The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)

Thread: EMILIE PARKER in the obama photo-op...or just same dress?? WTF!

Last Edited by 'Lil Lee Harvey on 12/17/2012 05:57 PM

OK, this was in the Examiner:

Then, during the interview, something strange occurred as
Monsignor Weiss began to laugh and giggle on the phone while
discussing this grave situation. He was asked how things happened
at his school.

“Monsignor Weiss: "We were located...we were notified through the
alarm system that's in our town through the school system,"

Monsignor Weiss began. "Our children were actually at mass so we
kept them in church for quite a while and then sent them over to
our hall where they are still in one group.

So now...we are just awaiting...word from the officials on what we
should do from here. I'm more concerned about the...the...
(laughter)"

MSNBC: "Monsignor..."

Monsignor Weiss: "(laughter)"

MSNBC: "Monsignor...?"

Monsignor Weiss: "...(laughter)...more concerned about the parents
waiting to find out what happened to their children (stifling
laughter)."

As of now, there is no knowledge of what exactly he was laughing
about, but after listening to the audio a few times, it is evident
that it was indeed laughter. Monsignor Weiss probably wasn't
laughing at the shooting, but it still was one of the most
inappropriate and awkward times for it to happen.

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[link to www.examiner.com]

It, like the original Newtonbee article has been pulled.

yeah its a new law, the NDAA or something like that they passed here in america

Now that is investigating.
Thanks AnonCow

-directed to individuals who shill disinfo as fact, aka fraud: as in fraudulent activity on social network sites.

would that be GLP? Or them? Im pretty sure the MSM didnt go to GLP to get the latest info.

he's just basically reminding everyone that it is against
the law to impersonate an officer of the government.

Can't embed these---but they raised a few questions

Man in camouflage pants grabbed by police – Was suspected of being second shooter?
deadlinelive.info/2012/12/14/ct-shooting-man-in-camouflage-pa​nts-grabbed-by-police-was-suspected-of-being-second-shooter/
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Witness Describes Apparent Accomplice Arrested From Woods: Newtown Conn.
youtube.com/watch?v=zY9hOQ2h6m8

Police Dog Apprehending Man In Woods Behind School:
youtube.com/watch?v=HvyyaJpD4j4

Spokesman’s BS Sounding Story re: The Suspected Accomplice:
youtube.com/watch?v=T4pb8-Nb4p4

Shooter “Forced Way In”, But Police Can’t Say How:
youtube.com/watch?v=Csqxrk7ohj8

CTSP Spokesman Denies AP Reports Of 3 Long Guns Found Inside:
youtube.com/watch?v=bTY8T2zLuV8

Police Change Story, Found 2 More Handguns Near The Shooter
youtube.com/watch?v=C9rPeTCPIa8

Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters (A CLOSE LOOK)
youtube.com/watch?v=j_fI0hm1dqY

Thanks!

good! stay on this. the more i saw of it the more i thought it was a set up or false flag some hideous mkultra event. they don't mind a bit to slay children, they do it all the time in the mideast.

wow, he seemed really concerned about it. protests too much, not to mention sounding like a nazi ready to jump in this thread and arrest many of us. that's fkd. they act really guilty with just that one piece.

[link to imageshack.us]

The Sandy Hook HOAX!

Click the Good Morning America (GMA) yahoo news link, and watch the 3:00 minute video.

The school nurse distinctly and clearly states she was inside the school for four hours. She then says it was at least 1:15 p.m. when she was discovered by police, and escorted out of the school (told to shut her eyes, of course.)

But, what about the police saying they had checked every single square inch of the school, to make sure there were no other threats, immediately upon arriving at the scene?!?!

Have you seen the video of the first responders? There had to be at least 100 local police, state troopers, firemen, emergency responders (medical) and FBI....maybe more than 200! But, they missed two grown women, hiding in a closet? Why were these two women hiding for four hours? Did they not hear the voices of the dozens and dozens of authorities in there? The gunshots lasted mere minutes. Why would they remain inside the closet?
This is the newest discrepancy, in a long list of major discrepancies! But, this one could be THE item which can be used to convince others that there is something MAJORLY WRONG with the story the captured main stream media is telling.

HERE is the contradictory evidence:

[link to newtown.patch.com]

Around the middle of the article, you can find these few paragraphs of pertinent information:

"This is an active ongoing investigation" Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance said at an afternoon press conference Friday, updating the assembled media about the state of the investigation into the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Vance confirmed the death toll: 20 children, 6 adults, including the shooter, and one adult victim at a "secondary scene" in Connecticut.

But in response to multiple questions from press, Vance said at one point: "There are a lot of things we cannot confirm."

He did offer the beginning of a basic timeline, saying the first call came in at around 9:30 a.m.

"Officers immediately entered the school to search for students, faculty and staff and remove them," he said. "They did search every nook and cranny...Those who were rescued were taken to a staging area."




Now, compare this quote given by the police spokesperson, with the statement given by the school nurse.

Either Police Lt. Vance is lying, or the authorities who searched "every nook and cranny" are inept. Or, the nurse is not telling the truth. These are the ONLY three options here. This is the most damning evidence yet.

And, this is my point: We must use the evidence that the mainstream media provides against the mainstream media. I will pursue answers in this case, using this as Evidence #1.

Notice how the entire article never once gives the name of the secretary. Very odd, almost insulting.

Unless this alleged secretary was Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary who took the day off?

[link to www.nypost.com]
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Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, said she called in sick today - something she rarely does.

"Of all days," she said.
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MAN, cant watch. its blocked. pull the copyrighted stuff(music?..)

Thread: ANY TRUTH TO TODAY's Dr. Oz rumor?

AC1461405 has posted the following info:

Apparently, Dr. Oz interviewed someone from Sandy Hook. And this person claimed he was part of a drill, and Dr. Oz cut him off.

Anyone see this?

Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 12/17/2012 09:05 PM

yeah good stuff. MAybe the nuns where the two arrested guys or the killers? lol
2 nuns hours inside the building.

2 suspects on the run:



From: Thread: Sandy Hook -> Cover up is official.

[link to godlikeproductions.com]

well wouldnt be surprised..

also the laughing guy:
[link to godlikeproductions.com]

Its adrill with actors: Thread: Another pair of actors in Sandy hoax exposed. 100% BUSTED!

but not sure about dead children..


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Are you claiming that any of the wakes are open-casket? Or do you plan to open the lid and sneak a peek? Otherwise, how do you know who or what is in the casket?

Precisely who in the school called 911, and exactly what did they say? Voices should be recognizable.

And in a small town, why would police wait 20 minutes before responding to a report of gunfire in a school?

[link to www.cnn.com]
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At the police station, dispatchers began to take calls from inside the school. Authorities say the first emergency call about the shooting came in at "approximately" 9:30 a.m.

"Sandy Hook school. Caller is indicating she thinks someone is shooting in the building," a dispatcher told fire and medical personnel, according to 911 tapes.

Police and other first responders arrived on scene about 20 minutes after the first calls.
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Donuts?

Are you kidding me? This can not be possible there is no way unless the 911 dispatcher did not desiminate this info that it would take police 20 minutes to respond to shots fired at an elementary school in their town. No WAY! CAN NOT HAPPEN! There is nothing that would prevent most police officers from getting there and in the building as fast as possible. This is completely and in every way implausible.

I have been looking now for hours on the MSNBC live show on December 14, 2012 for the recording of the affiliate reporter in Connecticut.

She had blond hair and the clip was shortly after she interviewed a mother and daughter, but she was talking about the current status of the incident and then walked around an ambulance that was parked there. In the background there was another blond with a black jacket on, I believe, that ran into a nun. At the time when I was watching, I thought that's a strange way to greet a nun because they seemed like more than friends. Then in the background they walked away happily, holding hands. They repeated this several times on MSNBC that morning and I went on the internet archives to try to find it and there were missing videos with the audio re-matched and the video portion of the clip missing. When I saw it initially I thought, "that's strange I should record this," but did not unfortunately.

Here is a link to the archives. [link to archive.org]

It starts in the 8 am PST hour. I went through them for hours now and some are missing in the

[link to archive.org]

See 7 minutes in.

It is strange I wish I could have recorded the "nun's" reunion with her "friend" - strange. If you find it please reply to my post.

Remember, too, that all of the supposed bodies were to be left in their dead positions on scene until...yesterday. Autopsies in these types of cases are mandatory - and they don't perform autopsies on the scene.

The bodies would have left yesterday for the medical examiner for forensic autopsies. These autopsies wouldn't all be done in less than 24 hours for funerals to be arranged and started today.

It's a made for TV national security drill drama.

New Info

Sandy Massacre, a ritual sacrifice.... the shocking truth revealed?

Thread: Sandy Masacare, a ritual sacrifice...... the shocking truth revealed?

Is this the shocking truth?

We have a church with a alter,
north of is is the a place of learning (school) with a court yard
we have hills rivers woods surrounding
& multiple suspects
we have a wood cutter collecting wood
Adam = Adam & Eve = Cain & Able = Abraham & Issac

Lanza =
1. spear (arma) (arrojadiza); lance (en justas, torneos)
2. shaft (de carruaje)

lanza [lahn'-thah]
noun
1. Lance, spear, javelin. (f)
2. Pole of a coach or wagon (carro). (f)
3. Pikeman, soldier armed with a pike. (f)

A punta de lanza -> strenuously, with all one's might

so the assault rile is a spear or lance (each was shot 3-11 times)

i.e. a slaughter or sacrifice

remember the 22 children slashed stabbed in China on the same day


The Binding of Isaac (in Hebrew the Akedát Yitz&ák, also known simply as "The Binding" ), the Akedah or Aqedah,[1][2] or in Arabic as the Dhabih or "Slaughter"),

is a story from the Hebrew Bible in which God asks Abraham to sacrifice his son, Isaac, on Mount Moriah. The account states that Abraham "bound Isaac his son"[3] before placing him on the altar, resulting in the popular name for the incident.

The Book of Genesis does not tell the age of Isaac at the time. While it is often presented that Isaac was a small child, verse 6 of Chapter 22 indicates that Isaac was at least grown enough to walk alongside Abraham up the mountain carrying the load of wood that his father had gathered (22:6).

Bishop Ussher's chronology places Isaac at about 20 years of age.



The story is quite short and is found in Genesis 4: 1-7 as follows:

“And Adam knew Eve his wife. And she conceived and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from Jehovah. And she bore again, his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. And in the end of days, it happened, Cain brought to Jehovah an offering of the fruit of the ground.
And Abel also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat of it.

he Genesis author introduces both brothers by their occupations: "Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a tiller of the ground" (4:2).

When it comes time to give gifts to the Lord, each brother delivers the products of his labor--Cain "an offering of the fruit of the ground" (4:3) and Abel "the firstlings of his flock, their fat portions" (4:4).

But politeness aside, the Lord only looks with favor on one of these gifts: "And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, but for Cain and his offering he had no regard" (4:4-5). Now, God does not punish Cain for his "regardless" offering, but Cain is angry nonetheless, and this anger--most believe--drives him to murder his brother, alone in the field.

But why does God prefer "firstlings" to "fruit"? It's a real mystery, but a consensus interpretation suggests that the Lord's choice is related to the early Israelites' vocation.


The "fat" of an animal signifies sin. Isaiah penned down the Word of God to His people:

Neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities. (Isaiah 43:24)

God wanted people to come and bring their sins to Him, as sin is the problem with man. Jesus, the true "Lamb of God", also invites His people to come to Him with their sins, as only when we give our sins over to Him we can go free. He said:

I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Luke 5:32)

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. (Matthew 11:28)

Abel slew his sacrifice and also offered the "fat" of the animal to the Lord, as he hated sin, and wanted to always live a live free from it. And when an animal is sacrificed its blood is shed.

That blood which Abel shed of that innocent animal was a display of his faith in the Redeemer to come, and His saving blood! The Scripture declares:

Without shedding of blood is no remission. (Hebrews 9:22


Genesis Chapter 22

1 And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

3 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son, and clave the wood for the burnt offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him.

4 Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off.

5 And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.

6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.

7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?

8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

9 And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood.

10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.

11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.

12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.

13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.

14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.

15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,

16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.


The shooting was 148 days since Aurora shootings


Psalm 148

1 Praise the Lord.[a]

Praise the Lord from the heavens;
praise him in the heights above.
2 Praise him, all his angels;
praise him, all his heavenly hosts.
3 Praise him, sun and moon;
praise him, all you shining stars.
4 Praise him, you highest heavens
and you waters above the skies.

5 Let them praise the name of the Lord,
for at his command they were created,
6 and he established them for ever and ever—
he issued a decree that will never pass away.

7 Praise the Lord from the earth,
you great sea creatures and all ocean depths,
8 lightning and hail, snow and clouds,
stormy winds that do his bidding,
9 you mountains and all hills,
fruit trees and all cedars,
10 wild animals and all cattle,
small creatures and flying birds,
11 kings of the earth and all nations,
you princes and all rulers on earth,
12 young men and women,
old men and children.

13 Let them praise the name of the Lord,
for his name alone is exalted;
his splendor is above the earth and the heavens.
14 And he has raised up for his people a horn,
the praise of all his faithful servants,
of Israel, the people close to his heart.

Praise the Lord.



Holocaust (sacrifice)

A holocaust is a religious animal sacrifice that is completely consumed by fire.

When the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek, as the Septuagint, the translators used the Greek term to translate the "burnt offering" in Ancient Israel.[3][4] A "burnt offering" (Hebrew: עלה‎, `olah - from the verb "to cause to ascend," hence "burn") is a type of Biblical sacrifice, specifically an animal sacrifice in which the entire sacrifice is completely burnt, consumed totally by fire. The term "burnt offering" derives from the Septuagint translation, itself deriving from the Biblical phrase "an offering made by fire", which occurs in the description (Leviticus 1) of the offering.[5]


having first been checked to ensure they were free from disease and unblemished (a requirement of the sacrifice), were brought to the north side of the altar, and killed by either the offerer, or a priest.

offerings could be killed anywhere within the Temple Courtyard, not only on the north side of the altar

Moloch (representing Semitic מלך m-l-, a Semitic root meaning "king") – also rendered as Molech, Molekh, Molok, Molek, Molock, Moloc, Melech, Milcom or Molcom

The Hebrew letters מלך (mlk) usually stand for melek 'king' (Proto-Northwest Semitic malku) but when vocalized as mōlek in Masoretic Hebrew text, they have been traditionally understood as a proper name (molokh) (Proto-Northwest Semitic Mulku) in the corresponding Greek renderings in the Septuagint translation, in Aquila, and in the Middle Eastern Targum. The form usually appears in the compound lmlk. The Hebrew preposition l- means "to", but it can often mean "for" or "as a(n)". Accordingly one can translate lmlk as "to Moloch" or "for Moloch" or "as a Moloch", or "to the Moloch" or "for the Moloch" or "as the Moloch", whatever a "Moloch" or "the Moloch" might be. We also once find hmlk 'the Moloch' standing by itself.

Because there is no difference between mlk 'king' and mlk 'moloch' in unpointed text, interpreters sometimes suggest molek should be understood in certain places where the Masoretic text is vocalized as melek, and vice versa.

Moloch has been traditionally interpreted as the name of a god, possibly a god titled the king, but purposely mispronounced as Molek instead of Melek using the vowels of Hebrew bosheth "shame".[2]

The word here translated literally as 'seed' very often means offspring. The forms containing mlk have been left untranslated. The reader may substitute either "to Moloch" or "as a molk".

According to Biblical texts, the laws given to Moses by God expressly forbade the Israelites to do what was done in Egypt or in Canaan.

Leviticus 18:21:

‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.

Leviticus 20:2–5:

Again, you shall say to the Sons of Israel: Whoever he be of the Sons of Israel or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that gives any of his seed l'Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man and will cut him off from among his people; because he has given of his seed l'Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do at all hide their eyes from that man, when he gives of his seed l'Molech, and do not kill him, then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go astray after him, whoring l'Molech from among the people.

2 Kings 23:10 (on King Josiah's reform):

And he defiled the Tophet, which is in the valley of Ben-hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter pass through the fire l'Molech.

Jeremiah 32:35:

And they built the high places of the Ba‘al, which are in the valley of Ben-hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire l'Molech; which I did not command them, nor did it come into my mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.


In Allen Ginsberg's poem "Howl" (1955), Moloch is used as a metaphor for capitalism and industrial civilization, and for America, more specifically. The word is repeated many times throughout Part II of the poem, and begins (as an exclamation of "Moloch!") in all but the first and last five stanzas of the section.

Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Children screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men weeping in the parks!

Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Moloch! Moloch the heavy judger of men!

Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgment! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned governments!

Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb!

Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose factories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose smoke-stacks and antennae crown the cities!

Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the Mind!

...and remember the reference to ancient sacrifice in Chinese that showed up on the hacked Newtonbee website....

"started shooting multiple shows" what does this means. Shows??? Is this a typo? Shouldn't it be rounds.

The kids names, my children thought they were weird, until I saw the list of names here and OK first name Charottes web came to mind( not being mean), then the other kids names also reminded me of children movies or characters.

Isn't it interesting that the School's name is SANDY hook. ie. What just happened in New York and who/what created Hurricane Sandy if it wasn't HAARP. ...