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Why gun control is bigger than the Second Amendment

 
RomeoKiller

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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Hey everybody a "tough guy" jerkit
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A "tough guy" with a bullet stopping bat and fists.Maybe he will come visit Chicago sometime. They just eat guys like him up.
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The first item of business when the communists take over a nation is to disarm the people: Cuba, Russia, China, Hungry...America is next.
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
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Hey everybody a "tough guy" jerkit
 Quoting: Railhead


A "tough guy" with a bullet stopping bat and fists.Maybe he will come visit Chicago sometime. They just eat guys like him up.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Dear God, your country seems more dangerous than Congo or Kosovo. You guys must be so badass.
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Gun control does not mean no more guns. It just means it would be harder for nut jobs to acquire a gun. It means courses, accreditations, permits.
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Who gets to define who is a nutjob?
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Gun control does not mean no more guns. It just means it would be harder for nut jobs to acquire a gun. It means courses, accreditations, permits.
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Who gets to define who is a nutjob?
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Professionals?
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I know people who can shoot 100 rounds through a revolver within minutes with the use of speed loaders.
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You guys need tighter regulation for revolvers too then.
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Great, then we'll only allow weapons of the type that existed when the Bill of Rights was ratified. There is no valid reason for owning an automatic assault rifle.
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Its uneducated tards like you that push misinformation. It was NOT an automatic weapon. It was SEMI automatic..one trigger pull, one bullet fired. No less dangerous then a revolver FFS.


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All it takes to make a semi automatic assault rifle shoot almost on par with an automatic is a slide stock and knowing how to bump fire.



I'm pretty sure you cant do that with a revolver. And I'm pretty sure a semi automatic rifle clip can carry 30 bullets as opposed to 6 in a revolver. So, it's reasonable to say a semi automatic assault style rifle is more dangerous than a revolver (in terms of being able to kill multiple people quickly)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


I know people who can shoot 100 rounds through a revolver within minutes with the use of speed loaders. Your ignorance is rife with obvious blatancy.
 Quoting: Chip


The semi-auto assault rifles are more accurate and generally have more powerful rounds that any revolver. There's probably also a reason no ones pulled off a massacre with a revolver and speed loaders rolleyes ... it's a hell of a lot easier with an AR. So as for ignorance - look in the mirror!
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A reflection.


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To the families and friends of all of the victims, it is about more than the politics of a historical document; it’s about guaranteeing that this never happens to anyone else’s children.

Barack Obama is in his second and final term. He is not facing re-election. He is not facing the prospect of being voted back in or out. Politically, he has nothing whatsoever to lose by doing what must be done.

 Quoting: The Tauremini


Don't you get it? Gun control would keep innocent people like the Sandy Hook victims from defenidng themselves. Meanwhile, the criminals would find ways to get guns illegally. What if someone broke into your home? What if that gun was the only thing between you and death? Would you apperciate gun control then?
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It's a good thing that the pro-guns are a minority anyway. They will slowly disappear as the world evolves and they can't keep up with it. Just as those who believed the sun revolves around earth. A relic of the past.
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You're right, this isn't about the Sandy Hook Massacre, it's about the MSM and government manipulating everything we read, hear, and see. And it's about a fucking president that should have never been in office in the first place.

They can take their new legislation and shove it up their collectivist asses.
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+1
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+ another 1
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A reflection.


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To the families and friends of all of the victims, it is about more than the politics of a historical document; it’s about guaranteeing that this never happens to anyone else’s children.

Barack Obama is in his second and final term. He is not facing re-election. He is not facing the prospect of being voted back in or out. Politically, he has nothing whatsoever to lose by doing what must be done.

 Quoting: The Tauremini


Don't you get it? Gun control would keep innocent people like the Sandy Hook victims from defenidng themselves. Meanwhile, the criminals would find ways to get guns illegally. What if someone broke into your home? What if that gun was the only thing between you and death? Would you apperciate gun control then?
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Gun control doesn't necessarily mean an outright ban on every gun. A double barrel shotgun is very sufficient for shooting or deterring a home invader and shouldn't be affected by reasonable gun control.
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People need to understand and take heed: As goes the Second Amendment, so goes all other Constitutional Rights.

Any restriction, limitation or outright nullification of the Second Amendment will serve as precedent, and pretense, for restricting, limiting and nullifying all other rights.

There is nothing in the Constitution that makes one right greater or lesser than the other. Thus, the same "argument" used to restrict one right can be employed for the restriction of all others.

People need to realize that precedent set involving any one right in the bill of Rights can and will be used by those in power with respect to all other rights.

People don't need guns, so let's restrict their ownership. Well, people don't "need" the internet either. I mean, you have phones (some of them free), can get your news from television, etc. And really, if people have nothing to hide, they should have no problem with a routine health and welfare search of their homes. For the public good of course.

We are witnessing the debate to open Pandora's box. And we are being conditioned to accept more and more government control of and intrusion into our lives. Twenty years ago, did anyone dream they would have to submit to a "strip search" before being allowed to fly on an airplane?
 Quoting: Major Jim


What other constitutional rights?

They have already gone.
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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
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Its uneducated tards like you that push misinformation. It was NOT an automatic weapon. It was SEMI automatic..one trigger pull, one bullet fired. No less dangerous then a revolver FFS.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10404177


All it takes to make a semi automatic assault rifle shoot almost on par with an automatic is a slide stock and knowing how to bump fire.



I'm pretty sure you cant do that with a revolver. And I'm pretty sure a semi automatic rifle clip can carry 30 bullets as opposed to 6 in a revolver. So, it's reasonable to say a semi automatic assault style rifle is more dangerous than a revolver (in terms of being able to kill multiple people quickly)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


I know people who can shoot 100 rounds through a revolver within minutes with the use of speed loaders. Your ignorance is rife with obvious blatancy.
 Quoting: Chip


The semi-auto assault rifles are more accurate and generally have more powerful rounds that any revolver. There's probably also a reason no ones pulled off a massacre with a revolver and speed loaders rolleyes ... it's a hell of a lot easier with an AR. So as for ignorance - look in the mirror!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


U can not ban guns, does not workout, never has. There will b lots after a ban.

In AZ when that whack job shot Giffords in AZ, he used a 9mm glock pistol.

The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle.

Is this stat wrong?

Since the gun ban in Australia, armed robberies are up 69%, assaults with guns up 28%, gun murders increased 19%, and home invasions jumped 21%. More proof that not only does gun control not work, it makes it safer for the criminals at large. In their words

Read more: [link to freedomoutpost.com]
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All it takes to make a semi automatic assault rifle shoot almost on par with an automatic is a slide stock and knowing how to bump fire.



I'm pretty sure you cant do that with a revolver. And I'm pretty sure a semi automatic rifle clip can carry 30 bullets as opposed to 6 in a revolver. So, it's reasonable to say a semi automatic assault style rifle is more dangerous than a revolver (in terms of being able to kill multiple people quickly)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


I know people who can shoot 100 rounds through a revolver within minutes with the use of speed loaders. Your ignorance is rife with obvious blatancy.
 Quoting: Chip


The semi-auto assault rifles are more accurate and generally have more powerful rounds that any revolver. There's probably also a reason no ones pulled off a massacre with a revolver and speed loaders rolleyes ... it's a hell of a lot easier with an AR. So as for ignorance - look in the mirror!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


More idiocy!!! HAH! A revolver has minimal moving parts and is nearly 100% straight every shot. In fact groups shot into a target from a revolver are less than 1/4 of an inch apart and occasionally even hit the same bullet hole twice.

Pwned again. Quit dude...really just stop.
 Quoting: Chip


Great. So obviously revolvers are the superior weapon. You should pass the memo on to the worlds militaries - they better replace their rifles with good old revolvers!

Seriously, stop and think about what your arguing here.

Pwned? ha!
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How the fuck do you commies not understand gun control doesnt stop this kind of shooting? Lets pretend it wasnt a gov psy-op, or a fake drill.

If someone wants to slaughter someone, they will. Gun or no gun, they will get it done.

Focusing on the gun is the work of mentally deranged people that have no sense of Self, because they simply parrot the lies of the propagandists they love.

A very large knife will accomplish the same thing, especially in a room full of kids. They'd be too scared to move.
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You wanna save Children maybe you should outlaw abortion...

Just sayin'...

Because you know the same people that want to take our guns away right now in the name of "saving the children" are the same people that advocate free taxpayer funded unfettered abortion...
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Thank you.

Shouldn't they be calling it "save the choices"? Since children are just "choices" to them?
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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
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To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
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Guns are for pussies. Grown-ups use their fists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Hey everybody a "tough guy" jerkit
 Quoting: Railhead


A "tough guy" with a bullet stopping bat and fists.Maybe he will come visit Chicago sometime. They just eat guys like him up.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Dear God, your country seems more dangerous than Congo or Kosovo. You guys must be so badass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Not so much badass as situationaly aware.You live in a different world.In every world there are certain reality's that one must face.Some being, Bad guys don't follow laws (part of being a bad guy]. Bad guys have guns.(Inasmuch as some don't believe this it's true} and Police are not always close by.You do for your family and I will do for mine.
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All it takes to make a semi automatic assault rifle shoot almost on par with an automatic is a slide stock and knowing how to bump fire.



I'm pretty sure you cant do that with a revolver. And I'm pretty sure a semi automatic rifle clip can carry 30 bullets as opposed to 6 in a revolver. So, it's reasonable to say a semi automatic assault style rifle is more dangerous than a revolver (in terms of being able to kill multiple people quickly)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


I know people who can shoot 100 rounds through a revolver within minutes with the use of speed loaders. Your ignorance is rife with obvious blatancy.
 Quoting: Chip


The semi-auto assault rifles are more accurate and generally have more powerful rounds that any revolver. There's probably also a reason no ones pulled off a massacre with a revolver and speed loaders rolleyes ... it's a hell of a lot easier with an AR. So as for ignorance - look in the mirror!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


U can not ban guns, does not workout, never has. There will b lots after a ban.

In AZ when that whack job shot Giffords in AZ, he used a 9mm glock pistol.

The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle.

Is this stat wrong?

Since the gun ban in Australia, armed robberies are up 69%, assaults with guns up 28%, gun murders increased 19%, and home invasions jumped 21%. More proof that not only does gun control not work, it makes it safer for the criminals at large. In their words

Read more: [link to freedomoutpost.com]
 Quoting: TTX8K82


The 'gun ban' in Australia was a ban primarily on semi-auto weapons. Plenty of people still have bolt action rifles, shotguns, and if you care to join a gun club, semi-automatic pistols and revolvers. If these stats are true, they may be part of a rise in crime in general or perhaps other reasons (gun crime has become quite common in specific areas due to lebanese immigrants). I should also point out there hasn't been a gun massacre in Australia in the 17 years since the assault style rifles were banend.
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Hey everybody a "tough guy" jerkit
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A "tough guy" with a bullet stopping bat and fists.Maybe he will come visit Chicago sometime. They just eat guys like him up.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Dear God, your country seems more dangerous than Congo or Kosovo. You guys must be so badass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Not so much badass as situationaly aware.You live in a different world.In every world there are certain reality's that one must face.Some being, Bad guys don't follow laws (part of being a bad guy]. Bad guys have guns.(Inasmuch as some don't believe this it's true} and Police are not always close by.You do for your family and I will do for mine.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


You guys don't even understand that the more guns you buy, the more armed the criminals will be. You really think criminality can be eradicated, lol (especially in a country without social safety net)? It can only be made less lethal.
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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410224


To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


If you are ever face to face with a man with a gun throw your balls at him.I hope that works out for you.
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A reflection.


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To the families and friends of all of the victims, it is about more than the politics of a historical document; it’s about guaranteeing that this never happens to anyone else’s children.

Barack Obama is in his second and final term. He is not facing re-election. He is not facing the prospect of being voted back in or out. Politically, he has nothing whatsoever to lose by doing what must be done.

 Quoting: The Tauremini


Without a constitution the government in question has no legitimate right to power. They void their contract with the American people. Period THey've already voided their ability to govern. Homeland Security, the TSA, the NSA, all the police in the world, and they did nothing to stop this. They were the most innocent in a gun free zone, where guns were not legally allowed, and still this.

If the government was so anxious for gun control, why did they give thousands and thousands of guns to the drug cartels, and why are they supplying rebels in the middle east with guns by the thousands? Be very careful whose arms you go running to, to save you.


One last thought, you cannot ban crazy. You could be locked in a prison where they control every aspect of your life, your sleep, your eating, the time you get up, and the time you go to bed. Yet everyday in this prison there are killings.

This sick and twisted individual could have used, fire, knives, swords, explosives, toilet bowl cleaning acid, a sharp stick, hell even his bare hands, a bat, a hammer, a axe, a cleaver, power tools, a bow and arrow. The list is endless, you will never stop crazy, especially when someone is willing to die. There is no law you could possible pass that would stop evil. I'm sorry to break it to you.

Maybe if you wanted to protect the innocent, you could put prayer back in school, stop telling everyone there is no God, or the most unthinkable of all, stop the slaughter of the unborn through abortions.

Last Edited by GodFrequency on 12/16/2012 12:33 PM
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A "tough guy" with a bullet stopping bat and fists.Maybe he will come visit Chicago sometime. They just eat guys like him up.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Dear God, your country seems more dangerous than Congo or Kosovo. You guys must be so badass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Not so much badass as situationaly aware.You live in a different world.In every world there are certain reality's that one must face.Some being, Bad guys don't follow laws (part of being a bad guy]. Bad guys have guns.(Inasmuch as some don't believe this it's true} and Police are not always close by.You do for your family and I will do for mine.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


You guys don't even understand that the more guns you buy, the more armed the criminals will be. You really think criminality can be eradicated, lol (especially in a country without social safety net)? It can only be made less lethal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Be real it's to late. It may be a vicious circle but I live in it. I do not wish to be the first to be unarmed.Would you like to be my shield?You can keep your commie safety net.The whole point is that I am responsible for my own is that so hard to grasp?

Last Edited by RomeoKiller on 12/16/2012 12:31 PM
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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410224


To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


If you are ever face to face with a man with a gun throw your balls at him.I hope that works out for you.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Criminals don't feel the need to have guns here. Because citizen aren't armed. So it will be REALLY hard for me to face a man with a gun here, sorry. They are only armed to go against the police.
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Be real it's to late. It may be a vicious circle but I live in it. I do not wish to be the first to be unarmed.Would you like to be my shield?
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It takes balls to do the first step. I'll be your shield if you are a friend.
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Be real it's to late. It may be a vicious circle but I live in it. I do not wish to be the first to be unarmed.Would you like to be my shield?
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


It takes balls to do the first step. I'll be your shield if you are a friend.
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Talk is cheap and has killed many.
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The semi-auto assault rifles are more accurate and generally have more powerful rounds that any revolver. There's probably also a reason no ones pulled off a massacre with a revolver and speed loaders rolleyes ... it's a hell of a lot easier with an AR. So as for ignorance - look in the mirror!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


More idiocy!!! HAH! A revolver has minimal moving parts and is nearly 100% straight every shot. In fact groups shot into a target from a revolver are less than 1/4 of an inch apart and occasionally even hit the same bullet hole twice.

Pwned again. Quit dude...really just stop.
 Quoting: Chip


Great. So obviously revolvers are the superior weapon. You should pass the memo on to the worlds militaries - they better replace their rifles with good old revolvers!

Seriously, stop and think about what your arguing here.

Pwned? ha!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25007705


If they wanted complete accuracy they probably would. Instead they opted to use a 5.56 rounds which can be deadly at great distances. The politically correct asshats (that think like you) thought it more humane to merely maim the enemy...not kill him.
 Quoting: Chip


Ok. So your sticking with your idea that a revolver is a deadlier weapon for mass shootings than a semi AR ?

lalalmao

You're a moron.
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Gun Control is truly for future generations of weasels that will embrace a gunless culture and the balless "men" in the future will worship authority even more than they already do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410224


To be honest, a gun is a great substitute for a lack of balls.
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Still at it eh troll? How many times are you going to say this? It's getting annoying.
 Quoting: Chip


Ignore it then. You call it trolling, but I genuinely believe it. The US have a culture of fear because it's great to manipulate the masses (fear of the commie, fear of the terrorist, fear of the "government", fear of the "ghey", fear of ageing and death, fear pretty much everything -conspiracy theories are an US speciality) , and the most guns per citizen. Coincidence? I think not.

I'm sorry if you don't like my opinion. I don't feel the need to please people here since it's a discussion forum.
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Be real it's to late. It may be a vicious circle but I live in it. I do not wish to be the first to be unarmed.Would you like to be my shield?
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


It takes balls to do the first step. I'll be your shield if you are a friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29904248


Talk is cheap and has killed many.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


I'll be happy to prove my words if the situation arises. I'm not afraid to die. I'm already dead.





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