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The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)

 
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Why did the parents identify their children through PHOTOGRAPHS only?

I don't care what the trauma, most parents would want to view the child's body in person even if in a limited degree.

Kids die every day from trauma such as car accidents, and parents still make an attempt to identify their children in person.

There are ways to arrange the viewing of the body so as to minimize the appearance of injuries...just as they would have done in the photographs they showed to the parents.

That just struck me as very weird.
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MSNBC making a point that many staffers live in that neighborhood, but "poo-Poo'ing" when un-prepared guests mention the connection to general electric, which fully funds that network.
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That's a biggie right there.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Analysis and videos here [link to wtfrly.com]

Shotgun in the car, not rifle

 Quoting: WTFRLY



How about this...

the helicopter just happened to be flying over head at that exact moment....because any normal person would know that is a shotgun.


Because they want you to believe the non existant AR15 is in the school laying in the hallway...right where the shooters didn't use it...
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MSNBC making a point that many staffers live in that neighborhood, but "poo-Poo'ing" when un-prepared guests mention the connection to general electric, which fully funds that network.
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That's a biggie right there.
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It's a city of 27,000 people....I'll tell you right now....nobody knows everyone in that town...impossible...

Show me your hands if you know 27,000 people...
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USA is facing economic crisis.I feel this could be an inside job to divert attention from anti-obama campaign.
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he's pissed because RICE can't be confirmed...
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Here's another question. According to the police and media, this kid was wearing a mask, full body armor, camo, and NOW he was also carrying a Bushmaster .223 rifle with at least 6 - 30 round magazines, which he could not have possibly concealed.

He NOW also supposedly had an altercation with the School Staff the day before.

Yet someone in the Front Office, who could plainly see him, buzzed him into the school?!?!?

Really...really...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Do you have any idea how heavy 2 fully loaded hand guns and 3 loaded rifles and at leats 6- 30 round magazines weights?

My guess is atleast 50 pounds...Plus mask and body armour.

What was the kid a professional juggler???
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Very good point. These things are heavy, and cumbersome.
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Strenghtens the "multiple shooters" case. Indeed.rockon
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There is a secret agency recruiting,, lonely and distubed young men..He talks them into a specail plan. or operation.to make them feel important.and part of something big and good. this agent is not includeing all the details.. he coaches them.. intimadates them.. then forces them to go on the mission with him.. the specail agent kills everyone.. and then kills the student he recruited and was made by force to go along with him... leaving nothing but the weapons. he escapes ..makeing it look like a suicide by a lonewofe. this explains wearing the mask part to.. and explains no video footage.. not a metion.. of cameras because ..it will show more than one shooter! and the real killer. a special shooter even military background type marksman-cia agent??? TheEnd..
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Pretty much sums up my line of thought. Very similar of what the jhadists do using young men. And quite possibly the same people behind all these events.

They use sex, drugs and for some video games, possibly mind control.

Without a doubt this and the other recent shootings have been planned to take guns and take down the internet, while the cry of bulling echos in the background to remove freedom of speech.

Evil sometimes wears a suit and tie and strolls the halls of government.
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Each victim was shot 3 to 11 times according to the coroner. How does a 90lb weakling shoot almost 180 bullets in 180 seconds with deadly 100% accuracy???
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I'm ignorant about these things, but wondering about those kids who practice with videos...they get pretty expert at shooting targets when all they do is practice.
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Yeah, but video type games aren't the same. Real guns and real ammo is heavy, and bulky.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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I posted this on another thread, so I just did a copy paste to put it out there again because it does stand out to me.




One thing I found very confusing and odd after the fact was this:

Among the incorrect information the media was letting out was that the shooter was Ryan. Of course this is because Adam had his brothers ID. Okay, so they were going off the information on the drivers license they had. Ryan is 24.


But while still telling us Ryan was the shooter, they were also saying that he was believed to be the father of a student there. The were specifically then adding that they were not sure if that info was true becaus 20 was young to be the father of even a kindergarten student.

So if they were going off the DL info, why didn't they assume he was 24? That is what the ID would indicate.

They knew it was a 20 year old shooter. How is that possible during the time they were still believing the shooter was Ryan?
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Parasites are using only 3 things to achive their goals:
1 - compassion, 2 - fear and 3 - faith.
In this case: compassion - with murdered kids, fear - that if you are armed you are evil, faith - that they are telling you truth and keeping you safe.
This is applicable for everything they did, they are doing and they will do. Just example - vaccines:
compassion with suffering people, fear - if I will refuse vaccination, I will suffer, and faith that vaccines
really works. etc. It is applicable for everything.

To achieve breakdown of human society they need grand show full of compassion, full of fear and full of faith.
Theirs time is running out, they are doing mistakes and you are finding this facts.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

In the vid at the link, what is the child's father talking about when he says "my agency ...?"
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Apparently it is wrong to question things because it might upset the loved ones of the victims.

How fucking ridiculous.

If one of my family members had died, the last thing I would do is buy the official story. I'd question every last detail.

As for being offended at the speculation that all of it was faked - that just comes with the territory around here.
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Yeah, I would think a family member, if there were surfing a conspiracy site in which they were a member and new the drill, would understand the probing that goes on here.
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Apparently it's more important for this "family member" to try and derail this thread by making posters feel guilty. Me, I'd want the truth.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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The New York Times reported that Principal Dawn Hochsprung buzzed Lanza into the school - bypassing the newly-installed security system - recognizing him as the son of Nancy Lanza.

Where did the NYT get this information, and if true, at what point did the Adam Lanza don the mask that he was wearing when found dead?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8226394


Additionally, how did she recognize him as Nancy Lanza's son, when according to reports, noone at the school was familiar with Nancy as she had no ties to the school?
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Good one!
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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63 page thread. The more information from various sources the better:

[link to www.ar15.com]
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MSNBC making a point that many staffers live in that neighborhood, but "poo-Poo'ing" when un-prepared guests mention the connection to general electric, which fully funds that network.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22879656


That's a biggie right there.
 Quoting: INK3


It's a city of 27,000 people....I'll tell you right now....nobody knows everyone in that town...impossible...

Show me your hands if you know 27,000 people...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208



I'll explain something: In my county of 70,000 people, someone knows someone who knows someone. Even if there is an event outside our neighborhood community social structure, we can get information through the local "grapevine."

People in the community where the shooting took place know whether the children reported dead are "real" children of
"real" families in the community.

A very interesting comment is that "MSNBC making a point that many staffers live in that neighborhood."
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Ive been reading and going through this at the end of page 4 went back to a video and noticed some comments so ill post sorry if all ready posted. The video name Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters (A CLOSE LOOK). The video Link [link to www.youtube.com] and now the comment.



Bret Weller 6 minutes ago

The two guys running in the woods are heros. They were the Janitors running down the hall making sure all the doors were locked before running out the back door to save themselves... You people disgust me with sick logic and flawed minds.

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I posted this on another thread, so I just did a copy paste to put it out there again because it does stand out to me.




One thing I found very confusing and odd after the fact was this:

Among the incorrect information the media was letting out was that the shooter was Ryan. Of course this is because Adam had his brothers ID. Okay, so they were going off the information on the drivers license they had. Ryan is 24.


But while still telling us Ryan was the shooter, they were also saying that he was believed to be the father of a student there. The were specifically then adding that they were not sure if that info was true becaus 20 was young to be the father of even a kindergarten student.

So if they were going off the DL info, why didn't they assume he was 24? That is what the ID would indicate.

They knew it was a 20 year old shooter. How is that possible during the time they were still believing the shooter was Ryan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199093


Good catch! I remember hearing several times that morning that police believed the killer (age 20), had a child in kindergarten in the school.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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[link to www.youtube.com] started posting an hour ago on diff youtube videos.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

In the vid at the link, what is the child's father talking about when he says "my agency ...?"
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I have a thread about it. Can someone with a brain look it up without being emotional and unreasonable and tell me what you think? Please do NOT listen to the words, just the behavior of this man. I might be wrong.... I'm GLP brainwashEd already :)) Thread: Why this father who just lost his girl is smiling? (Sandy shooting)
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The New York Times reported that Principal Dawn Hochsprung buzzed Lanza into the school - bypassing the newly-installed security system - recognizing him as the son of Nancy Lanza.

Where did the NYT get this information, and if true, at what point did the Adam Lanza don the mask that he was wearing when found dead?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8226394


Additionally, how did she recognize him as Nancy Lanza's son, when according to reports, noone at the school was familiar with Nancy as she had no ties to the school?
 Quoting: KwittyKwitty


Good one!
 Quoting: INK3


Great point.

Also now the media is speculating that the added security at the school may have been due to previous problems with Lanza.


So that would mean that she buzzed in the person that the system was there to prevent an altercation with.


But let's not even consider that possibility for a moment. How do you recognize someone as the son of a person you don't even know exists?
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63 page thread. The more information from various sources the better:

[link to www.ar15.com]
 Quoting: Archangel_Gabriel

From the above link on page 63 that I just read:
Originally Posted By HiCal888:
"3 shooters? That would explain why the ME says some were shot with .223s but the supposed AR was found in the trunk of a car.

"It that police tape is real.

That blows me away."

[link to youtu.be]

Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters (A CLOSE LOOK)
[link to www.youtube.com]

Published on Dec 15, 2012

LINKS IN ORDER OR PRESENTATION:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I'd download those in case they are taken down.
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17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children--difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?


 Quoting: Skeptic the First


This one is a big red flag.

Add to this reports of "children with spattered blood on their clothes" being led out of school. These children were not injured? Or they somehow were close enough to a child that got killed to be sprayed with their blood... yet didn't get shot as well???


...........
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Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman.

go tell her family it was faked!!
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OH, REALLY???

THEN HOW DID SHE TELL THE NEWTOWN BEE NEWSPAPER REPORTER THE QUOTE IN THIS STORY...

IF SHE WAS ALREADY DEAD????


[link to newtownbee.com]
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Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman.

go tell her family it was faked!!
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OH, REALLY???

THEN HOW DID SHE TELL THE NEWTOWN BEE NEWSPAPER REPORTER THE QUOTE IN THIS STORY...

IF SHE WAS ALREADY DEAD????


[link to newtownbee.com]
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Wow....
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In a town where everyone knows everybody....

[link to news.yahoo.com]

Sandy Hook shooter a mystery to neighbors and former classmates


Alrighty then....He either lived in that town and went to school there or he didn't...which is it?
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The New York Times reported that Principal Dawn Hochsprung buzzed Lanza into the school - bypassing the newly-installed security system - recognizing him as the son of Nancy Lanza.

Where did the NYT get this information, and if true, at what point did the Adam Lanza don the mask that he was wearing when found dead?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8226394


Additionally, how did she recognize him as Nancy Lanza's son, when according to reports, noone at the school was familiar with Nancy as she had no ties to the school?
 Quoting: KwittyKwitty


Good one!
 Quoting: INK3


Great point.

Also now the media is speculating that the added security at the school may have been due to previous problems with Lanza.


So that would mean that she buzzed in the person that the system was there to prevent an altercation with.


But let's not even consider that possibility for a moment. How do you recognize someone as the son of a person you don't even know exists?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199093


How indeed?
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Dawn Hochsprung was the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Police say she was killed when she attempted to disarm the gunman.

go tell her family it was faked!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20266151



OH, REALLY???

THEN HOW DID SHE TELL THE NEWTOWN BEE NEWSPAPER REPORTER THE QUOTE IN THIS STORY...

IF SHE WAS ALREADY DEAD????


[link to newtownbee.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27531391


WTH?
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Shall we wait untill they are at least put in the ground before we start dishonoring them by making up fantasys in our feeble paraniod little minds.
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Perhaps you belong at a different forum? We seek truth, we don't need advice on honor and behavior. This story stinks, some of want to find out why.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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In a town where everyone knows everybody....

[link to news.yahoo.com]

Sandy Hook shooter a mystery to neighbors and former classmates


Alrighty then....He either lived in that town and went to school there or he didn't...which is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


Apparently it's both. American media is so powerful, paradox is child's play to them.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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anyone ntice the size of that house that the mother was killed in?
thats a big house for just 2 people to live in, and after a divorce you would think she would have sold the home for money and moved into a smaller home? maybe its nothing but seriously that house has to be at least 4 bedrooms

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