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why dont the Rich ever help the poor

 
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why dont the Rich ever help the poor
We've all seen it trailer trash becoming Rich either through talent, lies, illusion or what ever the people want and they never do great admirable things with their money. They just buy huge houses, here .and there , act fake, try to get more money, and spend on crumby things. I mean how is it as soon as people get Rich they become kinda pathetic and thick.
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12/16/2012 07:55 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
They do...they keep you out of their neighborhood...


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12/16/2012 07:58 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Because they snub their past. They didn't work hard for it. Real rich people do. They donate all the time.
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12/16/2012 08:10 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Many Hollywood stars admit to being massively over paid , meaning their talent does not match their worth. So why don't they just help the nerdy with 50 million. Which many can spare and probably not even notice. Instead they complain at tax and any expense.
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12/16/2012 08:11 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
That's how they got rich.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
lol meant needy big the nerdy
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12/16/2012 08:12 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
lol meant needy not the nerdy
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
We've all seen it trailer trash becoming Rich either through talent, lies, illusion or what ever the people want and they never do great admirable things with their money. They just buy huge houses, here .and there , act fake, try to get more money, and spend on crumby things. I mean how is it as soon as people get Rich they become kinda pathetic and thick.
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Many people are poor because they continue to make poor choices in their lives. No amount of "help" can trump honest individual effort to succeed. If the effort is not there, that person is doomed to failure regardless.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
I'm not asking why people are poor. I'm saying why don't they help others with their spare millions. simply.
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12/16/2012 08:22 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Rather than buy a 22 bedroomed mansion that they never or,rarely use.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
We've all seen it trailer trash becoming Rich either through talent, lies, illusion or what ever the people want and they never do great admirable things with their money. They just buy huge houses, here .and there , act fake, try to get more money, and spend on crumby things. I mean how is it as soon as people get Rich they become kinda pathetic and thick.
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Many people are poor because they continue to make poor choices in their lives. No amount of "help" can trump honest individual effort to succeed. If the effort is not there, that person is doomed to failure regardless.
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Seems these days every choice is the wrong one. If your not walking a straight and narrow path then your making the wrong choice
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12/16/2012 08:23 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
I'm not asking why people are poor. I'm saying why don't they help others with their spare millions. simply.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
We've all seen it trailer trash becoming Rich either through talent, lies, illusion or what ever the people want and they never do great admirable things with their money. They just buy huge houses, here .and there , act fake, try to get more money, and spend on crumby things. I mean how is it as soon as people get Rich they become kinda pathetic and thick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1878295


Many people are poor because they continue to make poor choices in their lives. No amount of "help" can trump honest individual effort to succeed. If the effort is not there, that person is doomed to failure regardless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6408016


Seems these days every choice is the wrong one. If your not walking a straight and narrow path then your making the wrong choice
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It's near impossible to become rich, the rich made sure of it.

With all the tax's, law's and other loop holes you have too cross too even get started.

Then you will reach a point where you need to sell out.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
You should define which "rich" you're talking about.

Over the years I've seen obituaries/stories in the newspapers about rich people you've never heard of.

Inevitably, the article will mention that this person gave millions to charities ANONYMOUSLY

there was one guy who would walk the streets on Christmas Day, handing out $100 bills to homeless people. You never heard about this when he was alive, because he didn't do it for publicity or aggrandizement.

UNLIKE THE RICH MOVIE STARS, ROCK STARS AND POLITICIANS, WHO ALWAYS WANT TO HELP THE POOR WITH YOUR MONEY, NEVER THEIR OWN!!
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12/16/2012 08:30 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Why should they help us? A lot of us are too lazy to get out of our own way.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
You should define which "rich" you're talking about.

Over the years I've seen obituaries/stories in the newspapers about rich people you've never heard of.

Inevitably, the article will mention that this person gave millions to charities ANONYMOUSLY

there was one guy who would walk the streets on Christmas Day, handing out $100 bills to homeless people. You never heard about this when he was alive, because he didn't do it for publicity or aggrandizement.

UNLIKE THE RICH MOVIE STARS, ROCK STARS AND POLITICIANS, WHO ALWAYS WANT TO HELP THE POOR WITH YOUR MONEY, NEVER THEIR OWN!!
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Were not talking about millionaires. Were talking about billionaires.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Because they snub their past. They didn't work hard for it. Real rich people do. They donate all the time.
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Define "real rich"...


Is this some kind of accumulated wealth which never needed stolen oil through wars, didn't need some kind of banking loan with monopoly money, wasn't propped up by an underground financier using drug trade cash, doesn't monopolize a market sector, doesn't prey on necessity, doesn't entrap the consumer with cheap Made In China products rebranded and sold at %5000 above manufacturing costs...


Quite confused as to how you differentiate 2 classes of Rich.

There's only 1 type of rich, the GREEDY, CORRUPT, PREMEDITATING, DECEITFUL, MONOPOLIZING type.

Donation by this "real rich" is a pitiful way of supposedly erasing the guilt. And as for those BIG charity events, they aren't what you think they are, it's mostly a promotion of something underlying with a Public Relations Banner which distracts.
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12/16/2012 08:31 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Why should they help us? A lot of us are too lazy to get out of our own way.
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It's not a question about helping us, the real question is why are they suppressing us? its power. money is power.
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12/16/2012 08:32 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Because they snub their past. They didn't work hard for it. Real rich people do. They donate all the time.
 Quoting: Munsoned


Define "real rich"...


Is this some kind of accumulated wealth which never needed stolen oil through wars, didn't need some kind of banking loan with monopoly money, wasn't propped up by an underground financier using drug trade cash, doesn't monopolize a market sector, doesn't prey on necessity, doesn't entrap the consumer with cheap Made In China products rebranded and sold at %5000 above manufacturing costs...


Quite confused as to how you differentiate 2 classes of Rich.

There's only 1 type of rich, the GREEDY, CORRUPT, PREMEDITATING, DECEITFUL, MONOPOLIZING type.

Donation by this "real rich" is a pitiful way of supposedly erasing the guilt. And as for those BIG charity events, they aren't what you think they are, it's mostly a promotion of something underlying with a Public Relations Banner which distracts.
 Quoting: Gunnz, lots of Gunnz


no kidding, the elite see the world as their playground and everyone else is just renting time.
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12/16/2012 08:33 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
I just calculated 10 100 thousands make a million. Down the rabbit hole. I think. Rich people are too thick . This is the prob. Like they make money for ego then hit a brick wall.
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12/16/2012 08:34 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
The only thing that you could give the poor that actually helps, is education that leads to practical skills.

All other options are pretty useless, as they seed dependency and lack of purpose.
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12/16/2012 08:36 AM
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
lets be fair, the elite have mental illness, disease,hearbreak,insecurity extra like every one else.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
We've all seen it trailer trash becoming Rich either through talent, lies, illusion or what ever the people want and they never do great admirable things with their money. They just buy huge houses, here .and there , act fake, try to get more money, and spend on crumby things. I mean how is it as soon as people get Rich they become kinda pathetic and thick.
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It is a reflection of their culture and values. People who have been monied for a long time set up foundations and sponsor things. They help people quietly and without demands for publicity.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
The only thing that you could give the poor that actually helps, is education that leads to practical skills.

All other options are pretty useless, as they seed dependency and lack of purpose.
 Quoting: Resonant Citizen 913721


True. But you can stabilize the poor.

Building wells in Africa, sending farming supply's. Opening rehab clinics.

Paying off debts. Like the people who are burdened by a family members death.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Wealthy people often give to the poor - but there is a difference between people who have made their wealth and know how to handle it and those who are suddenly rich and clueless.

However, it does seem to be the human condition that when you reach a certain level of income, you move out of the ghetto or trailer park and never look back, thinking it's not your place to bring up every scumbag who lives there. I understand that.

It's similar to when a black family makes it to middle or upper-middle class - they always move to lilly-white neighborhoods to live so that they can send their kids to good schools and raise them where there is less crime. However, when enough of them move into the neighborhood it again turns bad and infested with drugs and crime and the schools go to shit. Go figure. I guess there's a threshold on the percentage of trashy people (of any color) who can move into a neighborhood before it hits the tipping point.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Rich as in multi millionaires.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Rich as in multi millionaires plus
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Don't give me that supply and demand bs.

There is enough resources on this planet to build everyone a fairly big house and to feed everyone.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
I'm not asking why people are poor. I'm saying why don't they help others with their spare millions. simply.
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And that depends on what your idea of "help" is. Just forking over cash to magnify someone's poor life choices is not "help", its a recipe for disaster. True "help" is assisting that person in creating the circumstances within their lives that will allow them to succeed.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
Rich people have highly distorted views on the world and money.

They honestly believe in survival of the fittest, to them getting fat off their ass while people are dieing in the street is evolution.
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Re: why dont the Rich ever help the poor
I'm not asking why people are poor. I'm saying why don't they help others with their spare millions. simply.
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And that depends on what your idea of "help" is. Just forking over cash to magnify someone's poor life choices is not "help", its a recipe for disaster. True "help" is assisting that person in creating the circumstances within their lives that will allow them to succeed.
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but they don't and if they are their clearly not doing a good enough job of it.

stick to the thread topic. sorry if i sound like a dick.





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