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Why gun control is bigger than the Second Amendment

 
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Why gun control is bigger than the Second Amendment
A reflection.


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To the families and friends of all of the victims, it is about more than the politics of a historical document; it’s about guaranteeing that this never happens to anyone else’s children.

Barack Obama is in his second and final term. He is not facing re-election. He is not facing the prospect of being voted back in or out. Politically, he has nothing whatsoever to lose by doing what must be done.
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A point of interest. The Connecticut shooting happened on December 14, the same day as the Second Amendment was finalised before signing the day after back in 1791.
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
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stfu
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
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+1
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Furthermore, do you Aussies, do you Krauts, do you Limeys want an unarmed American populace? You think our military is out of control now, wait until the Russians and Chinese have to fight our military because we can't keep our leaders under control.
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A reflection.


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To the families and friends of all of the victims, it is about more than the politics of a historical document; it’s about guaranteeing that this never happens to anyone else’s children.

Barack Obama is in his second and final term. He is not facing re-election. He is not facing the prospect of being voted back in or out. Politically, he has nothing whatsoever to lose by doing what must be done.

 Quoting: The Tauremini


You sir, are an idiot. He is BO, hardcore leftest scumbag. And if you don't know how this fits in...there is no reason for me to explain it.
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


+1
 Quoting: MultiStrada


We will revolt like you pussies never had the balls or courage to do. Come get them, these states will succeed by force.
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Which team are you on?

gun control befo
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Furthermore, do you Aussies, do you Krauts, do you Limeys want an unarmed American populace?
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I for one am not in favour of gun control. It doesn't work as intended. The UK doesn't have a huge amount of gun crime for sure, but it does still happen, and we also have a huge amount of knife crime.
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


bsflag

People who support the right to own guns always seem like psychotics!
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


bsflag

People who support the right to own guns always seem like psychotics!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30035706


Let me know how this works out for you in the middle of the night when someone home invades you, and you just sit there and watch. Yepc you cant do a thing because you dont like guns!
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


bsflag

People who support the right to own guns always seem like psychotics!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30035706


Apparently you do not get around enough to even reconcile the need for people to protect themselves......guns are the great equalizer....isn't said for nothing
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Re: Why gun control is bigger than the Second Amendment
You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


+1
 Quoting: MultiStrada


We will revolt like you pussies never had the balls or courage to do. Come get them, these states will succeed by force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29062472


Well said.

The UK made handguns illegal in 1997 after 16 small children were killed the Dunblane Massacre. The MSM were responsible for pushing the ban into place.

Hasn't stopped gunmen going on rampages with rifles. Had enough of those since then.
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Furthermore, do you Aussies, do you Krauts, do you Limeys want an unarmed American populace? You think our military is out of control now, wait until the Russians and Chinese have to fight our military because we can't keep our leaders under control.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


This

[link to www.google.com.au]

Then no more guns
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Said the Wolf to the sheep.
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A Single Entity (group with the same paragon) Restricting consumption of scarce commodities.
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Furthermore, do you Aussies, do you Krauts, do you Limeys want an unarmed American populace? You think our military is out of control now, wait until the Russians and Chinese have to fight our military because we can't keep our leaders under control.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


This

[link to www.google.com.au]

Then no more guns
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29388948


Yet it is cool for the crime scene investigators [police] and those protecting money to walk around with unconcealed carry, yet we cannot protect our lifeblood. Shows the care factor and priority this system is about. Ah well, next time round no children and no property for me ....

Make it a head shot plz sir
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Furthermore, do you Aussies, do you Krauts, do you Limeys want an unarmed American populace? You think our military is out of control now, wait until the Russians and Chinese have to fight our military because we can't keep our leaders under control.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


This

[link to www.google.com.au]

Then no more guns
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29388948


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Then no more handguns
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A reflection.


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To the families and friends of all of the victims, it is about more than the politics of a historical document; it’s about guaranteeing that this never happens to anyone else’s children.

Barack Obama is in his second and final term. He is not facing re-election. He is not facing the prospect of being voted back in or out. Politically, he has nothing whatsoever to lose by doing what must be done.

 Quoting: The Tauremini


Go back to your Illuminati Hole in the ground.

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Furthermore, do you Aussies, do you Krauts, do you Limeys want an unarmed American populace? You think our military is out of control now, wait until the Russians and Chinese have to fight our military because we can't keep our leaders under control.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


This

[link to www.google.com.au]

Then no more guns
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29388948


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Then no more handguns
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29867098


Yes, and tougher laws to own rifles to the stage you have to be a paying member of a range, or a farmer with non semi automatic, then crossbows, swords in Victoria, soon a sharpened stick will land you in the cells

I'm not into firearms personally, yet the criminal element CAN get them and they do not CARE about the laws. Those of us towing the line are at a disadvantage unless ALL guns were gone. Convince the military to go back to the sword is my vote.
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


Could not have said it better myself.
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Gun control does not mean no more guns. It just means it would be harder for nut jobs to acquire a gun. It means courses, accreditations, permits.

It means stop behaving like fucking paranoid cowboys.

Its OK to have a shotgun or rifle hanging on the back window of your truck if you live on a ranch near a city of 85, you cant expect help to be 2 minutes away. But if you live in a major city, you shouldn't be able the carry, at all. If your moving your weapons, its unloaded and trigger locked in your trunk. At home, its locked in a safe, and dont give the combo to your kids.

You have the right to protect your home, i understand and concede that point. But in a city, its not your fucking job to protect everyone and everything, even yourself, its the police job. Same as the good old far-west days when they had to drop their guns at the sheriff when they got into town.

Do yourself a favor and go read a book. Then youll understand how the NRA with the help of tragedies and lobbying transformed the 2nd amendment into a big business for the gun industry. Maybe then you'll see whats its all really about... as usual... MONEY.

So stop freaking out, THEY're not coming for your guns anytime soon. Maybe you'll have to pass a test to prove your not a fucking moran with mommy issues, thats pretty much it, like for driving a car.

Calm down y'all.
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Guns: humans pointing a finger and commanding death, this is what we have come to sadly.
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why my universal right to self defense is bigger than gun control or the second amendment.


yeah- we are born with the right to defend our life.

a common dog has this right.
an ant colony has this right.
a rose bush has this right.

every creature on earth has developed some type of defense mechanism.

humans are tool users and have developed firearms for the defense of our lives.

writing a "law" on a piece of paper does not enforce or remove my right to defend myself.

this right of self defense is universal, shared by all.
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You just can't reason with the gun nuts, my friend. They actually believe that all that stands between liberty and a UN imposed police state is their little collection of assault rifles. Hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic and didn't have such terrible consequences for society.
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Furthermore, do you Aussies, do you Krauts, do you Limeys want an unarmed American populace? You think our military is out of control now, wait until the Russians and Chinese have to fight our military because we can't keep our leaders under control.
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Or, the Russians and Chinese will arm American rebels to do the fighting for them....sound familiar? Turn-about is fair play! WE'VE ASKED FOR IT...OVER AND OVER, AGAIN!
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Gun control does not mean no more guns. It just means it would be harder for nut jobs to acquire a gun. It means courses, accreditations, permits.

It means stop behaving like fucking paranoid cowboys.

Its OK to have a shotgun or rifle hanging on the back window of your truck if you live on a ranch near a city of 85, you cant expect help to be 2 minutes away. But if you live in a major city, you shouldn't be able the carry, at all. If your moving your weapons, its unloaded and trigger locked in your trunk. At home, its locked in a safe, and dont give the combo to your kids.

You have the right to protect your home, i understand and concede that point. But in a city, its not your fucking job to protect everyone and everything, even yourself, its the police job. Same as the good old far-west days when they had to drop their guns at the sheriff when they got into town.

Do yourself a favor and go read a book. Then youll understand how the NRA with the help of tragedies and lobbying transformed the 2nd amendment into a big business for the gun industry. Maybe then you'll see whats its all really about... as usual... MONEY.

So stop freaking out, THEY're not coming for your guns anytime soon. Maybe you'll have to pass a test to prove your not a fucking moran with mommy issues, thats pretty much it, like for driving a car.

Calm down y'all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18700349


There is always corruption, it is the nature of perceived power.

What is the point of the police showing up after your family has been shot down? Why does a farmer need guns compared to city folk? A desperado or two with kitchen knives is a bigger problem to tackle than a serpent or a kangaroo eating 3 plants of the crop, or dingoes, coyotes whatever, you have taken their right to exist away from them, you want them all dead so you can grow cows and beans?

Your last paragraph, the nonsensical name calling etc, hope you do not have guns lol ....

Speaking of courses to show competence, I was in the military and had to place holes in another members target so he passed the range, geez .....
That shit is all open book.
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We have the capacity to use tools, but the intelligence to not have to use them when we can live without them.
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No amount of ever increasingly stringent laws are going to stop a nut case bent on destruction. Criminals don't obey laws. That's what makes them criminals.

Taking guns away from the law abiding public only serves to ensure that they will be defenseless when the criminal lunatic who doesn't obey the law sets out to murder and destroy.
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You just can't reason with the gun nuts, my friend. They actually believe that all that stands between liberty and a UN imposed police state is their little collection of assault rifles. Hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic and didn't have such terrible consequences for society.
 Quoting: Enough already 27192275


Thank you Mr Govt Shill for your comments.

When the food runs out (probably next year), I'll stand by the gun nuts.

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