do you know this? Were you there? Have the parents been allowed to spend time with their son? The media reported just awhile ago that parents were only shown facial photos of their children for identification. Try to ignore the posts here that disgust you . . . and if you are part of the boy's family, you should want to get the truth about what happened, and thus far, the story and reporting of the entire event has been muddied by an unbelievable number of contradictions. |
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| itsamadmadworld User ID: 29993976 12/16/2012 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20266151 go tell her family it was faked!! Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on." [link to newtownbee.com] what? The dead principal talked to the Bee? I hope someone explains that. WTH???!!! |
| Indysmindy User ID: 17399035 12/16/2012 02:09 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a journalist student, I am seriously flabbergasted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15751650 Last summer I interned at a MAJOR news station here in Toronto (biggest city in Canada) and I can tell you the NUMBER ONE rule that I was taught was verify EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. It's important to be "breaking news" but only so far... You can report what you see at a scene but unless you are getting info that can be verified, you just DO NOT REPORT IT. So to see MAJOR news outlets making such a mess of this...it is just mindblowing. I mean, I understand that things happen REALLY FAST in a situation like this, and it's normal for mistakes to happen, but not THIS many? It's as if they were all just making things up on the go. And MAJOR news outlets, not all interns! It's just so so weird. For them to just report all these different facts and then change it all. Everything from the amount of shooters, to it being Randy and then Adam and then a man in the woods and his mom being a teacher and then not being a teacher... there is definitely something really wrong here. This is a complete journalistic fail. It's so obvious that something is being covered up that it's just mindblowing that other people do not see this??? Oh but you must remember this is U.S. media - who totally lied to us umpteen times about Benghazi ? We have to do our own investigations here on GLP for sure! **The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners: Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29888516 12/16/2012 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently it is wrong to question things because it might upset the loved ones of the victims. How fucking ridiculous. If one of my family members had died, the last thing I would do is buy the official story. I'd question every last detail. As for being offended at the speculation that all of it was faked - that just comes with the territory around here. |
| Indysmindy User ID: 17399035 12/16/2012 02:10 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20266151 go tell her family it was faked!! Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on." [link to newtownbee.com] what? The dead principal talked to the Bee? I hope someone explains that. WTH???!!! The dead Principal talked to the Bee and also recognized Adam with his mask on and full gear - let him in through security **The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners: Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. |
| itsamadmadworld User ID: 29993976 12/16/2012 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20266151 go tell her family it was faked!! Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on." [link to newtownbee.com] what? The dead principal talked to the Bee? I hope someone explains that. WTH???!!! Same paper also has a story about the medical examiner: "I believe everybody was hit (by gunfire) more than once," he said. He "believes"? Wouldn't he know for sure? And this: "This still is an active case," according to state police spokesman Lieutenant J. Paul Vance. He said that no official identification of the gunman has yet been made. The shooter reportedly killed himself after shooting the 26 people at the school. NO official identification of shooter? |
| Indysmindy User ID: 17399035 12/16/2012 02:12 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently it is wrong to question things because it might upset the loved ones of the victims. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29888516 How fucking ridiculous. If one of my family members had died, the last thing I would do is buy the official story. I'd question every last detail. As for being offended at the speculation that all of it was faked - that just comes with the territory around here. Benghazi - families that lost their loved ones are still waiting for explanations! **The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners: Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29655041 12/16/2012 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I, for one, will not allow the captured MSM to twist this story and obfuscate facts, and I will press the local media here in Southwestern CT to pursue all aspects of this case. Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer The major points, as I see it, are: 1. Why did the Mother have all of those weapons? Were they registered? Why were they not locked safely away? 2. What mental diagnoses has suspect, Adam Lanza been given throughout his lifetime, especially during his adult lifetime (the past two years)? 3. What prescription pharmaceuticals was Adam Lanza taking as of December 14, 2012? What prescription pharmaceuticals was Adam Lanza prescribed throughout his lifetime? 4. Who was Adam Lanza's primary care physician? Psychiatrist? Psychologist? 5. Why was the AR-15 reported to have been recovered from the suspect's vehicle, and the next day, the CT State Medical Examiner declares that all 26 victims inside the school received more than one wound from a rifle, at point blank range? 6. Is there any closed circuit videotape recordings from inside and/or outside the school from the morning of December 14, 2012? 7. What is the status of the man who was wearing a dark colored jacket with camouflage pants, who was handcuffed and placed into a police cruiser, after being spotted in the woods outside the school. Please add to this list! Members, friends, brothers, sisters: GLP'ple from Connecticut & Westchester County NY...Let us organize to break the TRUTH about Newtown Massace story to the PEOPLE !!! This is the moment we have waited for. Let us organize intelligently and swiftly. Let us continue to gather information, and let us get coverage on these major discrepancies to the people of the world. Let us organize evidence demonstrations, perhaps. We can meet on Newtown Green or New Haven Green, and we can bring laptop computers to show the discrepancies in evidence. We can invite local media, national media, captured-main-stream-media, "alternative" media, etc. We can continue to press the Newtown police, CT State Troopers, and FBI for the truth. The more "evidence" they share, the more likely we are able to discern any potential "abnormalities." This is just one idea, or avenue, that we can pursue. Please, add suggestions. I never heard anyone use the word "rifle," we knew about two glocks and a Bush almost right off the bat. Medical Coroner said each person was shot from 2-11 times. So not sure what you're talking about. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24547360 12/16/2012 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: New Age Messiah Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on." [link to newtownbee.com] what? The dead principal talked to the Bee? I hope someone explains that. WTH???!!! Small town papers are notorious for being filled with errors. I don't understand why publications never fix their online versions when they have glaring mistakes. It's almost as if they don't realize they have an online audience. Same paper also has a story about the medical examiner: "I believe everybody was hit (by gunfire) more than once," he said. He "believes"? Wouldn't he know for sure? And this: "This still is an active case," according to state police spokesman Lieutenant J. Paul Vance. He said that no official identification of the gunman has yet been made. The shooter reportedly killed himself after shooting the 26 people at the school. NO official identification of shooter? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8625642 12/16/2012 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20266151 go tell her family it was faked!! Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on." [link to newtownbee.com] what? The dead principal talked to the Bee? I hope someone explains that. This is fucked up! I just showed it to my wife and she said the media was getting everything wrong, and I said, the local paper THOUGHT it was talking to the god damn principal but it wasn't? WTF? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8625642 12/16/2012 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently it is wrong to question things because it might upset the loved ones of the victims. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29888516 How fucking ridiculous. If one of my family members had died, the last thing I would do is buy the official story. I'd question every last detail. As for being offended at the speculation that all of it was faked - that just comes with the territory around here. Yeah, I would think a family member, if there were surfing a conspiracy site in which they were a member and new the drill, would understand the probing that goes on here. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21528557 12/16/2012 02:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a secret agency recruiting,, lonely and distubed young men..He talks them into a specail plan. or operation.to make them feel important.and part of something big and good. this agent is not includeing all the details.. he coaches them.. intimadates them.. then forces them to go on the mission with him.. the specail agent kills everyone.. and then kills the student he recruited and was made by force to go along with him... leaving nothing but the weapons. he escapes ..makeing it look like a suicide by a lonewofe. this explains wearing the mask part to.. and explains no video footage.. not a metion.. of cameras because ..it will show more than one shooter! and the real killer. a special shooter even military background type marksman-cia agent??? TheEnd.. Quoting: zetuff64 Well done, sir. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29864025 12/16/2012 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What families? We have not yet seen any evidence that anyone died at all. Only one parent, Robbie Parker, has referred to the loss of a child at all. Indeed, one of the most suspicious aspects of this incident is that we have not seen any grieving parents. Quoting: Skeptic the First Skeptic: You said it! Has ANYONE made a statement or provided proof that the children were killed in the school . . . now you wonder who was killed, was anyone killed, who are all these people? Did you see Robbie Parker's statement where he referred to "my agency"? That's just not a phrase I've heard someone use. And was that his wife at the end of his statement? She was talking with the older couple and she was all smiles . . . wth? How could ANYONE even vaguely smile amidst all that, but especially if she is the mother, omg. Agency...isn't that the name for the CIA? I don't see how so many could be so dead and not tons injured. Did any of you see the Sorcha Faal take on this on the www.whatdoesitmean.com site? [link to www.whatdoesitmean.com] Connecticut Massacre Blamed On Son Of Top CIA Analyst If this guy's Mom didn't work at this school or hadn't for years, then how could he have such a beef with the kindergarten teachers????Wouldn't he have gone for middle school or when he quit school to home school. Hopefully this is all psyops for gun control and they didn't even kill any people at all. |
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| KwittyKwitty Red Tailed Hawk Medicine Maker User ID: 29880094 12/16/2012 02:34 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20266151 go tell her family it was faked!! Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on." [link to newtownbee.com] Another discrepancy. How the heck did she talk with The Bee if she had been fatally wounded as the gunman entered, and was dead? "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25715861 12/16/2012 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking sick of these coincidences. Found this on a CNN article. "Nancy Lanza was a gun collector and recently showed off a newly bought rifle to fellow Newtown resident Dan Holmeswho owns a landscaping business in the town." Out of all the last names, in all the world. Had to be that one? |