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Greece Is On The Brink Of Civil War

 
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Greece Is On The Brink Of Civil War
Coming soon to America I am afraid.


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"Collective trauma” is how Pieper described the society whose bottom had been pulled out from under it. “Men are particularly hard hit by the crisis,” Pieper said, as their pay had been decimated, or their jobs eliminated. They’re seething with anger at the utterly corrupt system and a kleptocratic government that have done so much damage to the country; and they’re furious at the international bailout politics whose money only benefits big banks, not the people.



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The only war that maby is worth of is the war to this corrupt politics
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resist

Stay strong my friend !
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Stay strong my friend !
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Always strong man! Thnx for pm. hf
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Always strong man! Thnx for pm.
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Np man ! Did you like the pic ? :)
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Np man ! Did you like the pic ? :)
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Yaeh, twas great, thnx for the nice gesture! All the best and happy wishes to you too. cheers
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The corrupt government is trying to sell the water and electricity companies for a few hundred millions, when each one of them has a net worth of many tens of billions. The electric company for example, owns a private coal mine that alone worths billions. And these companies have constant gains and they provide the government a very high income. Even Hollywood, in the movie "A Dark Truth" is communicating that the companies want to control the water all over the world and they refer to Greece as the next country to sell the water to private companies. Coincidence? I don't think so...
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The corrupt government is trying to sell the water and electricity companies for a few hundred millions, when each one of them has a net worth of many tens of billions. The electric company for example, owns a private coal mine that alone worths billions. And these companies have constant gains and they provide the government a very high income. Even Hollywood, in the movie "A Dark Truth" is communicating that the companies want to control the water all over the world and they refer to Greece as the next country to sell the water to private companies. Coincidence? I don't think so...
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In Portugal too, Gov sell to China half of the ex state energy company and now chinese tell that they want 100% of it. But they want to sell everything, state bank, airplane company, posts, whater, etc
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In Portugal too, Gov sell to China half of the ex state energy company and now chinese tell that they want 100% of it. But they want to sell everything, state bank, airplane company, posts, whater, etc
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Luis, in Romania we have the exact same problem !

Our government sold everything to foreign companies for hilarious prices in exchange for hefty bribes to politicians !

We have no more industrial complexes, no more factories, no more agriculture ! Everything has been basically given away, we've robbed blind by our scumbag politicians !
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The corrupt government is trying to sell the water and electricity companies for a few hundred millions, when each one of them has a net worth of many tens of billions. The electric company for example, owns a private coal mine that alone worths billions. And these companies have constant gains and they provide the government a very high income. Even Hollywood, in the movie "A Dark Truth" is communicating that the companies want to control the water all over the world and they refer to Greece as the next country to sell the water to private companies. Coincidence? I don't think so...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29888978


Didn't know that about the movie, interesting.
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thanks for picking up link I screwed up.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson
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In Portugal too, Gov sell to China half of the ex state energy company and now chinese tell that they want 100% of it. But they want to sell everything, state bank, airplane company, posts, whater, etc
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Hey Luis. hf Here too, they want to sell everything even profitable companies at a fraction of their value. Let's face it, corporations are winning this race. :(
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thanks for picking up link I screwed up.
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cheers
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In Portugal too, Gov sell to China half of the ex state energy company and now chinese tell that they want 100% of it. But they want to sell everything, state bank, airplane company, posts, whater, etc
 Quoting: Luisport


Luis, in Romania we have the exact same problem !

Our government sold everything to foreign companies for hilarious prices in exchange for hefty bribes to politicians !

We have no more industrial complexes, no more factories, no more agriculture ! Everything has been basically given away, we've robbed blind by our scumbag politicians !
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alone
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In Portugal too, Gov sell to China half of the ex state energy company and now chinese tell that they want 100% of it. But they want to sell everything, state bank, airplane company, posts, whater, etc
 Quoting: Luisport


Hey Luis. hf Here too, they want to sell everything even profitable companies at a fraction of their value. Let's face it, corporations are winning this race. :(
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My God when this will stop!!!gaah
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The corrupt government is trying to sell the water and electricity companies for a few hundred millions, when each one of them has a net worth of many tens of billions. The electric company for example, owns a private coal mine that alone worths billions. And these companies have constant gains and they provide the government a very high income. Even Hollywood, in the movie "A Dark Truth" is communicating that the companies want to control the water all over the world and they refer to Greece as the next country to sell the water to private companies. Coincidence? I don't think so...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29888978


In Portugal too, Gov sell to China half of the ex state energy company and now chinese tell that they want 100% of it. But they want to sell everything, state bank, airplane company, posts, whater, etc
 Quoting: Luisport


And they always sell the best companies and the MOST important. Letting some foreign country or a private corporation controlling electricity and/or water is like letting someone point a gun to your head. They are also trying to sell the Agricultural Bank that owns most of the loans of the farmers. In case there is a hard default they would confiscate all the agricultural lands of Greece with a non-calculable net worth.
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In Portugal too, Gov sell to China half of the ex state energy company and now chinese tell that they want 100% of it. But they want to sell everything, state bank, airplane company, posts, whater, etc
 Quoting: Luisport


Hey Luis. hf Here too, they want to sell everything even profitable companies at a fraction of their value. Let's face it, corporations are winning this race. :(
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


My God when this will stop!!!gaah
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I honestly dunno. If they were just taking the companies (which are paid by our tax money all these years btw) and left the people live in peace and in some kind of prosperity i would certainly think about it, but what they truly want is to take all the assets for free and then the people to starve, it's just doesn't sound like a fair deal to me tbh.
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The corrupt government is trying to sell the water and electricity companies for a few hundred millions, when each one of them has a net worth of many tens of billions. The electric company for example, owns a private coal mine that alone worths billions. And these companies have constant gains and they provide the government a very high income. Even Hollywood, in the movie "A Dark Truth" is communicating that the companies want to control the water all over the world and they refer to Greece as the next country to sell the water to private companies. Coincidence? I don't think so...
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Didn't know that about the movie, interesting.
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Haven't seen the movie yet, but they it here
[link to olympia.gr]
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The corrupt government is trying to sell the water and electricity companies for a few hundred millions, when each one of them has a net worth of many tens of billions. The electric company for example, owns a private coal mine that alone worths billions. And these companies have constant gains and they provide the government a very high income. Even Hollywood, in the movie "A Dark Truth" is communicating that the companies want to control the water all over the world and they refer to Greece as the next country to sell the water to private companies. Coincidence? I don't think so...
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Didn't know that about the movie, interesting.
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Haven't seen the movie yet, but they it here
[link to olympia.gr]
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Thnx for link and info. cheers
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In Portugal too, Gov sell to China half of the ex state energy company and now chinese tell that they want 100% of it. But they want to sell everything, state bank, airplane company, posts, whater, etc
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Hey Luis. hf Here too, they want to sell everything even profitable companies at a fraction of their value. Let's face it, corporations are winning this race. :(
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


My God when this will stop!!!gaah
 Quoting: Luisport


I honestly dunno. If they were just taking the companies (which are paid by our tax money all these years btw) and left the people live in peace and in some kind of prosperity i would certainly think about it, but what they truly want is to take all the assets for free and then the people to starve, it's just doesn't sound like a fair deal to me tbh.
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Yes that's it my friend... i'm starting to become desperate!
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Here all this is toika demand!
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Yes that's it my friend... i'm starting to become desperate!
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No desperation needed Luis, bottom line not much that you and i can truly do tbh, i know it doesn't sound rebellious or hopeful but it is what it is, unfortunately they have too much power and leverage on the average peoples. Can't see the awakening of the masses coming before it's too late.
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Oh shit, iFun! Do you want to come visit America for a while? Seriously?
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Yes that's it my friend... i'm starting to become desperate!
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No desperation needed Luis, bottom line not much that you and i can truly do tbh, i know it doesn't sound rebellious or hopeful but it is what it is, unfortunately they have too much power and leverage on the average peoples. Can't see the awakening of the masses coming before it's too late.
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Today i'm deeply depressed... i really can't see a light in the end of tunnel.
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Oh shit, iFun! Do you want to come visit America for a while? Seriously?
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Hehe, so sweet of you Eireann. hf
I'm in the countryside for some months now, i think i will be safe, problems and social pressure exists only in the 2 big cities for now, life in the countryside continues as normal fortunately.

I've stated again that the civil war term is a bit heavy and an overstatement as a word for the current situation here, i'm no oracle to know whats coming though, but civil unrest would be the correct term to describe the future events, i still haven't seen the civil war coming that the MSM are talking about but i'm sure that this is where they are targeting, TPTB would happily push us there, thats their goal, thank god people are calm for now and haven't seen something pointing out to an armed struggle yet.
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Great but sad article. This is what happens when you allow private bankers to control the money supply and use interest as slavery.
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kids the economy will tank very bad in april/may 2013 as programmed in the PIIGS countries

all utilities prices will increase drastically

be prepared, access to free water, self electricity production, some fuel stock and if possible get an old diesel car so you can fill with dirty fuels.

Believe or not this is the reason Berlusconi has been removed from Italian governance. He failed to sell for a dime water to France / also failed to set a nuclear energy plan to give back France billions of euros invested in italians bonds.

They are just trying to extract the money from people pockets since they cannot do it from governments


P.s Geia IFUN..ti kanis? Eisai ethimo gia katafigio:
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Yes that's it my friend... i'm starting to become desperate!
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No desperation needed Luis, bottom line not much that you and i can truly do tbh, i know it doesn't sound rebellious or hopeful but it is what it is, unfortunately they have too much power and leverage on the average peoples. Can't see the awakening of the masses coming before it's too late.
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Today i'm deeply depressed... i really can't see a light in the end of tunnel.
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I know it looks very gloomy my friend, try to focus on things that you really have influence on and better your life in these new hard terms, i totally feel for you, some days i feel extremely sad with the direction things are taking, but as i said before, not much that you and i can do beyond raising awareness and trying to inform people for the real hidden agenda. You'd be surprised of how many people here still enjoying a good life and want nothing to change for the bettering of this society or for their fellow compatriots suffering. Dunno if i'm a pessimist but i can't see what more can the average Joe do here. It's not like we haven't taken this to the streets.
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kids the economy will tank very bad in april/may 2013 as programmed in the PIIGS countries

all utilities prices will increase drastically

be prepared, access to free water, self electricity production, some fuel stock and if possible get an old diesel car so you can fill with dirty fuels.

Believe or not this is the reason Berlusconi has been removed from Italian governance. He failed to sell for a dime water to France / also failed to set a nuclear energy plan to give back France billions of euros invested in italians bonds.

They are just trying to extract the money from people pockets since they cannot do it from governments


P.s Geia IFUN..ti kanis? Eisai ethimo gia katafigio:
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Yep, if January-March passes without much turbulence i think it won't be that hard with summer coming, but prices are already rising daily and i don't see a single concrete plan or strategy for the real problem of this country which is unemployment. Lots of election rumors for March. Heard this too about Berlusconi and the water btw, interesting to say the least.

P.S. hf Etoimos eimai. Pano eisai?

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