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What Creates a Sociopath?

 
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What Creates a Sane Person?
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If I ever find one, I'll ask.
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A Facebook friend posted that the commonality between ALL the school shooters was they were all on antidepressants.

He had no link, but it makes you wonder ... I recently found out that antidepressants are made from fluoride. Brain chemistry? Combined with perhaps a parent(s) who smoked crack or snorted coke or did meth or something while pregnant/just prior to conception?

Fluoride in pharmaceuticals:

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A diet rich in high-fructose corn syrup
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Prayer-

God in heaven you know.

I have anger. I have rage.
I know when I was a child I was not loved like children should be loved, because I had a parent that did not know how to love, themselves, they/he/she could not give me what he/she/they didn't have themselves. I choose to absolve them of their guilt, though there is no excuse to hurt a child, and they should answer to all crimes, I absolve the child in them who suffered as I did, and will not hold them in bitter judgement, but I hand them over to you.

God in heaven you know,

I have anger. I have rage.

I cannot fix what has been broken all these many years, but with your help I can begin anew today with your help. Today I can come to terms, that I need your help and I chose to ask it from you every day. I wanted all the things that others seemed to have, good parents, good families, good lives. Because I didn't have that it makes me feel it was because I was not good enough, worth enough, valued enough to be loved like everyone else. In my heart I know that cannot be true, in my head I struggle with that lie everyday. Help me overcome that lie. That it will not swallow me up, take me over, drag me down and cause me to die, dry up, cave in, or slip away in disparagement.

Lord, I have great regret for loss of life, that of my own and what should have been and could have been from the family I came from, and the family I have made for my self, now. (Express thankfulness for what you do have that is good.) Help me every day do something that will build my future and not tear it down. Help me forgive others, my self, and even you Lord, help me ever day.

I confess to you I have failed in my life, Lord, you know. Help me over come disappointments, help me live the mundane, knowing I don't need a crises to feel like I am alive. Help me be convinced in my heart that I am loved by you. Help me learn in my mind the same. I ask that your Holy Spirit possess me, and all dark energy must go and be pushed forever out of my life in the name of your blessed son Christ the Messiah whom you gave, that whosoever puts their trust in him will have everlasting life. John 3:16

thank you, Lord. Amen

Jeremiah 29:13
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future ... call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. When you seek me you will find me when you call upon me with all your hear.
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A combination of genetic predisposition to mental illness combined with abusive, neglectful or absent parenting.
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that's a myth.
there is no statistical evidence to support that psychopaths who become gravely disturbed come from abusive and/or neglectful parents.
 Quoting: Salt


I thought it might be close to a pretty good idea.
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Prayer-

God in heaven you know.

I have anger. I have rage.
I know when I was a child I was not loved like children should be loved, because I had a parent that did not know how to love, themselves, they/he/she could not give me what he/she/they didn't have themselves. I choose to absolve them of their guilt, though there is no excuse to hurt a child, and they should answer to all crimes, I absolve the child in them who suffered as I did, and will not hold them in bitter judgement, but I hand them over to you.

God in heaven you know,

I have anger. I have rage.

I cannot fix what has been broken all these many years, but with your help I can begin anew today with your help. Today I can come to terms, that I need your help and I chose to ask it from you every day. I wanted all the things that others seemed to have, good parents, good families, good lives. Because I didn't have that it makes me feel it was because I was not good enough, worth enough, valued enough to be loved like everyone else. In my heart I know that cannot be true, in my head I struggle with that lie everyday. Help me overcome that lie. That it will not swallow me up, take me over, drag me down and cause me to die, dry up, cave in, or slip away in disparagement.

Lord, I have great regret for loss of life, that of my own and what should have been and could have been from the family I came from, and the family I have made for my self, now. (Express thankfulness for what you do have that is good.) Help me every day do something that will build my future and not tear it down. Help me forgive others, my self, and even you Lord, help me ever day.

I confess to you I have failed in my life, Lord, you know. Help me over come disappointments, help me live the mundane, knowing I don't need a crises to feel like I am alive. Help me be convinced in my heart that I am loved by you. Help me learn in my mind the same. I ask that your Holy Spirit possess me, and all dark energy must go and be pushed forever out of my life in the name of your blessed son Christ the Messiah whom you gave, that whosoever puts their trust in him will have everlasting life. John 3:16

thank you, Lord. Amen

Jeremiah 29:13
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future ... call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. When you seek me you will find me when you call upon me with all your hear.

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Big time Blessings to you.
Very nice.
Thank you for sharing. :)
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A combination of genetic predisposition to mental illness combined with abusive, neglectful or absent parenting.
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


that's a myth.
there is no statistical evidence to support that psychopaths who become gravely disturbed come from abusive and/or neglectful parents.
 Quoting: Salt


I thought it might be close to a pretty good idea.
 Quoting: WindyMind


What do I know, I only majored in psych? Lol. It's OK, everyone's entitled to an opinion. After all, statistics are merely that.

hf
Occam's Razor, morans!
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Let me preface this. My hypothesis does not excuse adam lanza from what he did. As is in life, no matter what the circumstance you are responsible for your own actions. Even if you are broken, abused, etc... Taking innocent lives just proves you were a weak person.

I've noticed a link between these sociopaths that snap and progressivism. Or more importantly the progressive doctine being taught in the education system. Most of us swallow it and integrate it into our world view, even though it is very anti-human, anti-existance, anti-thought. A smaller percentage of us recognize the fraud and fake it to get through the system and on with our lives, forever scarred but not broken by this evil doctrine. And then there are the outliers like Adam Lanza who for whatever reason could not shield himself or submit to the indoctrination. A person totally out of step with society. His logic and instinct would tell him something is wrong and something is broken but maybe his ability to adapt was lacking So instead his daily existance was hell. His gut and brain constantly agonizing over the logical inconsistencies surround the human experience (thanks to progressives) and he simply snapped. What these people tend to have in common is high intelligence, social awkwardsness, some aspect of loss in their past. I bet that describes a lot of people on this board and bet you all have founds ways to adapt and protect yourself whereas these people dont.

And when I mention progressives, I include both sides of the coin. Don't you find it odd that our education system constantly emphasizes thinking of others first and being selfless when the most selfish thing you can do is expect others to take care of you.
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I have always believed and always will because I have seen too many confirmations.
Two different but inter related scenarios going on in society.
One , a true murderer in total control
Two, a patsy, weak minded, unstable.

However, we only look at the behavior,
which on certain levels is good but
the smart thing to do would be to think in terms of prevention
and figure out how to keep the unstable more stable.
I would think we would begin to realize it is in all in our
interests to try a more creative approach.
I am in no way saying that one should not be responsible
for their behavior or choices
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I have a VERY close family member that has been diagnosed as a sociopath.

I have spent the last 12 years researching all that I can find.

They do know they are different, but do not care.
Empathy is not in their thought process.

They have no true emotions except anger. They like to feel in control. They abuse drugs, alcohol, sex, etc., to "FEEL" something. Not all of them, but most do.

They lie, steal, some are abusive/violent, not all, but do not care what others think or feel. They cannot help this.

The bigger question is how do those that have a family member as such, COPE. Has taken me years to try to hide possessions, money, learn not to accuse or argue since it is a complete waste of time.

I just give GOD the power to control MY thinking and love him/her regardless.
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Most of the time I care about everyone. At times I even go out of my way to care for others. Even at that at times I always feel different but try to ignore those feelings.
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It doesn't help much when your mother tells you that you were an accident and not planned on and has a hysterectomy after giving birth to you.
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It doesn't help much when your mother tells you that you were an accident and not planned on and has a hysterectomy after giving birth to you.
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This is so something not to tell a developing human, I'm sorry that happened to you.
This is exactly why so many stand up comics have material. They ease their pain and others while making light of actual real life experiences, for them their laughter eases the pain.
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I have a VERY close family member that has been diagnosed as a sociopath.

I have spent the last 12 years researching all that I can find.

They do know they are different, but do not care.
Empathy is not in their thought process.

They have no true emotions except anger. They like to feel in control. They abuse drugs, alcohol, sex, etc., to "FEEL" something. Not all of them, but most do.

They lie, steal, some are abusive/violent, not all, but do not care what others think or feel. They cannot help this.

The bigger question is how do those that have a family member as such, COPE. Has taken me years to try to hide possessions, money, learn not to accuse or argue since it is a complete waste of time.

I just give GOD the power to control MY thinking and love him/her regardless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14091728


Most of the time I care about everyone. At times I even go out of my way to care for others. Even at that at times I always feel different but try to ignore those feelings.
 Quoting: Milo Jeeder 28700278


I always felt "different" also, because my parents fought all the time when I was growing up. Nothing physical, but a lot of verbal abuse. I hated it! My mom always put me down..never had a nice thing to say about me. I was never hugged, never kissed by my parents.

When I would visit friends, I noticed how nice the members of the family treated each other....that's why I felt "different." But, the longer I lived, I noticed that we don't know what goes on behind closed doors.

I told this to my children when they were young adults because they always thought all their friends had great marriages and families. I told them, "Wait and see." Once they became close to their friends, the friends would reveal how unhappy they were because of the arguments with their spouses or familes. One said she has a horrible mother who has been cruel to her all her life. These are all middle and upper class families, so socio-economics have nothing to do with it.

As I said....we all put on a happy face for others, and we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. I've seen it so much.

You sound like a good person. Try not to feel different. I got over that feeling a long time ago. I am a very caring person....an RN.

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GODLESSNESS


Putting yourself before the MOST HIGH GOD...

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Atheism has to be a factor.

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rubbish
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All the college degrees in the world never make the pain go away. It is like having an open wound that never heals. The best you can do is ignore all of the things that feel like salt being poured directly in it.
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My real father spent most of his life in prison for killing some guy in a bar fight. He did try to call me once or twice but he was so drunk I refused the call. He's dead now.
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The last six women I dated all asked me to marry them I even bought one a ring. But all the relationships ended shortly after the question. I never said yes I always thought the guy was supposed to ask and that something was wrong with them. At some point I realized it was more than likely me, simply afraid of commitment, or realizing perhaps they were all better off without me in their life. I mean with the divorce rates always increasing I figured I had better choose carefully and that I wasn't alone.
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This is very politically incorrect but I think the upsurge in autism is a result of women waiting too long to have kids. Instead of having them in their early 20s when their eggs are still at their prime, you have all these career women who don't get married until their mid-30s or even later now. Notice that these are always the type that have autistic kids.
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My real father spent most of his life in prison for killing some guy in a bar fight. He did try to call me once or twice but he was so drunk I refused the call. He's dead now.
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Watch Dr. Phil or Investigation Discovery (ID) on TV, which is usually made up of "60 Minutes" and "48 Hours" stories. And then again, the internet is full of stories of doctors, lawyers, and people from all walks of life who killed others and are now in prison. They weren't in bar fights....they chose to kill, usually because of greed. Most are because they wanted to get rid of the wife or husband. And they all had kids who are now left without a mom or dad. Sad.

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Atheism has to be a factor.

angryface
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Bingo.

And a lower developed frontal lobe.
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How about showing that countries with a higher "atheism" rates have actually higher rates of sociopaths?
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omagad you are willing for real facts on glp !!!
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The last six women I dated all asked me to marry them I even bought one a ring. But all the relationships ended shortly after the question. I never said yes I always thought the guy was supposed to ask and that something was wrong with them. At some point I realized it was more than likely me, simply afraid of commitment, or realizing perhaps they were all better off without me in their life. I mean with the divorce rates always increasing I figured I had better choose carefully and that I wasn't alone.
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You're not alone.
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This is very politically incorrect but I think the upsurge in autism is a result of women waiting too long to have kids. Instead of having them in their early 20s when their eggs are still at their prime, you have all these career women who don't get married until their mid-30s or even later now. Notice that these are always the type that have autistic kids.
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I just read that a recent study has shown that the older the father, not the mother, the higher the incident of autism.
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A combination of genetic predisposition to mental illness combined with abusive, neglectful or absent parenting.
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


that's a myth.
there is no statistical evidence to support that psychopaths who become gravely disturbed come from abusive and/or neglectful parents.
 Quoting: Salt


I thought it might be close to a pretty good idea.
 Quoting: WindyMind


What do I know, I only majored in psych? Lol. It's OK, everyone's entitled to an opinion. After all, statistics are merely that.

hf
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


when did you graduate?
because i am a psych major, just finished two years, and that is what they are shoving down our throats today - with case studies and nationwide statistical data.

as a matter of fact, it is pretty split down the middle:
those from good, stable homes and those from neglectful abusive homes have equal statistics on violent and disturbed pathology.

look at dahmer...
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The last six women I dated all asked me to marry them I even bought one a ring. But all the relationships ended shortly after the question. I never said yes I always thought the guy was supposed to ask and that something was wrong with them. At some point I realized it was more than likely me, simply afraid of commitment, or realizing perhaps they were all better off without me in their life. I mean with the divorce rates always increasing I figured I had better choose carefully and that I wasn't alone.
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You don't have to let your past dictate your future...

Your Father obviously had problems, learn now to forgive him... Your forgiveness will free yourself from that past and free your Dad's spirit from being in bondage to his own guilt.

Let what you know is right come forward and live in the light of GOD that will free you from the darkness....

I don't know what you believe...However GOD is in your midst, if you make a choice to reach out to him....
Susie

If you don't stand for your faith, then you won't stand at all....
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maybe this corrupt world creates sociopaths.

I dont accept these amok-bastards, they arent soziopaths. they are ill bastards.
But sociopaths maybe see the world like it really is, a big lie.
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It's the just think positive ignore negative religion you all practice.

The positive environment those at the top strive to sustain comes at the expense of all below or the negative.

it works great until all the negative the positive create can't be ignored anymore.

The mass shooting is just a manifestation or negative effect that can't be ignored.

Then you all search for excuses as to why you are not responsible for the negative consequences of choosing to embrace ignorance as the path to salvation.
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The COD black ops games spring to mind..that and the sudden lack of twinkies.
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I think I have bad DNA. When I die my bloodline will be severed. I'm not exactly sure how much poison this removes from the planet though its probably the lesser of all the evils.
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This system that is creates it. It is mostly run by Sociopaths, thus intent on spawning more of the same. If it is not stopped, one day, all be will Sociopaths.

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