Why gun control is bigger than the Second Amendment

Op,

A reflection:

Be concerned with the problems in your own country where honest citizens have been neutered of their gun rights yet your criminals and gangs have weapons.

Many links:

Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime Rates Down Under increase despite strict gun-control measures
[link to consumercide.com]

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
[link to www.ncpa.org]

Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban
[link to www.examiner.com]

Violent crime hits Australia's Gold Coast
[link to www.news24.com]

Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime
Rates Down Under increase despite strict gun-control measures
[link to www.wnd.com]

Do Gun Bans Reduce Violent Crime? Ask the Aussies and Brits
[link to www.captainsjournal.com]

Australia`s Gun Ban, Crime & Video Tape
[link to www.nraila.org]

Actually, most every speed shooting record has been won with a revolver, and almost every revolver round is more powerful than an ar-15 round.

you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

and we told u retards not to vote for him but u did anyway....
and we told u retards to move out of cities and suburbs but u didn't.....
and now u think that guns should be confiscated and we're telling u no....

u have no clue what is happening to this country...
u have no clue on the level of violence u will soon see every day....

all I can say is: learn how to fight and learn fast. boxing and judo would be my choices.....

Criminals will then have full autos to fuck you guys with semi-autos.

I don't think you understand where this is going.

Once you are heading for the wall, better speed up so the death is less painful, right?

Then don't read my posts. I don't care what you think.

From America's Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,

and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles
and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely
to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should
not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience
hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable,
than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,

IT IS THEIR RIGHT, IT IS THEIR DUTY, TO THROW OFF SUCH GOVERNMENT,

and to provide new Guards for their future security"



America's founders knew FIRST HAND what it was like to live under tyranny.

George Washington said:

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE.
Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

Our founders DID NOT give us the Second Amendment
to the Constitution so we could hunt deer.

They gave us the Second Amendment, so that we could
OVERTHROW a tyrannical government.

"The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to keep and BEAR ARMS,
shall not be infringed."

They were talking about the MILITARY WEAPONS of the day.
And the MILITIA was then EVERY ABLE BODIED MAN.

The enemies of America want to disarm the people,
so that any resistors to totalitarianism,
where we are headed, can be easily crushed,

AS HAS HAPPENED OVER AND OVER, ALL OVER THE WORLD,
THROUGHOUT ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY.

We will NOT let this happen in America.

thanks for the info.

I don't know about the latest, but every child, who has shot another child @ a public school, has been on some sort of psycho drug. I believe that is were the problem is, and big pharma is going to push more. R they doing that down under?

I do not wish to kill anyone or any thing but I also wish not to die.If I live my whole life without raising my weapon I will be a happy man.But I do not live in a fantasy land and know that where I live it may come to killing another to protect my life (a harsh reality).You know the worst part is that it may come to that because of the color of my hat or skin,my shoes or where Im walking. Walk a mile in my shoe's.19 people where shot in my city last nite one nite!You wish me to be a lamb to the slaughter?

Good program. Anyone who studied history knows very well which empire is going to fall net because of their pride.

Hasten the fall.

Then use good arguments instead of attacking me personally.

Too bad. You will.

Better getting used to it now.

Exactly.

Furthermore, if guns go away guess what you're going to get? BOMBS. That's right - BOMBS will be the new normal. It will be the only way for some wacko to kill en-masse with a guaranteed success rate.

See how slippery this slope is?

Ya because the police did and EXCELLENT job of protecting the 27 dead in CT. When SECONDS count the police are only MINUTES away. IDIOT.

I'm talking about guns. You call me a fag. You are the one derailing.

It's true. Every country with gun control is facing rampant bombing, even more than in the US (not).

I hate your country so much that I'm coming 2 weeks in March.

I love America and Americans. I'm just sharing my opinion with gun freaks (which are a minority in the US) but they are too proud to accept that maybe they are wrong.

I don't care because when I come to America I know that I won't cross a redneck with a gun at every corner because that's not what America is about.

You guys are a dying breed and this is you swan song.

We

shall

see.



Don't get mad, man.

The world's a changing so you better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone ;)

Oh and this is not true. You aren't even enough to win the elections.

...and in a nutshell we see why your arguments make no logical, practical sense. You lack foresight, completely and absolutely; something our Forefathers thankfully had.


RE: "our dying gun culture"

I just went to a gun show yesterday. Jam packed. People from ALL walks of life - wealthy doctors, young women, older people. No "bumpkins" or the "snaggle-tooth weirdos" ignorant people try to portray us as. These are people who understand the fundamental, inalienable God-given RIGHT to defend their life, liberty, and property. They understand that (as my CCW instructor, a former Sheriff, told us) Police are AT BEST 5 minutes away, with the average being 15 mins.

YOU are the minority. YOU won't know who is carrying a weapon around you when you visit the USA. Want to know why? Because it's probably that cute girl sitting across the aisle at the restaurant, or the nice old lady in the bookstore. Normal people who would most likely put THEIR life on the line to defend YOUR defenseless ass.



Last Edited by Project_Deimos on 12/16/2012 01:24 PM

What do you want me to do about your paranoia? I can't help you there.

"Sob. If I can't buy a semi-auto because the shrink said I was crazy I'll loose all my freedom. I need my big phallic semi-auto to feel free because I have insecurities about my sexual orientation".

Gee.

Americans are armed and yet they did nothing to prevent all the laws reducing their freedoms. You have less freedom than me. I can still own a gun if I want, I just need a permit and papers. Guns won't change a fucking thing about your epidermic insecurity.

2000 jerks discussing guns totally proves you guys are a majority that can't even get a pro-gun president elected.

Your*

And it's a very valid point. Gun freaks are a minority otherwise Obama wouldn't be elected twice.

POLITICIANS DON'T LIKE AN ARMED POPULACE



George Bush said he would have signed a new AWB in 2004 but he knew it would be political suicide. Regan was the sitting President when the 1986 Gun Control Act was passed. Doesn't matter who is elected, our Rights are always up for sale in DC.

Wrong.

Gun freaks crazies always all go to vote while moderate usually don't really care about voicing their opinion at all.

That means that less than 20% Americans are pro-gun.

Like I said, attack me all you want, you show how weak are your arguments.

It must suck to see the world evolving faster than you do.

Finally :)

Not even logical. Who in their right mind would want to destroy our Nations capital over a political issue? Oh that's right - firearms enthusiasts AREN'T crazy and that's why it won't happen. We just want a fighting chance when some POS breaks in and attacks our family. I am NOT yielding to your Utopian ideals, subjugating my loved-ones to the unavoidable alternative of begging on our knees for our lives.

What the fuck dude- are you REALLY that naive? You do realize this world isn't fair, is cruel, and brutal don't you? Wake up.

Last Edited by Project_Deimos on 12/16/2012 01:47 PM

bsflag? I'm not talking about bill dicksuckingClinton, or any SHIT-FUCK third world country. I'm talking LOGIC.

Since you obviously have any, go fucking move to your 3rd world douchebaggery fuck hole.

Liberal piece of shit...burn in hell

bsflag? I'm not talking about bill dicksuckingClinton, or any SHIT-FUCK third world country. I'm talking LOGIC.

Since you obviously have any, go fucking move to your 3rd world douchebaggery fuck hole.

Liberal piece of shit...burn in hell

But his Democrat allies in Congress (who are up for reelection) do. Conservative Democrats notoriously shy away from gun control, because of their (mostly southern, conservative) constituents.