VICTIMS RIP PAGE CREATED DEC 10

Why does the clickable link at the very top of the Iglesias page (cached) go to the RIP Sandy Hook Elementary School children page?

ok well since someone was able to take one of the memorial pages and cache it in google and find out that it was formally this [link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

some iglasias fan page which was turned into the new memorial page...

how come when I try to do it with [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] page nothing comes up absolutely nothing meaning that this page was nothing, there would of been a cache to correct? I mean if it was changed?

I used this.

[link to www.akshatblog.com]

I didn't witness a lot of murders but I'm sure they happened. I know it's tough to believe in a perfect world/country such as this, I mean there aren't psychos wondering around, rapists, serial killers, mass murderers, disturbed individuals with mental problems, on powerful medications and so on. I didn't realize I had to see shit in order for it to be true. Is that how it works now?

It's idiotic to think an entire community and a school full of children, hundreds of them with hundreds of parents are just lying and going along with a fake story. It wouldn't fly. Too many people involved, way too many. Families all across the country will come forward and speak of their dead relatives, still it wont be good enough for you people.

There's absolutely no reason to think anyone would fabricate the murder of 26 children. They're dead, how many parents need to come forward before you people get it?

Do you need to see their little bodies in person, torn apart and riddled with bullets to be sure? Autopsy photos? It's not going to happen. People are murdered EVERY DAY, there's no need to fabricate shit. If anything is being made up here it's about who did it, why it happened and who may have been pulling the strings.

But hey..why don't you drive there and find out for yourself, or at the very least contact the parents of the fake dead children.

see thats the thing, people are saying that this RIP Victoria page was previously something else and the URL was changed, BUT the iglesias page WAS a fan paged then changed to the sandy hook page.

trying to show that it could be done BUT the problem is that the R.I.P Victoria page isn't coming up with any older cache pages.

truthwillsetyoufreeagain:

Just as a matter of debate, HOW do you know that - how do you know what she or anyone really did?

I believe this is the teacher one of the fathers was speaking about - (as he spoke for his son who was not on camera) - and HIS story was that she and the kids were in a room, the shooter came in, shot her, and the kids ran out past him . . . AND the father says the boy told him that the shooter HAD NO FACIAL EXPRESSION . . . but all reports say he was wearing a mask!

The story is so muddied, so convoluted, it's impossible for even the most intelligent and discerning people to make any definitive statements . . . other than that it's muddied and convoluted.

True, I don't 100% know that's what she did. But in reading about her she seems like a pretty decent person. If someone did set that page up in tribute to her, there are no tributes. Just people arguing about when the page was put up and what the motive was. Maybe that was the intent, for the person to have his five minutes, even anonymously.

For those that think there is something suspicious about that page, who exactly do you think put it up in advance of the killing spree? And why?

But you didn't address the conflicting info about the teacher and the boy saying the shooter had no facial expression . . . I make those points to show the incredible contradictions floating around.

As for the FB page, I'm not sure what that's all about or what the implication is . . . if it was a psyop, someone would have been stupid to create that before the event date. Right now, it appears there's a lot of protesting going on over there about conspiracy theorists.

If the URL can be changed and apparently some have proven it can, perhaps it would help if the person who created the page would come forward and explain what their intent was when they created it on the 10th.

I think your anger and emotions are convoluting your ability to logically discuss a topic. You need to calm down and be nice.

First of all, I have not formed an opinion about what happened . . . I'm open-minded to know that ANYTHING is possible, plausible, likely in these times.

If you were a person who believes in rational skepticism, you wouldn't believe just anything you're told, especially by the media and government. You say you didn't witness a lot of murders but you're sure they happened . . . how?

Just saying that some things can be proven, others cannot.

I won't address the histrionics in your post - but you need to stop and think about WHY those parents were denied the right to see their own children and why they were shown photos to ID them.

If you have children, would YOU tolerate that? I sure as hell would not. Most parents would not - they'd be screaming to the rafters, tearing through blockades, doing whatever they could to get to their babies.

So, as of right now, as far as we all know, there is NO proof that those children are dead. They likely are indeed deceased, but there are numerous unanswered questions, countless contradictions, and a story too muddied to decipher. Sorry you refuse to recognize and acknowledge the truths of all the deceit.

I have logically discussed the situation.

I've made my thoughts on it very clear. I've stated repeatedly I don't believe the official story but that I do believe 28 people are dead. What is your beef with that?

What you're allowed to believe what you want but I'm wrong for believing the way I do? That's the gist of this conversation between the two of us. You initiated this little back and forth debate. Never quite satisfied with my response.

Belief..do you know what it means? I believe the father that came forward and spoke of his dead daughter. I believe the mother of the teacher that came forward. I believe their statements. I believe we will all be seeing photos and videos of 20+ caskets in the very near future.

We aren't going to agree on this. Even when you see the caskets I'm sure you'll deny the obvious.

And I also think a good part of why the story is so muddled is due to the lame stream media. In their rush for ratings, instead of confirming what they are putting on the air (as in the old days), they just throw anything on the air, whether it be rumor, supposition, something to suit their agenda, and present it as fact.

Bleh, I ignore posters who are so utterly illogical and refuse to employ intelligent reason and healthy skepticism.

Run along now and believe what you will.

And I also think a good part of why the story is so muddled is due to the lame stream media. In their rush for ratings, instead of confirming what they are putting on the air (as in the old days), they just throw anything on the air, whether it be rumor, supposition, something to suit their agenda, and present it as fact.

Bleh, I ignore posters who are so utterly illogical and refuse to employ intelligent reason and healthy skepticism.

Run along now and believe what you will.

You too.

Oh good comeback. Playground much?

Your anger and hate-filled character come through so strongly on this forum (and in your anonymous karma voting). Very sad.

Now please, move on to others who might want to engage you in the types of domineering debate you so obviously crave.

Okay, I just looked on facebook, for all the staff that were killed. None of them had a facebook page, until after the shootings, then someone else apparently made pages in memory for them. I find it odd that none any of these staff members did not have a facebook page. I realized not everyone has one, but most teachers I know, have their own page.

Plus, looking on at the pages that were created for these people, there are a lot "comments," but in reading them (and no, I didn't go through all of them, but quite a few) I did not see any from family members or family. I just lost two very close friends recently, and the day of, and the days following their deaths, their family members and relatives posted on their profiles. It seems to be a way for family and friends to say their goodbyes.

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it might not have indexed into google yet. takes a while sometimes.

If this was her personal page and someone just changed the name after her death, it appears she wasn't active at all since creating it.

Very odd.

And this photo uploaded is not a family or personal photo, it is a crop from ABC news as if you look at the photo.
So no personal family member created this page or it would have been a family or personalized photo, not a news channels release!
Fishy

Maybe he was in love with Victoria and she didn't return his feelings so he went on a rampage, and the facebook page was made by him on the 10th??