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Why gun control is bigger than the Second Amendment

 
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Thread: Time to ARM everybody in order to save the children!!!
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Sorry.....but that 90 lb. basement dwelling dork was not a professional hitman.......but merely a scapegoat.....and no longer alive to talk about it.
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Good point. But could you explain to me how fists would have helped the children?
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Grown ups are smart enough to realize that not everyone is going to use their fists. Moron!
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Good point. But could you explain to me how fists would have helped the children?
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What is the true issue here? The children or gun control?
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Good point. But could you explain to me how fists would have helped the children?
 Quoting: Chip


What is the true issue here? The children or gun control?
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The true issue is keeping people safe. That is the purpose of gun control..no? Use all 5 brain cells and concentrate.
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Grown ups are smart enough to realize that not everyone is going to use their fists. Moron!
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Yeah we know. Us non-American are moronic enough to not be afraid and always thinking about people who could shoot us.

Newsflash: you will die.
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Good point. But could you explain to me how fists would have helped the children?
 Quoting: Chip


What is the true issue here? The children or gun control?
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The true issue is keeping people safe. That is the purpose of gun control..no? Use all 5 brain cells and concentrate.
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My country people are quite safe thanks.

I'll come to the US as a tourist in March. Should I bring a gun with me to protect myself?
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A reflection.


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[link to mediajackhammer.wordpress.com]


To the families and friends of all of the victims, it is about more than the politics of a historical document; it’s about guaranteeing that this never happens to anyone else’s children.

Barack Obama is in his second and final term. He is not facing re-election. He is not facing the prospect of being voted back in or out. Politically, he has nothing whatsoever to lose by doing what must be done.

 Quoting: The Tauremini


What do you want to bet that the author of this piece to ban guns to "Save the Children" also believes in free taxpayer funded unfettered abortion in every hospital district as well...

Just sayin...

This is not about those children anymore, they are being exploited for a political agenda...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/16/2012 11:13 AM
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Good point. But could you explain to me how fists would have helped the children?
 Quoting: Chip


What is the true issue here? The children or gun control?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


The true issue is keeping people safe. That is the purpose of gun control..no? Use all 5 brain cells and concentrate.
 Quoting: Chip


My country people are quite safe thanks.

I'll come to the US as a tourist in March. Should I bring a gun with me to protect myself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


No. I'd rather an idiot like you confront an armed criminal with your fists. You deserve the experience and it keeps you to your own words.
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He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda ~David Mills ~ Se7en!

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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Apparently you don't have hunting there, that is why I own most of my guns, but the 12 gauge can send someone back out the door if need be. You sound like someone in their 20s that hasn't faced the realities of life yet,and probably have never seen death up close, you just keep living in your little dream world.
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Gun control does not mean no more guns. It just means it would be harder for nut jobs to acquire a gun. It means courses, accreditations, permits.

It means stop behaving like fucking paranoid cowboys.

Its OK to have a shotgun or rifle hanging on the back window of your truck if you live on a ranch near a city of 85, you cant expect help to be 2 minutes away. But if you live in a major city, you shouldn't be able the carry, at all. If your moving your weapons, its unloaded and trigger locked in your trunk. At home, its locked in a safe, and dont give the combo to your kids.

You have the right to protect your home, i understand and concede that point. But in a city, its not your fucking job to protect everyone and everything, even yourself, its the police job. Same as the good old far-west days when they had to drop their guns at the sheriff when they got into town.

Do yourself a favor and go read a book. Then youll understand how the NRA with the help of tragedies and lobbying transformed the 2nd amendment into a big business for the gun industry. Maybe then you'll see whats its all really about... as usual... MONEY.

So stop freaking out, THEY're not coming for your guns anytime soon. Maybe you'll have to pass a test to prove your not a fucking moran with mommy issues, thats pretty much it, like for driving a car.

Calm down y'all.
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WRONG ! Take your own advise and go read a book... a law book...

THE COPS HAVE NO DUTY TO PROTECT YOU

PUBLIC DUTY DOCTRINE
[link to definitions.uslegal.com]

Public duty doctrine is a principle of personal injury law that government owes duties to the public at large rather than individuals. In general, this doctrine provides that a governmental entity can be held liable only when the duty breached was owed to the injured person as an individual and was not merely the breach of an obligation owed to the public at large. Governmental duty to protect its citizens is a general duty to the public as a whole. When there is only a general duty to protect the public, there is no duty of care to an individual citizen which may result in liability. In short a duty to all is a duty to no one.


[link to www.duhaime.org]

In Eklund, the Montana Supreme Court held:

"The public duty doctrine provides that a governmental entity cannot be held liable for an individual plaintiff's injury resulting from a governmental officer's breach of a duty owed to the general public rather than to the individual plaintiff."
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What is the true issue here? The children or gun control?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


The true issue is keeping people safe. That is the purpose of gun control..no? Use all 5 brain cells and concentrate.
 Quoting: Chip


My country people are quite safe thanks.

I'll come to the US as a tourist in March. Should I bring a gun with me to protect myself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


No. I'd rather an idiot like you confront an armed criminal with your fists. You deserve the experience and it keeps you to your own words.
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So your country isn't safe? They lied to us at the travel agency! Damn bastards.
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Nothing will ever disarm Americans, twat brains.
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Apparently you don't have hunting there, that is why I own most of my guns, but the 12 gauge can send someone back out the door if need be. You sound like someone in their 20s that hasn't faced the realities of life yet,and probably have never seen death up close, you just keep living in your little dream world.
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We do have hunting. But we don't use semi-automatic weapons ;)

And I've seen death closer than you'd believe. Are you afraid of it?
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It took police 10 minutes to get to Sandy Hook.


10 long minutes.

1 Armed person inside the school could have been at the classroom in 2 minutes unless he happened to be patrolling that hallway that instant.



Criminals don't obey laws. They will steal weapons and commit crimes regardless of the laws.

You can ban every gun on the planet and it won't stop a criminal hell bent on this type of crime.

You have to take the son of a bitch out once he begins to act.


Taking away my guns isn't going to stop a criminal. It's just going to unarm me and make me wait 10 minutes for a cop that may or may not come. I'm not waiting nor am I going to become a victim.
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Good point. But could you explain to me how fists would have helped the children?
 Quoting: Chip


What is the true issue here? The children or gun control?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


The true issue is keeping people safe. That is the purpose of gun control..no? Use all 5 brain cells and concentrate.
 Quoting: Chip


My country people are quite safe thanks.

I'll come to the US as a tourist in March. Should I bring a gun with me to protect myself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Good, come look me up. Ill go fist to fist with you, sounds like you need some sense beat into you. Better yet, don't even come we don't need people like you coming here.
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Good, come look me up. Ill go fist to fist with you, sounds like you need some sense beat into you. Better yet, don't even come we don't need people like you coming here.
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Are all Americans as aggressive as you are? That would explain the feeling of safety a gun would provide to someone.
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You just can't reason with the gun nuts, my friend. They actually believe that all that stands between liberty and a UN imposed police state is their little collection of assault rifles. Hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic and didn't have such terrible consequences for society.
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You my friend are free to put your right to life in the hands of another.I choose to keep that right within my own hands.I do however find your choice pathetic,weak and lazy.
I may just kill You for fun.
Or it may be just business.
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Good, come look me up. Ill go fist to fist with you, sounds like you need some sense beat into you. Better yet, don't even come we don't need people like you coming here.
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Are all Americans as aggressive as you are? That would explain the feeling of safety a gun would provide to someone.
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LOL..shaddup, dick. What are you hoping to accomplish here? You think people that own guns are going to suddenly agree with your pussy ass?
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People like you are ignorant children.
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You just can't reason with the gun nuts, my friend. They actually believe that all that stands between liberty and a UN imposed police state is their little collection of assault rifles. Hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic and didn't have such terrible consequences for society.
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You my friend are free to put your right to life in the hands of another.I choose to keep that right within my own hands.I do however find your choice pathetic,weak and lazy.
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Discussing guns with a paranoid is like discussing drugs with an hypochondriac.

They never have enough.
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Good, come look me up. Ill go fist to fist with you, sounds like you need some sense beat into you. Better yet, don't even come we don't need people like you coming here.
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 30043751


Are all Americans as aggressive as you are? That would explain the feeling of safety a gun would provide to someone.
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LOL..shaddup, dick. What are you hoping to accomplish here? You think people that own guns are going to suddenly agree with your pussy ass?
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I'm not trying to accomplish anything. It's an open forum. I voice my opinion politely.

Deal with it.
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
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bsflag

People who support the right to own guns always seem like psychotics!
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Like the founders of the nation, huh.
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Good, come look me up. Ill go fist to fist with you, sounds like you need some sense beat into you. Better yet, don't even come we don't need people like you coming here.
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Are all Americans as aggressive as you are? That would explain the feeling of safety a gun would provide to someone.
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Your the one that started the fist to fist thing, i just wanted to oblige you. Yes we are aggressive, and thats what made and makes us the biggest baddest and strongest. By the way how big is your country?
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Furthermore, do you Aussies, do you Krauts, do you Limeys want an unarmed American populace? You think our military is out of control now, wait until the Russians and Chinese have to fight our military because we can't keep our leaders under control.
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lol! Your leaders haven't been under your control for years.
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Good, come look me up. Ill go fist to fist with you, sounds like you need some sense beat into you. Better yet, don't even come we don't need people like you coming here.
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 30043751


Are all Americans as aggressive as you are? That would explain the feeling of safety a gun would provide to someone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Your the one that started the fist to fist thing, i just wanted to oblige you. Yes we are aggressive, and thats what made and makes us the biggest baddest and strongest. By the way how big is your country?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 30043751


Hit a nerve?

I never started a fight. I just said that guns are for people who are afraid of everything. It gives them a false feeling of security. If you have no fear, a gun is not something mandatory.

I could crack a home intruder skulls open with a baseball bat. Home intruders don't even have guns here.

It's like the cold war. If citizen have more guns, criminals will equip accordingly.
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Good, come look me up. Ill go fist to fist with you, sounds like you need some sense beat into you. Better yet, don't even come we don't need people like you coming here.
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 30043751


Are all Americans as aggressive as you are? That would explain the feeling of safety a gun would provide to someone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Your the one that started the fist to fist thing, i just wanted to oblige you. Yes we are aggressive, and thats what made and makes us the biggest baddest and strongest. By the way how big is your country?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 30043751


Hit a nerve?

I never started a fight. I just said that guns are for people who are afraid of everything. It gives them a false feeling of security. If you have no fear, a gun is not something mandatory.

I could crack a home intruder skulls open with a baseball bat. Home intruders don't even have guns here.

It's like the cold war. If citizen have more guns, criminals will equip accordingly.
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Idiot! over
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Idiot! over
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When you are out of arguments, resort to personal attacks. Works everytime and makes you look strong (not)