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What Creates a Sociopath?

 
Anonymous Coward
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I think I have bad DNA. When I die my bloodline will be severed. I'm not exactly sure how much poison this removes from the planet though its probably the lesser of all the evils.
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You are not the problem, but the victim of a sick system, we all are.
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12/16/2012 05:55 PM
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Let me preface this. My hypothesis does not excuse adam lanza from what he did. As is in life, no matter what the circumstance you are responsible for your own actions. Even if you are broken, abused, etc... Taking innocent lives just proves you were a weak person.

I've noticed a link between these sociopaths that snap and progressivism. Or more importantly the progressive doctine being taught in the education system. Most of us swallow it and integrate it into our world view, even though it is very anti-human, anti-existance, anti-thought. A smaller percentage of us recognize the fraud and fake it to get through the system and on with our lives, forever scarred but not broken by this evil doctrine. And then there are the outliers like Adam Lanza who for whatever reason could not shield himself or submit to the indoctrination. A person totally out of step with society. His logic and instinct would tell him something is wrong and something is broken but maybe his ability to adapt was lacking So instead his daily existance was hell. His gut and brain constantly agonizing over the logical inconsistencies surround the human experience (thanks to progressives) and he simply snapped. What these people tend to have in common is high intelligence, social awkwardsness, some aspect of loss in their past. I bet that describes a lot of people on this board and bet you all have founds ways to adapt and protect yourself whereas these people dont.

And when I mention progressives, I include both sides of the coin. Don't you find it odd that our education system constantly emphasizes thinking of others first and being selfless when the most selfish thing you can do is expect others to take care of you.
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very good.


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I think I have bad DNA. When I die my bloodline will be severed. I'm not exactly sure how much poison this removes from the planet though its probably the lesser of all the evils.
 Quoting: Milo Jeeder 28700278


You are not the problem, but the victim of a sick system, we all are.
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One day victims will stop being victims, and will put an end to this sick system.
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GODLESSNESS


Putting yourself before the MOST HIGH GOD...

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yep.


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12/16/2012 06:03 PM
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Atheism has to be a factor.

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rubbish
claptrap
bullshit
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yes it is athiests who are at fault---they have zero grace--are foul mouthed punks for the most part.

Jesus christ saves not the government and education system.


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Bullying, ridiculing, intimidation, isolating, shunning the individual with the weakness, handicap whatever you want to call it. There is only love and hatred. Love breeds love. And lack of love breeds everything else. It takes a village to raise a kid. Not just parents.
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Atheism has to be a factor.

angryface
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24179936


Bingo.

And a lower developed frontal lobe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 539546


How about showing that countries with a higher "atheism" rates have actually higher rates of sociopaths?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


omagad you are willing for real facts on glp !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26027784


That wouldn't make sense at all. The atheism rates among sociopaths should then be measured.
But I just assume that neglecting yourself and others of a soul or universal morality makes you more likely to behave as a sociopath.
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may GOD bless the members of these killed and save their souls!
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12/16/2012 06:20 PM
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that's a myth.
there is no statistical evidence to support that psychopaths who become gravely disturbed come from abusive and/or neglectful parents.
 Quoting: Salt


I thought it might be close to a pretty good idea.
 Quoting: WindyMind


What do I know, I only majored in psych? Lol. It's OK, everyone's entitled to an opinion. After all, statistics are merely that.

hf
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


when did you graduate?
because i am a psych major, just finished two years, and that is what they are shoving down our throats today - with case studies and nationwide statistical data.

as a matter of fact, it is pretty split down the middle:
those from good, stable homes and those from neglectful abusive homes have equal statistics on violent and disturbed pathology.

look at dahmer...
 Quoting: Salt


2004. Same crap - case studies / stats. It would be interesting to find what else they are now teaching that is different.
Occam's Razor, morans!
Parabola

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Capitalism is a big contributor.
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What creates an American sociopath?? That's easy!

Idol1 + agent + bonghit + alien03 + sideways + pope2 + ouncsam + damned2 = angry

Got it?
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Milo Jeeder (OP)
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Can you imagine the pain and rage a person must feel to shoot their mother in the face multiple times and then drive to a school and shoot 20 first grade kids and 6 teachers multiple times each before turning the weapon on yourself?
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Prayer-

God in heaven you know.

I have anger. I have rage.
I know when I was a child I was not loved like children should be loved, because I had a parent that did not know how to love, themselves, they/he/she could not give me what he/she/they didn't have themselves. I choose to absolve them of their guilt, though there is no excuse to hurt a child, and they should answer to all crimes, I absolve the child in them who suffered as I did, and will not hold them in bitter judgement, but I hand them over to you.

God in heaven you know,

I have anger. I have rage.

I cannot fix what has been broken all these many years, but with your help I can begin anew today with your help. Today I can come to terms, that I need your help and I chose to ask it from you every day. I wanted all the things that others seemed to have, good parents, good families, good lives. Because I didn't have that it makes me feel it was because I was not good enough, worth enough, valued enough to be loved like everyone else. In my heart I know that cannot be true, in my head I struggle with that lie everyday. Help me overcome that lie. That it will not swallow me up, take me over, drag me down and cause me to die, dry up, cave in, or slip away in disparagement.

Lord, I have great regret for loss of life, that of my own and what should have been and could have been from the family I came from, and the family I have made for my self, now. (Express thankfulness for what you do have that is good.) Help me every day do something that will build my future and not tear it down. Help me forgive others, my self, and even you Lord, help me ever day.

I confess to you I have failed in my life, Lord, you know. Help me over come disappointments, help me live the mundane, knowing I don't need a crises to feel like I am alive. Help me be convinced in my heart that I am loved by you. Help me learn in my mind the same. I ask that your Holy Spirit possess me, and all dark energy must go and be pushed forever out of my life in the name of your blessed son Christ the Messiah whom you gave, that whosoever puts their trust in him will have everlasting life. John 3:16

thank you, Lord. Amen

Jeremiah 29:13
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future ... call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. When you seek me you will find me when you call upon me with all your hear.

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That is so very beautiful! Thank you so much for sharing and caring.

Many Blessings and much Love to you!
hf
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Capitalism.
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society
Alexander

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Aspergers certainly seems to contribute to the end product.

spock
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Having a child with Aspergers and a nephew with Aspergers - I tend to disagree. Both were born within months of each other and both got a bad batch of vaccine shots. Now tell me. What causes Aspergers?

In addition, while doing some research on this the data it indicated that this condition has to do with the underdevelopment parts of the brain. People with Asperger's syndrome have some traits of autism. For example, they may have poor social skills, prefer routine, and not like change. Aspergers syndrome is a lifelong condition, but symptoms tend to improve over time. Adults with this condition can learn to understand their own strengths and weaknesses. And they can improve their social skills. Remember, Steve Jobs had Aspergers.

Although a lot of the older research doesn't know what causes Aspergers, I'm convinced it is from Thimerosal a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines. Thimerosal is a neurotoxin.

In addition, having done research on psychopaths here is a bit of reviewed various articles and studies.

An Underlying Cause for Psychopathic Behavior?
May 27, 2010 — Psychopaths are known to be characterized by callousness, diminished capacity for remorse, and lack of empathy. However, the exact cause of these personality traits is an area of scientific debate. The results of a new study, reported in the May 2010 issue of Elsevier's Cortex, show striking similarities between the mental impairments observed in psychopaths and those seen in patients with frontal lobe damage. [link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Amongst the first signs that someone is a psychopath is cruelty to animals in childhood but there are other warning signs, such as violence to other people, but to individuals in general, which often appears to be either motiveless, or with little motive behind it, along with damage to and/or theft of property. These types of (cruelty) behaviors give pleasure to a psychopath.


According to MedlinePlus, a service of the U.S. National Library of Medicine, a sociopath, otherwise known as someone with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), displays long-term problems with behaviors---often criminal in nature---that "manipulate, exploit or violate the rights of others." Other factors include genetics, brain differences, environmental and attachment disorder. Dr. Martha Stout, in her book, "The Sociopath Next Door," explains that a genetic predisposition for sociopathy may already present at birth for some people.

Read more: [link to www.livestrong.com]


People are complicated and live in a complicated society. It often takes years and years of study to understand the why of some things but one thing for sure - what we don't know far out-weighs what we do know.

Last Edited by Alexander on 12/16/2012 07:05 PM
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In addition to living with a sociopath for many years, not a spouse either, I also learned that some type of sexual abuse that is suppressed can lead to sociopathic behaviors.

I do know that my sociopathic relative was experimenting at a very early age- everything from drugs to sex.

She/He was brought up in a average income family, educated parents, your "model" citizens, taught values/integrity.

Another interesting tidbit that can predict a potential sociopath is late bed wetting. Don't laugh please. It was definitely an issue with this sociopath. Also, stealing as a very young child, being punished, and not learning from punishment, but repeating behaviors over and over.

What I mean is; This person was taught right from wrong. If punished appropriately for misdeeds, this person never stopped doing it again and again.

I hope this helps some of you understand. It is extremely heartwrenching to come to the conclusion that nothing you do matters, except to "live with it" as best you can.
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"society" creates sociopaths....duh?
hiding
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^ indeed it does, through society the deeds are done.

+1
Alexander

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12/16/2012 07:13 PM

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Unfortunately, we also have a sociopathic relative and much of what you identified is the same. They don't change.

Society had nothing to do with it. This is a personality disorder that manifested around the age of puberty.

Last Edited by Alexander on 12/16/2012 07:16 PM
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Frontal lobe damage can be witnessed in almost all inmates on death row... at least here in AZ.
I had the opportunity to meet the PYS DOC who is the one guy they all have to see once they have been incarcerated.
I found this information VERY telling. He had concluded that this damage more often than not, was coming from violence in the home.
 Quoting: Abalone~


I have to agree with this one. My dad is in his 80s and had an extremely violent childhood. He's been nuts every since, though he made a living as a successful home builder. But us kids, wow, it was like being raised by the Gestapo.

Run, run as fast as you can from these people.
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Sometimes you cannot run. If it is your own child, grandchild, etc., it's impossible.
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Atheism has to be a factor.

angryface
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Bingo.

And a lower developed frontal lobe.
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And the love of money
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328514


^^^^
THIS
The one I know would sell his soul for a dollar and probably has.Nothing comes before money to him.He has done some beyond evil things for money.
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Dr Robert Hare is the expert in this field.

I suggest googling him to learn all that you can.
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I think some people are forced to live with and fight their internal demons on a daily basis. Maybe they think they weren't cut out for life? Maybe they think they didn't have a choice to be here? And then at some point their demons get the best of them. They can no longer fight them off. Their demons can no longer be kept internalized. And that is the point they decide they no longer want to participate in life. Whether a genius or fool the ending result is only the evil they succumb too.
 Quoting: Milo Jeeder 28700278


Nahhhh. They just got a busted brain from birth. Like a ticking timebomb maybe. As they absorb more and more that builds a more negative with nothing to counter in their mind, they need to evacuate it for balance. Unfortunately, that balance is feeding on the positive of other beings. When it all comes down to it, they are nothing more than vampires.
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"We're born like this, we had no choice..."
to paraphrase Leonard Cohen.
When are people going to click that some are just born Bad.
Even animals know that.
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A really bad haircut.



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Is there something wrong with being a sociopath?
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Is there something wrong with being a sociopath?
 Quoting: WindyMind


As I said about Capitalism in another thread. "It requires a minimum investment..."

People who have money in the bank are worried about the bank getting robbed. People who have a house are worried about who they let in it. And people who have no brains and stupefying greed are terrified that someone will expose that.

It's like a comfortable life. There is plenty to go around and everyone could enjoy a superbly high standard of living, but then you couldn't stagger the end result to favor those who cower to your agenda.

So naturally, someone wants to shoot your children.
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Is there something wrong with being a sociopath?
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As I said about Capitalism in another thread. "It requires a minimum investment..."

People who have money in the bank are worried about the bank getting robbed. People who have a house are worried about who they let in it. And people who have no brains and stupefying greed are terrified that someone will expose that.

It's like a comfortable life. There is plenty to go around and everyone could enjoy a superbly high standard of living, but then you couldn't stagger the end result to favor those who cower to your agenda.

So naturally, someone wants to shoot your children.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


Why naturally! Of course!
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here's profiler park dietz and ice man. he explains it well



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