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So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?

 
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Re: So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?
He used his brothers ID.
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I thought I heard that he and his brother hadn't seen each other in three years.
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I heard that too and I heard he used his brothers ID.
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I have a cpl questions. There are so many threads about this and they may have all ready been answered. If so, sorry..

First, why so much protection for the families? The shooter is dead. Why protect the families from media unless they don't want them saying something?

Second, apparently there was a dispute of some sort the day before at the school. Do we know what that was yet?

Third, I heard this am on the news 4 hand guns were found in the school. Could he really have done so much damage with 4 hand guns in so little time? Coroner says all victims shot multiple times.

I'm getting confused here. Can someone help?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29296407

I'll try to weigh in on this one.

anyone whose personally experienced grief and loss knows that it can be painfully dificult or near impossibe to speak about it at first. be observant and suspect of those that do, which is beginning. some may be real and some may be plants.

some here have said there are none or fewer victims. in two closed classrooms, this is certainly possible. yesterday, we saw the father of Emilie Parker speak. I have been trying to judge him. pictures showed what appears to be a legitimate family, though recently moved to the area. was he sincere? is his daughter safe somewhere?

that is the first family memeber I think I have seen. I have seen other interviews where some seem legitimately broken-up. I have seen some who may be actors (not as family members, but community or as parents of children in other rooms who got out). there certainly were actor witnesses to the Batman shooting. Harley Girl and Chris Ramos.

among others, I have seen a seemingly russian guy I did not believe. and pay attention to this. there is one child who survived. I saw a seemingly jewish speaking about her in a church this morning on the news, and I did not believe him.
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I have a cpl questions. There are so many threads about this and they may have all ready been answered. If so, sorry..

First, why so much protection for the families? The shooter is dead. Why protect the families from media unless they don't want them saying something?

Second, apparently there was a dispute of some sort the day before at the school. Do we know what that was yet?

Third, I heard this am on the news 4 hand guns were found in the school. Could he really have done so much damage with 4 hand guns in so little time? Coroner says all victims shot multiple times.

I'm getting confused here. Can someone help?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29296407

I'll try to weigh in on this one.

anyone whose personally experienced grief and loss knows that it can be painfully dificult or near impossibe to speak about it at first. be observant and suspect of those that do, which is beginning. some may be real and some may be plants.

some here have said there are none or fewer victims. in two closed classrooms, this is certainly possible. yesterday, we saw the father of Emilie Parker speak. I have been trying to judge him. pictures showed what appears to be a legitimate family, though recently moved to the area. was he sincere? is his daughter safe somewhere?

that is the first family memeber I think I have seen. I have seen other interviews where some seem legitimately broken-up. I have seen some who may be actors (not as family members, but community or as parents of children in other rooms who got out). there certainly were actor witnesses to the Batman shooting. Harley Girl and Chris Ramos.

among others, I have seen a seemingly russian guy I did not believe. and pay attention to this. there is one child who survived. I saw a seemingly jewish speaking about her in a church this morning on the news, and I did not believe him.
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Thank you.
This thing to be playing out very strangely to me also.
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Re: So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?
BTW the security needs to be updated so that when a glass door breaks perhaps teh fire alarm or something goes off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


The right way to update the security in every school is giving the principal or another designated employee a gun and gun training.

Had there been ONE person in the school who had a gun beside the rampaging psychopath this could have been stopped much earlier.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


1 children can break into gun case, maybe not elementary kids but middle schoolers will take it as a challenge

2 adrenaline

3 accidentally shoot those responding and/or other victims

4 teachers are not the police and/or swat


if we need guns in schools we need to take a look at why and address THAT
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The right way to update the security in every school is giving the principal or another designated employee a gun and gun training.

Had there been ONE person in the school who had a gun beside the rampaging psychopath this could have been stopped much earlier.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


that's what i said too... a school marshal much like the air marshals we have post 911.
 Quoting: woowoochic


But there were THREE psychopaths immediately involved in this attack, plus an army of black ops behind them-- which the media is covering up-- big time.

The solution is not to arm school principals-- it is to EXPOSE the lying mainstream media and the psychopaths behind these psychological operations for who they are..elites who desire a one world fascism with a disarmed population.

The truth is that any vulnerable young person can be mind controlled through microwave technology today. They have been working on this for a very long time, and it is quite perfected, I can assure you.

The news media stopped reporting on this insidious technology back in the 1970s when it became a state secret, and is now being used against the very taxpayers' children who paid for it!!

This is the irony of this CON job.

And if the public does not wake up to this CON job, they deserve to be conned.
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norespect :pipe:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater

YAWN--- ... ad hominem... Isn't this technique getting old?
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Re: So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?
possibilities (thinking out loud here):

the principal was not killed in the classroom

she called 911 and then the local paper

she was killed later, because she saw too much and/or because she oversaw the installation of the security system and she could testify as to what went wrong
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Okay, this is a reasonably plausible explanation for a thread I and another GLPer posted about the dead principal being able to give a quote to the local newspaper about what happened...
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So did the "Dead principal buzz him in after she recognized him as a teachers son".. which I read yesterday..

Or did he enter by "breaking the glass on the door".. which I read today??

wtf
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Homeschooling FTW!

Plus you will be the one protecting your child, not some stranger that usually is a communist that wants to make your child into a commie idiot too.
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NPR tweets about interview with principle 'before she died'.

[link to muckrack.com]

[link to muckrack.com]


From above:

"The first blurb from Newtown's home newspaper. They talked to the principal just before she died. [link to t.co]




[link to newtownbee.com]

"Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on.""

How does a reporter get to an apparently dying principle and get a statement like that?



No mention of her injuries in this report?!? Though she later died?
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Re: So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?
how did the principal know the guy was in the school if we went in the side door?

the articles I've seen said he got through the security system
The storm is closing in to begin again from the beginning. Never sitting through my waking life oblivious. The ignorance running rampant through the city is indicative of something worse; this picture isn't pretty.
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Re: So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?
how did the principal know the guy was in the school if we went in the side door?

the articles I've seen said he got through the security system
 Quoting: C74R1TY-44


'...forced his way into...'


[link to www.usatoday.com]


USA Today:

"Debbie Liedlien says administrators were coming out of a meeting when the gunman forced his way into the school and ran toward them."

Clear as mud....
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12/16/2012 03:33 PM
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Re: So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?
Would I be correct in assuming that the doors automatically unlock if, say, the fire alarms go off?
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(CNN) -- Principal Dawn Hochsprung, killed in Friday's shooting at her Connecticut elementary school, recently installed a new security system to ensure student safety.

In a letter this fall to parents at Sandy Hook Elementary School, Hochsprung said that every visitor would be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance after the doors locked at 9:30 a.m.

[link to www.wtsp.com]
 Quoting: stinks like a fish 27531391


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He pulled an old Jack Ruby trick, get friendly with the security (Police) and they'll let you in...(as what Jack Ruby did to Lee Harvey Oswald..

hiding
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Re: So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?
he rang the bell
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Re: So how did the Newtown shooter get past the NEW SECURITY SYSTEM?
news article, he broke a window and shot his way in
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