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Message Subject VICTIMS RIP PAGE CREATED DEC 10
Poster Handle Debauchery
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I've said in other threads that I'm on the fence about the events that took place, I am reading about and going over everything, I haven't come to a conclusion about the shooter or shooters, why it happened, how it happened, who was involved or anything else.

The only thing I will say I'm 100% certain of is that 28 people were murdered.

 Quoting: Debauchery


Why are you 100% certain?

Upon what do you base such certainty?

I simply cannot understand how anyone can make such definitive statements - unless they were there, personally witnessing the event - and I asumme you were not there.
 Quoting: itsamadmadworld


I didn't witness a lot of murders but I'm sure they happened. I know it's tough to believe in a perfect world/country such as this, I mean there aren't psychos wondering around, rapists, serial killers, mass murderers, disturbed individuals with mental problems, on powerful medications and so on. I didn't realize I had to see shit in order for it to be true. Is that how it works now?

It's idiotic to think an entire community and a school full of children, hundreds of them with hundreds of parents are just lying and going along with a fake story. It wouldn't fly. Too many people involved, way too many. Families all across the country will come forward and speak of their dead relatives, still it wont be good enough for you people.

There's absolutely no reason to think anyone would fabricate the murder of 26 children. They're dead, how many parents need to come forward before you people get it?

Do you need to see their little bodies in person, torn apart and riddled with bullets to be sure? Autopsy photos? It's not going to happen. People are murdered EVERY DAY, there's no need to fabricate shit. If anything is being made up here it's about who did it, why it happened and who may have been pulling the strings.

But hey..why don't you drive there and find out for yourself, or at the very least contact the parents of the fake dead children.
 Quoting: Debauchery


I think your anger and emotions are convoluting your ability to logically discuss a topic. You need to calm down and be nice.

First of all, I have not formed an opinion about what happened . . . I'm open-minded to know that ANYTHING is possible, plausible, likely in these times.

If you were a person who believes in rational skepticism, you wouldn't believe just anything you're told, especially by the media and government. You say you didn't witness a lot of murders but you're sure they happened . . . how?

Just saying that some things can be proven, others cannot.

I won't address the histrionics in your post - but you need to stop and think about WHY those parents were denied the right to see their own children and why they were shown photos to ID them.

If you have children, would YOU tolerate that? I sure as hell would not. Most parents would not - they'd be screaming to the rafters, tearing through blockades, doing whatever they could to get to their babies.

So, as of right now, as far as we all know, there is NO proof that those children are dead. They likely are indeed deceased, but there are numerous unanswered questions, countless contradictions, and a story too muddied to decipher. Sorry you refuse to recognize and acknowledge the truths of all the deceit.
 Quoting: itsamadmadworld


I have logically discussed the situation.

I've made my thoughts on it very clear. I've stated repeatedly I don't believe the official story but that I do believe 28 people are dead. What is your beef with that?

What you're allowed to believe what you want but I'm wrong for believing the way I do? That's the gist of this conversation between the two of us. You initiated this little back and forth debate. Never quite satisfied with my response.

Belief..do you know what it means? I believe the father that came forward and spoke of his dead daughter. I believe the mother of the teacher that came forward. I believe their statements. I believe we will all be seeing photos and videos of 20+ caskets in the very near future.

We aren't going to agree on this. Even when you see the caskets I'm sure you'll deny the obvious.
 
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