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Why gun control is bigger than the Second Amendment

 
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Hey everybody a "tough guy" jerkit
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A "tough guy" with a bullet stopping bat and fists.Maybe he will come visit Chicago sometime. They just eat guys like him up.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Dear God, your country seems more dangerous than Congo or Kosovo. You guys must be so badass.
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Not so much badass as situationaly aware.You live in a different world.In every world there are certain reality's that one must face.Some being, Bad guys don't follow laws (part of being a bad guy]. Bad guys have guns.(Inasmuch as some don't believe this it's true} and Police are not always close by.You do for your family and I will do for mine.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


You guys don't even understand that the more guns you buy, the more armed the criminals will be. You really think criminality can be eradicated, lol (especially in a country without social safety net)? It can only be made less lethal.
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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410224


To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
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If you are ever face to face with a man with a gun throw your balls at him.I hope that works out for you.
I may just kill You for fun.
Or it may be just business.
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A reflection.


Link
[link to mediajackhammer.wordpress.com]


To the families and friends of all of the victims, it is about more than the politics of a historical document; it’s about guaranteeing that this never happens to anyone else’s children.

Barack Obama is in his second and final term. He is not facing re-election. He is not facing the prospect of being voted back in or out. Politically, he has nothing whatsoever to lose by doing what must be done.

 Quoting: The Tauremini


Without a constitution the government in question has no legitimate right to power. They void their contract with the American people. Period THey've already voided their ability to govern. Homeland Security, the TSA, the NSA, all the police in the world, and they did nothing to stop this. They were the most innocent in a gun free zone, where guns were not legally allowed, and still this.

If the government was so anxious for gun control, why did they give thousands and thousands of guns to the drug cartels, and why are they supplying rebels in the middle east with guns by the thousands? Be very careful whose arms you go running to, to save you.


One last thought, you cannot ban crazy. You could be locked in a prison where they control every aspect of your life, your sleep, your eating, the time you get up, and the time you go to bed. Yet everyday in this prison there are killings.

This sick and twisted individual could have used, fire, knives, swords, explosives, toilet bowl cleaning acid, a sharp stick, hell even his bare hands, a bat, a hammer, a axe, a cleaver, power tools, a bow and arrow. The list is endless, you will never stop crazy, especially when someone is willing to die. There is no law you could possible pass that would stop evil. I'm sorry to break it to you.

Maybe if you wanted to protect the innocent, you could put prayer back in school, stop telling everyone there is no God, or the most unthinkable of all, stop the slaughter of the unborn through abortions.

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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410224


To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
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Still at it eh troll? How many times are you going to say this? It's getting annoying.
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A "tough guy" with a bullet stopping bat and fists.Maybe he will come visit Chicago sometime. They just eat guys like him up.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Dear God, your country seems more dangerous than Congo or Kosovo. You guys must be so badass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Not so much badass as situationaly aware.You live in a different world.In every world there are certain reality's that one must face.Some being, Bad guys don't follow laws (part of being a bad guy]. Bad guys have guns.(Inasmuch as some don't believe this it's true} and Police are not always close by.You do for your family and I will do for mine.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


You guys don't even understand that the more guns you buy, the more armed the criminals will be. You really think criminality can be eradicated, lol (especially in a country without social safety net)? It can only be made less lethal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Be real it's to late. It may be a vicious circle but I live in it. I do not wish to be the first to be unarmed.Would you like to be my shield?You can keep your commie safety net.The whole point is that I am responsible for my own is that so hard to grasp?

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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410224


To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


If you are ever face to face with a man with a gun throw your balls at him.I hope that works out for you.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Criminals don't feel the need to have guns here. Because citizen aren't armed. So it will be REALLY hard for me to face a man with a gun here, sorry. They are only armed to go against the police.
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Be real it's to late. It may be a vicious circle but I live in it. I do not wish to be the first to be unarmed.Would you like to be my shield?
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It takes balls to do the first step. I'll be your shield if you are a friend.
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Be real it's to late. It may be a vicious circle but I live in it. I do not wish to be the first to be unarmed.Would you like to be my shield?
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


It takes balls to do the first step. I'll be your shield if you are a friend.
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Talk is cheap and has killed many.
I may just kill You for fun.
Or it may be just business.
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The semi-auto assault rifles are more accurate and generally have more powerful rounds that any revolver. There's probably also a reason no ones pulled off a massacre with a revolver and speed loaders rolleyes ... it's a hell of a lot easier with an AR. So as for ignorance - look in the mirror!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


More idiocy!!! HAH! A revolver has minimal moving parts and is nearly 100% straight every shot. In fact groups shot into a target from a revolver are less than 1/4 of an inch apart and occasionally even hit the same bullet hole twice.

Pwned again. Quit dude...really just stop.
 Quoting: Chip


Great. So obviously revolvers are the superior weapon. You should pass the memo on to the worlds militaries - they better replace their rifles with good old revolvers!

Seriously, stop and think about what your arguing here.

Pwned? ha!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


If they wanted complete accuracy they probably would. Instead they opted to use a 5.56 rounds which can be deadly at great distances. The politically correct asshats (that think like you) thought it more humane to merely maim the enemy...not kill him.
 Quoting: Chip


Ok. So your sticking with your idea that a revolver is a deadlier weapon for mass shootings than a semi AR ?

lalalmao

You're a moron.
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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410224


To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Still at it eh troll? How many times are you going to say this? It's getting annoying.
 Quoting: Chip


Ignore it then. You call it trolling, but I genuinely believe it. The US have a culture of fear because it's great to manipulate the masses (fear of the commie, fear of the terrorist, fear of the "government", fear of the "ghey", fear of ageing and death, fear pretty much everything -conspiracy theories are an US speciality) , and the most guns per citizen. Coincidence? I think not.

I'm sorry if you don't like my opinion. I don't feel the need to please people here since it's a discussion forum.
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Be real it's to late. It may be a vicious circle but I live in it. I do not wish to be the first to be unarmed.Would you like to be my shield?
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


It takes balls to do the first step. I'll be your shield if you are a friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Talk is cheap and has killed many.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


I'll be happy to prove my words if the situation arises. I'm not afraid to die. I'm already dead.
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Op,

A reflection:

Be concerned with the problems in your own country where honest citizens have been neutered of their gun rights yet your criminals and gangs have weapons.

Many links:

Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime Rates Down Under increase despite strict gun-control measures
[link to consumercide.com]

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
[link to www.ncpa.org]

Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban
[link to www.examiner.com]

Violent crime hits Australia's Gold Coast
[link to www.news24.com]

Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime
Rates Down Under increase despite strict gun-control measures
[link to www.wnd.com]

Do Gun Bans Reduce Violent Crime? Ask the Aussies and Brits
[link to www.captainsjournal.com]

Australia`s Gun Ban, Crime & Video Tape
[link to www.nraila.org]
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More idiocy!!! HAH! A revolver has minimal moving parts and is nearly 100% straight every shot. In fact groups shot into a target from a revolver are less than 1/4 of an inch apart and occasionally even hit the same bullet hole twice.

Pwned again. Quit dude...really just stop.
 Quoting: Chip


Great. So obviously revolvers are the superior weapon. You should pass the memo on to the worlds militaries - they better replace their rifles with good old revolvers!

Seriously, stop and think about what your arguing here.

Pwned? ha!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


If they wanted complete accuracy they probably would. Instead they opted to use a 5.56 rounds which can be deadly at great distances. The politically correct asshats (that think like you) thought it more humane to merely maim the enemy...not kill him.
 Quoting: Chip


Ok. So your sticking with your idea that a revolver is a deadlier weapon for mass shootings than a semi AR ?

lalalmao

You're a moron.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


Don't put words in my mouth. I never said any such thing. I was imploring the accuracy of a revolver vs any semi-auto. Look it up it's a fact.

Listen aussie troll fucktard we all realize that you need to justify the reasons why you allowed your government to take your semi-autos. I get that. I understand. However your reasoning sucks major ass!!!

If you take the semi-auto's away from the law abiding citizens you only embolden the criminals that have semi-auto weapons. All the American people are asking for is what we have been given according to the constitution. A fair fight to defend ourselves.

Your ideals will get people killed!
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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410224


To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
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Still at it eh troll? How many times are you going to say this? It's getting annoying.
 Quoting: Chip


Ignore it then. You call it trolling, but I genuinely believe it. The US have a culture of fear because it's great to manipulate the masses (fear of the commie, fear of the terrorist, fear of the "government", fear of the "ghey", fear of ageing and death, fear pretty much everything -conspiracy theories are an US speciality) , and the most guns per citizen. Coincidence? I think not.

I'm sorry if you don't like my opinion. I don't feel the need to please people here since it's a discussion forum.
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Dude you live in Belgium. Quite possibly the most boring, ghey useless place to live in the world. Nobody wants anything you have. You have nothing to offer especially opinions on American domestic policy that have no effect on you what so ever.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke

Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain

He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda ~David Mills ~ Se7en!

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Its uneducated tards like you that push misinformation. It was NOT an automatic weapon. It was SEMI automatic..one trigger pull, one bullet fired. No less dangerous then a revolver FFS.


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All it takes to make a semi automatic assault rifle shoot almost on par with an automatic is a slide stock and knowing how to bump fire.



I'm pretty sure you cant do that with a revolver. And I'm pretty sure a semi automatic rifle clip can carry 30 bullets as opposed to 6 in a revolver. So, it's reasonable to say a semi automatic assault style rifle is more dangerous than a revolver (in terms of being able to kill multiple people quickly)
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I know people who can shoot 100 rounds through a revolver within minutes with the use of speed loaders. Your ignorance is rife with obvious blatancy.
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The semi-auto assault rifles are more accurate and generally have more powerful rounds that any revolver. There's probably also a reason no ones pulled off a massacre with a revolver and speed loaders rolleyes ... it's a hell of a lot easier with an AR. So as for ignorance - look in the mirror!
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Actually, most every speed shooting record has been won with a revolver, and almost every revolver round is more powerful than an ar-15 round.

you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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and we told u retards not to vote for him but u did anyway....
and we told u retards to move out of cities and suburbs but u didn't.....
and now u think that guns should be confiscated and we're telling u no....

u have no clue what is happening to this country...
u have no clue on the level of violence u will soon see every day....

all I can say is: learn how to fight and learn fast. boxing and judo would be my choices.....
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If you take the semi-auto's away from the law abiding citizens you only embolden the criminals that have semi-auto weapons.
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Criminals will then have full autos to fuck you guys with semi-autos.

I don't think you understand where this is going.

Once you are heading for the wall, better speed up so the death is less painful, right?
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Dude you live in Belgium. Quite possibly the most boring, ghey useless place to live in the world. Nobody wants anything you have. You have nothing to offer especially opinions on American domestic policy that have no effect on you what so ever.
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Then don't read my posts. I don't care what you think.
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From America's Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,


and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles
and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely
to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should
not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience
hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable,
than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,

IT IS THEIR RIGHT, IT IS THEIR DUTY, TO THROW OFF SUCH GOVERNMENT,


and to provide new Guards for their future security"



America's founders knew FIRST HAND what it was like to live under tyranny.

George Washington said:

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE.
Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."


Our founders DID NOT give us the Second Amendment
to the Constitution so we could hunt deer.

They gave us the Second Amendment, so that we could
OVERTHROW a tyrannical government.

"The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to keep and BEAR ARMS,
shall not be infringed."


They were talking about the MILITARY WEAPONS of the day.
And the MILITIA was then EVERY ABLE BODIED MAN.

The enemies of America want to disarm the people,
so that any resistors to totalitarianism,
where we are headed, can be easily crushed,

AS HAS HAPPENED OVER AND OVER, ALL OVER THE WORLD,
THROUGHOUT ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY.


We will NOT let this happen in America.
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I know people who can shoot 100 rounds through a revolver within minutes with the use of speed loaders. Your ignorance is rife with obvious blatancy.
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The semi-auto assault rifles are more accurate and generally have more powerful rounds that any revolver. There's probably also a reason no ones pulled off a massacre with a revolver and speed loaders rolleyes ... it's a hell of a lot easier with an AR. So as for ignorance - look in the mirror!
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U can not ban guns, does not workout, never has. There will b lots after a ban.

In AZ when that whack job shot Giffords in AZ, he used a 9mm glock pistol.

The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle.

Is this stat wrong?

Since the gun ban in Australia, armed robberies are up 69%, assaults with guns up 28%, gun murders increased 19%, and home invasions jumped 21%. More proof that not only does gun control not work, it makes it safer for the criminals at large. In their words

Read more: [link to freedomoutpost.com]
 Quoting: TTX8K82


The 'gun ban' in Australia was a ban primarily on semi-auto weapons. Plenty of people still have bolt action rifles, shotguns, and if you care to join a gun club, semi-automatic pistols and revolvers. If these stats are true, they may be part of a rise in crime in general or perhaps other reasons (gun crime has become quite common in specific areas due to lebanese immigrants). I should also point out there hasn't been a gun massacre in Australia in the 17 years since the assault style rifles were banend.
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thanks for the info.

I don't know about the latest, but every child, who has shot another child @ a public school, has been on some sort of psycho drug. I believe that is were the problem is, and big pharma is going to push more. R they doing that down under?
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If you take the semi-auto's away from the law abiding citizens you only embolden the criminals that have semi-auto weapons.
 Quoting: Chip


Criminals will then have full autos to fuck you guys with semi-autos.

I don't think you understand where this is going.

Once you are heading for the wall, better speed up so the death is less painful, right?
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I completely understand and that is why I say ARM EVERYBODY...made a thread about it yesterday.

There are two choices!!!

1.) Disarm the citizenry - Bloodbath!
2.) Arm everybody - Bloodbath!

Either way, it's a fucked up scenario! But I like the idea of a fair fight...so I want my ability to defend myself!!!
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I do not wish to kill anyone or any thing but I also wish not to die.If I live my whole life without raising my weapon I will be a happy man.But I do not live in a fantasy land and know that where I live it may come to killing another to protect my life (a harsh reality).You know the worst part is that it may come to that because of the color of my hat or skin,my shoes or where Im walking. Walk a mile in my shoe's.19 people where shot in my city last nite one nite!You wish me to be a lamb to the slaughter?
I may just kill You for fun.
Or it may be just business.
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Dude you live in Belgium. Quite possibly the most boring, ghey useless place to live in the world. Nobody wants anything you have. You have nothing to offer especially opinions on American domestic policy that have no effect on you what so ever.
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Then don't read my posts. I don't care what you think.
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It does matter because there are impressionable people everywhere and I'm not going to let a foreign fag deceive otherwise decent Americans.
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If you take the semi-auto's away from the law abiding citizens you only embolden the criminals that have semi-auto weapons.
 Quoting: Chip


Criminals will then have full autos to fuck you guys with semi-autos.

I don't think you understand where this is going.

Once you are heading for the wall, better speed up so the death is less painful, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


I completely understand and that is why I say ARM EVERYBODY...made a thread about it yesterday.

There are two choices!!!

1.) Disarm the citizenry - Bloodbath!
2.) Arm everybody - Bloodbath!

Either way, it's a fucked up scenario! But I like the idea of a fair fight...so I want my ability to defend myself!!!
 Quoting: Chip


Good program. Anyone who studied history knows very well which empire is going to fall net because of their pride.

Hasten the fall.
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Dude you live in Belgium. Quite possibly the most boring, ghey useless place to live in the world. Nobody wants anything you have. You have nothing to offer especially opinions on American domestic policy that have no effect on you what so ever.
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Then don't read my posts. I don't care what you think.
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It does matter because there are impressionable people everywhere and I'm not going to let a foreign fag deceive otherwise decent Americans.
 Quoting: Chip


Then use good arguments instead of attacking me personally.
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I also wish not to die.
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Too bad. You will.

Better getting used to it now.
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It took police 10 minutes to get to Sandy Hook.


10 long minutes.

1 Armed person inside the school could have been at the classroom in 2 minutes unless he happened to be patrolling that hallway that instant.



Criminals don't obey laws. They will steal weapons and commit crimes regardless of the laws.

You can ban every gun on the planet and it won't stop a criminal hell bent on this type of crime.

You have to take the son of a bitch out once he begins to act.


Taking away my guns isn't going to stop a criminal. It's just going to unarm me and make me wait 10 minutes for a cop that may or may not come. I'm not waiting nor am I going to become a victim.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Exactly.

Furthermore, if guns go away guess what you're going to get? BOMBS. That's right - BOMBS will be the new normal. It will be the only way for some wacko to kill en-masse with a guaranteed success rate.

See how slippery this slope is?
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Re: Why gun control is bigger than the Second Amendment
Gun control does not mean no more guns. It just means it would be harder for nut jobs to acquire a gun. It means courses, accreditations, permits.

It means stop behaving like fucking paranoid cowboys.

Its OK to have a shotgun or rifle hanging on the back window of your truck if you live on a ranch near a city of 85, you cant expect help to be 2 minutes away. But if you live in a major city, you shouldn't be able the carry, at all. If your moving your weapons, its unloaded and trigger locked in your trunk. At home, its locked in a safe, and dont give the combo to your kids.

You have the right to protect your home, i understand and concede that point. But in a city, its not your fucking job to protect everyone and everything, even yourself, its the police job. Same as the good old far-west days when they had to drop their guns at the sheriff when they got into town.

Do yourself a favor and go read a book. Then youll understand how the NRA with the help of tragedies and lobbying transformed the 2nd amendment into a big business for the gun industry. Maybe then you'll see whats its all really about... as usual... MONEY.

So stop freaking out, THEY're not coming for your guns anytime soon. Maybe you'll have to pass a test to prove your not a fucking moran with mommy issues, thats pretty much it, like for driving a car.

Calm down y'all.
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Ya because the police did and EXCELLENT job of protecting the 27 dead in CT. When SECONDS count the police are only MINUTES away. IDIOT.
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Dude you live in Belgium. Quite possibly the most boring, ghey useless place to live in the world. Nobody wants anything you have. You have nothing to offer especially opinions on American domestic policy that have no effect on you what so ever.
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Then don't read my posts. I don't care what you think.
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It does matter because there are impressionable people everywhere and I'm not going to let a foreign fag deceive otherwise decent Americans.
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Then use good arguments instead of attacking me personally.
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I have re-read the thread...quit derailing.
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Then don't read my posts. I don't care what you think.
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It does matter because there are impressionable people everywhere and I'm not going to let a foreign fag deceive otherwise decent Americans.
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Then use good arguments instead of attacking me personally.
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I have re-read the thread...quit derailing.
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I'm talking about guns. You call me a fag. You are the one derailing.